## Fwd: [RangeVoting] Re: Kenneth J. Arrow on Utility (Historical investigation of Arrow) II

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utility functions for losing and getting money few mails back):
- lose money => utility = -1000 * amount of dollars
- get money => utility = +1 * amount of dollars
- in B (with A as an alternative choice) there is a possibility to
lose the \$1M, and there is a possibility to get additional \$4M

Juho

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> From: Juho <juho4880@...>
> Date: March 31, 2008 19:11:52 GMT+03:00
> To: RangeVoting@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RangeVoting] Re: Kenneth J. Arrow on Utility
> (Historical investigation of Arrow) II
>
> Ok, my simplest short explanation that could explain the general
> tendency to favour "A>B and D>C" is simply that people hate losing
> money more than they love getting money.
>
> Wouldn't this put the A/B comparison to different position than the
> C/D comparison? In A vs. B there is a risk of losing money that one
> already has available and promised. In C vs. D everything is just
>
> Juho
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:24 , warren_d_smith31 wrote:
>
>> --- In RangeVoting@yahoogroups.com, Juho <juho4880@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I interpret the choice between option A and B so that you already
>>> more or less have the \$1M since you can choose A if you so want.
>>> Choosing B would mean to you to take a risk of losing that \$1M.
>>>
>>> From the Darwinian point of view it makes sense to guarantee that
>>> you will have a pile of nuts in your cave. That will keep you alive
>>> over the winter. Risking those nuts would be stupid. Extra nuts are
>>> not that important if you already have a sufficient pile of nuts.
>>> And
>>> even if you would still need more nuts risking the pile that you
>>> already have (or are about to have) could be fatal (becoming
>>> undernourished during the winter is better than dying during the
>>> winter). I think the Darwinian survival instincts fit nicely in the
>>> framework of giving high value to the certain availability of some
>>> goods.
>>>
>>> Juho
>>
>> --yes, I agree that argument for A>B makes sense.
>> What does not make sense to me is saying A>B and D>C at the same
>> time.
>>
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