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  • William Liporace - WC2L
    Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another?? TNX Will WC2L
    Message 1 of 25 , Jan 6, 2013
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      Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??


      TNX Will WC2L

    • Kutche, Jerry (Mitchell) USA
      Windisk32 ________________________________ From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com To:
      Message 2 of 25 , Jan 6, 2013
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        Windisk32


        From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com <Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com <Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sun Jan 06 08:49:03 2013
        Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??

         

        Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??


        TNX Will WC2L

      • Rick Simpson
        Google copy raspi sd . (without the quotes) ... From: Kutche, Jerry (Mitchell) USA To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06,
        Message 3 of 25 , Jan 6, 2013
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          Google "copy raspi sd". (without the quotes)
           
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          Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 10:43 AM
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          Windisk32

           

          Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??


          TNX Will WC2L

        • William Liporace - WC2L
          Appreciate the answers. Interestingly, I had figured it out. One question, is there a way to copy from 8 GB card to a 4 GB card? I know I can go the other way
          Message 4 of 25 , Jan 6, 2013
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            Appreciate the answers…  Interestingly, I had figured it out… One question, is there a way to copy from 8 GB card to a 4 GB card? I know I can go the other way ;-)

             

             

            TNX Will WC2L

             

            From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William Liporace - WC2L
            Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:49 AM
            To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??

             




            Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??


            TNX Will WC2L




          • John D. Hays
            On Linux you can carefully use the dd or cpio commands. ... John D. Hays K7VE PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223
            Message 5 of 25 , Jan 6, 2013
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              On Linux you can carefully use the dd or cpio commands.



              John D. Hays
              K7VE
              PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 
                


              On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:05 AM, William Liporace - WC2L <wc2l@...> wrote:
               

              Appreciate the answers…  Interestingly, I had figured it out… One question, is there a way to copy from 8 GB card to a 4 GB card? I know I can go the other way ;-)

               

               

              TNX Will WC2L


            • Rick Nicholson
              Will   Not if the image has been resized to fill the card, you would have benn given that option when you first loaded the card and booted the image.   If
              Message 6 of 25 , Jan 6, 2013
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                Will
                 
                Not if the image has been resized to fill the card, you would have benn given that option when you first loaded the card and booted the image.
                 
                If resizing has not been done the card you should be able to copy and reloaded on the 4GB card..
                 
                You can check this by reading the card and see how much of the image was expanded onto the card. if it is less than 4GB you should be good to go!
                 
                 
                Rick/n9umj

                From: William Liporace - WC2L <wc2l@...>
                To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 2:05 PM
                Subject: RE: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                 
                Appreciate the answers…  Interestingly, I had figured it out… One question, is there a way to copy from 8 GB card to a 4 GB card? I know I can go the other way ;-)
                 
                 
                TNX Will WC2L
                 
                From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William Liporace - WC2L
                Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:49 AM
                To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                 



                Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??

                TNX Will WC2L



              • Rick Nicholson
                Will   If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in
                Message 7 of 25 , Jan 6, 2013
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                  Will
                   
                  If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name of the utility.
                   
                   
                  Rick

                  From: William Liporace - WC2L <wc2l@...>
                  To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                  Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                   
                  Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??

                  TNX Will WC2L
                • Andy B
                  It s Win32diskimager (winimage for short): https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download You can use gparted in another linux box to resize up & down.
                  Message 8 of 25 , Jan 7, 2013
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                    It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):  https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download

                    You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.

                    However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                    can't get smaller image.    The Winimage makes image of the entire
                    drive.  IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                    this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)

                    " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                    Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)

                     
                    Later,Andy (AC2HE)

                    From: Rick Nicholson <n9umj@...>
                    To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com" <Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                    Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??

                     
                    Will
                     
                    If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name of the utility.
                     
                     
                    Rick

                    From: William Liporace - WC2L <wc2l@...>
                    To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                    Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                     
                    Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??

                    TNX Will WC2L


                  • John
                    If you are running Linux use dd: man dd for help.
                    Message 9 of 25 , Jan 9, 2013
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                      If you are running Linux use dd:
                      man dd for help.


                      --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                      >
                      > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short): https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                      >
                      > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                      >
                      > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                      > can't get smaller image.    The Winimage makes image of the entire
                      > drive.  IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                      > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                      >
                      > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                      > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                      >
                      >
                      >  
                      > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                      >
                      >
                      > ________________________________
                      > From: Rick Nicholson
                      > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                      > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                      > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                      >
                      >
                      >  
                      > Will
                      >  
                      > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name of the utility.
                      >  
                      >  
                      > Rick
                      >
                      > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                      > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                      > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                      >
                      >  
                      > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??
                      >
                      > TNX Will WC2L
                      >
                    • Jeff Francis™
                      While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if you re on a Debian-derived linux, do sudo apt-get install dd_rescue ). dd_rescue gives you
                      Message 10 of 25 , Jan 9, 2013
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                          While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install dd_rescue").  dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time estimates.  Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.

                          To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard drive.  Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the image file on your hard drive foo.dd.  Run the following command:

                        sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd

                        or if you prefer dd:

                        sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k

                          After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard drive called foo.dd.  That file is typically very compressable.  Use bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.

                          To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar.  Again, assume sdb and foo.dd:

                        sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                        or
                        sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k

                          Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is.  If you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your hard drive rather than your SD card.  Errors are dangerous!

                          If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc), you can copy directly from one card to the other:

                        sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                        or
                        sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k

                          This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different sizes.  If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig card unless/until you expand the filesystem.  No harm done.  On the other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can cause yourself endless grief.  First of all, there's no guarantee that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem.  Your system will also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of headaches.  The solution here is to mount the source device (for example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt").  Then you can copy the contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/deadbeef/ /mnt/").  Again, don't just guess the values where the "?" are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently).  Using rsync will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the available space on the smaller card.  If you don't have rsync on your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:

                        cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/

                          But that's pretty old-school. :D  Doing a recursive copy with cp may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the flags you provide.  And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /dev/, /proc/, etc).



                        On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John <ne3e001@...> wrote:
                         

                        If you are running Linux use dd:
                        man dd for help.

                        --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                        >
                        > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short): https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download


                        >
                        > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                        >
                        > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                        > can't get smaller image.    The Winimage makes image of the entire
                        > drive.  IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing

                        > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                        >
                        > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                        > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                        >
                        >
                        >  

                        > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                        >
                        >
                        > ________________________________
                        > From: Rick Nicholson
                        > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                        > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                        > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                        >
                        >
                        >  
                        > Will
                        >  

                        > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name of the utility.
                        >  
                        >  

                        > Rick
                        >
                        > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                        > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                        > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                        >
                        >  
                        > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??
                        >
                        > TNX Will WC2L
                        >




                        --
                        -=jeff=-
                      • William Liporace - WC2L
                        Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson! Will WC2L From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                        Message 11 of 25 , Jan 9, 2013
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                          Awesome!! Thank you  for the lesson!

                           

                          Will WC2L

                           

                          From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Francis™
                          Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                          To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??

                           



                            While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install dd_rescue").  dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time estimates.  Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.

                           

                            To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard drive.  Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the image file on your hard drive foo.dd.  Run the following command:

                           

                          sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd

                           

                          or if you prefer dd:

                           

                          sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k

                           

                            After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard drive called foo.dd.  That file is typically very compressable.  Use bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.

                           

                            To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar.  Again, assume sdb and foo.dd:

                           

                          sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb

                          or

                          sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k

                           

                            Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is.  If you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your hard drive rather than your SD card.  Errors are dangerous!

                           

                            If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc), you can copy directly from one card to the other:

                           

                          sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc

                          or

                          sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k

                           

                            This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different sizes.  If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig card unless/until you expand the filesystem.  No harm done.  On the other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can cause yourself endless grief.  First of all, there's no guarantee that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem.  Your system will also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of headaches.  The solution here is to mount the source device (for example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt").  Then you can copy the contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/deadbeef/ /mnt/").  Again, don't just guess the values where the "?" are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently).  Using rsync will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the available space on the smaller card.  If you don't have rsync on your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:

                           

                          cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/

                           

                            But that's pretty old-school. :D  Doing a recursive copy with cp may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the flags you provide.  And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /dev/, /proc/, etc).

                           

                           

                          On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John <ne3e001@...> wrote:

                           

                          If you are running Linux use dd:
                          man dd for help.

                          --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                          >
                          > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short): https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download


                          >
                          > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                          >
                          > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition

                          > can't get smaller image.    The Winimage makes image of the entire
                          > drive.  IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing


                          > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                          >
                          > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                          > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                          >
                          >

                          >  


                          > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                          >
                          >
                          > ________________________________
                          > From: Rick Nicholson

                          > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"

                          > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                          > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                          >
                          >

                          >  
                          > Will
                          >  


                          > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name of the utility.

                          >  
                          >  


                          > Rick
                          >
                          > From: William Liporace - WC2L

                          > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                          > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                          > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                          >

                          >  

                          > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??
                          >
                          > TNX Will WC2L
                          >



                           

                          --
                          -=jeff=-




                        • Kutche, Jerry (Mitchell) USA
                          Jerry Kutche Electrical Supervisor Lehigh Cement Company LLC 180 N. Meridian Road Mitchell, IN 47446 Phone: (812) 849-2191 ext. 251 Fax: (812) 849-5007
                          Message 12 of 25 , Jan 10, 2013
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                            Mitchell, IN  47446
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                            From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Francis™
                            Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                            To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??

                             

                              While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install dd_rescue").  dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time estimates.  Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.


                              To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard drive.  Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the image file on your hard drive foo.dd.  Run the following command:

                            sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd

                            or if you prefer dd:

                            sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k

                              After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard drive called foo.dd.  That file is typically very compressable.  Use bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.

                              To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar.  Again, assume sdb and foo.dd:

                            sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                            or
                            sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k

                              Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is.  If you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your hard drive rather than your SD card.  Errors are dangerous!

                              If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc), you can copy directly from one card to the other:

                            sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                            or
                            sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k

                              This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different sizes.  If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig card unless/until you expand the filesystem.  No harm done.  On the other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can cause yourself endless grief.  First of all, there's no guarantee that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem.  Your system will also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of headaches.  The solution here is to mount the source device (for example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt").  Then you can copy the contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/deadbeef/ /mnt/").  Again, don't just guess the values where the "?" are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently).  Using rsync will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the available space on the smaller card.  If you don't have rsync on your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:

                            cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/

                              But that's pretty old-school. :D  Doing a recursive copy with cp may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the flags you provide.  And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /dev/, /proc/, etc).



                            On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John <ne3e001@...> wrote:
                             

                            If you are running Linux use dd:
                            man dd for help.

                            --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                            >
                            > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short): https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download


                            >
                            > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                            >
                            > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                            > can't get smaller image.    The Winimage makes image of the entire
                            > drive.  IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing

                            > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                            >
                            > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                            > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                            >
                            >
                            >  

                            > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                            >
                            >
                            > ________________________________
                            > From: Rick Nicholson
                            > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                            > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                            > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                            >
                            >
                            >  
                            > Will
                            >  

                            > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name of the utility.
                            >  
                            >  

                            > Rick
                            >
                            > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                            > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                            > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                            >
                            >  
                            > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??
                            >
                            > TNX Will WC2L
                            >




                            --
                            -=jeff=-

                          • John B. Cundiff Jr
                            I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle . that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer. I
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                              I wood like to buy a SD card  pre loaded with Linux OS and  SDR  programs I can use with a  Realtec Dongle .
                              that I can use with the Raspberry Pi  computer.
                              I have been unable to  make my own SD cards that will  work.




                              On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:

                               

                              Awesome!! Thank you  for the lesson!

                               

                              Will WC2L

                               

                              From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Francis™
                              Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                              To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??

                               



                                While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install dd_rescue").  dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time estimates.  Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.

                               

                                To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard drive.  Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the image file on your hard drive foo.dd.  Run the following command:

                               

                              sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd

                               

                              or if you prefer dd:

                               

                              sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k

                               

                                After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard drive called foo.dd.  That file is typically very compressable.  Use bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.

                               

                                To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar.  Again, assume sdb and foo.dd:

                               

                              sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb

                              or

                              sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k

                               

                                Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is.  If you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your hard drive rather than your SD card.  Errors are dangerous!

                               

                                If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc), you can copy directly from one card to the other:

                               

                              sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc

                              or

                              sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k

                               

                                This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different sizes.  If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig card unless/until you expand the filesystem.  No harm done.  On the other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can cause yourself endless grief.  First of all, there's no guarantee that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem.  Your system will also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of headaches.  The solution here is to mount the source device (for example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt").  Then you can copy the contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/deadbeef/ /mnt/").  Again, don't just guess the values where the "?" are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently).  Using rsync will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the available space on the smaller card.  If you don't have rsync on your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:

                               

                              cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/

                               

                                But that's pretty old-school. :D  Doing a recursive copy with cp may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the flags you provide.  And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /dev/, /proc/, etc).

                               

                               

                              On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John <ne3e001@...> wrote:

                               

                              If you are running Linux use dd:
                              man dd for help.

                              --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                              >
                              > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short): https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download


                              >
                              > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                              >
                              > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition

                              > can't get smaller image.    The Winimage makes image of the entire
                              > drive.  IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing


                              > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                              >
                              > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                              > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                              >
                              >

                              >  


                              > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                              >
                              >
                              > ________________________________
                              > From: Rick Nicholson

                              > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"

                              > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                              > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                              >
                              >

                              >  
                              > Will
                              >  


                              > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name of the utility.

                              >  
                              >  


                              > Rick
                              >
                              > From: William Liporace - WC2L

                              > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                              > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                              >

                              >  

                              > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or can copy the files from one to another??
                              >
                              > TNX Will WC2L
                              >



                               

                              --
                              -=jeff=-






                            • Andy
                              John: Here s a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268 Don t believe you
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                                John:

                                Here's a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy
                                image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268

                                Don't believe you can boot from a dongle,maybe some one else knows for sure. You boot from the SD slot built into the Pi.

                                This place has lots of accessories for the Pi. I have no connection to them other than buying from them a few times.

                                Later Andy (AC2HE)


                                --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr" wrote:
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                >
                                > jbcundiffjr@...
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                >
                                > >
                                > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Will WC2L
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff Francis™
                                > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > or if you prefer dd:
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                > >
                                > > or
                                > >
                                > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                > >
                                > > or
                                > >
                                > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                > > man dd for help.
                                > >
                                > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > >
                                > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                > > >
                                > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                > >
                                > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                > > entire
                                > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                > > >
                                > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > > > Â
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > ________________________________
                                > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                > >
                                > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                > >
                                > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > > > Â
                                > > > Will
                                > > > Â
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                > > of the utility.
                                > >
                                > > > Â
                                > > > Â
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > > Rick
                                > > >
                                > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                > >
                                > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > > > Â
                                > >
                                > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                > > >
                                > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                > > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > --
                                > > -=jeff=-
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                >
                              • John B. Cundiff Jr
                                Do not want to boot from a Dongle ,,the Software Defined Radio is in the Dongle that plugs into the USB port. The SD card I will boot from and it needs to
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                                  Do not want to boot from a Dongle ,,the Software Defined Radio is in the Dongle  that plugs into the USB port.
                                  The SD card   I will boot from  and it  needs to also  contain the Software Defined Radio  software for trhe  Realtec  Doongle   and the Linux operating system.
                                  I want some body who knows how to  sell me a preloaded SD memory card  with both the  OS and  SDR software on it .
                                  So all I got to do is  plug and play .

                                  john KA3WSR   jbcundiffjr@...



                                  On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Andy wrote:

                                   



                                  John:

                                  Here's a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy
                                  image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268

                                  Don't believe you can boot from a dongle,maybe some one else knows for sure. You boot from the SD slot built into the Pi.

                                  This place has lots of accessories for the Pi. I have no connection to them other than buying from them a few times.

                                  Later Andy (AC2HE)

                                  --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr" wrote:
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                  > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                  > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                  > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                  >
                                  > jbcundiffjr@...
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Will WC2L
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff Francis™
                                  > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                  > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                  > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                  > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                  > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                  > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                  > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                  > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > or if you prefer dd:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                  > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                  > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                  > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                  > >
                                  > > or
                                  > >
                                  > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                  > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                  > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                  > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                  > >
                                  > > or
                                  > >
                                  > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                  > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                  > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                  > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                  > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                  > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                  > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                  > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                  > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                  > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                  > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                  > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                  > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                  > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                  > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                  > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                  > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                  > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                  > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                  > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                  > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                  > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                  > > man dd for help.
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                  > >
                                  > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                  > > entire
                                  > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                  > > >
                                  > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                  > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > > > Â
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > ________________________________
                                  > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                  > >
                                  > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                  > >
                                  > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                  > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > Will
                                  > > > Â
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                  > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                  > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                  > > of the utility.
                                  > >
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > Â
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > > Rick
                                  > > >
                                  > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                  > >
                                  > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                  > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > > > Â
                                  > >
                                  > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                  > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                  > > >
                                  > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > --
                                  > > -=jeff=-
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  >


                                • John B. Cundiff Jr.
                                  From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:20 PM To:
                                  Message 16 of 25 , Jan 10, 2013
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                                    From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy
                                    Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:20 PM
                                    To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??

                                     

                                     

                                    i have a  SD card with the   Linux OS  needed for  the Pi...but I do not know how to  load the  Software defined radio software onto the SD card 

                                    so I can use the SDR   Dongle I bought that has the  Radio receiver circuits in it .

                                     



                                    John:

                                    Here's a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy
                                    image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268

                                    Don't believe you can boot from a dongle,maybe some one else knows for sure. You boot from the SD slot built into the Pi.

                                    This place has lots of accessories for the Pi. I have no connection to them other than buying from them a few times.

                                    Later Andy (AC2HE)

                                    --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr" wrote:
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                    > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                    > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                    > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                    >
                                    > jbcundiffjr@...
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                    >
                                    > >
                                    > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Will WC2L
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff Francis™
                                    > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                    > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                    > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                    > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                    > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                    > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                    > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                    > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > or if you prefer dd:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                    > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                    > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                    > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                    > >
                                    > > or
                                    > >
                                    > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                    > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                    > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                    > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                    > >
                                    > > or
                                    > >
                                    > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                    > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                    > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                    > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                    > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                    > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                    > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                    > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                    > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                    > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                    > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                    > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                    > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                    > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                    > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                    > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                    > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                    > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                    > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                    > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                    > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                    > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                    > > man dd for help.
                                    > >
                                    > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                    > >
                                    > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                    > > entire
                                    > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                    > > >
                                    > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                    > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > > > Â
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > ________________________________
                                    > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                    > >
                                    > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                    > >
                                    > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                    > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > > > Â
                                    > > > Will
                                    > > > Â
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                    > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                    > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                    > > of the utility.
                                    > >
                                    > > > Â
                                    > > > Â
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > > Rick
                                    > > >
                                    > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                    > >
                                    > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                    > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > > > Â
                                    > >
                                    > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                    > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                    > > >
                                    > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                    > > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > --
                                    > > -=jeff=-
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    >

                                  • Alan Melia
                                    Farnell ( & CPC) sell programmed SD cards in UK (Premier in US??) these are 4G but if you are going to use this you need to be able to update the OS regularly
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                                      Farnell ( & CPC) sell programmed SD cards in UK (Premier in US??) these are
                                      4G but if you are going to use this you need to be able to update the OS
                                      regularly things are changing all the time. The preprogrammed cards my not
                                      be the latest Rasbian though you may be able to update on line once working.
                                      Alan
                                      G3NYK
                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                      From: "Andy" <oldtech60@...>
                                      To: <Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com>
                                      Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:19 PM
                                      Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??




                                      John:

                                      Here's a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy
                                      image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268

                                      Don't believe you can boot from a dongle,maybe some one else knows for sure.
                                      You boot from the SD slot built into the Pi.

                                      This place has lots of accessories for the Pi. I have no connection to them
                                      other than buying from them a few times.

                                      Later Andy (AC2HE)


                                      --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr"
                                      wrote:
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                      > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                      > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                      > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                      >
                                      > jbcundiffjr@...
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                      >
                                      > >
                                      > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > Will WC2L
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff FrancisT
                                      > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                      > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                      > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                      > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                      > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                      > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                      > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                      > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > or if you prefer dd:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                      > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                      > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                      > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                      > >
                                      > > or
                                      > >
                                      > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                      > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                      > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                      > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                      > >
                                      > > or
                                      > >
                                      > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                      > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                      > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                      > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                      > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                      > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                      > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                      > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                      > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                      > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                      > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                      > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                      > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                      > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                      > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                      > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                      > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                      > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                      > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                      > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                      > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                      > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                      > > man dd for help.
                                      > >
                                      > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                      > > >
                                      > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â
                                      > > > https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                      > > >
                                      > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                      > >
                                      > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                      > > entire
                                      > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                      > > >
                                      > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                      > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      > > > Â
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > > > ________________________________
                                      > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                      > >
                                      > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                      > >
                                      > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                      > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                      > > >
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      > > > Â
                                      > > > Will
                                      > > > Â
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                      > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                      > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                      > > of the utility.
                                      > >
                                      > > > Â
                                      > > > Â
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > > Rick
                                      > > >
                                      > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                      > >
                                      > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                      > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      > > > Â
                                      > >
                                      > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                      > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                      > > >
                                      > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                      > > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > --
                                      > > -=jeff=-
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      >




                                      ------------------------------------

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                                    • Rick Simpson
                                      I think what John is talking about as a SDR dongle is a DVB-T stick that many people are now using as an inexpensive ($15) wide-band SDR receiver that puts
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                                        I think what John is talking about as a "SDR dongle" is a DVB-T stick that many people are now using as an inexpensive ($15) wide-band SDR receiver that puts out the SDR I and Q signals on the USB connector. They connect the I and Q signals to a PC sound card and use conventional SDR software on the PC to process and display the signals. I doubt that a Pi has sufficient processing power to emulate the capabilities of a sound card and also run the SDR software necessary to complete the processing and run the display and controls. If such a program could be written for the Pi there would be a huge demand for the SD card with Linux and the SDR program all properly configured for use with the dongle.
                                         
                                        Rick
                                        K3IND
                                         
                                        --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr"
                                        wrote:
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I wood
                                        like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                        > programs I can
                                        use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                        > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi
                                        computer.
                                        > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will
                                        work.
                                        >
                                        > jbcundiffjr@...
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > On Jan 9,
                                        2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Will WC2L
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > [mailto:
                                        href="mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com">Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff FrancisT
                                        > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013
                                        7:19 PM
                                        > > To:
                                        href="mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com">Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > While dd
                                        works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                        > > you're on a
                                        Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                        > > dd_rescue").
                                        dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                        > > estimates.
                                        Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need
                                        to know which
                                        > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image
                                        file on your hard
                                        > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and
                                        you want to name the
                                        > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the
                                        following command:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > sudo
                                        dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > or
                                        if you prefer dd:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > sudo dd
                                        if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                        > >
                                        drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                        > >
                                        bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                        > >
                                        assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > sudo
                                        dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                        > >
                                        > > or
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is.
                                        If
                                        > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto
                                        your
                                        > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are
                                        dangerous!
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > If you have two
                                        SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                        > > you can copy
                                        directly from one card to the other:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        or
                                        > >
                                        > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > This doesn't work for moving data
                                        between cards of different
                                        > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an
                                        8gig, you won't hurt
                                        > > anything, other than you'll only use half of
                                        the space on the 8gig
                                        > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem.
                                        No harm done. On the
                                        > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image
                                        onto a 4gig card, you can
                                        > > cause yourself endless grief. First of
                                        all, there's no guarantee
                                        > > that even if there's less than 4gig of
                                        data on the 8gig image that
                                        > > the data is at the "bottom" of the
                                        filesystem. Your system will
                                        > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig
                                        device, causing all sorts of
                                        > > headaches. The solution here is to
                                        mount the source device (for
                                        > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then
                                        partition, format, and mount the
                                        > > destination device ("sudo fdisk
                                        /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                        > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd??
                                        /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                        > > contents with something like rsync
                                        ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                        > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't
                                        just guess the values where the "?"
                                        > > are, you're guaranteed to hork
                                        things permanently). Using rsync
                                        > > will work so long as the data from
                                        the larger card will fit in the
                                        > > available space on the smaller
                                        card. If you don't have rsync on
                                        > > your system, you can do it the way
                                        we did it in the old days:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > But that's pretty old-school. :D
                                        Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                        > > may or may not preserve ownership
                                        and permissions, depending on the
                                        > > flags you provide. And it won't
                                        copy special files (ie, files in /
                                        > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > On Wed,
                                        Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                        > > man dd for
                                        help.
                                        > >
                                        > > --- In
                                        href="mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com">Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                        > > >
                                        > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage
                                        for short):Â
                                        > > >
                                        href="https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download">https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > You can use "gparted" in
                                        another linux box to resize up & down.
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                        > >
                                        > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of
                                        the
                                        > > entire
                                        > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's
                                        what we get. Will be pursuing
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > > this
                                        more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                        > > >
                                        > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package
                                        manager.
                                        > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the
                                        right partition!:)
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > >
                                        > > > Â
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        ________________________________
                                        > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                        > >
                                        > > > To: "
                                        href="mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com">Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                        > >
                                        > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                        > > >
                                        Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > >
                                        > > > Â
                                        > > >
                                        Will
                                        > > > Â
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > > If you have
                                        a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                        > > onto another
                                        card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                        > > imager
                                        reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                        > > of
                                        the utility.
                                        > >
                                        > > > Â
                                        > > > Â
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > > Rick
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                        > >
                                        > > > To:
                                        href="mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com">Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                        > > > Subject:
                                        [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                        > > >
                                        > >
                                        > > > Â
                                        > >
                                        > > > Is there an easy way to
                                        copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                        > > can copy the files from
                                        one to another??
                                        > > >
                                        > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                        > > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > --
                                        > > -=jeff=-
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        >

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                                      • John B. Cundiff Jr
                                        I already have one of these SD cards with the Linux OS on it ...and it workls fine. I can cruise the internet wit it BUT . it does not have the software I
                                        Message 19 of 25 , Jan 11, 2013
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                                          I already have one of these SD cards  with the Linux OS on it ...and it workls fine.  I can cruise the internet wit it 
                                            BUT . it does not have the software I need to operate the Realtec Dongle receiver .
                                          So I can not  run Software Defined Radio programs  I do not know how to load onto the SD card..

                                          On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Alan Melia wrote:

                                           

                                          Farnell ( & CPC) sell programmed SD cards in UK (Premier in US??) these are
                                          4G but if you are going to use this you need to be able to update the OS
                                          regularly things are changing all the time. The preprogrammed cards my not
                                          be the latest Rasbian though you may be able to update on line once working.
                                          Alan
                                          G3NYK
                                          ----- Original Message -----
                                          From: "Andy" oldtech60@...>
                                          To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com>
                                          Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:19 PM
                                          Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??

                                          John:

                                          Here's a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy
                                          image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268

                                          Don't believe you can boot from a dongle,maybe some one else knows for sure.
                                          You boot from the SD slot built into the Pi.

                                          This place has lots of accessories for the Pi. I have no connection to them
                                          other than buying from them a few times.

                                          Later Andy (AC2HE)

                                          --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr"
                                          wrote:
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                          > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                          > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                          > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                          >
                                          > jbcundiffjr@...
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                          >
                                          > >
                                          > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > Will WC2L
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff FrancisT
                                          > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                          > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                          > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                          > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                          > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                          > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                          > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                          > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > or if you prefer dd:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                          > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                          > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                          > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                          > >
                                          > > or
                                          > >
                                          > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                          > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                          > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                          > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                          > >
                                          > > or
                                          > >
                                          > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                          > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                          > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                          > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                          > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                          > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                          > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                          > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                          > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                          > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                          > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                          > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                          > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                          > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                          > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                          > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                          > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                          > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                          > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                          > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                          > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                          > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                          > > man dd for help.
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â
                                          > > > https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                          > >
                                          > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                          > > entire
                                          > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                          > > >
                                          > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                          > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          > > > Â
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > ________________________________
                                          > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                          > >
                                          > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                          > >
                                          > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                          > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > Will
                                          > > > Â
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                          > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                          > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                          > > of the utility.
                                          > >
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > Â
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > > Rick
                                          > > >
                                          > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                          > >
                                          > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                          > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          > > > Â
                                          > >
                                          > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                          > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                          > > >
                                          > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > --
                                          > > -=jeff=-
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          >

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                                        • John B. Cundiff Jr
                                          This is exactly what I am talking about . Can some one load a SD card with the OS and Software I need to do this ? Then sell it to me ? I have tried but do
                                          Message 20 of 25 , Jan 11, 2013
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                                            This is exactly what I am talking about .
                                            Can some one load a SD card with the  OS and Software  I need to do this ?

                                            Then sell it to me ? 
                                             I have tried  but do not understand  Linux  well enough to do it .
                                            I bought a preloaded  SD card with the Linux OS on it but do not  know how to add the SDR software I also need .
                                            I have a USV  3.5 inch floppy drive and I have several  USB memory sticks.
                                            Could the SDR software be  loaded onto  either of them and  then run ?

                                            John

                                            On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:54 PM, Rick Simpson wrote:

                                             

                                            I think what John is talking about as a "SDR dongle" is a DVB-T stick that many people are now using as an inexpensive ($15) wide-band SDR receiver that puts out the SDR I and Q signals on the USB connector. They connect the I and Q signals to a PC sound card and use conventional SDR software on the PC to process and display the signals. I doubt that a Pi has sufficient processing power to emulate the capabilities of a sound card and also run the SDR software necessary to complete the processing and run the display and controls. If such a program could be written for the Pi there would be a huge demand for the SD card with Linux and the SDR program all properly configured for use with the dongle.
                                             
                                            Rick
                                            K3IND
                                             
                                            --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr"
                                            wrote:
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                            > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                            > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                            > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                            >
                                            > jbcundiffjr@...
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                            >
                                            > >
                                            > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > Will WC2L
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                            > > [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                            > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff FrancisT
                                            > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                            > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                            > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                            > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                            > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                            > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                            > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                            > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                            > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > or if you prefer dd:
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                            > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                            > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                            > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                            > >
                                            > > or
                                            > >
                                            > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                            > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                            > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                            > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                            > >
                                            > > or
                                            > >
                                            > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                            > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                            > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                            > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                            > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                            > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                            > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                            > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                            > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                            > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                            > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                            > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                            > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                            > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                            > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                            > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                            > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                            > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                            > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                            > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                            > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                            > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                            > > man dd for help.
                                            > >
                                            > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â
                                            > > > https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                            > >
                                            > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                            > > entire
                                            > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                            > > >
                                            > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                            > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > >
                                            > > > Â
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > ________________________________
                                            > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                            > >
                                            > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                            > >
                                            > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                            > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > >
                                            > > > Â
                                            > > > Will
                                            > > > Â
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                            > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                            > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                            > > of the utility.
                                            > >
                                            > > > Â
                                            > > > Â
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > > Rick
                                            > > >
                                            > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                            > >
                                            > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                            > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                            > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                            > > >
                                            > >
                                            > > > Â
                                            > >
                                            > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                            > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                            > > >
                                            > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                            > > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > --
                                            > > -=jeff=-
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            >

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                                          • John B. Cundiff Jr.
                                            Such programs have been written to run on the Pi and are available free on the internet . QST January edition shows how to do it on a PC. I just do not know
                                            Message 21 of 25 , Jan 11, 2013
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                                              Such programs have been written  to run on the Pi and are available  free on the internet .
                                              QST  January  edition shows how to do it on a PC.

                                              I just do not know how to load them on a  SD card  that I will plug int the Pi.
                                              ...I  see  many  articles describing  how  many others  have already done this ..
                                              .I am not asking anyone to write anything or  create anything that does not 
                                              already exit.   These programs are feee for the Downloading .

                                              I  do not know how to  download it off the internet and install in on the SD card 
                                              with the  Linux OS  that it will run on.
                                              If some one could do this for me  and then sell it to me I wood be glad to pay them for their trouble.
                                              John

                                               
                                               
                                              On 01/11/13, Rick Simpson<goatguy101@...> wrote:
                                               
                                               

                                              I think what John is talking about as a "SDR dongle" is a DVB-T stick that many people are now using as an inexpensive ($15) wide-band SDR receiver that puts out the SDR I and Q signals on the USB connector. They connect the I and Q signals to a PC sound card and use conventional SDR software on the PC to process and display the signals. I doubt that a Pi has sufficient processing power to emulate the capabilities of a sound card and also run the SDR software necessary to complete the processing and run the display and controls. If such a program could be written for the Pi there would be a huge demand for the SD card with Linux and the SDR program all properly configured for use with the dongle.
                                               
                                              Rick
                                              K3IND
                                               
                                              --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Cundiff Jr"
                                              wrote:
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                              > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                              > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                              > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                              >
                                              > jbcundiffjr@...
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                              >
                                              > >
                                              > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Will WC2L
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff FrancisT
                                              > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                              > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                              > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                              > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                              > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                              > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                              > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                              > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > or if you prefer dd:
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                              > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                              > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                              > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                              > >
                                              > > or
                                              > >
                                              > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                              > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                              > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                              > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                              > >
                                              > > or
                                              > >
                                              > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                              > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                              > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                              > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                              > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                              > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                              > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                              > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                              > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                              > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                              > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                              > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                              > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                              > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                              > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                              > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                              > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                              > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                              > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                              > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                              > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                              > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                              > > man dd for help.
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com, Andy B wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â
                                              > > > https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                              > >
                                              > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                              > > entire
                                              > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                              > > >
                                              > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                              > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              > > > Â
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > ________________________________
                                              > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                              > >
                                              > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com"
                                              > >
                                              > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                              > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Will
                                              > > > Â
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                              > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                              > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                              > > of the utility.
                                              > >
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > > Rick
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                              > >
                                              > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                              > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                              > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              > > > Â
                                              > >
                                              > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                              > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                              > > >
                                              > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > --
                                              > > -=jeff=-
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
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                                            • Jim Thisdale
                                              Hi John Do you know which SDR program you need to support your SDR device? Which Linux operating system is on your SDcard? (There is at least 5 different ones
                                              Message 22 of 25 , Jan 11, 2013
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                                                Hi John

                                                Do you know which SDR program you need to support your SDR device?

                                                Which Linux operating system is on your SDcard? (There is at least 5
                                                different ones that I know of)

                                                How do you access your Pi, do you have a monitor,mouse,keyboard
                                                attached, or do you use SSH or VNC to access it?

                                                If a version of the SDR software is available for the Pi/linux then this
                                                should not be all that hard to do, we might even be able to do it remotely.

                                                -Jim-
                                                Visit my Pi running ircddb, dvrptr, Apache2 web-server & other things:
                                                http://n1jmm.no-ip.org
                                                http://n1jmm.no-ip.org/index.php

                                                On 1/11/13 3:02 AM, John B. Cundiff Jr wrote:
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > I already have one of these SD cards with the Linux OS on it ...and it
                                                > workls fine. I can cruise the internet wit it
                                                > BUT . it does not have the software I need to operate the Realtec
                                                > Dongle receiver .
                                                > So I can not run Software Defined Radio programs I do not know how to
                                                > load onto the SD card..
                                                >
                                                > On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
                                                >
                                                >> Farnell ( & CPC) sell programmed SD cards in UK (Premier in US??)
                                                >> these are
                                                >> 4G but if you are going to use this you need to be able to update the OS
                                                >> regularly things are changing all the time. The preprogrammed cards my
                                                >> not
                                                >> be the latest Rasbian though you may be able to update on line once
                                                >> working.
                                                >> Alan
                                                >> G3NYK
                                                >> ----- Original Message -----
                                                >> From: "Andy" oldtech60@... <mailto:oldtech60%40yahoo.com>>
                                                >> To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:19 PM
                                                >> Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                                >>
                                                >> John:
                                                >>
                                                >> Here's a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy
                                                >> image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268
                                                >>
                                                >> Don't believe you can boot from a dongle,maybe some one else knows for
                                                >> sure.
                                                >> You boot from the SD slot built into the Pi.
                                                >>
                                                >> This place has lots of accessories for the Pi. I have no connection to
                                                >> them
                                                >> other than buying from them a few times.
                                                >>
                                                >> Later Andy (AC2HE)
                                                >>
                                                >> --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>, "John B. Cundiff Jr"
                                                >> wrote:
                                                >> >
                                                >> >
                                                >> >
                                                >> >
                                                >> > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                                >> > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                                >> > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                                >> > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                                >> >
                                                >> > jbcundiffjr@...
                                                >> >
                                                >> >
                                                >> >
                                                >> > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                                >> >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > Will WC2L
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                >> > > [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                >> > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff FrancisT
                                                >> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                                >> > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                >> > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                                >> > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                                >> > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                                >> > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                                >> > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your hard
                                                >> > > drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to name the
                                                >> > > image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following command:
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > or if you prefer dd:
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                                >> > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable. Use
                                                >> > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                                >> > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > or
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                                >> > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                                >> > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and sdc),
                                                >> > > you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > or
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                                >> > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                                >> > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the 8gig
                                                >> > > card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done. On the
                                                >> > > other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig card, you can
                                                >> > > cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's no guarantee
                                                >> > > that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the 8gig image that
                                                >> > > the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem. Your system will
                                                >> > > also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device, causing all sorts of
                                                >> > > headaches. The solution here is to mount the source device (for
                                                >> > > example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition, format, and mount the
                                                >> > > destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?", "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/
                                                >> > > sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"). Then you can copy the
                                                >> > > contents with something like rsync ("sudo rsync -av --delete /media/
                                                >> > > deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess the values where the "?"
                                                >> > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                                >> > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in the
                                                >> > > available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync on
                                                >> > > your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv /mnt/
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                                >> > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on the
                                                >> > > flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files in /
                                                >> > > dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                                >> > > man dd for help.
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy B wrote:
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â
                                                >> > > > https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the partition
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                                >> > > entire
                                                >> > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be pursuing
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for storage)
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                                >> > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right partition!:)
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Â
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > > ________________________________
                                                >> > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>"
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                                >> > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Â
                                                >> > > > Will
                                                >> > > > Â
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite it
                                                >> > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                                >> > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the name
                                                >> > > of the utility.
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Â
                                                >> > > > Â
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Rick
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                >> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                                >> > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Â
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image or
                                                >> > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                                >> > > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > > --
                                                >> > > -=jeff=-
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
                                                >> > >
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                                              • Robert Nickels
                                                ... Hi Guys, Not to toss a wet blanket on what I too would love to see happen, but the Pi CPU just doesn t have the processing power to run the DSP code
                                                Message 23 of 25 , Jan 11, 2013
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                                                  On 1/11/2013 8:46 AM, Jim Thisdale wrote:
                                                  > If a version of the SDR software is available for the Pi/linux then this
                                                  > should not be all that hard to do, we might even be able to do it remotely.
                                                  Hi Guys,

                                                  Not to toss a wet blanket on what I too would love to see happen, but
                                                  the Pi CPU just doesn't have the processing power to run the DSP code
                                                  that's needed for a full SDR application. I'm no DSP guru, but this
                                                  comes straight from guys who are. Now you might wonder why this is the
                                                  case since the Pi is capable of playing beautiful HD quality video?
                                                  The answer is, video utilizes the GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) on the
                                                  Pi, which is restricted for other uses by terms of the license agreement
                                                  to help keep the price low. I'm hoping that this will change someday,
                                                  and SDR developers will invest the time and energy needed to utilize the
                                                  GPU for SDR purposes.

                                                  Meanwhile if you search the archives of this list you'll find my posts
                                                  about using the Pi as a "Dongle Server" for a $15 DVB-T stick. I'm
                                                  sitting here listening to MIDCARS on 40 meters by running SDR# software
                                                  on this XP PC which is getting a stream of I/Q samples from my Raspberry
                                                  Pi "dongle server" at the other end of the house.

                                                  This application, which only requires the Pi to receive samples from the
                                                  dongle and re-transmit them at a rate of 1.024 million samples per
                                                  secont via ethernet, takes 30% of the Pi CPU. I control it remotely
                                                  via ssh and putty.

                                                  73, Bob W9RAN
                                                • John B. Cundiff Jr.
                                                  Gentle men I love this idea ...now who can load a SD card with the software I need . I have a Paspberry Pi and a Hackberry pi with the WiFi built in to the
                                                  Message 24 of 25 , Jan 11, 2013
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                                                    Gentle men

                                                    I love this idea ...now who can load a SD card with the software I need .
                                                    I have a Paspberry Pi and a Hackberry pi with the WiFi built in to the card.

                                                    I can hang the Hackberry Pi up in the trees outside ..Solar power it with
                                                    rechargeable batteries.
                                                    ..right at the antenna and connect threw my WiFi network in my house.
                                                    Remotely control it ...
                                                    No sound card no video necessary...is every body happy now...can we do this?
                                                    who will load a SD card with the Linux OS and the SDR software and server
                                                    etc....and sell it to me ?

                                                    John

                                                    -----Original Message-----
                                                    From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                    [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert
                                                    Nickels
                                                    Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:33 AM
                                                    To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??

                                                    On 1/11/2013 8:46 AM, Jim Thisdale wrote:
                                                    > If a version of the SDR software is available for the Pi/linux then
                                                    > this should not be all that hard to do, we might even be able to do it
                                                    remotely.
                                                    Hi Guys,

                                                    Not to toss a wet blanket on what I too would love to see happen, but the Pi
                                                    CPU just doesn't have the processing power to run the DSP code
                                                    that's needed for a full SDR application. I'm no DSP guru, but this
                                                    comes straight from guys who are. Now you might wonder why this is the
                                                    case since the Pi is capable of playing beautiful HD quality video?
                                                    The answer is, video utilizes the GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) on the Pi,
                                                    which is restricted for other uses by terms of the license agreement to help
                                                    keep the price low. I'm hoping that this will change someday, and SDR
                                                    developers will invest the time and energy needed to utilize the GPU for SDR
                                                    purposes.

                                                    Meanwhile if you search the archives of this list you'll find my posts about
                                                    using the Pi as a "Dongle Server" for a $15 DVB-T stick. I'm sitting here
                                                    listening to MIDCARS on 40 meters by running SDR# software on this XP PC
                                                    which is getting a stream of I/Q samples from my Raspberry Pi "dongle
                                                    server" at the other end of the house.

                                                    This application, which only requires the Pi to receive samples from the
                                                    dongle and re-transmit them at a rate of 1.024 million samples per
                                                    secont via ethernet, takes 30% of the Pi CPU. I control it remotely
                                                    via ssh and putty.

                                                    73, Bob W9RAN



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                                                  • John B. Cundiff Jr.
                                                    I have a DVB-T Dongle that contains a Realtek 2832 quadrature decoder chip and a Elonics E4000 Simular Dongles are FUNcube Dongle,SDR-4,LazyDog s
                                                    Message 25 of 25 , Jan 11, 2013
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                                                      I have a DVB-T Dongle that contains a Realtek 2832 quadrature decoder
                                                      chip and a Elonics E4000
                                                      Simular Dongles are FUNcube Dongle,SDR-4,LazyDog's LD-1,SDR-IQ, SDR-14
                                                      RTL2832U / RTLSDR

                                                      SDR.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/RTL-SDR

                                                      sdsrsharp.com

                                                      sdrsharp.com/index.php/downloads

                                                      RTLsdr.org/software

                                                      public-xrp.s3.amazonaws.com/Release-latest.zip

                                                      uk.groups.yahoo.com/groups/SDRSharp/.

                                                      tinyurl.com/blsg2or

                                                      goo.gl/suS2w



                                                      -----Original Message-----
                                                      From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thisdale
                                                      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 6:47 AM
                                                      To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??

                                                      Hi John

                                                      Do you know which SDR program you need to support your SDR device?

                                                      Which Linux operating system is on your SDcard? (There is at least 5
                                                      different ones that I know of)

                                                      How do you access your Pi, do you have a monitor,mouse,keyboard attached, or
                                                      do you use SSH or VNC to access it?

                                                      If a version of the SDR software is available for the Pi/linux then this
                                                      should not be all that hard to do, we might even be able to do it remotely.

                                                      -Jim-
                                                      Visit my Pi running ircddb, dvrptr, Apache2 web-server & other things:
                                                      http://n1jmm.no-ip.org
                                                      http://n1jmm.no-ip.org/index.php

                                                      On 1/11/13 3:02 AM, John B. Cundiff Jr wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > I already have one of these SD cards with the Linux OS on it ...and
                                                      > it workls fine. I can cruise the internet wit it
                                                      > BUT . it does not have the software I need to operate the Realtec
                                                      > Dongle receiver .
                                                      > So I can not run Software Defined Radio programs I do not know how
                                                      > to load onto the SD card..
                                                      >
                                                      > On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      >> Farnell ( & CPC) sell programmed SD cards in UK (Premier in US??)
                                                      >> these are 4G but if you are going to use this you need to be able to
                                                      >> update the OS regularly things are changing all the time. The
                                                      >> preprogrammed cards my not be the latest Rasbian though you may be
                                                      >> able to update on line once working.
                                                      >> Alan
                                                      >> G3NYK
                                                      >> ----- Original Message -----
                                                      >> From: "Andy" oldtech60@... <mailto:oldtech60%40yahoo.com>>
                                                      >> To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>>
                                                      >> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:19 PM
                                                      >> Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                                      >>
                                                      >> John:
                                                      >>
                                                      >> Here's a link to MCM that has 4 gig sd cards with the Raspian Wheezy
                                                      >> image on them. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14268
                                                      >>
                                                      >> Don't believe you can boot from a dongle,maybe some one else knows
                                                      >> for sure.
                                                      >> You boot from the SD slot built into the Pi.
                                                      >>
                                                      >> This place has lots of accessories for the Pi. I have no connection
                                                      >> to them other than buying from them a few times.
                                                      >>
                                                      >> Later Andy (AC2HE)
                                                      >>
                                                      >> --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>, "John B. Cundiff Jr"
                                                      >> wrote:
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> > I wood like to buy a SD card pre loaded with Linux OS and SDR
                                                      >> > programs I can use with a Realtec Dongle .
                                                      >> > that I can use with the Raspberry Pi computer.
                                                      >> > I have been unable to make my own SD cards that will work.
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> > jbcundiffjr@...
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> > On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:48 PM, William Liporace - WC2L wrote:
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > Awesome!! Thank you for the lesson!
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > Will WC2L
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > From: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                      >> > > [mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                      >> > > ] On Behalf Of Jeff FrancisT
                                                      >> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 7:19 PM
                                                      >> > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                      >> > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Re: Copy SD cards??
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > While dd works great, take a minute and install dd_rescue (if
                                                      >> > > you're on a Debian-derived linux, do "sudo apt-get install
                                                      >> > > dd_rescue"). dd_rescue gives you progress updates and time
                                                      >> > > estimates. Functionally, it's the same, it just gives more feedback.
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > To copy an image off of an SD card, you'll need to know which
                                                      >> > > device it is and what you'd like to name the image file on your
                                                      >> > > hard drive. Assume that the SD card is /dev/sdb and you want to
                                                      >> > > name the image file on your hard drive foo.dd. Run the following
                                                      command:
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb foo.dd
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > or if you prefer dd:
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.dd bs=4k
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > After a wait, you'll have an image of your SD card on your hard
                                                      >> > > drive called foo.dd. That file is typically very compressable.
                                                      >> > > Use
                                                      >> > > bzip2 -9 for maximum compression.
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > To write an image onto an SD card, it's very similar. Again,
                                                      >> > > assume sdb and foo.dd:
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > sudo dd_rescue foo.dd /dev/sdb
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > or
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > sudo dd if=foo.dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4k
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > Note that you shouldn't guess what disk device the card is. If
                                                      >> > > you guess wrong (ie, /dev/sda), you'll write the image onto your
                                                      >> > > hard drive rather than your SD card. Errors are dangerous!
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > If you have two SD card readers in your machine (say sdb and
                                                      >> > > sdc), you can copy directly from one card to the other:
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > sudo dd_rescue /dev/sdb /dev/sdc
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > or
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4k
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > This doesn't work for moving data between cards of different
                                                      >> > > sizes. If you dd a 4gig image onto an 8gig, you won't hurt
                                                      >> > > anything, other than you'll only use half of the space on the
                                                      >> > > 8gig card unless/until you expand the filesystem. No harm done.
                                                      >> > > On the other hand, if you try to dd an 8gig image onto a 4gig
                                                      >> > > card, you can cause yourself endless grief. First of all, there's
                                                      >> > > no guarantee that even if there's less than 4gig of data on the
                                                      >> > > 8gig image that the data is at the "bottom" of the filesystem.
                                                      >> > > Your system will also see an 8gig partition on a 4gig device,
                                                      >> > > causing all sorts of headaches. The solution here is to mount the
                                                      >> > > source device (for example, on /media/deadbeef) then partition,
                                                      >> > > format, and mount the destination device ("sudo fdisk /dev/sd?",
                                                      >> > > "sudo mkfs.ext? /dev/ sd?", then "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt").
                                                      >> > > Then you can copy the contents with something like rsync ("sudo
                                                      >> > > rsync -av --delete /media/ deadbeef/ /mnt/"). Again, don't just guess
                                                      the values where the "?"
                                                      >> > > are, you're guaranteed to hork things permanently). Using rsync
                                                      >> > > will work so long as the data from the larger card will fit in
                                                      >> > > the available space on the smaller card. If you don't have rsync
                                                      >> > > on your system, you can do it the way we did it in the old days:
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > cd /media/deadbeef/; find . -depth -print | sudo cpio -pdmuv
                                                      >> > > /mnt/
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > But that's pretty old-school. :D Doing a recursive copy with cp
                                                      >> > > may or may not preserve ownership and permissions, depending on
                                                      >> > > the flags you provide. And it won't copy special files (ie, files
                                                      >> > > in / dev/, /proc/, etc).
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM, John wrote:
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > If you are running Linux use dd:
                                                      >> > > man dd for help.
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > --- In Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy B wrote:
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > > It's Win32diskimager (winimage for short):Â
                                                      >> > > > https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > > You can use "gparted" in another linux box to resize up & down.
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > > However I've noticed so far that even if you shrink the
                                                      >> > > > partition
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > can't get smaller image.   The Winimage makes image of the
                                                      >> > > entire
                                                      >> > > > drive. IE: if it's an 8 gig that's what we get. Will be
                                                      >> > > > pursuing
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > this more as would like to shrink some down again. (for
                                                      >> > > > storage)
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > > " sudo apt-get gparted" or use synaptic package manager.
                                                      >> > > > Must use different machine,& of course get the right
                                                      >> > > > partition!:)
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Â
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Later,Andy (AC2HE)
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > > ________________________________
                                                      >> > > > From: Rick Nicholson
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > To: "Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>"
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 1:51 AM
                                                      >> > > > Subject: Re: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Â
                                                      >> > > > Will
                                                      >> > > > Â
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > If you have a reader writer you can copy the image and rewrite
                                                      >> > > > it
                                                      >> > > onto another card/ If your using Windows you will have to use the
                                                      >> > > imager reference in the RPI beginners guide/ I dont recalll the
                                                      >> > > name of the utility.
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Â
                                                      >> > > > Â
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Rick
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > > From: William Liporace - WC2L
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > To: Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> <mailto:Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                      >> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 9:49 AM
                                                      >> > > > Subject: [Raspberry_Pi_4-Ham_RADIO] Copy SD cards??
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Â
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > > Is there an easy way to copy SD cards?? Do you create an image
                                                      >> > > > or
                                                      >> > > can copy the files from one to another??
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > > > TNX Will WC2L
                                                      >> > > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > >
                                                      >> > > --
                                                      >> > > -=jeff=-
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