- Aug 10, 2008No, not THE Bandleander Moten. They are talking ´bout an
clarinetplayer who only recorded in the mid 1920´s, mostly with
Clarence Williams Groups.
Really nothing to do with the pianoplayer and bandleader of
Good start with the new week!
Dan Van Landingham <danvanlandingham@...> wrote:
> I take it that the Bennie Moten you mentioned regarding CarmelloJejo was NOT the Bennie
> Moten who worked in Kansas City in the '20s until his death in 1935following a tonsillecto-
> my on a pool table in Kansas City.The Bennie Moten I know of didmake a couple of trips
> to Camden,New Jersey to record for RCA in 1932.Taking of Ramon Usera:
he made recordings with all the Noble Sissle Bands between 1929 to
1924. Sissle made an shortie to the British Pathe , Jan. 1930.
According to the list of Bandmembers by the Sissle Band, Usera is with
the Pathefilm (the film is on youtube).
Also with this Band is Arthur Briggs on tp., a star of his own in
Europe of the 20´s.
Re: Bennie Moten a Bennie Motton is listed as the clarinet player on a
Joe Jordan big band from 1926 in the same page of McCarthy's book,
presume it to be Bennie Moten, who played clarinet and alto on some
1926 Clarence Wiiliams sessions (usually mid 1926, I believe moist
sources pin Bennie for the Blue Grass Footwarmers' sessions, ex.
Harmony 248, a really nice version of "Old Folks Shuffle" fine
clarinet). Jari is usually listed for the first couple Williams
sessions in 1927, before Leon Abbey went to South America. Both
clarinet players are above the grade we usually find in NYC, though I
am beginning to think (after hearing the Bearcats again) that Jari was
actually a first rank player, good reader and a fine soloist on the
clarinet, we may have our man for Flo (and "One O Clock Blues", he is
in town and was possible able for the session), had he not died in 1929.
> One other bit, the LeRoy Tibbs 78 ("One O Clock Blues"/"I Got Worry"Columbia 14309), has a clarinet solo on One O Clock that matches
somewhat the approach to Jari's work ands RHF, more interesting is
that the clarinet on "I Got Worry" matches Arville Harris, but there
is a baritone sax solo of some quality, could Jari be the third reed
player on this session? The Tibbs band was one that LeRoy inherited
because of Ollie Ross had a disagreement with the management on what
drummer was to play in the band. One should note that Ollie Ross is
identified with the Lew Leslie Blackbird revues, that Jari, Usera etc
played with- and recorded 2 78's for Brunswick, one backing Adeline
hall, the other instrumental) . The instrumental 78 on Brunswick
(issued so well on Harrison LP R) has a fantastic clarinet solo by
Jari on "Bandana Babies", I think he may well be the same man as on
Red Hot Flo and One O Clock Blues (but do not discount the possibilty
of Moten, if
> he is the clarinet on Harmony 248. Like the Leslie band very much,BTW (the flip side has a nice unison clarinet section, but rather odd
solos by Socrras on flute and Usera on tenor)
> Kudos to both Michael and Howard on this one, I am fascinated by allof this, thanks Yves
>from PR in the late teens for the marching band, because there were
> BTW Michael, was it Jim Europe who searched for clarinet players
not proficient enough clarinet players in NYC in 1917, I seem to
remember this, and I think the connections of Puerto Rico and Harlem
goes back much further than salsa and Machito (indeed, one of the
reedmen Howard mentioned from the Blackbirds band of 1928, Ramon
Usera, is directly responsible for the arrangements on the Victor
recordings of Daniel Santos, a superstar of proto salsa music), all
> > Jejo's (he also play baritone sax), although Demas Dean
> > says Otto Mikell played the baritone sax solos and that Jejo
> > was responsible for the clarinet. The Abbey band arrived in
> > Rio de Janiero on 25 May 1927, which means that Jejo/Jari
> > could have been on any of the Clarence Williams recordings
> > before May 1927.
> > Jejo was also in the band for Lew Leslie's Blackbirds
> > of 1928. His section mates also had latin-American names -
> > Albert Socarras and Raymond Or Ramon) Usera. The third
> > member of the Bearcats reed section was tenor
> > saxist/clarinetist Ramon Hernandez - which indicates a
> > concentration of Caribbean reed players in New York in the
> > 1920s.
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