Re: Jelly Roll Morton lecture
- --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Standish" <mojohand@...> wrote:
> Robert - I hope the seats were comfortable, and was there sherry?Hahaha. No, Tony, the seats were quite uncomfortable and there was no
> Sometimes our burden is so hard to bear....
> Tony Standish
sherry and no canapés. She did say that many of the LoC recordings were
unplayable on the BBC but we were not treated to any of the unplayables
last night, either. I look forward to her lecture on Speckled Red's The
Dirtier Dozens and The Dirtiest Dozens
- Hello Mr. Greenwood.
Thank you very much for taking time out to give all of us on this
group your erudite version of the lecture.
In my opinion Marybeth Hamilton could not be a very good historian if
she discounts Mamie Desdunes as being a real person. There is a whole
lot of information by Mr. Peter Hanley about her and her family at,
I am going to make an attempt to listen to the BBC radio program on
Sunday. Thank you.
--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Greenwood"
> There's not a lot to report, Marco. I suspect that what I heard
> night was a preview of what we will hear tomorrow evening on Radio4.
> Marybeth Hamilton is an historian and doesn't even seemparticularly
> interested in, or to have any great love for, the music. Sheon
> certainly did not discuss Morton's music and concentrated instead
> the stories of gamblers, hoodlums, and sharp dressers, and playedan
> substantial extracts from the Lomax interviews. I suspect that, as
> academic, she has found in the Morton Library of Congressrecordings
> a Subject with a capital S. Perhaps I am cynical, but this allhelps
> to retain her academic tenure and, after all, her audience isMorton
> probably a bunch of students and other academics with no interest
> whatsoever in the likes of Jelly Roll Morton. Her interest in
> seems not to extend beyond the LoC sessions which she seems totreat
> as a sociological phenomenon. Alarm bells rang for me when, at thethe
> end of her lecture, no questions from the floor were invited. On
> whole, she was very patronising about the interest shown in Newwhite
> Orleans music and viewed it as mere romanticism. We heard the usual
> stuff about how the Red Hot Peppers sides were highly prized by
> collectors but were a matter of indifference to African-Americans.much
> Oh, and she implied that Mamie Desdumes was maybe a figment of
> Jelly's colourful imagination.
> My verdict is that, with so much real expert knowledge around, a
> better, more informed, and more sympathetic lecture could have been
> given, but not by Dr Hamilton.
> Robert Greenwood
- --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Marco Romano" <m15romano@...> wrote:
>Dr Hamilton gave no indication whatever that she had looked into Mike
> Hello Mr. Greenwood.
> Thank you very much for taking time out to give all of us on this
> group your erudite version of the lecture.
> In my opinion Marybeth Hamilton could not be a very good historian if
> she discounts Mamie Desdunes as being a real person. There is a whole
> lot of information by Mr. Peter Hanley about her and her family at,
Meddings' excellent web site or had taken into account the invaluable
research work found there, but as someone hidden away in a university
department, she is never likely to be called to account by any of her
colleagues. I do not dismiss academia, by the way. I am a graduate
myself and have a daughter at university. I just think that academic
standards should be higher and that research should be thorough. Mamie
Desdunes last night was written off as a three-fingered prostitute
Jelly had known in his youth. Hamilton's tone implied that maybe
Desdunes never existed.