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Re: [RLC-Action] 2008 Presidential Endorsement

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  • tim condon
    Guiliani can t win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he s also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand the
    Message 1 of 12 , May 3, 2006
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      Guiliani can't win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he's also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand the presidential nomination to him.

      McCain, by contrast, has little to no real support among the GOP primary voters. His appeal now is entirely generated by favorable anti-GOP media puffery. He is the "media candidate" this time around, just as others like John Anderson (in 1980) and Pete McCloskey (in 1972) in the past have been fawned over by the mainstream media, and then utterly rejected by the GOP voters. (See? You've never heard of either of them, have you. That's my point. The mainstream media has *always* pushed any statist, socialist, anti-GOP Republican candidate they could seize upon; this pattern goes all the way back to Bill Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller in 1964 when the MSM was pushing them against Goldwater for the GOP nomination.)

      Who would we be supporting? Sen. George Allen, of Virginia. He describes his political philosophy thusly: "If people are doing what they want to do, and they're not harming anyone else, then they shouldn't be bothered by the government." In other words, he's a moderate libertarian, and in fact has identified himself as such on occasion. Read up on him, and see if he isn't the answer to continued statism and socialism of either today's President Bush or tomorrow's Hillary Clinton.   ---Tim Condon


      On 5/3/06, Ray Holtorf <rayholtorf@...> wrote:
      Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance
      with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice!

      I like Newt - but I'm sure he had a vote here or there
      that someone hates. I know he had some personal
      issues, but I don't think it stops him from a serious
      run. He seems the most libertarian at this point...
      let the FLAMES BEGIN! :-)

      --- Dave Nalle <dave@...> wrote:

      > I'm surprised to see Frist high in those polls.  I
      > have more faith in this one:
      >
      > http://www.pollingreport.com/WH08rep.htm
      >
      > Fox News also has a poll
      >
      > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188633,00.html
      >
      > Dave
      > --
      >> Tasty Thoughts from the Elitist Pig
      > http://www.elitistpig.com
    • Dave Nalle
      Allen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don t think it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The primary voters will
      Message 2 of 12 , May 3, 2006
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        Allen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don't think
        it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The
        primary voters will be aware of how important it is to smash the
        Democrats coming out of a troubled administration, and Giuliani
        offers the best chance to do that.

        As for his stands on guns and abortion, those are likely more
        flexible than his detractors paint them. Last I checked his position
        on guns on a nationwide basis was not anti-gun, but more
        pro-registration, which is not exactly the same thing. He's not a gun
        banner by any means. As for abortion, while it's a hot issue with a
        minority of the GOP, just as in the general public, there are an
        awful lot of people who are indifferent on the issue and won't make
        it their first priority in picking a candidate. Plus Giuliani can
        certainly spin his position more palatably for the pro-lifers if he
        chooses to do so.

        Dave
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      • westmiller@aol.com
        From: Jeff Palmer ... Another serious candidate who many members like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those with only legislative
        Message 3 of 12 , May 3, 2006
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          From: "Jeff Palmer" <jap@...>
          > My money's on Virginia's Dick Allen to win ...

          Another serious candidate who many members
          like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those
          with only legislative history is pretty dismal.
          Others who have good LI ratings, but may not
          be acceptable to members, are Sam Brownback
          and Rick Santorum.

          > I believe the Draft Sanford movement went into
          > hibernation when Sanford explicitly said he wouldn't
          > run due to his commitment as governor.

          Correct. The Board had authorized me to put
          together a 'Draft Sanford' website, but the project
          was abandoned when he clearly denied any intent
          to abandon his gubernatorial term (maybe 2012?).
          Note: An RLC Presidential endorsement is a
          difficult task, since all 15 Charter states have to
          approve the choice.

          Bill
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