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RE: [RLC-Action] 2008 Presidential Endorsement

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  • Ray Holtorf
    Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice! I like Newt - but I m sure he had a vote here or there
    Message 1 of 12 , May 3 6:21 AM
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      Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance
      with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice!

      I like Newt - but I'm sure he had a vote here or there
      that someone hates. I know he had some personal
      issues, but I don't think it stops him from a serious
      run. He seems the most libertarian at this point...
      let the FLAMES BEGIN! :-)

      --- Dave Nalle <dave@...> wrote:

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    • tim condon
      Guiliani can t win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he s also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand the
      Message 2 of 12 , May 3 7:08 AM
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        Guiliani can't win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he's also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand the presidential nomination to him.

        McCain, by contrast, has little to no real support among the GOP primary voters. His appeal now is entirely generated by favorable anti-GOP media puffery. He is the "media candidate" this time around, just as others like John Anderson (in 1980) and Pete McCloskey (in 1972) in the past have been fawned over by the mainstream media, and then utterly rejected by the GOP voters. (See? You've never heard of either of them, have you. That's my point. The mainstream media has *always* pushed any statist, socialist, anti-GOP Republican candidate they could seize upon; this pattern goes all the way back to Bill Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller in 1964 when the MSM was pushing them against Goldwater for the GOP nomination.)

        Who would we be supporting? Sen. George Allen, of Virginia. He describes his political philosophy thusly: "If people are doing what they want to do, and they're not harming anyone else, then they shouldn't be bothered by the government." In other words, he's a moderate libertarian, and in fact has identified himself as such on occasion. Read up on him, and see if he isn't the answer to continued statism and socialism of either today's President Bush or tomorrow's Hillary Clinton.   ---Tim Condon


        On 5/3/06, Ray Holtorf <rayholtorf@...> wrote:
        Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance
        with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice!

        I like Newt - but I'm sure he had a vote here or there
        that someone hates. I know he had some personal
        issues, but I don't think it stops him from a serious
        run. He seems the most libertarian at this point...
        let the FLAMES BEGIN! :-)

        --- Dave Nalle <dave@...> wrote:

        > I'm surprised to see Frist high in those polls.  I
        > have more faith in this one:
        >
        > http://www.pollingreport.com/WH08rep.htm
        >
        > Fox News also has a poll
        >
        > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188633,00.html
        >
        > Dave
        > --
        >> Tasty Thoughts from the Elitist Pig
        > http://www.elitistpig.com
      • Dave Nalle
        Allen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don t think it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The primary voters will
        Message 3 of 12 , May 3 9:07 AM
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          Allen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don't think
          it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The
          primary voters will be aware of how important it is to smash the
          Democrats coming out of a troubled administration, and Giuliani
          offers the best chance to do that.

          As for his stands on guns and abortion, those are likely more
          flexible than his detractors paint them. Last I checked his position
          on guns on a nationwide basis was not anti-gun, but more
          pro-registration, which is not exactly the same thing. He's not a gun
          banner by any means. As for abortion, while it's a hot issue with a
          minority of the GOP, just as in the general public, there are an
          awful lot of people who are indifferent on the issue and won't make
          it their first priority in picking a candidate. Plus Giuliani can
          certainly spin his position more palatably for the pro-lifers if he
          chooses to do so.

          Dave
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        • westmiller@aol.com
          From: Jeff Palmer ... Another serious candidate who many members like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those with only legislative
          Message 4 of 12 , May 3 11:03 AM
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            From: "Jeff Palmer" <jap@...>
            > My money's on Virginia's Dick Allen to win ...

            Another serious candidate who many members
            like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those
            with only legislative history is pretty dismal.
            Others who have good LI ratings, but may not
            be acceptable to members, are Sam Brownback
            and Rick Santorum.

            > I believe the Draft Sanford movement went into
            > hibernation when Sanford explicitly said he wouldn't
            > run due to his commitment as governor.

            Correct. The Board had authorized me to put
            together a 'Draft Sanford' website, but the project
            was abandoned when he clearly denied any intent
            to abandon his gubernatorial term (maybe 2012?).
            Note: An RLC Presidential endorsement is a
            difficult task, since all 15 Charter states have to
            approve the choice.

            Bill
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