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  • DGHarrison
    And there are several others. My money s on Virginia s Dick Allen to win the nomination. -- Jeff Palmer From Thomas Sowell today: One of the few encouraging
    Message 1 of 12 , May 2, 2006
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      And there are several others.  My money's on Virginia's Dick Allen to win the nomination. -- Jeff Palmer

      From Thomas Sowell today: One of the few encouraging signs in the current political scene is that Senator John McCain finished behind several other candidates in a Republican straw poll for Presidential candidates. Apparently his self-centered opportunism has not gone unnoticed, despite the good press he has gotten by pandering to the media.

      Does anyone have a link to that straw poll?

      Doug Harrison
      Minnesota


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    • Thomas Sewell
      Straw polls this year, SRLC is probably the one he s talking about. SRLC: http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/03/srlc_straw_poll_1.ht ml CPAC:
      Message 2 of 12 , May 2, 2006
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        Straw polls this year, SRLC is probably the one he's talking about.
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        And there are several others.  My money's on Virginia's Dick Allen to win the nomination. -- Jeff Palmer

        From Thomas Sowell today: One of the few encouraging signs in the current political scene is that Senator John McCain finished behind several other candidates in a Republican straw poll for Presidential candidates. Apparently his self-centered opportunism has not gone unnoticed, despite the good press he has gotten by pandering to the media.

        Does anyone have a link to that straw poll?

        Doug Harrison
        Minnesota
         

      • DGHarrison
        ... Thanks Tom. I am not particularly amused by the rather large number of people that wrote in Bush in the HotLine straw poll. Obviously, there was some
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          Thomas Sewell wrote:
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          Straw polls this year, SRLC is probably the one he's talking about.
          SRLC:
          CPAC:

          Thanks Tom. I am not particularly amused by the rather large number of people that wrote in "Bush" in the HotLine straw poll. Obviously, there was some sort of orchestrated effort to make that statement, whatever it's supposed to mean. Perhaps there was no option for "None of the Above," or "Other," but writing in "Bush" is still a pretty goofy response. Does anyone know of other Republican straw polls?

          Doug Harrison
          Minnesota



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        • Thomas Sewell
          According to one story, McCain was telling people to write-in Bush during that poll to show support once he realized he wasn t likely to win the poll, so you
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            According to one story, McCain was telling people to write-in Bush during that poll to "show support" once he realized he wasn't likely to win the poll, so you could read that 10% as being mostly for him as well.
             
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            Thomas Sewell wrote:
            Straw polls this year, SRLC is probably the one he's talking about.
            SRLC:
            CPAC:

            Thanks Tom. I am not particularly amused by the rather large number of people that wrote in "Bush" in the HotLine straw poll. Obviously, there was some sort of orchestrated effort to make that statement, whatever it's supposed to mean. Perhaps there was no option for "None of the Above," or "Other," but writing in "Bush" is still a pretty goofy response. Does anyone know of other Republican straw polls?

            Doug Harrison
            Minnesota
             

          • Dave Nalle
            I m surprised to see Frist high in those polls. I have more faith in this one: http://www.pollingreport.com/WH08rep.htm Fox News also has a poll
            Message 5 of 12 , May 2, 2006
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              I'm surprised to see Frist high in those polls. I have more faith in this one:

              http://www.pollingreport.com/WH08rep.htm

              Fox News also has a poll

              http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188633,00.html

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            • Ray Holtorf
              Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice! I like Newt - but I m sure he had a vote here or there
              Message 6 of 12 , May 3, 2006
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                Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance
                with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice!

                I like Newt - but I'm sure he had a vote here or there
                that someone hates. I know he had some personal
                issues, but I don't think it stops him from a serious
                run. He seems the most libertarian at this point...
                let the FLAMES BEGIN! :-)

                --- Dave Nalle <dave@...> wrote:

                > I'm surprised to see Frist high in those polls. I
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              • tim condon
                Guiliani can t win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he s also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand the
                Message 7 of 12 , May 3, 2006
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                  Guiliani can't win the nomination; not only is he pro-abortion but he's also anti-gun. The Republican base that votes in the primaries will never hand the presidential nomination to him.

                  McCain, by contrast, has little to no real support among the GOP primary voters. His appeal now is entirely generated by favorable anti-GOP media puffery. He is the "media candidate" this time around, just as others like John Anderson (in 1980) and Pete McCloskey (in 1972) in the past have been fawned over by the mainstream media, and then utterly rejected by the GOP voters. (See? You've never heard of either of them, have you. That's my point. The mainstream media has *always* pushed any statist, socialist, anti-GOP Republican candidate they could seize upon; this pattern goes all the way back to Bill Scranton and Nelson Rockefeller in 1964 when the MSM was pushing them against Goldwater for the GOP nomination.)

                  Who would we be supporting? Sen. George Allen, of Virginia. He describes his political philosophy thusly: "If people are doing what they want to do, and they're not harming anyone else, then they shouldn't be bothered by the government." In other words, he's a moderate libertarian, and in fact has identified himself as such on occasion. Read up on him, and see if he isn't the answer to continued statism and socialism of either today's President Bush or tomorrow's Hillary Clinton.   ---Tim Condon


                  On 5/3/06, Ray Holtorf <rayholtorf@...> wrote:
                  Guilliani has been openly pro-choice. He has no chance
                  with the primary voters - maybe a good VP choice!

                  I like Newt - but I'm sure he had a vote here or there
                  that someone hates. I know he had some personal
                  issues, but I don't think it stops him from a serious
                  run. He seems the most libertarian at this point...
                  let the FLAMES BEGIN! :-)

                  --- Dave Nalle <dave@...> wrote:

                  > I'm surprised to see Frist high in those polls.  I
                  > have more faith in this one:
                  >
                  > http://www.pollingreport.com/WH08rep.htm
                  >
                  > Fox News also has a poll
                  >
                  > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188633,00.html
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                  > Dave
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                • Dave Nalle
                  Allen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don t think it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The primary voters will
                  Message 8 of 12 , May 3, 2006
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                    Allen has certainly been polling surprisingly well, but I don't think
                    it makes sense to count out Giuliani and McCain at this point. The
                    primary voters will be aware of how important it is to smash the
                    Democrats coming out of a troubled administration, and Giuliani
                    offers the best chance to do that.

                    As for his stands on guns and abortion, those are likely more
                    flexible than his detractors paint them. Last I checked his position
                    on guns on a nationwide basis was not anti-gun, but more
                    pro-registration, which is not exactly the same thing. He's not a gun
                    banner by any means. As for abortion, while it's a hot issue with a
                    minority of the GOP, just as in the general public, there are an
                    awful lot of people who are indifferent on the issue and won't make
                    it their first priority in picking a candidate. Plus Giuliani can
                    certainly spin his position more palatably for the pro-lifers if he
                    chooses to do so.

                    Dave
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                  • westmiller@aol.com
                    From: Jeff Palmer ... Another serious candidate who many members like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those with only legislative
                    Message 9 of 12 , May 3, 2006
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                      From: "Jeff Palmer" <jap@...>
                      > My money's on Virginia's Dick Allen to win ...

                      Another serious candidate who many members
                      like is Sen. Chuck Hagel, but prospects for those
                      with only legislative history is pretty dismal.
                      Others who have good LI ratings, but may not
                      be acceptable to members, are Sam Brownback
                      and Rick Santorum.

                      > I believe the Draft Sanford movement went into
                      > hibernation when Sanford explicitly said he wouldn't
                      > run due to his commitment as governor.

                      Correct. The Board had authorized me to put
                      together a 'Draft Sanford' website, but the project
                      was abandoned when he clearly denied any intent
                      to abandon his gubernatorial term (maybe 2012?).
                      Note: An RLC Presidential endorsement is a
                      difficult task, since all 15 Charter states have to
                      approve the choice.

                      Bill
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