RE: [RTB Discussion Group] Two Errors (Heresies) of Hugh Ross/OEC/RTB beliefs
I don't know why I should, in any way, be surprised by your half truths and lies....
As you are well aware, the prevailing view of the greeks was an infinatly old universe, a view that even us poor deluded OECers believe to be false. But then again, when have you ever let the truth stand in your way?
From: Mark [mailto:krinks@...]
Sent: Sun 10/31/2004 18:48
Subject: [RTB Discussion Group] Two Errors (Heresies) of Hugh Ross/OEC/RTB beliefs
Error (Heresy) #1 :
1 Timothy 6:20-21 " O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy
trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of
science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred
concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. "
It just so happens that they idea of the Earth being more than a few
thousand years old was a prevalent belief in Paul's day by the Pagan
Greeks. It is also of note that those who believed such a thing were
rebuked consistently by men of faith in Paul's day on through to the
19th century including the early church that had much to say against
How did something that Paul warned Timothy to avoid because it led
men astray from the gospel become necessary to the proper
understanding on it?
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> I don't know why I should, in any way, be surprised by your halftruths and lies....
>infinatly old universe, a view that even us poor deluded OECers
> As you are well aware, the prevailing view of the greeks was an
believe to be false. But then again, when have you ever let the
truth stand in your way?
>*** Anyone else notice what out the 'great and honest' scholar Kyle
has ignored and refused to answer once again (for the millionth time
maybe)the following ?? Here it is again.....
Error (Heresy) #2:
They (HughRoss, Fuz, Kyle and the boys) say the Days of Creation
were longer than 24 hour literal days. This is impossible and a
Heresy according to the word of God.
God at the end of Creation Week look upon all he had created and said
it is "good" (Genesis 1). We know from other scripture that God's
standard of "good" is absolute perfection. If they Days of Creation
were longer, say 1000 years each, this means that Adam lived, sinned,
was cast out as punishment, and then died all on the same 'day' he
was created. This of course is ridiculous as we know that Death is an
enemy (Romans 8) and also that the whole of Creation is 'groaning in
pain' because of sin. These by definition then are not 'good' and
could not have existed during the 'Days of Creation'. Hence to say
that the 'Days of Creation' are any longer than literal 24 hour days
is a Heresy. The sin of Adam couldn't have taken place until after
Creation Week. This leaves us with no other choice than to say
the 'Days of Creation' were literal days as we know them today,
unless of course you think that Adam was secretly billions of years
Of course this is yet another reason why Kyle is a LYING Heretic. He
has told me on more than one occasion that he believes that
the 'Days of Creation' were literal days. Of course the word of God
proves that either Lyle is a LIAR (this is my belief) or he is
ignorant of the word of God. I choose the later because uses a Hugh
Ross technique. He (like Kyle) uses selective wording to try to
deceive true believers into thinking that he believes in a literal
Genesis and accepts literal days of Creation. They word thier
beliefs in such a way that those of us that accept the Bible as
written are fooled when first talking to them. It is as if they have
to trick true believers into checking out thier beliefs. It was
through such a deception that I first found Reasons to Believe.
Cults and false teachers have to re-word thier beliefs so that
others will be tricked into checking them out. Mormons and Jehovah's
Witnesses are famous for this. It is all part of thr LYING NONSENSE
of Kyle and the boys.