Re: [RedHotJazz] Re: JacksonŽs Southern Stompers
You're definitely right about the Williams reed players (see our never-ending thread about the clarinet on "Red Hot Flo"). There are many sessions around that time where the identity of the reed players hasn't been resolved satisfactorily.
As a caveat we should remember that Lord's publication was prepared by a serialised discography by the Storyville team, who presumably had long and controversial listening sessions. Of course, we have wonderful transfers at our disposal (and hopefully good ears;-).
All the best,
> Michael, sorry, yes, I forgot to name St. Clair. It certainly is him!______________________________________________________
> The Ristic personnel listed Buster Bailey as clarinetist, but I think
> it is just Ben Whitted on clt, with his simple and functional down-to-
> earth and no-nonsense clt-style. He is a much better man than
> hitherto regarded!! (I think, Harry DialŽs claim that Whitted was
> thrown out of WallerŽs Rhythm because of being unable to improvise is
> simple nonsense. He was not a spectacular musician as others were,
> rather modest and unassuming.) Also, the Ristic sleeve said, that
> there is no piano. Charlie Johnson himself was a very unassuming man (
> just think of his recorded output) and not a great piano player, but
> a great leader to his band, so it would be obvious for him to stay in
> the background, especially, as these were stock arrangements.
> Re Ben Whitted: It would be most rewarding to check all through the
> reedmen in the Clarence Williams bands, as listed in Tom Lord. I
> myself have found a lot of better "guesses"! But about that in a
> later Yahoo item!
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <Rader.Michael@...>
> > Listening ten or so times for the trumpet really is dedication ;-)
> and if the Hot'n'Sweet uses the Davies transfer, it can't entirely be
> torture. After what KB said, I listened particularly for the drums
> and the rhythm section and while I think I hear drums similar to
> those on the Charlie Johnson Victors, especially in one passage
> towards the end of "Dusky Stevedore", I'm also fairly sure that it is
> Cyrus St. Clair on the brass bass instrument - when he come to the
> foreground, he sounds like the St. Clair we all know from Clarence
> Williams recordings (e.g. the QRS "Midnight Stomp"). Now I'll try to
> find up-tempo Leonard Davis.
> > The notes to the Frogspawn still give the Johnson band as probably
> personnel, but superficially it does sound quite like the Krazy Kats (
> better name than Marvin Smolev) on their faster numbers (Horse
> Feathers, The Terror).
> > Michael Rader
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