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499Re: [RedHotJazz] Some invective

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  • vintagetenor
    Jun 16, 2005

      Let me start out by saying that I love Coon-Sanders, and regard them as one of the consistently hot bands of the jazz age.

      But remember that Dick Sudhalter has been an esteemed jazz historian for many decades. I think the disparity here, in my opinion, lies in what each of you consideres to be jazz.

      I think Dick comes from the more traditional apporach to what jazz is, and was commenting on Coon-Sanders' lack of high quality jazz soloists; that they didn't have any Buster Baileys, Joe Venutis, et al.

      But in my book, they got along very well without them, considering.

      Mike Amato

      emuslan <euslan@...> wrote:

      I recently joined the list and I've enjoyed reading the posts. This
      is my first posting...

      Is anyone familiar with Richard Sudhalter's awkwardly entitled "Lost
      Chords: White Jazz Musicians and Their Contributions to Jazz"? I just
      looked up Coon-Sanders in the index, to see what this expert on jazz
      persons of pallor has to say. And this is what he says:

      "The Coon-Sanders Nighthawks, a Kansas City dance band whose `jazz'
      novelties had become, at best, a bloodless parody of hot music, had
      moved in at the Blackhawk and were broadcasting nightly over WGN.
      What passed for `hot' was usually novelty material like "Here Comes
      My Ball and Chain" and "Kansas City Kitty"………Once in a while a
      trumpeter or saxophonist might pop out of the ensemble to 'get off'
      for eight bars; but even then the public seemed to recognize no
      distinction between the solo efforts of dedicated hot players and
      those of journeyman dance band men."

      Ouch! I think Sudhalter is way out of line here - anybody with me?


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