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Re: [RedHotJazz] Re: XR remastering technology

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  • Joel Fritz
    As a fellow Diamond Cut user I have to agree. There s a lot of trial and error involved in using the best tools. BTW, this software originated from a project
    Message 1 of 16 , Dec 21, 2007
      As a fellow Diamond Cut user I have to agree. There's a lot of trial
      and error involved in using the best tools.

      BTW, this software originated from a project to remaster cylinders for
      the Edison Museum. It's the product of good old fashioned hacking in
      the best sense of the word.

      Disclaimer: No relationship with DC, just a hobbyist who likes their

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      Bill Bailey wrote:
      > Dear Dan,
      > I use Diamond Cut Restoration Tools to remaster old 78s. I restored a
      > copy of Bob Crosby's "Diga Diga Do". It was so worn and noisy that you
      > couln't make out Ray Baduc's solo. I found that using the noise and
      > click filters is anythig but automatic: cleaning the music is more art
      > than science and it requires developing Skill at using the software. I
      > was able to recover the solo from the noise after several hours of work
      > and burn a CD.
      > Sample rate is a term that refers to digital temporal resolution.
      > Records are analog and therefore are presumably infinite resolution.The
      > sampling rate of a digital recording must be high enough that it does
      > not distort audible frequencies. You can remaster old music
      > satifactorily and economicaly, but you must take care or you will end up
      > with somthing worse.
      > Bill Bailey
      > Retired Electrical Engineer
      > Dan Van Landingham <danvanlandingham@...
      > <mailto:danvanlandingham%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
      > I noticed that John R.T.Davies did the remastering for all of the CDs I
      > have on the HEP label.
      > What King Oliver I do have in my collection consist of a couple of sides
      > that were recorded
      > in 1930 on RCA.The album came out on VIctor's RCA Camden series.The
      > trumpet heard
      > was Oliver's nephew,pianist and trumpeter Dave Nelson.He wasn't much of
      > a trumpeter but
      > RCA did a good job in remastering the two sides that were on the
      > album.The album was
      > called "Great Jazz Brass" which was a companion to RCA Camden's "Great
      > Jazz Reeds".
      > Tommer <tommersl@... <mailto:tommersl%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
      > Hi, I visited Glen Richards' site and I was thinking about his idea
      > of using a sample rate that is close to the old records rate and not
      > try to use a much higher just because it is available now. As you
      > said, there are many different ideas of how to restore vintage music
      > and it is a good thing that also shows that this field of restoring
      > is in its hot era. I don't have much opinion about the quality of
      > what he did because the records he remastered and put on his site are
      > quite unknown to me, I don't have anything to compare to.
      > tommer
      > --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RedHotJazz%40yahoogroups.com>,
      > "Mark Harwood" <banjo@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi.
      > > Even the experts disagree on the best way to re-master the old
      > > recordings. It's an evolving field. We're lucky that people are
      > > trying different things.
      > > Glen Richards is a restorer. He set up the "Hot Dance & Vintage
      > Jazz"
      > > web site. There is some discussion of this topic there. I suppose
      > the
      > > really technical stuff is elsewhere; I just trust it to be good if
      > > John R.T. Davies did it.
      > > Feedback such as yours, Tommer, must be a crucial element in this
      > > developing science/art/technology.
      > > For me, King Oliver's 1923 recordings are the best, whatever you do
      > > to them, but we can hope that the sound will be improved further.
      > >
      > > --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:RedHotJazz%40yahoogroups.com>, "Tommer" <tommersl@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > I was suspecting that the era we live in today, with all the pc
      > > > technologies that are fortunately available re-mastering
      > > technologies
      > > > using pc filters will arrive at some point. I'm talking about this
      > > > http://www.pristineclassical.com/LargeWorks/Vocal/PABL002.php
      > <http://www.pristineclassical.com/LargeWorks/Vocal/PABL002.php>
      > > >
      > > > Well, I was listening to the song by Robert Johnson and I conclude
      > > > that the technology separates the instruments (vocals from guitar
      > in
      > > > this case) but some of the music is lost. I noticed that I have
      > more
      > > > music on my Complete Recordings cd version of the song than on the
      > > > song published there (easily found on 1:14 off start)
      > > >
      > > > I'm not saying it is a bad idea to re-master like that, actually
      > the
      > > > music or what remained of it is more emphasize since the
      > separation
      > > > and the cleaning of some noises, and I believe it is more
      > suitable
      > > to
      > > > entry level listeners, radio stations and the likes, just that I
      > > feel
      > > > that perhaps in the future it will be something better but right
      > now
      > > > I'm sticking to my cds.
      > > >
      > > > I wonder what people think, can this be the next thing in the
      > > future?
      > > > I wouldn't be surprised if it will be. Some of the vintage Jazz
      > > > records can use more re-mastering, can such technology grow in the
      > > > future and sweep away anything else?
      > > > tommer
      > > >
      > >
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