- Guiliani can t win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he s also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand theMessage 1 of 12 , May 3, 2006View SourceGuiliani can't win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he's also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand the presidential nomination to him.
McCain, by contrast, has little to no real support among the GOP primary voters. His appeal now is entirely generated by favorable anti-GOP media puffery. He is the "media candidate" this time around, just as others like John Anderson (in 1980) and Pete McCloskey (in 1972) in the past have been fawned over by the mainstream media, and then utterly rejected by the GOP voters. (See? You've never heard of either of them, have you. That's my point. The mainstream media has *always* pushed any statist, socialist, anti-GOP Republican candidate they could seize upon; this pattern goes all the way back to Bill Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller in 1964 when the MSM was pushing them against Goldwater for the GOP nomination.)
Who would we be supporting? Sen. George Allen, of Virginia. He describes his political philosophy thusly: "If people are doing what they want to do, and they're not harming anyone else, then they shouldn't be bothered by the government." In other words, he's a moderate libertarian, and in fact has identified himself as such on occasion. Read up on him, and see if he isn't the answer to continued statism and socialism of either today's President Bush or tomorrow's Hillary Clinton. ---Tim CondonOn 5/3/06, Ray Holtorf <rayholtorf@...> wrote:
Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance
with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice!
I like Newt - but I'm sure he had a vote here or there
that someone hates. I know he had some personal
issues, but I don't think it stops him from a serious
run. He seems the most libertarian at this point...
let the FLAMES BEGIN! :-)
--- Dave Nalle <dave@...> wrote:
> I'm surprised to see Frist high in those polls. I
> have more faith in this one:
> Fox News also has a poll
>> Tasty Thoughts from the Elitist Pig
- Allen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don t think it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The primary voters willMessage 2 of 12 , May 3, 2006View SourceAllen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don't think
it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The
primary voters will be aware of how important it is to smash the
Democrats coming out of a troubled administration, and Giuliani
offers the best chance to do that.
As for his stands on guns and abortion, those are likely more
flexible than his detractors paint them. Last I checked his position
on guns on a nationwide basis was not anti-gun, but more
pro-registration, which is not exactly the same thing. He's not a gun
banner by any means. As for abortion, while it's a hot issue with a
minority of the GOP, just as in the general public, there are an
awful lot of people who are indifferent on the issue and won't make
it their first priority in picking a candidate. Plus Giuliani can
certainly spin his position more palatably for the pro-lifers if he
chooses to do so.
Tasty Thoughts from the Elitist Pig
- From: Jeff Palmer ... Another serious candidate who many members like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those with only legislativeMessage 3 of 12 , May 3, 2006View SourceFrom: "Jeff Palmer" <jap@...>
> My money's on Virginia's Dick Allen to win ...Another serious candidate who many members
like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those
with only legislative history is pretty dismal.
Others who have good LI ratings, but may not
be acceptable to members, are Sam Brownback
and Rick Santorum.
> I believe the Draft Sanford movement went intoCorrect. The Board had authorized me to put
> hibernation when Sanford explicitly said he wouldn't
> run due to his commitment as governor.
together a 'Draft Sanford' website, but the project
was abandoned when he clearly denied any intent
to abandon his gubernatorial term (maybe 2012?).
Note: An RLC Presidential endorsement is a
difficult task, since all 15 Charter states have to
approve the choice.