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  • michael franks
    Gary, I admire your enthusiasm, but forcing people to have to follow your campaign scenerio and strategy that you see as correct or all will collapse and be
    Message 1 of 30 , Mar 22, 2007
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      Gary, I admire your enthusiasm, but "forcing" people to have to follow your campaign scenerio and strategy that you see as correct or "all will collapse and be over with" is not the right approach my friend.     Why do we need to call each other?  When we are already on board?     In sales training, its called "GO AFTER NEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW PEOPLE"!!!!!

      We are already signed up and in "the choir loft".   if we have to campaign amongst ourselves thats pretty sad to begin with.  

      " phone calls are the only effective way to get support for any candidate"

      Come on Gary, thats just crazy to say that a phone call is the "ONLY WAY" to get support, and the whole campaign hinges upon phone calls. It is just one "tool" in an aresenol of many and is silly to be so extreme in saying that.    Direct mail, media-TV, cable, radio, print adds,  volunteer work door to door, signs, bumperstickers, etc., internet, earned media coverage, etc.    The world or the Ron Paul campaign will not come to an end if YOU do not get our phone numbers of fellow RLC members.  I think the Ron Paul campaign would already have most of us signed up from THEIR end to manage and control.     Again, not to nock your enthusiasm or efforts at all my friend..but chill the heck out a bit and tone it down a few notches of your attacks on anyone that doesnt do it "your way" and lets get back to reality.

      People need to go to work and get things going OUTSIDE of this group.

       

      Main thing is:

      1. Ron needs to snap it together himself and run this like a real campaign and as if he is in it to win and not still "well...will see how it goes". The leader of any group or campaign has to set the tone and make it happen. There is yet to be any full out massive action, why????? ...only Ron can answer that one.

      2. RON needs to put the staff together. PROFESSIONAL campaign staff to run this thing, which has not been done yet at all.    As in SOMEONE with the proper skills to make the proper decisions to run a campaign of this magnitude.   (and Don, Tom Lizzardo is NOT running the campaign...I wish he was and in control of ALL decisions...if so this thing would be in full swing and MASSIVE ACTION right now, which it is not)

      3. After 1 and 2 are met as the FOUNDATION, then we can continue. Ron needs a professional media and PR person.    Then someone in control and in charge of all organization.

      4. Ron needs to focus on New Hampshire and the first few primary states, put an office there and run it up the flagpole.   If he tanks in the first few states.....it wont matter what is done in California, Nevada, Arizona, etc.  it will already be over.

      WEEEE cannot do this for him or "his" campaign. WE can't want this more than he does. WE cant organize or run his campaign and do the things the campaign is not doing for itself.

      We CAN support, and get the word out and on our own do grass roots work, etc.  But all our efforts and all the efforts of everyone are doomed if Ron can't and wont snap it together and run this thing like he means it!!!!!        

      Michael


       


      From: "Gary Coplin-yahoo" <gary_coplin@...>
      Reply-To: RLCHouston@yahoogroups.com
      To: "RLCHouston" <RLCHouston@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
      Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:23:22 -0500
       

      OK due to the fact that the RLC has promised the members that they will not give out phone numbers so we can call everyone to support Ron  Paul. And due to the fact that phone calls are the only effective way to get support for any candidate. Ron Paul will not receive the support he needs from the RLC. Where am I wrong here? GaryC

       

      We as Ron Paul supporters need to start calling all the national and local radio shows and mention our support for Ron as our presidential candidate we need to do this in mass and do it now and the pundits will have no choice but to hear our voice. They said we couldn�t win in 1996 what a ride and we proved them wrong. After you do that, please post into the yahoo group of your choice the station call letters, station URL, city, station host, and the time of your call. Then other folks can call that same station on behalf of Ron Paul. Regards GaryC

       


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    • Dave Nalle
      Why can t we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make phonecalls for them? If they re a serious campaign they ought to be able to figure out
      Message 2 of 30 , Mar 22, 2007
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        Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
        phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
        able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?

        Dave
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      • Gary
        Phone calls are less expensive then any other means to get out the word. Also they are the most effective way to get out the message. GaryC
        Message 3 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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          Phone calls are less expensive then any other means to get out the
          word. Also they are the most effective way to get out the message. GaryC
        • DGHarrison
          Phone calls are less expensive then any other means to get out the word. Also they are the most effective way to get out the message. -- GaryC That may be
          Message 4 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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            Phone calls are less expensive then any other means to get out the word. Also they are the most effective way to get out the message. -- GaryC

            That may be true, but as an individual, I much prefer to have some good printed material to read. I hate being bothered by phone calls. One thing I particularly hate is an anonymous caller who asks leading questions that set me up for the kill. You get a guy on the phone that frames the issue like some sort of prosecuting attorney, only asking the questions he knows you'll answer the way he wants you to answer. You're never sure where you're being led until he finally corners you with something, and then he pops the water balloon on you.

            And when I say "good printed material" I mean something that doesn't look like a ransom note. The GOP is horrible about sending out push mail with every other sentence presented in a different font. You get italics, followed by regular text, followed by bold text, followed by underlined sentences, followed by large text, followed by different colored text, followed by ..., well, you get the picture. It's down right disgusting.

            I tried to read a letter from the GOP once and just couldn't force myself through it. I wrote to the GOP to demand that they stop doing that, but I never got a response. For a while, I'd open those GOP fundraiser letters and issue pushers to see if they had stopped with the ransom note effect. Alas, they never did. Now I just toss it all in the garbage, unopened, unread, waste of my time, waste of their money.

            Good printed material needs to be well organized and easy to read. It must not use weird fonts, but should use a serif font (like Times or Times New Roman) for the body text, and if  a second font is used (like the sans serif Arial), it should only be used for headlines, subheads, captions, etc. Keep it simple. Keep it clean.

            As for telephone calls, I let my answering machine screen the calls. Usually, all I get is a click, because whoever is calling doesn't want to leave a message. Some enterprising organizations, however, are starting to leave messages on people's machines. There are two types of messages: good ones and bad ones. The good ones are short, just identifying the caller and a leaving a way for the called to get more information on his own, like a web site to visit. The bad ones are the ones that leave the entire spiel on the machine, eating up the entire memory so no other callers can leave a message. People who leave bad messages get on my hate list.

            If anyone is going to make phone calls or distribute literature, I do hope they will not make the mistakes I've mentioned above. Perhaps it would be good to go to Chuck Muth's http://www.campaigndoctor.com/ for some good tips.

            Doug Harrison
            Minnesota


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          • michael franks
            No, thats what should happen, but is not. They are not set up to run a presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or infrastructure in
            Message 5 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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              No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to run a
              presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
              infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to contact them
              to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
              understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone call
              today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some things,
              all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint to Kent
              right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a total
              lack of organization in place or people in place to organize everyone. I
              got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the begining
              stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be run and
              put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as if the
              excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
              organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if they are
              in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
              campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media people, pr
              people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show, PROFESSIONAL
              seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a plan in
              place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign activity?
              WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
              heirarchy in place?

              I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using some of
              my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I could
              get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign? no...so will
              all have to be done on my own apparantely.

              So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not have the
              resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right now in
              any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all. As
              mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE, with
              that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.

              Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark Elam?
              Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
              "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole right now?
              What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing up at
              things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
              sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?

              He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right now he
              needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is credible to
              "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?

              My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their slogan?
              Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want fiscial
              restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
              cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website of Ron in
              his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front page of
              what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and redo
              some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
              aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)

              I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their strategy?
              When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do that could
              have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER behind him
              or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen simple state
              rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than this is.
              He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put together a good
              campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?

              I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library, using old
              quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown up..and
              Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.

              WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who has a
              "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do NOT have
              this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
              "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!

              He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done that. and
              thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind it.
              Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.

              (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT is this
              to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
              strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now

              Michael
              Texas CD#14
              A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
              Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
              Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
              Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
              Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and materials for
              the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004, www.bushcheneysigns.com
              Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas Marriage
              Amendment www.vote4marriage.com

              Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign? Im hardly
              some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste their
              time....


              >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
              >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
              >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
              >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
              >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500

              >
              >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
              >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
              >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
              >
              >Dave
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            • rlcmcallen
              Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
              Message 6 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                quantities out and make some money.

                As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                >
                > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                run a
                > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                contact them
                > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                call
                > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                things,
                > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                to Kent
                > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                total
                > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                everyone. I
                > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                begining
                > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                run and
                > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                if the
                > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                they are
                > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                people, pr
                > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                PROFESSIONAL
                > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                plan in
                > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                activity?
                > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                > heirarchy in place?
                >
                > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                some of
                > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                could
                > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                no...so will
                > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                >
                > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                have the
                > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                now in
                > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                As
                > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                with
                > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                >
                > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                Elam?
                > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                right now?
                > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                up at
                > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                >
                > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                now he
                > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                credible to
                > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                >
                > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                slogan?
                > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                fiscial
                > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                of Ron in
                > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                page of
                > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                redo
                > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                >
                > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                strategy?
                > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                that could
                > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                behind him
                > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                simple state
                > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                this is.
                > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                together a good
                > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                >
                > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                using old
                > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                up..and
                > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                >
                > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                has a
                > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                NOT have
                > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                >
                > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                that. and
                > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                it.
                > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                >
                > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                is this
                > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                >
                > Michael
                > Texas CD#14
                > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                materials for
                > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                www.bushcheneysigns.com
                > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                Marriage
                > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                >
                > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                Im hardly
                > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                their
                > time....
                >
                >
                > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                >
                > >
                > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                > >
                > >Dave
                > >--
                > >
                > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                >
              • rlcmcallen
                Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                Message 7 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                  Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                  Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                  stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                  stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                  quantities out and make some money.

                  As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                  sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                  --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                  <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                  run a
                  > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                  > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                  contact them
                  > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                  > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                  call
                  > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                  things,
                  > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                  to Kent
                  > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                  total
                  > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                  everyone. I
                  > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                  begining
                  > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                  run and
                  > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                  if the
                  > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                  > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                  they are
                  > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                  > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                  people, pr
                  > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                  PROFESSIONAL
                  > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                  plan in
                  > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                  activity?
                  > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                  > heirarchy in place?
                  >
                  > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                  some of
                  > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                  could
                  > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                  no...so will
                  > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                  >
                  > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                  have the
                  > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                  now in
                  > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                  As
                  > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                  with
                  > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                  >
                  > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                  Elam?
                  > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                  > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                  right now?
                  > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                  up at
                  > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                  > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                  >
                  > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                  now he
                  > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                  credible to
                  > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                  >
                  > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                  slogan?
                  > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                  fiscial
                  > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                  > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                  of Ron in
                  > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                  page of
                  > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                  redo
                  > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                  > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                  >
                  > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                  strategy?
                  > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                  that could
                  > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                  behind him
                  > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                  simple state
                  > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                  this is.
                  > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                  together a good
                  > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                  >
                  > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                  using old
                  > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                  up..and
                  > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                  >
                  > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                  has a
                  > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                  NOT have
                  > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                  > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                  >
                  > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                  that. and
                  > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                  it.
                  > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                  >
                  > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                  is this
                  > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                  > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                  >
                  > Michael
                  > Texas CD#14
                  > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                  > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                  > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                  > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                  > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                  materials for
                  > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                  www.bushcheneysigns.com
                  > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                  Marriage
                  > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                  >
                  > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                  Im hardly
                  > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                  their
                  > time....
                  >
                  >
                  > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                  > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                  > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                  > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                  > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                  >
                  > >
                  > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                  > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                  > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                  > >
                  > >Dave
                  > >--
                  > >
                  > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                  > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                  > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                  >
                • rlcmcallen
                  Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                  Message 8 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                    Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                    Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                    stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                    stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                    quantities out and make some money.

                    As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                    sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                    --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                    <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                    run a
                    > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                    > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                    contact them
                    > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                    > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                    call
                    > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                    things,
                    > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                    to Kent
                    > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                    total
                    > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                    everyone. I
                    > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                    begining
                    > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                    run and
                    > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                    if the
                    > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                    > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                    they are
                    > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                    > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                    people, pr
                    > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                    PROFESSIONAL
                    > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                    plan in
                    > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                    activity?
                    > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                    > heirarchy in place?
                    >
                    > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                    some of
                    > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                    could
                    > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                    no...so will
                    > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                    >
                    > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                    have the
                    > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                    now in
                    > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                    As
                    > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                    with
                    > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                    >
                    > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                    Elam?
                    > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                    > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                    right now?
                    > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                    up at
                    > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                    > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                    >
                    > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                    now he
                    > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                    credible to
                    > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                    >
                    > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                    slogan?
                    > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                    fiscial
                    > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                    > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                    of Ron in
                    > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                    page of
                    > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                    redo
                    > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                    > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                    >
                    > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                    strategy?
                    > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                    that could
                    > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                    behind him
                    > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                    simple state
                    > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                    this is.
                    > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                    together a good
                    > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                    >
                    > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                    using old
                    > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                    up..and
                    > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                    >
                    > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                    has a
                    > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                    NOT have
                    > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                    > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                    >
                    > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                    that. and
                    > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                    it.
                    > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                    >
                    > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                    is this
                    > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                    > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                    >
                    > Michael
                    > Texas CD#14
                    > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                    > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                    > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                    > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                    > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                    materials for
                    > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                    www.bushcheneysigns.com
                    > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                    Marriage
                    > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                    >
                    > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                    Im hardly
                    > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                    their
                    > time....
                    >
                    >
                    > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                    > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                    > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                    > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                    > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                    >
                    > >
                    > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                    > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                    > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                    > >
                    > >Dave
                    > >--
                    > >
                    > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                    > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                    > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                    >
                  • rlcmcallen
                    Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                    Message 9 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                      Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                      Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                      stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                      stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                      quantities out and make some money.

                      As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                      sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                      --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                      <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                      run a
                      > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                      > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                      contact them
                      > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                      > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                      call
                      > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                      things,
                      > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                      to Kent
                      > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                      total
                      > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                      everyone. I
                      > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                      begining
                      > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                      run and
                      > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                      if the
                      > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                      > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                      they are
                      > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                      > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                      people, pr
                      > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                      PROFESSIONAL
                      > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                      plan in
                      > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                      activity?
                      > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                      > heirarchy in place?
                      >
                      > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                      some of
                      > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                      could
                      > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                      no...so will
                      > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                      >
                      > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                      have the
                      > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                      now in
                      > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                      As
                      > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                      with
                      > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                      >
                      > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                      Elam?
                      > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                      > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                      right now?
                      > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                      up at
                      > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                      > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                      >
                      > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                      now he
                      > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                      credible to
                      > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                      >
                      > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                      slogan?
                      > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                      fiscial
                      > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                      > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                      of Ron in
                      > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                      page of
                      > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                      redo
                      > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                      > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                      >
                      > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                      strategy?
                      > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                      that could
                      > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                      behind him
                      > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                      simple state
                      > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                      this is.
                      > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                      together a good
                      > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                      >
                      > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                      using old
                      > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                      up..and
                      > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                      >
                      > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                      has a
                      > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                      NOT have
                      > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                      > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                      >
                      > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                      that. and
                      > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                      it.
                      > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                      >
                      > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                      is this
                      > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                      > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                      >
                      > Michael
                      > Texas CD#14
                      > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                      > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                      > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                      > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                      > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                      materials for
                      > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                      www.bushcheneysigns.com
                      > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                      Marriage
                      > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                      >
                      > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                      Im hardly
                      > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                      their
                      > time....
                      >
                      >
                      > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                      > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                      > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                      > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                      > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                      >
                      > >
                      > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                      > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                      > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                      > >
                      > >Dave
                      > >--
                      > >
                      > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                      > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                      > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                      >
                    • rlcmcallen
                      Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                      Message 10 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                        Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                        Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                        stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                        stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                        quantities out and make some money.

                        As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                        sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                        --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                        <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                        run a
                        > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                        > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                        contact them
                        > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                        > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                        call
                        > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                        things,
                        > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                        to Kent
                        > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                        total
                        > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                        everyone. I
                        > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                        begining
                        > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                        run and
                        > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                        if the
                        > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                        > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                        they are
                        > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                        > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                        people, pr
                        > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                        PROFESSIONAL
                        > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                        plan in
                        > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                        activity?
                        > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                        > heirarchy in place?
                        >
                        > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                        some of
                        > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                        could
                        > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                        no...so will
                        > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                        >
                        > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                        have the
                        > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                        now in
                        > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                        As
                        > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                        with
                        > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                        >
                        > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                        Elam?
                        > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                        > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                        right now?
                        > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                        up at
                        > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                        > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                        >
                        > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                        now he
                        > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                        credible to
                        > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                        >
                        > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                        slogan?
                        > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                        fiscial
                        > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                        > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                        of Ron in
                        > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                        page of
                        > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                        redo
                        > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                        > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                        >
                        > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                        strategy?
                        > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                        that could
                        > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                        behind him
                        > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                        simple state
                        > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                        this is.
                        > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                        together a good
                        > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                        >
                        > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                        using old
                        > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                        up..and
                        > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                        >
                        > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                        has a
                        > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                        NOT have
                        > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                        > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                        >
                        > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                        that. and
                        > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                        it.
                        > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                        >
                        > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                        is this
                        > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                        > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                        >
                        > Michael
                        > Texas CD#14
                        > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                        > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                        > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                        > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                        > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                        materials for
                        > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                        www.bushcheneysigns.com
                        > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                        Marriage
                        > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                        >
                        > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                        Im hardly
                        > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                        their
                        > time....
                        >
                        >
                        > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                        > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                        > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                        > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                        > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                        >
                        > >
                        > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                        > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                        > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                        > >
                        > >Dave
                        > >--
                        > >
                        > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                        > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                        > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                        >
                      • rlcmcallen
                        Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
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                          Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                          Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                          stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                          stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                          quantities out and make some money.

                          As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                          sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                          --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                          <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                          run a
                          > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                          > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                          contact them
                          > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                          > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                          call
                          > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                          things,
                          > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                          to Kent
                          > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                          total
                          > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                          everyone. I
                          > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                          begining
                          > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                          run and
                          > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                          if the
                          > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                          > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                          they are
                          > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                          > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                          people, pr
                          > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                          PROFESSIONAL
                          > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                          plan in
                          > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                          activity?
                          > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                          > heirarchy in place?
                          >
                          > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                          some of
                          > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                          could
                          > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                          no...so will
                          > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                          >
                          > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                          have the
                          > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                          now in
                          > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                          As
                          > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                          with
                          > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                          >
                          > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                          Elam?
                          > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                          > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                          right now?
                          > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                          up at
                          > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                          > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                          >
                          > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                          now he
                          > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                          credible to
                          > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                          >
                          > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                          slogan?
                          > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                          fiscial
                          > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                          > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                          of Ron in
                          > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                          page of
                          > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                          redo
                          > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                          > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                          >
                          > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                          strategy?
                          > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                          that could
                          > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                          behind him
                          > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                          simple state
                          > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                          this is.
                          > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                          together a good
                          > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                          >
                          > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                          using old
                          > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                          up..and
                          > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                          >
                          > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                          has a
                          > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                          NOT have
                          > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                          > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                          >
                          > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                          that. and
                          > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                          it.
                          > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                          >
                          > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                          is this
                          > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                          > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                          >
                          > Michael
                          > Texas CD#14
                          > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                          > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                          > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                          > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                          > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                          materials for
                          > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                          www.bushcheneysigns.com
                          > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                          Marriage
                          > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                          >
                          > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                          Im hardly
                          > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                          their
                          > time....
                          >
                          >
                          > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                          > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                          > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                          > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                          > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                          >
                          > >
                          > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                          > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                          > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                          > >
                          > >Dave
                          > >--
                          > >
                          > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                          > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                          > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                          >
                        • rlcmcallen
                          Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                          Message 12 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                            Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                            Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                            stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                            stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                            quantities out and make some money.

                            As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                            sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                            --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                            <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                            run a
                            > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                            > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                            contact them
                            > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                            > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                            call
                            > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                            things,
                            > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                            to Kent
                            > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                            total
                            > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                            everyone. I
                            > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                            begining
                            > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                            run and
                            > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                            if the
                            > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                            > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                            they are
                            > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                            > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                            people, pr
                            > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                            PROFESSIONAL
                            > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                            plan in
                            > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                            activity?
                            > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                            > heirarchy in place?
                            >
                            > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                            some of
                            > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                            could
                            > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                            no...so will
                            > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                            >
                            > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                            have the
                            > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                            now in
                            > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                            As
                            > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                            with
                            > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                            >
                            > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                            Elam?
                            > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                            > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                            right now?
                            > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                            up at
                            > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                            > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                            >
                            > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                            now he
                            > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                            credible to
                            > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                            >
                            > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                            slogan?
                            > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                            fiscial
                            > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                            > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                            of Ron in
                            > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                            page of
                            > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                            redo
                            > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                            > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                            >
                            > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                            strategy?
                            > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                            that could
                            > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                            behind him
                            > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                            simple state
                            > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                            this is.
                            > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                            together a good
                            > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                            >
                            > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                            using old
                            > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                            up..and
                            > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                            >
                            > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                            has a
                            > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                            NOT have
                            > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                            > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                            >
                            > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                            that. and
                            > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                            it.
                            > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                            >
                            > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                            is this
                            > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                            > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                            >
                            > Michael
                            > Texas CD#14
                            > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                            > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                            > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                            > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                            > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                            materials for
                            > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                            www.bushcheneysigns.com
                            > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                            Marriage
                            > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                            >
                            > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                            Im hardly
                            > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                            their
                            > time....
                            >
                            >
                            > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                            > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                            > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                            > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                            > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                            >
                            > >
                            > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                            > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                            > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                            > >
                            > >Dave
                            > >--
                            > >
                            > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                            > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                            > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                            >
                          • rlcmcallen
                            Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                            Message 13 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                              Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                              Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                              stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                              stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                              quantities out and make some money.

                              As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                              sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                              --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                              <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                              run a
                              > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                              > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                              contact them
                              > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                              > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                              call
                              > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                              things,
                              > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                              to Kent
                              > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                              total
                              > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                              everyone. I
                              > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                              begining
                              > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                              run and
                              > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                              if the
                              > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                              > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                              they are
                              > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                              > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                              people, pr
                              > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                              PROFESSIONAL
                              > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                              plan in
                              > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                              activity?
                              > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                              > heirarchy in place?
                              >
                              > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                              some of
                              > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                              could
                              > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                              no...so will
                              > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                              >
                              > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                              have the
                              > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                              now in
                              > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                              As
                              > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                              with
                              > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                              >
                              > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                              Elam?
                              > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                              > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                              right now?
                              > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                              up at
                              > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                              > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                              >
                              > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                              now he
                              > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                              credible to
                              > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                              >
                              > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                              slogan?
                              > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                              fiscial
                              > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                              > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                              of Ron in
                              > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                              page of
                              > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                              redo
                              > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                              > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                              >
                              > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                              strategy?
                              > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                              that could
                              > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                              behind him
                              > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                              simple state
                              > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                              this is.
                              > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                              together a good
                              > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                              >
                              > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                              using old
                              > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                              up..and
                              > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                              >
                              > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                              has a
                              > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                              NOT have
                              > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                              > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                              >
                              > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                              that. and
                              > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                              it.
                              > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                              >
                              > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                              is this
                              > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                              > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                              >
                              > Michael
                              > Texas CD#14
                              > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                              > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                              > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                              > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                              > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                              materials for
                              > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                              www.bushcheneysigns.com
                              > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                              Marriage
                              > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                              >
                              > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                              Im hardly
                              > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                              their
                              > time....
                              >
                              >
                              > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                              > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                              > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                              > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                              > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                              >
                              > >
                              > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                              > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                              > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                              > >
                              > >Dave
                              > >--
                              > >
                              > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                              > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                              > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                              >
                            • rlcmcallen
                              Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                              Message 14 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                                Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                                Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                                stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                                stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                                quantities out and make some money.

                                As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                                sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                                --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                                <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                                run a
                                > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                                > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                                contact them
                                > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                                > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                                call
                                > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                                things,
                                > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                                to Kent
                                > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                                total
                                > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                                everyone. I
                                > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                                begining
                                > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                                run and
                                > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                                if the
                                > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                                > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                                they are
                                > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                                > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                                people, pr
                                > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                                PROFESSIONAL
                                > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                                plan in
                                > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                                activity?
                                > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                                > heirarchy in place?
                                >
                                > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                                some of
                                > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                                could
                                > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                                no...so will
                                > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                                >
                                > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                                have the
                                > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                                now in
                                > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                                As
                                > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                                with
                                > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                                >
                                > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                                Elam?
                                > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                                > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                                right now?
                                > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                                up at
                                > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                                > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                                >
                                > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                                now he
                                > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                                credible to
                                > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                                >
                                > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                                slogan?
                                > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                                fiscial
                                > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                                > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                                of Ron in
                                > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                                page of
                                > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                                redo
                                > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                                > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                                >
                                > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                                strategy?
                                > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                                that could
                                > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                                behind him
                                > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                                simple state
                                > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                                this is.
                                > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                                together a good
                                > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                                >
                                > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                                using old
                                > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                                up..and
                                > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                                >
                                > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                                has a
                                > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                                NOT have
                                > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                                > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                                >
                                > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                                that. and
                                > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                                it.
                                > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                                >
                                > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                                is this
                                > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                                > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                                >
                                > Michael
                                > Texas CD#14
                                > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                                > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                                > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                                > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                                > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                                materials for
                                > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                                www.bushcheneysigns.com
                                > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                                Marriage
                                > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                                >
                                > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                                Im hardly
                                > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                                their
                                > time....
                                >
                                >
                                > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                                > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                                >
                                > >
                                > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                                > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                                > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                                > >
                                > >Dave
                                > >--
                                > >
                                > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                                > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                                > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                                >
                              • rlcmcallen
                                Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael. Why don t you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper stickers too.
                                Message 15 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                                  Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                                  Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                                  stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                                  stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                                  quantities out and make some money.

                                  As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                                  sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?



                                  --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "michael franks"
                                  <michaelafranks@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                                  run a
                                  > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                                  > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                                  contact them
                                  > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                                  > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                                  call
                                  > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                                  things,
                                  > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                                  to Kent
                                  > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                                  total
                                  > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                                  everyone. I
                                  > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                                  begining
                                  > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                                  run and
                                  > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                                  if the
                                  > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                                  > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                                  they are
                                  > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                                  > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                                  people, pr
                                  > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                                  PROFESSIONAL
                                  > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                                  plan in
                                  > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                                  activity?
                                  > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                                  > heirarchy in place?
                                  >
                                  > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                                  some of
                                  > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                                  could
                                  > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                                  no...so will
                                  > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                                  >
                                  > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                                  have the
                                  > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                                  now in
                                  > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                                  As
                                  > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                                  with
                                  > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                                  >
                                  > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                                  Elam?
                                  > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                                  > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                                  right now?
                                  > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                                  up at
                                  > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                                  > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                                  >
                                  > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                                  now he
                                  > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                                  credible to
                                  > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                                  >
                                  > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                                  slogan?
                                  > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                                  fiscial
                                  > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                                  > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                                  of Ron in
                                  > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                                  page of
                                  > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                                  redo
                                  > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                                  > aspects are down, but still for refernece.... www.michaelfranks.org)
                                  >
                                  > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck..what even IS their
                                  strategy?
                                  > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                                  that could
                                  > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                                  behind him
                                  > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                                  simple state
                                  > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                                  this is.
                                  > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                                  together a good
                                  > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                                  >
                                  > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                                  using old
                                  > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                                  up..and
                                  > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                                  >
                                  > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                                  has a
                                  > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                                  NOT have
                                  > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                                  > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                                  >
                                  > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                                  that. and
                                  > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                                  it.
                                  > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                                  >
                                  > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                                  is this
                                  > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                                  > strategy....and are missing HUGE things right now
                                  >
                                  > Michael
                                  > Texas CD#14
                                  > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                                  > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                                  > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                                  > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks.org
                                  > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                                  materials for
                                  > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                                  www.bushcheneysigns.com
                                  > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                                  Marriage
                                  > Amendment www.vote4marriage.com
                                  >
                                  > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                                  Im hardly
                                  > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                                  their
                                  > time....
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                                  > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                  > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                  > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                  > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                                  >
                                  > >
                                  > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                                  > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                                  > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                                  > >
                                  > >Dave
                                  > >--
                                  > >
                                  > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                                  > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                                  > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                                  >
                                • Dave Nalle
                                  Well put, Michael. My little wide-eyed comment was designed to subtly point out exactly what you went into so much detail on. If they aren t at the point as a
                                  Message 16 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                                    Well put, Michael. My little wide-eyed comment was designed to
                                    subtly point out exactly what you
                                    went into so much detail on.

                                    If they aren't at the point as a campaign where they can do such
                                    basic things as organize their
                                    own phonebank, they may not be a great place for us to invest our
                                    personal efforts or our support as an organization.

                                    Dave
                                    --

                                    Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraft.com
                                    Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarokpress.com
                                    Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                                  • michael franks
                                    Yes John, I already have things in the works and have for a while. Getting ANYONE at his campaign to reply or respond would take an act of God i think.
                                    Message 17 of 30 , Mar 23, 2007
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                                      Yes John,  I already have things in the works and have for a while.   Getting ANYONE at his campaign to reply or respond would take an act of God i think.     Frustrated is putting it mildly and im not the only one.  People much more "connected" than I am are just as frustrated if not more and are backing away...cause they dont want to be apart of something not being run right.    There is other things I would say..but wont put in an email to post to everyone.   But just because Ron is great on the issues John...doesn't mean he has the best decisions in staff or knowing who to hire or not ;)     This is a notorious issue for those close here in cd14.    Ron, on a personal level has this very "sheepish" personality when it comes to being agressive.    When giving a speach he is ok and good on issues..but making campaign decisions he has always relied upon those around him to just do things that he is oblivious to.   That's about all i will say.

                                      I dont want anyone to be discouraged.  He needs a professional campaign staff...its not there right now at all and everyone close to things knows it.   Even those not close to things, but who have been around serious campaigns and are "seasoned" campaigners see's it too.      Ron does have his flaws too John.   

                                      Michael


                                      From: "rlcmcallen" <pankratz@...>
                                      Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                      To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                      Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:24:42 -0000
                                       

                                      Whatsamatta? Sign business a little slow? You sound frustrated Michael.

                                      Why don't you make up some cool Ron Paul signs and sell them. Bumper
                                      stickers too. Others are getting outragous prices for these on web
                                      stores. Surely you could sell them for much less and actually get
                                      quantities out and make some money.

                                      As far as the campaign goes, I really don't think Ron is less
                                      sophisticated about that than either you or I are, do you?

                                      --- In RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com, "michael franks"
                                      <michaelafranks@ ...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > No, thats what "should" happen, but is not. They are not set up to
                                      run a
                                      > presidential level race right now and do not near have the staff or
                                      > infrastructure in place at all. I have tried a few times to
                                      contact them
                                      > to no avail. I do not understand their lack of concern or even
                                      > understanding that they are not where they need to be. In my phone
                                      call
                                      > today, when I called to get through to Kent or to talk about some
                                      things,
                                      > all I got in response was "so, your calling to voice your complaint
                                      to Kent
                                      > right"? i said no, im calling to talk to Kent and that there is a
                                      total
                                      > lack of organization in place or people in place to organize
                                      everyone. I
                                      > got in response to that "Well, Ron just announced so we are in the
                                      begining
                                      > stages." again...totally CLUELESS of how a campaign needs to be
                                      run and
                                      > put together, and clueless that they are not where the need to be as
                                      if the
                                      > excuse of "well, he just announced" covers the failure of any real
                                      > organization. They brush it off as not being a big deal.....as if
                                      they are
                                      > in denial or something, clueless of seeing it. I have seen state rep
                                      > campaigns in more full out massive action right now. With media
                                      people, pr
                                      > people, PROFESSIONAL consultants managing and running the show,
                                      PROFESSIONAL
                                      > seasoned campaign warriors putting together strategy, with ALREADY a
                                      plan in
                                      > place for campaign organization etc. Who is in charge of campaign
                                      activity?
                                      > WHERE are the campaign coordinators or any "skeleton" of a volunteer
                                      > heirarchy in place?
                                      >
                                      > I, on my own can and will anyway organize a NATIONWIDE effort using
                                      some of
                                      > my skills and expertise in some areas that Im good at. You think I
                                      could
                                      > get a call or to talk with anyone to do it with the campaign?
                                      no...so will
                                      > all have to be done on my own apparantely.
                                      >
                                      > So Dave, they dont have a clue what they are doing yet, and do not
                                      have the
                                      > resemblence of a campaign staff to even tell anyone what to do right
                                      now in
                                      > any REAL form or fashion. I have never seen anything like it at all.
                                      As
                                      > mentioned, ive seen MANY state REP races more organized, AGRESSIVE,
                                      with
                                      > that "eye of the tiger" critical time is of the essence type attitude.
                                      >
                                      > Questions to ask, Where is Ron's long time and main consultant, Mark
                                      Elam?
                                      > Where and why isn't Ron's chief of Staff Tom Lizzardo, with WORLDS of
                                      > "campaign" experience in charge and running this up the flag pole
                                      right now?
                                      > What is Ron doing, and what is he waiting on? He is showing
                                      up at
                                      > things sure, but where is his enterouge? Does he even have a banner or
                                      > sign? Where was their "big apperance" at the CPAC thing?
                                      >
                                      > He MUST get a professional campaign person running the show. Right
                                      now he
                                      > needs NAME ID and MEDIA/PR coverage. WHO is doing that that is
                                      credible to
                                      > "KNOW" what to do and who can "make it happen?
                                      >
                                      > My gosh...WHY wont they use the "Taxpayers best friend" as their
                                      slogan?
                                      > Something that DEFINES Ron and will "market" to the masses that want
                                      fiscial
                                      > restraint and for SOMEONE to "watch their $$" "Hope for America" is
                                      > cheesy and namby pamby. The old pic on the front of the website
                                      of Ron in
                                      > his military unifrom is nice..but hardly what you want on the front
                                      page of
                                      > what the heck your candidate even looks like!!!! Id change it and
                                      redo
                                      > some things. My website was done in ONE WEEK, not over a MONTH (some
                                      > aspects are down, but still for refernece... . www.michaelfranks. org)
                                      >
                                      > I would change the strategy..in fact...heck. .what even IS their
                                      strategy?
                                      > When Ron announced..where was the fan fare? What did they do
                                      that could
                                      > have gotten media attention? Did he even have a SIGN or BANNER
                                      behind him
                                      > or his "logo" whatever that even is? Again..my GOSH ive seen
                                      simple state
                                      > rep campaigns more ready to go and "together" and "with it" than
                                      this is.
                                      > He is running to LEAD THIS NATION!!!! IF he cant even put
                                      together a good
                                      > campaign staff, how can he lead the nation?
                                      >
                                      > I would have had him do his announcement from the Reagan library,
                                      using old
                                      > quotes FROM Reagan himself and HUGE old pics of Ron and Reagan blown
                                      up..and
                                      > Ron CLAIM the "Reagan legacy" in this race.
                                      >
                                      > WHAT THE HELL ARE YALL GUYS DOING RON?!!!!!!! Get someone in who
                                      has a
                                      > "nack" for marketing, promotion, pr, and campaign strategy. You do
                                      NOT have
                                      > this now. SNAP it together, realize this, and get someone in who can
                                      > "create" and his a "mind" for this and lets go man!!!
                                      >
                                      > He would have had NATIONAL attention and coverage had they done
                                      that. and
                                      > thats just one thing off the top of my head with LITTLE thot behind
                                      it.
                                      > Good lord....put ME in control of "strategy" and we'd be further along.
                                      >
                                      > (now watch them take some of my ideas now..hahaha) How DIFFICULT
                                      is this
                                      > to know how to "pitch" Ron? they are clueless with no real
                                      > strategy.... and are missing HUGE things right now
                                      >
                                      > Michael
                                      > Texas CD#14
                                      > A former Campaign Chairman Ron Paul
                                      > Former Surrogate speaker for Ron Paul
                                      > Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18
                                      > Former State Rep candidate HD28 www.michaelfranks. org
                                      > Printer, organizer, and coordinator of the Statewide sign and
                                      materials for
                                      > the HOME STATE of the President 2000 and 2004,
                                      www.bushcheneysigns .com
                                      > Organizer of the GOTV effort and the "image" of the entire Texas
                                      Marriage
                                      > Amendment www.vote4marriage. com
                                      >
                                      > Its like HELLO!!!!!! is anyone home running Ron Paul's campaign?
                                      Im hardly
                                      > some "yeahoo" or "unknown" calling up there to chit chat or waste
                                      their
                                      > time....
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > >From: Dave Nalle <dave@...>
                                      > >Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                      > >To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                      > >Subject: [RLC-Action] RE: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                      > >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:32:32 -0500
                                      >
                                      > >
                                      > >Why can't we RLC members call the Paul campaign and volunteer to make
                                      > >phonecalls for them? If they're a serious campaign they ought to be
                                      > >able to figure out who we should call and put us to work? Right?
                                      > >
                                      > >Dave
                                      > >--
                                      > >
                                      > >Scriptorium Fonts: http://www.fontcraf t.com
                                      > >Ragnarok Press: http://www.ragnarok press.com
                                      > >Customer Support: 1-800-797-8973
                                      >


                                    • rlcmcallen
                                      I don t expect all RLC people to respect this, but I do you, Michael. Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. But the greatest
                                      Message 18 of 30 , Mar 25, 2007
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                                        I don't expect all RLC people to respect this, but I do you, Michael.

                                        "Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.
                                        But the greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts
                                        himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted."
                                        Jesus, quoted in the Gospel of Matthew 23:10-12

                                        I for one have had my fill of preening peacocks. The very thing you
                                        disparage is part of Dr. Paul's charm and appeal. It is the reason who
                                        people believe him, whether they agree or not.
                                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                                        Michal Franks wrote, among other things: "Ron, on a personal level has
                                        this very "sheepish" personality when it comes to being agressive."
                                      • Gary
                                        HI Dave: I have a list of Ron Paul guys on my computer right now. I have a list of Republican Chairs on my computer. When would U want me to send them to you?
                                        Message 19 of 30 , Mar 26, 2007
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                                          HI Dave:
                                          I have a list of Ron Paul guys on my computer right now. I have a list
                                          of Republican Chairs on my computer. When would U want me to send them
                                          to you? Anyone else? Please call me. GaryC

                                          --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, Dave Nalle <dave@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          <snip>
                                          >
                                          > If they aren't at the point as a campaign where they can do such
                                          > basic things as organize their
                                          > own phonebank, they may not be a great place for us to invest our
                                          > personal efforts or our support as an organization.
                                          >
                                          > Dave
                                        • Gary
                                          I subscribe to the Dan Patrick format of winning elections. He personally called all the preceint chairs in his district. All 120 or so. Is Ron Paul calling 5
                                          Message 20 of 30 , Mar 26, 2007
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                                            I subscribe to the Dan Patrick format of winning elections. He
                                            personally called all the preceint chairs in his district. All 120 or
                                            so. Is Ron Paul calling 5 folks a day who he has not called before.
                                            Well when I talk to em today, I will find out. I, Gary Coplin, am doing
                                            that as much as possible. GaryC
                                          • Gary
                                            Hi Doug: Would you have time to call Mark Elam @ (281) 484-1600 and coordinate the bumper stickers for us. I think he will be @ work around 9:00 am CST. GaryC
                                            Message 21 of 30 , Mar 26, 2007
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                                              Hi Doug:
                                              Would you have time to call Mark Elam @ (281) 484-1600 and coordinate
                                              the bumper stickers for us. I think he will be @ work around 9:00 am
                                              CST. GaryC

                                              --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, DGHarrison <DGHarrison@...> wrote:

                                              > That may be true, but as an individual, I much prefer to have some
                                              good
                                              > printed material to read. <snip>
                                              > And when I say "good printed material" I mean something that doesn't
                                              > look like a ransom note. The GOP is horrible about sending out push
                                              mail
                                              > with every other sentence presented in a different font. <snip>>
                                              > Doug Harrison
                                              > Minnesota
                                            • michael franks
                                              ummm Gary..you realize I have a 15,000 sq foot print shop here in Texas ;) bumperstickers are already printed!!!! Will be going up and out nationwide soon!!!
                                              Message 22 of 30 , Mar 26, 2007
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                                                ummm Gary..you realize I have a 15,000 sq foot print shop here in Texas ;)     bumperstickers are already printed!!!!   Will be going up and out nationwide soon!!!

                                                Michael

                                                www.texasgopstore.com



                                                 


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                                                Hi Doug:
                                                Would you have time to call Mark Elam @ (281) 484-1600 and coordinate
                                                the bumper stickers for us. I think he will be @ work around 9:00 am
                                                CST. GaryC

                                                --- In RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com, DGHarrison <DGHarrison@ ...> wrote:

                                                > That may be true, but as an individual, I much prefer to have some
                                                good
                                                > printed material to read. <snip>
                                                > And when I say "good printed material" I mean something that doesn't
                                                > look like a ransom note. The GOP is horrible about sending out push
                                                mail
                                                > with every other sentence presented in a different font. <snip>>
                                                > Doug Harrison
                                                > Minnesota


                                              • michael franks
                                                Yes, and in Texas they are having a straw poll on the weekend of Aug 31st and Sept 1. (i wonder if Ron s campaign even has a clue yet in DC?) This is something
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                                                  Yes, and in Texas they are having a straw poll on the weekend of Aug 31st and Sept 1.  (i wonder if Ron's campaign even has a clue yet in DC?)   This is something that has never been done before?    Will be more along the lines of a State Convention!!!! but not one...to where all who are running will be invited to come speak to the party faithfull and that Sat, Sept 1 there will be an official staw poll of party activist.    Only those who have been a delegate to the past several state or national conventions are authorized to attend and vote.

                                                  There was an unoffical call of just those on the state republican executive committe here in Texas of who they would support.  If this were 6 years ago, Ron would have been at the top. But he really hasn't been around, nor shown up much state wide to have "worked it" like most would have over the years.      Ron, even here in Texas amongst the very conservative srec folks, should be overwhelmingly in their minds?    Where is the campaign?     Do you know how that will look...if he can't even win his home state, amongst the most radical conservative bunch, who would be more along the lines of Ron Paul in ideology to begin with?    ie END the IRS, get out of the UN, give us all our guns back, NO CAFTA/NAFTA,  end the Dept of Education, total full school choice, restore the founders Republic, yadda yadda yadda, etc.   

                                                  By  September 1 this could be over for Ron, if he shows badly amongst the party faithful of his OWN STATE!!!!       They should be working NewHampshire, Iowa, and the first few primary/caucus states, as well as Texas, his BEST shot it would seem at winning a big state..his own!!! 

                                                  Where are the campaign emails and announcements going out?   There are folks on the SREC wanting to back Newt now.   Guilliani and McCain are TOAST here amongst the party grassroots.  The others are pushing Tancredo hard. etc. 

                                                  Michael

                                                  ps. I printed Dan Patricks Texas-State Senate race ;)


                                                  From: "Gary" <gary_coplin@...>
                                                  Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                  To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                  Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:33:47 -0000
                                                   

                                                  I subscribe to the Dan Patrick format of winning elections. He
                                                  personally called all the preceint chairs in his district. All 120 or
                                                  so. Is Ron Paul calling 5 folks a day who he has not called before.
                                                  Well when I talk to em today, I will find out. I, Gary Coplin, am doing
                                                  that as much as possible. GaryC


                                                • rlcmcallen
                                                  Michael, I don t know about the 2006 convention because it was the first one at which I wasn t a delegate or alternate in maybe a decade. But are you
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                                                    Michael,

                                                    I don't know about the 2006 convention because it was the first one at
                                                    which I wasn't a delegate or alternate in maybe a decade.

                                                    But are you forgetting about the 2004 State Contention when the RLC
                                                    had about 1,000 in a ballroom and Ron Paul spoke? That wasn't 6 years
                                                    ago.
                                                  • George Blumel
                                                    I ve been reading the Ron Paul for President correspondence and what I have learned from it is that he is not serious so why should we be? Altho he has a
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                                                      I've been reading the Ron Paul for President correspondence and what I have learned from it is that he is not serious so why should we be?  Altho he has a superb voting record from our view, he ahs drifted more populist in recent years. He does not have the persona to be president --sort of like Steve Forbes. I think Forbes is the most qualified man to be president of all the contenders since Reagan but the personality, looks and charisma are not there --and that is what it takes in this day and age.   Thompson?  Gingrich? Maybe a dark horse comes on the scene later. It is still early.   -Geo.
                                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                                      Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:43 PM
                                                      Subject: RE: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls

                                                      Yes, and in Texas they are having a straw poll on the weekend of Aug 31st and Sept 1.  (i wonder if Ron's campaign even has a clue yet in DC?)   This is something that has never been done before?    Will be more along the lines of a State Convention!! !! but not one...to where all who are running will be invited to come speak to the party faithfull and that Sat, Sept 1 there will be an official staw poll of party activist.    Only those who have been a delegate to the past several state or national conventions are authorized to attend and vote.

                                                      There was an unoffical call of just those on the state republican executive committe here in Texas of who they would support.  If this were 6 years ago, Ron would have been at the top. But he really hasn't been around, nor shown up much state wide to have "worked it" like most would have over the years.      Ron, even here in Texas amongst the very conservative srec folks, should be overwhelmingly in their minds?    Where is the campaign?     Do you know how that will look...if he can't even win his home state, amongst the most radical conservative bunch, who would be more along the lines of Ron Paul in ideology to begin with?    ie END the IRS, get out of the UN, give us all our guns back, NO CAFTA/NAFTA,  end the Dept of Education, total full school choice, restore the founders Republic, yadda yadda yadda, etc.   

                                                      By  September 1 this could be over for Ron, if he shows badly amongst the party faithful of his OWN STATE!!!!       They should be working NewHampshire, Iowa, and the first few primary/caucus states, as well as Texas, his BEST shot it would seem at winning a big state..his own!!! 

                                                      Where are the campaign emails and announcements going out?   There are folks on the SREC wanting to back Newt now.   Guilliani and McCain are TOAST here amongst the party grassroots.  The others are pushing Tancredo hard. etc. 

                                                      Michael

                                                      ps. I printed Dan Patricks Texas-State Senate race ;)


                                                      From: "Gary" <gary_coplin@ yahoo.com>
                                                      Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                                      To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                                      Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                      Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:33:47 -0000
                                                       

                                                      I subscribe to the Dan Patrick format of winning elections. He
                                                      personally called all the preceint chairs in his district. All 120 or
                                                      so. Is Ron Paul calling 5 folks a day who he has not called before.
                                                      Well when I talk to em today, I will find out. I, Gary Coplin, am doing
                                                      that as much as possible. GaryC


                                                    • michael franks
                                                      George, every candidate and campaign needs people to help and to do things for them, as no one can do it all on their own. Ron s deal is that he has always
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                                                        George, every candidate and campaign needs people to help and to do things for them, as no one can do it all on their own. Ron's deal is that he has always "luckilly" had the right people around him...almost inspite of himself type of a thing.   They are the ones who went out and "made it happen" FOR HIM.    He is right on the issues, gives a good talk and is a patriot.   He obviously has guts in certain areas, like being the ONLY vote against something. He is just too sheepish in making the move campaign wise when he needs to.  Its always a "lets wait, sit back and see while I vascelate and decide".   Its in total contrast to what he does on the house floor and is a true dichotomy.   Boggles the mind and frustrates many. But he is going to do what he is going to do.    That being said,   do we just pick it up and do it for him yet one more time?   The other times he has run he had someone like an Elam, Lizzardo..and yes Eric and others on the ground that KNEW how to organize folks.      If he just gets that person to do this...and them just "go and do it for him", then we have a shot.

                                                        Would just work better if the "official" campaign could give US back up.  It should be the other way around!!!!   Us assisting THEIR lead.     If Ron just shows up at things he needs to, the internet thing takes off and "WE" create the spin and coverage for him...then it can happen. But gosh..would be MUCH more easy if this were being run like the SERIOUS "professional" campaign it should be.

                                                        I will do what I am about to do nation wide for him regardless.  If Ron is failing to snap it together and realize he doesn't have the right people running things in house yet and fail in his duty to run his own campaign right and do so NOW, doesn't mean that I will fail in my duty to help him still, as incompetent and "clueless" as I think the campaign is at this point.      

                                                        Michael

                                                         

                                                         


                                                        From: "George Blumel" <gblumel@...>
                                                        Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                        To: <RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com>
                                                        Subject: Re: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                        Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:43:42 -0400
                                                         

                                                        I've been reading the Ron Paul for President correspondence and what I have learned from it is that he is not serious so why should we be?  Altho he has a superb voting record from our view, he ahs drifted more populist in recent years. He does not have the persona to be president --sort of like Steve Forbes. I think Forbes is the most qualified man to be president of all the contenders since Reagan but the personality, looks and charisma are not there --and that is what it takes in this day and age.   Thompson?  Gingrich? Maybe a dark horse comes on the scene later. It is still early.   -Geo.
                                                        ----- Original Message -----
                                                        Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:43 PM
                                                        Subject: RE: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls

                                                        Yes, and in Texas they are having a straw poll on the weekend of Aug 31st and Sept 1.  (i wonder if Ron's campaign even has a clue yet in DC?)   This is something that has never been done before?    Will be more along the lines of a State Convention!! !! but not one...to where all who are running will be invited to come speak to the party faithfull and that Sat, Sept 1 there will be an official staw poll of party activist.    Only those who have been a delegate to the past several state or national conventions are authorized to attend and vote.

                                                        There was an unoffical call of just those on the state republican executive committe here in Texas of who they would support.  If this were 6 years ago, Ron would have been at the top. But he really hasn't been around, nor shown up much state wide to have "worked it" like most would have over the years.      Ron, even here in Texas amongst the very conservative srec folks, should be overwhelmingly in their minds?    Where is the campaign?     Do you know how that will look...if he can't even win his home state, amongst the most radical conservative bunch, who would be more along the lines of Ron Paul in ideology to begin with?    ie END the IRS, get out of the UN, give us all our guns back, NO CAFTA/NAFTA,  end the Dept of Education, total full school choice, restore the founders Republic, yadda yadda yadda, etc.   

                                                        By  September 1 this could be over for Ron, if he shows badly amongst the party faithful of his OWN STATE!!!!       They should be working NewHampshire, Iowa, and the first few primary/caucus states, as well as Texas, his BEST shot it would seem at winning a big state..his own!!! 

                                                        Where are the campaign emails and announcements going out?   There are folks on the SREC wanting to back Newt now.   Guilliani and McCain are TOAST here amongst the party grassroots.  The others are pushing Tancredo hard. etc. 

                                                        Michael

                                                        ps. I printed Dan Patricks Texas-State Senate race ;)


                                                        From: "Gary" <gary_coplin@ yahoo.com>
                                                        Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                                        To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                                        Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                        Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:33:47 -0000
                                                         

                                                        I subscribe to the Dan Patrick format of winning elections. He
                                                        personally called all the preceint chairs in his district. All 120 or
                                                        so. Is Ron Paul calling 5 folks a day who he has not called before.
                                                        Well when I talk to em today, I will find out. I, Gary Coplin, am doing
                                                        that as much as possible. GaryC



                                                      • michael franks
                                                        This is what is not a good sign. In the state where just 6 years ago Ron wow ed them at the State Republican Convention, as well as at the NFRA event in
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                                                          This is what is not a good sign. In the state where just 6 years ago Ron "wow'ed" them at the State Republican Convention, as well as at the NFRA event in Dallas that I pulled off getting him to speak at, as well as when he addressed the State Republican Executive Committe, when once again, I got him to be the keynote speaker at our Dec 2001 meeting I think it was?   

                                                          Ron never "worked it" after that.  Several of us were TRYING to set Ron up for a potential US Senate race back then.   We even did a statewide poll to see what Ron's chances would be back then. (ok, hardly ANYONE even knows about this..but a few of us put it together and did it, including Eric) 

                                                          If and had Ron been "working it" over the years he would be really known statewide.  I tried!!!!    I was the biggest cheerleader in all of the Texas State Party for Ron.  ALWAYS pitching and promoting him while I was on the State Republican Executive Committee.    Ron has just wained in popularity in Texas, just because he hasnt' been there or shown up much...and never gets any publicity much. He COULD and SHOULD be on the houston radio circuit with a "weekly update" or even his once a week radio show.  etc.     Ron doesn't want to "promote himself as he is too humble.  But at the same time this is the political arena, no one will know who you are if you do not.    People are fogotten about quickly too.    Your a hero one day, then "who is that guy" the next.     

                                                          Trust me...I and a few others have tried over the years!!!! 

                                                          Read the article below from last weeks Dallas Morning News.    Notice how there is NO MENTION of Ron Paul anywhere!!!!     People in TEXAS do not even know he is running or serious.  This is the state where he would MOST be known!!!   and especially amongst the party faithful, who are more inline with his ideology.        

                                                          Jan Cansino, mentioned in the article and her husband are full on with us on ideology.  In fact, at that meeting back in 2001 where I pulled off getting Ron to be the main speaker to the party, her husband and Ron saw each other..and Ron instantly knew who he was.   They were BOTH apart of Ron's US SENATE race back in 1984!!!! As well as supported him in 1988 I do believe?

                                                          When someone like Jan on the SREC doesn't even mention you as one of her choices for President....thats not a good sign!!!!

                                                          Ron is his own worst enemy in the lack of his willingness to "work it", show up and speak to the party regulars.   He almost thumbs his nose at it and does the inverse.     

                                                          There is no reason he should not be polling higher amongst the SREC than he is now.    Shows past detachment since 2000, a lack of pr, and a current lack of promotion, marketing, campaigning, and even basic "awareness" in his home state.

                                                          Not to discourage anyone, but just stating the truth of the reality of the situation and what we have to work with.   

                                                          Ron should have 35-50% of the SREC, that he does not is disturbing to me. (they had a meeting last week or so I do believe..was Ron even there? Was there a campaign presence from anyone?   Any literature to give out? A "Ron Paul for President" campaign crew out in force? Did he host any of the events or lunch or even show up to speak or send anyone?) 

                                                          I swear someone needs to get me in the campaign structure and  some of these "basic" things would start happening.  or call Doug Lorenz or someone to help...for gosh sakes anyone of us with campaign 101 savvy, street tested, just have that "brain" for this kind of stuff in here!!!!

                                                          Michael

                                                          Former Texas State Republican Executive Committee SD18

                                                          State GOP leaders not enthusiastic about front-runners

                                                          11:55 PM CDT on Monday, March 19, 2007

                                                          By WAYNE SLATER / The Dallas Morning News
                                                          wslater@...

                                                          AUSTIN � None of the GOP presidential front-runners has generated much support among Republican Party loyalists in Texas, whose early favorite to head the ticket in 2008 hasn't even announced � Newt Gingrich.

                                                          Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney have few enthusiastic backers on the State Republican Executive Committee.

                                                          Support for Arizona Sen. John McCain in the party's governing body appears near zero, according to The Dallas Morning News canvass of committee members.

                                                          "I can definitely tell you that if John McCain were the candidate, I probably wouldn't vote," said Ellen Guthrie, a committee member from Tyler.

                                                          She and others cited Mr. McCain's push of campaign finance legislation and his past conflicts with Christian conservatives.

                                                          By contrast, Mr. Gingrich, the former House speaker who has yet to say whether he'll run for president, is mentioned more often among the party faithful who have a preference than any other potential nominee.

                                                          "He's a philosophical champion and communicator," said Clint Moore of Spring. "If I had money in Vegas, I'd put it on Gingrich right now."

                                                          The 62-member executive committee, elected from senatorial districts, tends to be more conservative than Republican voters as a whole. But members carry influence in George W. Bush's home state, especially in a fast-moving political season in which Texas may move up its primary.

                                                          The results not only suggest that Republicans are divided or even uninterested in the current field, but also that party insiders are trying to balance the desire for philosophical purity with the need to pick the most electable candidate against Democrats.

                                                          "I'm a little distressed that we don't have a Reagan and can say, 'That's my man,' " said Benona Love of Amarillo. "Instead, we have a number of people who all have strong qualities but with feet of clay, unfortunately, like all men do."

                                                          Many decline preference

                                                          The News reached more than 70 percent of the GOP committee. Half had no preference, saying it was too early. Of those with an opinion, Mr. Gingrich was the favorite of 29 percent.

                                                          Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, an ardent advocate of immigration enforcement, and Mr. Giuliani were preferred by 19 percent. But members cited shortcomings with both � Mr. Tancredo's low name identification and Mr. Giuliani's support of abortion rights and gun control.

                                                          The Texas GOP has scheduled a presidential straw poll Aug. 31 and Sept. 1 in Fort Worth, and many of the White House hopefuls are expected. Meanwhile, Texas is considering switching its primary to Feb. 5 from March, making the delegate-rich state more important in the nomination process.

                                                          Mr. Giuliani, who today headlines a fundraiser in Collin County and a rally at American Airlines Center's outdoor plaza, leads national polls of GOP voters. Backers tout his record as mayor and his response to the 9/11 attacks.

                                                          "We need a strong candidate with good name ID and a good record and someone who's well liked and can garner some votes from independent Americans. And I think Giuliani is that guy," said John Fowler, a GOP committee member from Dallas.

                                                          But others question whether religious conservatives would embrace a candidate such as Mr. Giuliani because of some of his moderate views on social issues.

                                                          "I'm certainly not going to support somebody that I don't think is going to hold spending down and continue to fight the battle for the Reagan social conservative agenda," said Jane Cansino of Lubbock. "So it's not just about pragmatism, it's about principle."

                                                          Ms. Cansino said she is not surprised Mr. Gingrich tops the list, but added: "My two favorites are dark horses: Tancredo and [California Rep.] Duncan Hunter. Whether they can get enough traction to get into the race, I don't know."

                                                          Mr. Gingrich recently admitted his past marital infidelity on James Dobson's Christian radio show, saying his affair with a House aide was at the same time he was attacking Bill Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

                                                          Mr. Moore of Spring, who said he'd like to see a Gingrich-Jeb Bush ticket in 2008, called the affair "a minor tarnish" on an otherwise strong conservative resume.

                                                          "If he didn't have the extramarital affair, he'd be as perfect as Reagan in every other way," Mr. Moore said.

                                                          Weighing in on Romney

                                                          In his appeal to social conservatives, a key part of the GOP base, Mr. Romney has abandoned his past support for abortion rights. The former Massachusetts governor is backed by 14 percent of the Texas party insiders who were contacted and expressed a preference.

                                                          "He lives his values, not just talks about them," said Tim Hoy of Dallas.

                                                          "Many of my fellow Christians may have doubts about him being a Mormon. But if you look at the predominantly Mormon state of Utah, they have a young average population age and yet a low rate of crime, out-of-wedlock births and a high rate of intact families," he said. "If Mormanism is a cult, with those characteristics, I would suggest that's a cult we could use more of."

                                                          Still, some members said they were suspicious.

                                                          "When I look at Mitt, to me he looks plastic. I'm afraid he's just mouthing the words," said Russ Duerstine of San Angelo. "He says a lot of the right things, but I'm not sure he's for real."

                                                          With the Texas primary nearly a year away and no consensus candidate yet emerging from the pack, would-be nominees have been making stops in the state, mostly to raise money.

                                                          The GOP straw poll should give the party's rank and file an up-close look at the candidates, say executive committee members.

                                                          Until then, said Clyde Siebman of Sherman, "We have a cakewalk. The music is still playing and people are still walking in the circle."

                                                        • michael franks
                                                          Yes, I know. It was actually 2002 when I first started the concept of an RLC reception!!!! Since I was on the SREC, I was able to secure a suite. We had Land
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                                                            Yes, I know. It was actually 2002 when I first started the concept of an RLC reception!!!!   Since I was on the SREC, I was able to secure a suite.  We had Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson and Ron Paul set to speak in my suite.   We promoted it, got the word out..I had already sent emails out statewide to the delegates before the convention and it was a sucess.  We packed that suite and had to have 2 showings!!!     I TOLD everyone it would work..and it did!!!

                                                            (as if I ever get credit for my political savvy and understanding campaign dynamics..haha)

                                                            So in 2004, they knew it would need a bigger room, as I knew too, and turned into a normal reception that others took my concept and ran with the planning of it.  (i didnt have time anyway)  

                                                            But John, that was still a come and go type thing, not him speaking before the entire convention with the same level of attention and "prime time" spot as he got in 2000.  He spoke around when Kay did and Congressman Barton..he made Barton look silly....haha, and Kay boring.  Was a "prime time" performance.    Not the same as having 1,000 coming into a reception to eat free food and goodies, with all the other receptoins going on too.    ;)      Was still good and succesfull, but not the same thing as 2000 by far.
                                                             

                                                            Ron even got PRESS coverage back in 2000 for having gotten the grass roots going and recieved more applause and standing ovations than anyone.          He could have taken that, gotten a delegate list of all of Texas, put that into an email newsletter or mailer and propelled himself into STATEWIDE notariaty.     ANYONE with any future higher office ambition would have done so.

                                                            Ron just wont do it.

                                                             Michael


                                                            From: "rlcmcallen" <pankratz@...>
                                                            Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                            To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                            Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                            Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:37:57 -0000
                                                             

                                                            Michael,

                                                            I don't know about the 2006 convention because it was the first one at
                                                            which I wasn't a delegate or alternate in maybe a decade.

                                                            But are you forgetting about the 2004 State Contention when the RLC
                                                            had about 1,000 in a ballroom and Ron Paul spoke? That wasn't 6 years
                                                            ago.


                                                          • rlcmcallen
                                                            I m trying to figure out what George means by Ron Paul for President correspondence. If he means Michael and Eric s slams he is basing his reaction on the
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                                                              I'm trying to figure out what George means by "Ron Paul for President
                                                              correspondence." If he means Michael and Eric's slams he is basing
                                                              his reaction on the opinions of two persons, who, for whatever reason
                                                              and without assigning motive, are doing Ron more harm than good.

                                                              Have you noticed the recent drumbeat from the media and Republican
                                                              power brokers for Fred Thompson? I think they have decided that he's
                                                              perfect for their purposes. It looks like we're going to be handed
                                                              another actor to be the public persona that they can use to be the
                                                              mouthpiece for our real rulers. A real statesman is not necessary.
                                                              Just a good actor. I recently received an email from a highly placed
                                                              operative in the Republican Party calling herself a "Fredhead" and
                                                              puffing him for all she was worth. Today there is a piece in
                                                              WorldNetDaily trying to get people on board. It's really sinister, I
                                                              tell you.
                                                              http://worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54872

                                                              Just in case anyone is really serious and interested in helping push
                                                              Ron Paul to the top, this piece explains exactly what will be
                                                              necessary in the next ten months for Ron to do. He must gain the
                                                              support of the evangelical right in the Republican primaries. To do
                                                              that he will have to convince them that uncritical support of the
                                                              modern secular state of Israel is not demanded by God.

                                                              http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/23766.html#

                                                              To do this he will have to enlist the good offices of some prominent
                                                              evangelical leaders, and his Christian supporters will have to
                                                              organize an entire theological movement to snap the churches out of
                                                              their hymnotic trance brought on by charismatic preachers who confuse
                                                              the Scofield notes with the Word of God.

                                                              If you don't come from that background you may not understand what
                                                              this means, but trust me, the Moral Majority crowd is critical to Ron
                                                              Paul's victory in the Republican primaries, at least in a lot of
                                                              states, including Texas.

                                                              We have a year more or less to move the culture. It remains to be seen
                                                              if we care enough to do it.

                                                              John P.

                                                              --- In RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com, "George Blumel" <gblumel@...> wrote:
                                                              >
                                                              > I've been reading the Ron Paul for President correspondence and what
                                                              I have learned from it is that he is not serious so why should we be?
                                                              Altho he has a superb voting record from our view, he ahs drifted
                                                              more populist in recent years. He does not have the persona to be
                                                              president --sort of like Steve Forbes. I think Forbes is the most
                                                              qualified man to be president of all the contenders since Reagan but
                                                              the personality, looks and charisma are not there --and that is what
                                                              it takes in this day and age. Thompson? Gingrich? Maybe a dark
                                                              horse comes on the scene later. It is still early. -Geo.
                                                              > ----- Original Message -----
                                                              > From: michael franks
                                                              > To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                              > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:43 PM
                                                              > Subject: RE: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              > Yes, and in Texas they are having a straw poll on the weekend of Aug
                                                              31st and Sept 1. (i wonder if Ron's campaign even has a clue yet in
                                                              DC?) This is something that has never been done before? Will be
                                                              more along the lines of a State Convention!!!! but not one...to where
                                                              all who are running will be invited to come speak to the party
                                                              faithfull and that Sat, Sept 1 there will be an official staw poll of
                                                              party activist. Only those who have been a delegate to the past
                                                              several state or national conventions are authorized to attend and vote.
                                                              >
                                                              > There was an unoffical call of just those on the state republican
                                                              executive committe here in Texas of who they would support. If this
                                                              were 6 years ago, Ron would have been at the top. But he really hasn't
                                                              been around, nor shown up much state wide to have "worked it" like
                                                              most would have over the years. Ron, even here in Texas amongst
                                                              the very conservative srec folks, should be overwhelmingly in their
                                                              minds? Where is the campaign? Do you know how that will
                                                              look...if he can't even win his home state, amongst the most radical
                                                              conservative bunch, who would be more along the lines of Ron Paul in
                                                              ideology to begin with? ie END the IRS, get out of the UN, give us
                                                              all our guns back, NO CAFTA/NAFTA, end the Dept of Education, total
                                                              full school choice, restore the founders Republic, yadda yadda yadda,
                                                              etc.
                                                              >
                                                              > By September 1 this could be over for Ron, if he shows badly
                                                              amongst the party faithful of his OWN STATE!!!! They should be
                                                              working NewHampshire, Iowa, and the first few primary/caucus states,
                                                              as well as Texas, his BEST shot it would seem at winning a big
                                                              state..his own!!!
                                                              >
                                                              > Where are the campaign emails and announcements going out? There
                                                              are folks on the SREC wanting to back Newt now. Guilliani and McCain
                                                              are TOAST here amongst the party grassroots. The others are pushing
                                                              Tancredo hard. etc.
                                                              >
                                                              > Michael
                                                              >
                                                              > ps. I printed Dan Patricks Texas-State Senate race ;)
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                              > From: "Gary" <gary_coplin@...>
                                                              > Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                              > To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                              > Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                              > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:33:47 -0000
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              >
                                                              > I subscribe to the Dan Patrick format of winning elections. He
                                                              > personally called all the preceint chairs in his district. All 120 or
                                                              > so. Is Ron Paul calling 5 folks a day who he has not called before.
                                                              > Well when I talk to em today, I will find out. I, Gary Coplin, am
                                                              doing
                                                              > that as much as possible. GaryC
                                                              >
                                                            • michael franks
                                                              John, remember, im a suporter of Ron still, Eric is not. Assesing the situation, being REAL and HONEST about it and who our candidate is, what is or is not
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                                                                John, remember, im a suporter of Ron still, Eric is not.   Assesing the situation, being REAL and HONEST about it and who our candidate is, what is or is not happening with the campaign, is a good healthy thing.   It would be like those who back Perry here in Texas and ignore all the other aspects about him, putting their heads in the sand and not REALLY being real and honest with themselves.     That is all I am doing.   People all over are asking "whats going on"? "why are they not doing this or that"? etc.      I am just answering with truth, first hand knowledge, experience, as I have seen, witnessed, and beheld with my own eyes and using my own background to asses it.                 Some of what I have commented on is not "my opinion" but some of it is fact.

                                                                In our "zeal" to want Ron to win and get elected, we do need to be real, honest, asses who our candidate is and is NOT,  for us to have better insight and knowledge in approaching things.

                                                                I am on board man.....regardless of Ron's personal "issues", faults and chronic areas of weakness.   Trust me...there is more I COULD say with names, comments, quotes from his own staff, reveal their own personal frustrations, etc.  but THAT would be counterproductive and just "nocking" him for no reason, which im not going to do, but just keep to myself...plus..it would put some in a very "awkward" position that I wont do.    

                                                                and like I said, I am going to do some things on my own effort nationwide!!!! 

                                                                All of my emails and coorespondance going out to others outside of "us" will be positive, Ron is the best thing ever,   etc.    but WE have to realize and be honest with our candidate and his campaign.     

                                                                Some might not like to hear it....but all I spoke was truth.     I hope Ron will get it together and get the right people running his campaign.  There is nothing to do or that can be done about the past and what Ron "coulda, woulda, and SHOULDA" been doing over the years.  What he CAN do is focus on today and what needs to be done now.   ...and us to realize where things are and why, work around it if not inSPITE of it, for the geater good to get the man elected!!!!

                                                                I will do all I can with my knowledge and capacites.

                                                                Michael

                                                                 



                                                                 


                                                                From: "rlcmcallen" <pankratz@...>
                                                                Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                                To: RLC-Action@yahoogroups.com
                                                                Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                                Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:49:00 -0000
                                                                 

                                                                I'm trying to figure out what George means by "Ron Paul for President
                                                                correspondence. " If he means Michael and Eric's slams he is basing
                                                                his reaction on the opinions of two persons, who, for whatever reason
                                                                and without assigning motive, are doing Ron more harm than good.

                                                                Have you noticed the recent drumbeat from the media and Republican
                                                                power brokers for Fred Thompson? I think they have decided that he's
                                                                perfect for their purposes. It looks like we're going to be handed
                                                                another actor to be the public persona that they can use to be the
                                                                mouthpiece for our real rulers. A real statesman is not necessary.
                                                                Just a good actor. I recently received an email from a highly placed
                                                                operative in the Republican Party calling herself a "Fredhead" and
                                                                puffing him for all she was worth. Today there is a piece in
                                                                WorldNetDaily trying to get people on board. It's really sinister, I
                                                                tell you.
                                                                http://worldnetdail y.com/news/ printer-friendly .asp?ARTICLE_ ID=54872

                                                                Just in case anyone is really serious and interested in helping push
                                                                Ron Paul to the top, this piece explains exactly what will be
                                                                necessary in the next ten months for Ron to do. He must gain the
                                                                support of the evangelical right in the Republican primaries. To do
                                                                that he will have to convince them that uncritical support of the
                                                                modern secular state of Israel is not demanded by God.

                                                                http://www.theconse rvativevoice. com/article/ 23766.html#

                                                                To do this he will have to enlist the good offices of some prominent
                                                                evangelical leaders, and his Christian supporters will have to
                                                                organize an entire theological movement to snap the churches out of
                                                                their hymnotic trance brought on by charismatic preachers who confuse
                                                                the Scofield notes with the Word of God.

                                                                If you don't come from that background you may not understand what
                                                                this means, but trust me, the Moral Majority crowd is critical to Ron
                                                                Paul's victory in the Republican primaries, at least in a lot of
                                                                states, including Texas.

                                                                We have a year more or less to move the culture. It remains to be seen
                                                                if we care enough to do it.

                                                                John P.

                                                                --- In RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com, "George Blumel" <gblumel@... > wrote:
                                                                >
                                                                > I've been reading the Ron Paul for President correspondence and what
                                                                I have learned from it is that he is not serious so why should we be?
                                                                Altho he has a superb voting record from our view, he ahs drifted
                                                                more populist in recent years. He does not have the persona to be
                                                                president --sort of like Steve Forbes. I think Forbes is the most
                                                                qualified man to be president of all the contenders since Reagan but
                                                                the personality, looks and charisma are not there --and that is what
                                                                it takes in this day and age. Thompson? Gingrich? Maybe a dark
                                                                horse comes on the scene later. It is still early. -Geo.
                                                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                                                > From: michael franks
                                                                > To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                                                > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 4:43 PM
                                                                > Subject: RE: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                                >
                                                                >
                                                                >
                                                                > Yes, and in Texas they are having a straw poll on the weekend of Aug
                                                                31st and Sept 1. (i wonder if Ron's campaign even has a clue yet in
                                                                DC?) This is something that has never been done before? Will be
                                                                more along the lines of a State Convention!! !! but not one...to where
                                                                all who are running will be invited to come speak to the party
                                                                faithfull and that Sat, Sept 1 there will be an official staw poll of
                                                                party activist. Only those who have been a delegate to the past
                                                                several state or national conventions are authorized to attend and vote.
                                                                >
                                                                > There was an unoffical call of just those on the state republican
                                                                executive committe here in Texas of who they would support. If this
                                                                were 6 years ago, Ron would have been at the top. But he really hasn't
                                                                been around, nor shown up much state wide to have "worked it" like
                                                                most would have over the years. Ron, even here in Texas amongst
                                                                the very conservative srec folks, should be overwhelmingly in their
                                                                minds? Where is the campaign? Do you know how that will
                                                                look...if he can't even win his home state, amongst the most radical
                                                                conservative bunch, who would be more along the lines of Ron Paul in
                                                                ideology to begin with? ie END the IRS, get out of the UN, give us
                                                                all our guns back, NO CAFTA/NAFTA, end the Dept of Education, total
                                                                full school choice, restore the founders Republic, yadda yadda yadda,
                                                                etc.
                                                                >
                                                                > By September 1 this could be over for Ron, if he shows badly
                                                                amongst the party faithful of his OWN STATE!!!! They should be
                                                                working NewHampshire, Iowa, and the first few primary/caucus states,
                                                                as well as Texas, his BEST shot it would seem at winning a big
                                                                state..his own!!!
                                                                >
                                                                > Where are the campaign emails and announcements going out? There
                                                                are folks on the SREC wanting to back Newt now. Guilliani and McCain
                                                                are TOAST here amongst the party grassroots. The others are pushing
                                                                Tancredo hard. etc.
                                                                >
                                                                > Michael
                                                                >
                                                                > ps. I printed Dan Patricks Texas-State Senate race ;)
                                                                >
                                                                >
                                                                >
                                                                ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                                                                > From: "Gary" <gary_coplin@ ...>
                                                                > Reply-To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                                                > To: RLC-Action@yahoogro ups.com
                                                                > Subject: [RLC-Action] Re: [RLCHouston] Don Zimmerman on phone calls
                                                                > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:33:47 -0000
                                                                >
                                                                >
                                                                >
                                                                > I subscribe to the Dan Patrick format of winning elections. He
                                                                > personally called all the preceint chairs in his district. All 120 or
                                                                > so. Is Ron Paul calling 5 folks a day who he has not called before.
                                                                > Well when I talk to em today, I will find out. I, Gary Coplin, am
                                                                doing
                                                                > that as much as possible. GaryC
                                                                >


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