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Re: Frank Guarente's World Known Georgians with Ted Noyes and Ben Pickering

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  • Jack
    Correction: I believe Specht s first name was Paul, not Phil, even though Scott Alexander s site has him listed as being Phil. Jack
    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 18, 2010
      Correction:

      I believe Specht's first name was Paul, not Phil, even though Scott Alexander's site has him listed as being Phil.

      Jack

      --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Jack" <scara9mouche@...> wrote:
      >
      > Rob,
      >
      > I posted a reply to your last message, but it seemed to come through on the site as my orginal Die Weintraubs message. Anyway, here's what I wanted to say regarding our great-uncles Ted Noyes and Ben Pickering and Frank Guarente's groups.
      >
      > The Georgians were a subgroup of the the Phil Specht Orchestra. The Phil Specht Orchestra was basically for dancing, whereas the Georgians were jazz. As I mentioned, Ted Noyes spent a lot of time in Europe (more in Europe than stateside). In Europe, the Georgians were called the World Known Georgians, and their drummer was Ted Noyes. Ben Pickering was on trombone. Stateside, though, Ted wasn't always the Georgians' drummer, for two, possibly three reasons. One was that he frequently stayed behind in Europe, and the second was that, when he was stateside, he was the regular drummer for Billy Lustig's Scranton Sirens. The third possible reason is that, athough Ted did play with the stateside version of the Georgians too, Chauncey Morehouse was often with the group, and Chauncey ended up being one of the biggest names in jazz drumming, for good reason. I can't say whether Ted was as good as Chauncey or not, but he certainly wasn't as well known; and part of the reason for that was his preference for Europe.
      >
      > I have a photo of Ted in uniform in my central hallway, and I remember seeing photos of him at my parents' wedding and and at my baptism. I'll have to see which of my relatives stateside (I live in Ireland now) might have ended up with those photos. In those photos, he was also in uniform. He retired as a colonel from the U.S. Army. He was in the military in both World Wars.
      >
      > I believe that the photo of the drummer on a picture of the Scranton Sirens on the net is him. I think that the photo of the drummer on the most famous photo of the Georgians is Chauncey Morehouse, though there might be photos of Ted with that group. If we had photos of the Georgians on European tour under the name of the World Known Georgians, we'd definitely have more photos of Ted. But good hunting on trying to dig up photos, and I'll keep my fingers crossed as well as continuing to trawl the net.
      >
      > Jack
      >
    • Patrice Champarou
      ... From: Jack Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:30 AM To: Subject: [RedHotJazz] Frank Guarente s World
      Message 2 of 3 , Jun 18, 2010
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        From: "Jack" <scara9mouche@...>
        Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:30 AM
        To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [RedHotJazz] Frank Guarente's World Known Georgians with Ted Noyes
        and Ben Pickering

        > Rob,
        >
        > I posted a reply to your last message, but it seemed to come through on
        > the site as my orginal Die Weintraubs message.

        This is my fault, and partly Yahoo's. Since I haven't taken time to remove
        the moderation feature from you both, I still have to unlock each of your
        messages by hand - and there were older, pending ones they failed to notify
        me about, maybe even some you fancied posting twice, not sure.
        I hope everyone still receives the complete description of this group's
        feature after joining, anyway it is true that attachments are automatically
        removed for security reasons (they could be allowed if we were not over 700,
        including a number of subscribers who enjoy receiving mail from the group
        and might not all be protected by some kind of updated antivirus software).
        Please feel free to tell the group about newly uploaded material, I've just
        discovered more folders in the photo section I had never heard about ;-)

        Patrice
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