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  • GaryT
    I am just curious as to what this legislation seeks to uncover. Does it appear that the Fed is actually committing fraud in its books? Or is this effort just
    Message 1 of 6 , Aug 20, 2009
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      I am just curious as to what this legislation seeks to uncover.
      Does it appear that the Fed is actually committing fraud in its books? Or is this effort just to undermine the presumptiveness of the Fed, to bring it down a few notches in its superiority?
       
      I guess my question is, is this actually expecting to uncover malfeasance, crime or fraud? or is it just send a message that the Fed better not think itself so high and mighty???
       
      Gary T
       
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      To: rlcny ; LC ; LC ; LC
      Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:16 PM
      Subject: [LCNY-HV] HR 1207/S604 - Audit the Fed

       

      

      The Campaign for Liberty has introduced a new website designed to help the liberty loving activist to
      promote "Audit the Fed".  Its quick links to my Senators and Congressman - John Hall - motivated me to
      write them asking for their support for this legislation!
       
      Frankly, until recently, I felt it was a waste of time to contact my "leftist" representatives, but the Campaign for Liberty has show that it is POSSIBLE, in some cases, to get these folks to do the "right thing".  Now
      these particular companion bills are not radical in any sense, but a few short months ago I did not thing
      that I would see a socialist like Bernie Saunders in the Senate, or Barney Franks-types in the House co-sponsor these bills. For the record, a majority in the House are now on record as co-sponsors, and the list
      of Senators co-sponsors is growing rapidly.
       
      In NYS, the following House members are listed as co-sponsors:
       
      Tim Bishop        (D) -  1st CD
      Peter King         (R) -  3rd CD
      Scott Murphy     (D) - 20th CD
      Paul Tonko        (D) - 21st CD
      Maurice Hinchy  (D) - 22nd CD
      John McHugh     (R) - 23rd CD
      Daniel Maffei      (D) - 25th CD
      Lee Christopher  (R) - 26th CD
      Louise McIntosh (D) - 28th CD
      Eric Massa        (D) - 29th CD
       
      If your Congressman is not listed, I would encourage you to scroll down, and to contact him and your
      Senators to support this legislation, and if they can not do so at this time, ask them what their objection
      is, and demand an answer.  I am happy to report that my new Congressman -- Greg Ball -- will be supporting this legislation in the intermediate future.
       
      Carl
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:38 PM
      Subject: Announcing AuditTheFed. com!

      August 13, 2009


      Dear Friend of Liberty,
       
      As you and I both know, Campaign for Liberty is leading the fight to pass Ron Paul's bill to
      Audit the Fed.  With 282 cosponsors in the House and 23 in the Senate, your efforts have so far proven very successful in establishing large, bipartisan support for Federal Reserve transparency.  We've come a long way in demonstrating to the nation that monetary policy is a critical issue, and every day more and more people are waking up to the harm that the Fed has caused our economy.
       
      But our mission is not yet complete.  There are more Americans to educate, more signatures to collect, and more work to be done to combat the "big guns" that have come out against Ron Paul's Audit the Fed bill.  That's why today I'm proud to announce that we've taken the next step in our efforts by launching
      AuditTheFed. com, a focused, coalition website with one purpose: to push this historic piece of legislation through Congress, past the President's desk, and into law.
       
      AuditTheFed. com includes:
      contact information for your congressman and senators, petitions, widgets, and banners to promote the website, dynamic graphs of the bill's cosponsors, a detailed summary of the Audit the Fed bill, a list of our growing coalition, a blog to keep you up to date on all the latest Audit the Fed news, a sign up for email updates, and social networks to help get the word out online.  This website was designed to put you, the liberty-loving activist, in a position to efficiently and effectively promote Audit the Fed to family, friends, neighbors, and strangers alike.

      This new website is the latest addition to our efforts to Audit the Fed, but it is by no means the culmination.  Stay tuned to CampaignforLiberty. com in the coming days for information on how we plan to mobilize to gain not only more cosponsors for HR 1207 and S 604, but support for a vote in the House and Senate.
       

      For Liberty,


       
      John Tate

      President

      P.S. If you are able, please consider donating to Campaign for Liberty today to help ensure Audit the Fed becomes law and we can finally bring transparency and accountability to one of our country's most secretive institutions.

       

       

      To unsubscribe from future Campaign for Liberty e-mails, click here.
      You were added to our system on October 18, 2008.  For more information,
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    • phil malloy
      I think its safe to say the fed is in fact breaking the law....But than again they do not answer to anybody so what to do? ... I think its safe to say the fed
      Message 2 of 6 , Aug 20, 2009
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        I think its safe to say the fed is in fact breaking the law....But than again they do not answer to anybody so what to do?

        On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:49 AM, GaryT <garyonthenet@...> wrote:
         

        

        I am just curious as to what this legislation seeks to uncover.
        Does it appear that the Fed is actually committing fraud in its books? Or is this effort just to undermine the presumptiveness of the Fed, to bring it down a few notches in its superiority?
         
        I guess my question is, is this actually expecting to uncover malfeasance, crime or fraud? or is it just send a message that the Fed better not think itself so high and mighty???
         
        Gary T
         
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        To: rlcny ; LC ; LC ; LC
        Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:16 PM
        Subject: [LCNY-HV] HR 1207/S604 - Audit the Fed

         

        

        The Campaign for Liberty has introduced a new website designed to help the liberty loving activist to
        promote "Audit the Fed".  Its quick links to my Senators and Congressman - John Hall - motivated me to
        write them asking for their support for this legislation!
         
        Frankly, until recently, I felt it was a waste of time to contact my "leftist" representatives, but the Campaign for Liberty has show that it is POSSIBLE, in some cases, to get these folks to do the "right thing".  Now
        these particular companion bills are not radical in any sense, but a few short months ago I did not thing
        that I would see a socialist like Bernie Saunders in the Senate, or Barney Franks-types in the House co-sponsor these bills. For the record, a majority in the House are now on record as co-sponsors, and the list
        of Senators co-sponsors is growing rapidly.
         
        In NYS, the following House members are listed as co-sponsors:
         
        Tim Bishop        (D) -  1st CD
        Peter King         (R) -  3rd CD
        Scott Murphy     (D) - 20th CD
        Paul Tonko        (D) - 21st CD
        Maurice Hinchy  (D) - 22nd CD
        John McHugh     (R) - 23rd CD
        Daniel Maffei      (D) - 25th CD
        Lee Christopher  (R) - 26th CD
        Louise McIntosh (D) - 28th CD
        Eric Massa        (D) - 29th CD
         
        If your Congressman is not listed, I would encourage you to scroll down, and to contact him and your
        Senators to support this legislation, and if they can not do so at this time, ask them what their objection
        is, and demand an answer.  I am happy to report that my new Congressman -- Greg Ball -- will be supporting this legislation in the intermediate future.
         
        Carl
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:38 PM
        Subject: Announcing AuditTheFed.com!

        August 13, 2009


        Dear Friend of Liberty,
         
        As you and I both know, Campaign for Liberty is leading the fight to pass Ron Paul's bill to
        Audit the Fed.  With 282 cosponsors in the House and 23 in the Senate, your efforts have so far proven very successful in establishing large, bipartisan support for Federal Reserve transparency.  We've come a long way in demonstrating to the nation that monetary policy is a critical issue, and every day more and more people are waking up to the harm that the Fed has caused our economy.
         
        But our mission is not yet complete.  There are more Americans to educate, more signatures to collect, and more work to be done to combat the "big guns" that have come out against Ron Paul's Audit the Fed bill.  That's why today I'm proud to announce that we've taken the next step in our efforts by launching
        AuditTheFed.com, a focused, coalition website with one purpose: to push this historic piece of legislation through Congress, past the President's desk, and into law.
         
        AuditTheFed.com includes:
        contact information for your congressman and senators, petitions, widgets, and banners to promote the website, dynamic graphs of the bill's cosponsors, a detailed summary of the Audit the Fed bill, a list of our growing coalition, a blog to keep you up to date on all the latest Audit the Fed news, a sign up for email updates, and social networks to help get the word out online.  This website was designed to put you, the liberty-loving activist, in a position to efficiently and effectively promote Audit the Fed to family, friends, neighbors, and strangers alike.

        This new website is the latest addition to our efforts to Audit the Fed, but it is by no means the culmination.  Stay tuned to CampaignforLiberty.com in the coming days for information on how we plan to mobilize to gain not only more cosponsors for HR 1207 and S 604, but support for a vote in the House and Senate.
         

        For Liberty,


         
        John Tate

        President

        P.S. If you are able, please consider donating to Campaign for Liberty today to help ensure Audit the Fed becomes law and we can finally bring transparency and accountability to one of our country's most secretive institutions.

         

         

        To unsubscribe from future Campaign for Liberty e-mails, click here.
        You were added to our system on October 18, 2008.  For more information,
        click here.




      • c1svensson
        ... I think its safe to say the fed is in fact breaking the law....But than again they do not answer to anybody so what to do? I would opine that it is not
        Message 3 of 6 , Aug 20, 2009
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          --- In LCNY-HV@yahoogroups.com, phil malloy <pmalloy4391@...> wrote:

          "I think its safe to say the fed is in fact breaking the law....But than again they do not answer to anybody so what to do?"

          I would opine that it is not "safe to say the fed is in fact breaking
          the law". Without proof, this is impossible to prove, and if a proper
          audit proves that it has not, it will undermine your creditability <in my opinion>.

          Carl
        • c1svensson
          ... part: I am just curious as to what this legislation seeks to uncover . I can not quote the legislation, but when I reviewed it sometime ago, it spelled
          Message 4 of 6 , Aug 20, 2009
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            --- In LCNY-HV@yahoogroups.com, "GaryT" <garyonthenet@...> wrote in
            part:

            "I am just curious as to what this legislation seeks to uncover".

            I can not "quote" the legislation, but when I reviewed it sometime ago, it spelled out what it the purpose of the audit.

            "I guess my question is, is this actually expecting to uncover malfeasance, crime or fraud? or is it just send a message that the Fed better not think itself so high and mighty???

            I am "guessing" that Ron Paul does not expect to uncover malfeasance,
            crime or fraud, but I know that its purpose is greater than to just
            send the Fed a "message"

            The purpose is to establish 'transparency' -- who does the Fed lend too, how much, what are the terms, etc. Once the 'facts' of their operation is known, there actions would be subject to review
            and analysis (if only by the 'public').

            Carl
          • phil malloy
            Thank you carl, Sometimes I let my gut get in the way of the proper way to make a difference!
            Message 5 of 6 , Aug 21, 2009
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              Thank you carl, Sometimes I let my gut get in the way of the "proper" way to make a difference!

              On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:50 PM, c1svensson <csvensson@...> wrote:
               

              --- In LCNY-HV@yahoogroups.com, phil malloy <pmalloy4391@...> wrote:

              "I think its safe to say the fed is in fact breaking the law....But than again they do not answer to anybody so what to do?"

              I would opine that it is not "safe to say the fed is in fact breaking
              the law". Without proof, this is impossible to prove, and if a proper
              audit proves that it has not, it will undermine your creditability <in my opinion>.

              Carl


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