4764Re: [RedHotJazz] Earliest jazz in Europe
- Sep 27, 2007The influence, if real, must have been from African-American string bands.
Drummer Louis Mitchell first appeared in Paris in November 1916 as a member
of La Belle Leonora's Ragtime Orchestra, but it was his engagement with his
own band at the Paris Alhambra a year later which really attracted
attention. The records made by the band at Ciro's for English Columbia in
1916/17 may have been available in France. Other English ragtime records
with advanced drumming such as those of the Savoy Quartet might also have
been involved. Are there any equivalent French recordings? I know of no
recordings of African-American musicians in France before Mitchell's Jazz
Kings, (Despite repeated speculation to the contrary, the Orchestre
Scrap-Iron Jazzerinos were definitely white Americans but in any case they
didn't record until late in 1918.)
Any better suggestion from our French folk?
The Hellfighters didn't land in France until 1 January 1918 and it seems to
have been at least the middle of the month before the band was heard by
French people. (Gerard Conté appears to believe their first concert was that
on 12 February at Nantes.)
I suspect we're really looking at influence from popular ragtime, which is
not likely to be distinguishable at this early date.
on 27/9/07 15:46, epistrophy@... at epistrophy@... wrote:
I've been doing some looking into the influence of jazz on European concert
music. I was surprised to see that Erik Satie's work was colored by jazz as
early as 1917, when he composed the ballet "Parade". This made me wonder
how early in the century jazz musicians made their way to Europe to cause
influence. I'm assuming that these influences came through live
performances instead of recordings. So, who would people like Satie have
been able to
hear before the end of the First World War?
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