8843Re: [RedHotJazz] Josephine Baker
- Sep 25, 2011I could not have put it any better.
I absolutely second what Patrice wrote here.
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrice Champarou
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Josephine Baker
From: Peter L Reid
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:12 PM
To: Red Hot Jazz
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Josephine Baker
> Not a bad CD, and for French music and vocals I prefer her to Edith Piaff.
Maybe I failed to suspect that this line requested some kind of, er...
Not trying to argue about whatever is a matter of taste, I strongly reject
the basis of the comparison. The only link between both singers is,
obviously, national fame, but the comparison can stop here.
Although she made her first steps on a stage much, much later than
Joséphine, Edith Piaf belonged to an older, deeply rooted repertoire
performed by the likes of Fréhel (with such miserabilist songs as Les mômes
de la cloche), she did inherit the accordion songs performed in the
guinguettes, and even happened to pay her tribute to rural French folklore
(La Julie) - all of which are totally absent from whatever Joséphine ever
sang. Piaf never performed in any other costume than her sempiternal black
dress, and she never appeared in fashionable revues meant for the Parisian
bourgeoisie, with feathers or bananas stuck anywhere onto her body. She was
a "child from the gutter" just as well, but hers was the French gutter, and
she stuck to it because a) that was her commercial trademark and b) she just
could no help, even when she happened to talk in Parisian slang to a
Joséphine Baker's music and lyrics were meant from the start as completely
"exotic" stuff, unrelated to any French tradition.
Even her accent permanently denied that she was singing in French, the same
way as Maurice Chevalier intendedly refused to sound like anything else but
a French guy performing American songs - when he did. Her songs were
thoroughly made up for the part she was supposed to play, as the national
symbol of some imaginary West Indies, Africa, or black America, according to
the needs and opportunities of the time. "French music", by no means...
French music is something completely different, not discussed on this list,
interesting in itself but quite away from any jazz criteria.
Of course, Edith Piaf also recorded in a nearly-jazz context (Browning, Un
Monsieur me suit dans la rue...), in which she completely missed the
instinctive, ambiguous "blue notes" (J'ai dansé avec l'amour) which were
familiar to most American singers of the time. Technically speaking, she
could have overcome that, but the national audience rather asked for a
performer "singing from the heart", as long as she was labeled French.
Although I am not a true addict, I have to admit that the difference between
Edith Piaf and most of her contemporaries (Joséphine, and even more
Mistinguett, included) was that she probably lacked the brightness of a
formatted professional, but she *could* sing!
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