6048Re: [RedHotJazz] Dodds with Oliver
- Jul 17, 2008Oh come on!
These weren¹t proposed as Olivers even in the days when people with records
to sell labelled any unknown trumpeter King Oliver. There¹s a long list of
them in the original Walter Allen-Brian Rust King Oliver book.
And the date is really 16 September, the day before. Traditionally the
trumpet is attributed to Natty Dominique but Rust 4 onwards say ³unknown
(not Natty Dominique)². No idea why.
The only publication of the John Dodds II recollections in bibliographies is
the notes to Chicago Mess Around¹, Milestone MLP2011 (1969). I imagine
these are what this web-site has copied.
on 17/07/2008 13:23, Michael Rader at Rader.Michael@... wrote:
>Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
> There is a Finnish website devoted to Johnny Dodds, which, among other
> things, has a Dodds discography:
> The personnel for the Bertrand's Washboard Wizards session of 17
> September 1926 (I think - the date is in unfamiliar notation for me)
> lists Oliver (presumably Joe)instead of Miller (presumably Punch)in an
> older version.
> Apart from the proximity to the Oliver "Someday Sweetheart" sessions,
> does anyone know the reason for the change? Opinions on the
> identification are also welcome.
> What prompted me to visit the website was an off-group discussion on
> the Clarence Williams "Red Hot Flo" (from Kokomo) with its Doddsian
> clarinet solo. The website also has a piece on the reminiscences of
> Johnny's son, John Dodds II, in which he remembers seeing Clarence
> Williams playing piano. These are taken from a tape account by John
> Steiner and an interview with Alessandro Protti. Does anyone know (1)
> if John Dodds II (born 1921) is still alive and (2) what else was said
> in the interviews?
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