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Re: [RedHotJazz] Jelly Roll Morton Rounder Set No Longer Available

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  • Andrew Homzy
    I heard - through the grapevine - that the Rounder/Morton set was pulled because of complaints regarding the poor quality of the transfers - and that they will
    Message 1 of 7 , Jan 5, 2006
      I heard - through the grapevine - that the Rounder/Morton set was pulled
      because of complaints regarding the poor quality of the transfers - and that
      they will re-master it correctly.

      Cheers,

      Andrew Homzy, Montréal

      > From: Fredamhran@...
      > Reply-To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:30:40 -0500 (EST)
      > To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [RedHotJazz] Jelly Roll Morton Rounder Set No Longer Available
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      > I've just had some disturbing news from Red Lick, a British based music mail
      > order company, who specialise in blues, jazz and old time country. They say:
      > "THE JELLY ROLL MORTON COMPLETE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS BOXSET ON ROUNDER
      > ROUCD1888. is no longer available. Rounder have just informed their
      > distributors
      > that the box set was in fact a limited edition!!! It has now sold out
      > completely and they are considering reissuing it in the future in a different
      > format.
      > Thank you Rounder! Sorry about this and apologies to those of you who have
      > ordered only to be disappointed. Hopefully the folks at Rounder will get
      > their
      > brains in gear and get this wonderful set reissued soon."
      > Sounds like anyone who hasn't got theirs yet (which includes me), and knows
      > where one can be got (which doesn't include me) should close the deal as fast
      > as possible. This is the first I've heard about it being a limited edition.
      > Believe me folks, I know Rounder of old, and have a lot of respect for them.
      > They do not usually pull a stunt like this.
      > Damn,
      > Fred McCormick
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    • Laurence Swain
      ... I just started listening to the Rounder boxed set I received for Christmas, and the quality (so far, through the first half of the first of 8 CDs) is just
      Message 2 of 7 , Jan 5, 2006
        > I heard - through the grapevine - that the Rounder/Morton set was
        > pulled because of complaints regarding the poor quality of the
        > transfers - and that they will re-master it correctly.
        >
        > Cheers,
        >
        > Andrew Homzy, Montréal

        I just started listening to the Rounder boxed set I received for Christmas, and the quality
        (so far, through the first half of the first of 8 CDs) is just fine. Only a few minutes of
        scratches, etc., and these not too terrible.

        Larry Swain

        Scituate, MA
      • Andrew Homzy
        On another list, there was discussion that the earlier Rounder 4-CD set was much better than the complete - and that the material provided by the Library of
        Message 3 of 7 , Jan 5, 2006
          On another list, there was discussion that the earlier Rounder 4-CD set was
          much better than the complete - and that the material provided by the
          Library of Congress was first-rate. Having not heard the complete Morton, I
          have nothing to say other than I hope there will be a new pressing of this
          fascinating document.

          Cheers,

          Andrew Homzy, Montréal

          > From: Laurence Swain <l.swain@...>
          > Reply-To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
          > Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:10:23 -0500
          > To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Jelly Roll Morton Rounder Set No Longer Available
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          >> I heard - through the grapevine - that the Rounder/Morton set was
          >> pulled because of complaints regarding the poor quality of the
          >> transfers - and that they will re-master it correctly.
          >>
          >> Cheers,
          >>
          >> Andrew Homzy, Montréal
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          > I just started listening to the Rounder boxed set I received for Christmas,
          > and the quality
          > (so far, through the first half of the first of 8 CDs) is just fine. Only a
          > few minutes of
          > scratches, etc., and these not too terrible.
          >
          > Larry Swain
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          > Scituate, MA
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        • Hugh Crozier
          Until someone started to complain about the quality of the new boxed set I had not even considered the issue! I have heard the entire thing from start to
          Message 4 of 7 , Jan 6, 2006
            Until someone started to complain about the quality of the new boxed set I had not even considered the issue! I have heard the entire thing from start to finish now several times and am extremely happy with it. Although I am a musician I have never been very taken by discussions about the quality of reissues, unless something is clearly and blatantly wrong, or clearly and blatantly right, as in the case of John R T Davies's King Oliver reissues. As far as I am concerned, the message, not the medium, is prior.

            So I will go on happily and uncritically enjoying the Library of Congress CDs and revel in the new details they provide for me. My problem will be if Rounder reissue them again in a new (improved?) format. Will I need to buy the new set too? I wonder ...

            Hugh

            Andrew Homzy <homzy@...> wrote:
            On another list, there was discussion that the earlier Rounder 4-CD set was
            much better than the complete - and that the material provided by the
            Library of Congress was first-rate. Having not heard the complete Morton, I
            have nothing to say other than I hope there will be a new pressing of this
            fascinating document.

            Cheers,

            Andrew Homzy, Montréal

            > From: Laurence Swain <l.swain@...>
            > Reply-To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:10:23 -0500
            > To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Jelly Roll Morton Rounder Set No Longer Available
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            >> I heard - through the grapevine - that the Rounder/Morton set was
            >> pulled because of complaints regarding the poor quality of the
            >> transfers - and that they will re-master it correctly.
            >>
            >> Cheers,
            >>
            >> Andrew Homzy, Montréal
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            > I just started listening to the Rounder boxed set I received for Christmas,
            > and the quality
            > (so far, through the first half of the first of 8 CDs) is just fine. Only a
            > few minutes of
            > scratches, etc., and these not too terrible.
            >
            > Larry Swain
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            > Scituate, MA
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          • Michael Rader
            Well, it is an issue if you have the LP version (the last restored by John RT Davies) and wonder if the new set is worth the investment, i.e. in terms of
            Message 5 of 7 , Jan 6, 2006
              Well, it is an issue if you have the LP version (the last restored by John RT Davies) and wonder if the new set is worth the investment, i.e. in terms of additional content and/or enhanced sound quality.

              I would tend to doubt that Rounder would invest in new restoration work, which *is* expensive. The only company I know that has upgraded regularly is Archeophone, or does anyone know if Timeless has redone some of the horrors which marred its otherwise good reputation a few years back?

              Best,

              Michael Rader

              > Until someone started to complain about the quality of the new boxed set I had not even considered the issue! I have heard the entire thing from start to finish now several times and am extremely happy with it. Although I am a musician I have never been very taken by discussions about the quality of reissues, unless something is clearly and blatantly wrong, or clearly and blatantly right, as in the case of John R T Davies's King Oliver reissues. As far as I am concerned, the message, not the medium, is prior.
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              > So I will go on happily and uncritically enjoying the Library of Congress CDs and revel in the new details they provide for me. My problem will be if Rounder reissue them again in a new (improved?) format. Will I need to buy the new set too? I wonder ...
              >
              > Hugh
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              > Andrew Homzy <homzy@...> wrote:
              > On another list, there was discussion that the earlier Rounder 4-CD set was
              > much better than the complete - and that the material provided by the
              > Library of Congress was first-rate. Having not heard the complete Morton, I
              > have nothing to say other than I hope there will be a new pressing of this
              > fascinating document.
              >
              > Cheers,
              >
              > Andrew Homzy, Montréal
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              > > From: Laurence Swain <l.swain@...>
              > > Reply-To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
              > > Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:10:23 -0500
              > > To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Jelly Roll Morton Rounder Set No Longer Available
              > >
              > >> I heard - through the grapevine - that the Rounder/Morton set was
              > >> pulled because of complaints regarding the poor quality of the
              > >> transfers - and that they will re-master it correctly.
              > >>
              > >> Cheers,
              > >>
              > >> Andrew Homzy, Montréal
              > >
              > > I just started listening to the Rounder boxed set I received for Christmas,
              > > and the quality
              > > (so far, through the first half of the first of 8 CDs) is just fine. Only a
              > > few minutes of
              > > scratches, etc., and these not too terrible.
              > >
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              > > Scituate, MA
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            • Fredamhran@aol.com
              Given the mass of pre release publicity, and the fact that no-one else has mentioned poor sound, I d think it most unlikely that Rounder pulled the set for
              Message 6 of 7 , Jan 7, 2006
                Given the mass of pre release publicity, and the fact that no-one else has
                mentioned poor sound, I'd think it most unlikely that Rounder pulled the set
                for this reason.

                Whatever the problem was, let's hope it's back out again soon.

                Cheers,

                Fred McCormick


                In a message dated 06/01/2006 21:38:02 GMT Standard Time,
                RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com writes:

                just started listening to the Rounder boxed set I received for Christmas,
                and the quality
                (so far, through the first half of the first of 8 CDs) is just fine. Only a
                few minutes of
                scratches, etc., and these not too terrible.

                Larry Swain

                Scituate, MA






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