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RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

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  • Lisa Lepore
    A while back I was helping someone named Jen with Blanche Jillson. Are you helping her also, or are you working independently? If so, I’ll dig her name up
    Message 1 of 29 , Mar 15, 2013
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      A while back I was helping someone named Jen with Blanche Jillson. Are you
      helping her also, or

      are you working independently? If so, I’ll dig her name up out of my files.



      One thing I suggested at that time was to see if someone can look at the
      city directories in the library after

      1964 to see if she shows up with either a new address, or a death date which
      are sometimes published in the

      directories.



      Lisa

      lisa.lepore2@...







      From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
      Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
      Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:23 PM
      To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





      Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

      I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
      living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what
      they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes
      large problems in the site.

      Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
      children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
      offer.

      Mary

      --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
      , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
      >
      > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming
      she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via
      the SSDI.
      > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an
      obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
      Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
      > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
      copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
      make a copy for you if an obit was found.
      > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
      original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
      from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
      extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
      deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
      That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
      > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
      > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
      <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
      #89> &page=listFaqs#89
      > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
      > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
      memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
      you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
      1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
      newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
      home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
      newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
      Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
      2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
      the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
      permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
      name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
      NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
      photo), as
      > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
      remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
      you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
      record.
      > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff
      and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that
      copyright.
      > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary
      as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
      > Linda
      > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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      > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
      > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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      > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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      > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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      > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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      > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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      > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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      > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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      > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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      > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
      they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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      > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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      > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
      have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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      > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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      > Mary
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      > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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      > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much
      for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
      http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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      > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find
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    • Lisa Lepore
      Hi Linda, You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public? Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but
      Message 2 of 29 , Mar 15, 2013
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        Hi Linda,



        You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?



        Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.



        Lisa

        lisa.lepore2@...



        From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
        Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
        To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





        Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

        How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?

        I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.

        Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.

        Linda

        --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

        From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
        Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
        To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM



        Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

        I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
        living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

        Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

        Mary

        --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
        >
        > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
        > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
        > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
        > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
        > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
        > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
        > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
        > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
        as
        > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
        > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
        > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
        > Linda
        > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
        >
        > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
        > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
        > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
        > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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        > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
        >
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        > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
        >
        >
        >
        > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
        >
        > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
        >
        > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
        >
        >
        >
        > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
        >
        > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
        >
        >
        >
        > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
        >
        > So anything is a shot in the dark.
        >
        >
        >
        > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
        >
        > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
        >
        >
        >
        > Thank you for your kind offer though.
        >
        >
        >
        > Mary
        >
        >
        >
        > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
        >
        > >
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        > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
        >
        > >
        >
        > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
        >
        > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
        >
        > >
        >
        > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
        >
        > >
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        > > From: Stefanie
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        > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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        > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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      • Linda Peloquin
        Lisa,   Good question although they are a public record so I don t see why they wouldn t be.   I don t know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
        Message 3 of 29 , Mar 16, 2013
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          Lisa,
           
          Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
           
          I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
           
          RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
           
          In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
           
          It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
           
          What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
           
          And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
           
          I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
           
          Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
           
          I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
           
          At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
           
          Linda

          --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:


          From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
          Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
          To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM



           



          Hi Linda,

          You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?

          Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

          Lisa

          lisa.lepore2@...

          From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
          Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
          To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

          Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

          How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?

          I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.

          Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.

          Linda

          --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

          From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
          Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
          To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
          Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

          Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

          I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
          living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

          Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

          Mary

          --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
          >
          > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
          > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
          > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
          > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
          > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
          > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
          > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
          > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
          as
          > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
          > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
          > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
          > Linda
          > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
          >
          > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
          > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
          > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
          > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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          > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
          >
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          > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
          >
          >
          >
          > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
          >
          > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
          >
          > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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          > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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          > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
          >
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          > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
          >
          > So anything is a shot in the dark.
          >
          >
          >
          > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
          >
          > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
          >
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          > Thank you for your kind offer though.
          >
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          >
          > Mary
          >
          >
          >
          > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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          > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
          >
          > >
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          > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
          >
          > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
          >
          > >
          >
          > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
          >
          > >
          >
          > >
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          > >
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          > > From: Stefanie
          >
          > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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          > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
          >
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        • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
          Hi to all, Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated. For over 10 years
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            Hi to all,

            Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

            For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.

            They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
            1844.

            I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

            Mary

            --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
            >
            > Lisa,
            >  
            > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
            >  
            > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
            >  
            > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
            >  
            > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
            >  
            > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
            >  
            > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
            >  
            > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
            >  
            > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
            >  
            > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
            >  
            > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
            >  
            > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
            >  
            > Linda
            >
            > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
            >
            >
            > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
            > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
            >
            >
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            >  
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            >
            >
            > Hi Linda,
            >
            > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
            >
            > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
            >
            > Lisa
            >
            > lisa.lepore2@...
            >
            > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
            > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
            >
            > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
            >
            > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
            >
            > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
            >
            > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
            >
            > Linda
            >
            > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
            >
            > From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
            > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
            > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
            >
            > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
            >
            > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
            > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
            >
            > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
            >
            > Mary
            >
            > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
            > >
            > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
            > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
            > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
            > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
            > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
            > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
            > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
            > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
            > as
            > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
            > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
            > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
            > > Linda
            > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
            > >
            > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
            > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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            > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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            > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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            > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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            > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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            > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
            > >
            > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
            > >
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            > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
            > >
            > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
            > >
            > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
            > >
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            > >
            > > Mary
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            > >
            > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
            > >
            > > >
            > >
            > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
            > >
            > > >
            > >
            > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
            > >
            > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
            > >
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            > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
            > >
            > > >
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            > >
            > > > From: Stefanie
            > >
            > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
            > >
            > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
            > >
            > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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            > > > Mary,
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            > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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          • Lisa Lepore
            Probably a long shot on Blanche, but it did make me wonder about the car tax records. There were a lot more busses & routes back then, and many women didn’t
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              Probably a long shot on Blanche, but it did make me wonder about the car tax records.

              There were a lot more busses & routes back then, and many women didn’t drive let alone own a car.



              My mother & grandmothers all drove, but my husband’s mother and grandmothers did not.

              We had 2 cars also because we lived in the burbs too, and later on, my mother worked as well.

              I used to take the bus a lot during the 70’s, though.



              Now I live in the sticks. You couldn’t function here without a car. We don’t have a grocery store

              or even a pharmacy in my town. One gas station, a post office, town hall & library.



              I don’t know what has been searched for Blanche, but the best option is the city directories after

              1964, and the funeral homes that handled the services for the other family members. The cemetery

              is tough because almost all of them need the date of death to find anything. I may have suggested this

              before, but she might be with her parents or brothers & sisters if she had no family.



              Lisa









              From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
              Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:08 PM
              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





              Lisa,

              Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.

              I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.

              RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.

              In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc. You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.

              It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.

              What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll.

              And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label. Bah-humbug!

              I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.

              Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce. Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."

              I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.

              At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.

              Linda

              --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@... <mailto:lisa.lepore2%40gmail.com> > wrote:

              From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@... <mailto:lisa.lepore2%40gmail.com> >
              Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
              Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM



              Hi Linda,

              You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?

              Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

              Lisa

              lisa.lepore2@... <mailto:lisa.lepore2%40gmail.com>

              From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
              Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
              Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

              Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

              How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?

              I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.

              Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.

              Linda

              --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

              From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
              Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
              Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

              Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

              I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
              living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

              Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

              Mary

              --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
              >
              > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
              > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
              > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
              > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
              > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
              > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
              > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
              > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
              as
              > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
              > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
              > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
              > Linda
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              > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
              > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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              > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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            • Linda Peloquin
              Hi Mary,   Well, that early on it could well be that no municipal issuance or recording of BMD was required.    If I understand it, recording BMD was left
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                Hi Mary,
                 
                Well, that early on it could well be that no municipal issuance or recording of BMD was required. 
                 
                If I understand it, recording BMD was left sole to the discretion of the municipalities whether they wanted to do it or not.  Ken Carlson, dir. of  RI Archives would probably be your go to man for an ans.

                Your only options for that era might be church christening records or family bible entries of BMD but those bibles are darn hard to come by. 
                 
                Maybe the local historic society or RI Historic Society Library might have some in their collections but then you would still need the bible to be from your Jillson family or a close branch who might feel the need to record such events.  They might also be able to tell you if there was a small local broadside/newspaper of the time where local events such a family losing a child to death might be mentioned and if any copies or transcripts exist & where.
                 
                Boy, you really have some stealthy folks you hunt for.
                 
                Linda
                 
                 

                --- On Sat, 3/16/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:


                From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                Hi to all,

                Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.

                They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                1844.

                I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                Mary

                --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
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                > Lisa,
                >  
                > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
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                > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
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                > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
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                > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
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                > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
                >  
                > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
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                > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
                >  
                > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
                >  
                > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
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                > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                > Linda
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                > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
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                > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
                > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                > Hi Linda,
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                > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
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                > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                > Lisa
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                > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
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                > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
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                > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                > Linda
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                > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                > From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
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                > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
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                > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
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                > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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                > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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              • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                Well, of course, I didn t know I had them till about 8years ago. Being a rookie or somewhat of one, and the names being spelled every which way from Sunday,
                Message 7 of 29 , Mar 16, 2013
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                  Well, of course, I didn't know I had them till about 8years ago.
                  Being a rookie or somewhat of one, and the names being spelled every which way from Sunday, and all the fibbing and messing with dates marriage and children by my grandfather, it's wonder I have what I have. It's the help of others and perseverance that has picked the bones dry.

                  Ken has not been able to come up with any of the family in the archives except my gr gr grandfather Randolph and his family. He has tried to find things for me so often. No luck.

                  I have to remember also that what we now know as Woonsocket near where the original homestead was on Mendon Rd Woonsocket was at one time all Cumberland.

                  In fact in Luke's father's will Nathaniel talks about the homestead and another house across the street needing to be cared for by others as Luke and his brother Jarvis were under age and couldn't inherit.

                  I know for sure Jarvis is buried in the cemetery behind the second house called Jillson Lot and strongly suspect that Luke and Elizabeth are there too with field stone markers. We will never know that's for sure. Both Luke and Elizabeth died in their 30's whereas Jarvis married twice and lived to be 84 yrs old. The homestead and land destroyed to build condos, house moved to southern RI.

                  Mary


                  --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Hi Mary,
                  >  
                  > Well, that early on it could well be that no municipal issuance or recording of BMD was required. 
                  >  
                  > If I understand it, recording BMD was left sole to the discretion of the municipalities whether they wanted to do it or not.  Ken Carlson, dir. of  RI Archives would probably be your go to man for an ans.
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                  > Your only options for that era might be church christening records or family bible entries of BMD but those bibles are darn hard to come by. 
                  >  
                  > Maybe the local historic society or RI Historic Society Library might have some in their collections but then you would still need the bible to be from your Jillson family or a close branch who might feel the need to record such events.  They might also be able to tell you if there was a small local broadside/newspaper of the time where local events such a family losing a child to death might be mentioned and if any copies or transcripts exist & where.
                  >  
                  > Boy, you really have some stealthy folks you hunt for.
                  >  
                  > Linda
                  >  
                  >  
                  >
                  > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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                  > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                  > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                  > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                  > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 5:51 PM
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                  > Hi to all,
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                  > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                  >
                  > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                  >
                  > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                  > 1844.
                  >
                  > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                  >
                  > Mary
                  >
                  > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                  > > Lisa,
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                  > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
                  > >  
                  > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
                  > >  
                  > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
                  > >  
                  > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
                  > >  
                  > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
                  > >  
                  > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
                  > >  
                  > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
                  > >  
                  > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
                  > >  
                  > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                  > >  
                  > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
                  > >  
                  > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                  > >  
                  > > Linda
                  > >
                  > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                  > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                  > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                  > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                  > > Hi Linda,
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                  > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
                  > >
                  > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                  > >
                  > > Lisa
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                  > > lisa.lepore2@
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                  > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                  > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                  > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                  > >
                  > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                  > >
                  > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
                  > >
                  > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
                  > >
                  > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                  > >
                  > > Linda
                  > >
                  > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                  > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                  > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                  > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                  > >
                  > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                  > >
                  > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                  > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
                  > >
                  > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
                  > >
                  > > Mary
                  > >
                  > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                  > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                  > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                  > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                  > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                  > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                  > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                  > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                  > photo),
                  > > as
                  > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                  > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                  > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
                  > > > Linda
                  > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                  > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                  > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                  > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                  > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                  > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                  > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                  > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                  > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                  > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                  > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                  > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                  > > >
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                  > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                  > > > Mary
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                  > > >
                  > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                  > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                  > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                  > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                  > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                  > > > > From: Stefanie
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                  > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                  > > > > Mary,
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                  > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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                  Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After a
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                    Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I finally had a realization.

                    If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think the towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding the records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode Island and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.

                    Lorraine

                    --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Hi to all,
                    >
                    > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                    >
                    > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                    >
                    > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                    > 1844.
                    >
                    > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                    >
                    > Mary
                    >
                    > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Lisa,
                    > >  
                    > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
                    > >  
                    > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
                    > >  
                    > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
                    > >  
                    > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
                    > >  
                    > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
                    > >  
                    > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
                    > >  
                    > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
                    > >  
                    > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
                    > >  
                    > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                    > >  
                    > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
                    > >  
                    > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                    > >  
                    > > Linda
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                    > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                    > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                    > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                    > >
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                    > > Hi Linda,
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                    > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
                    > >
                    > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                    > >
                    > > Lisa
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                    > > lisa.lepore2@
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                    > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                    > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                    > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    > >
                    > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                    > >
                    > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
                    > >
                    > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
                    > >
                    > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                    > >
                    > > Linda
                    > >
                    > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                    > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                    > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                    > >
                    > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                    > >
                    > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                    > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
                    > >
                    > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
                    > >
                    > > Mary
                    > >
                    > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                    > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                    > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                    > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                    > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                    > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                    > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                    > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
                    > > as
                    > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                    > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                    > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
                    > > > Linda
                    > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                    > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                    > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                    > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                    > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                    > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                    > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                    > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                    > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                    > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                    > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                    > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                    > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                    > > >
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                    > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                    > > >
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                    > > > Mary
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                    > > >
                    > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                    > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                    > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                    > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                    > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                    > > > > From: Stefanie
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                    > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                  • Lisa Lepore
                    Registration of records wasn’t required until at least the mid 1800’s, and it was voluntary when it first started. People had to pay to register these
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                      Registration of records wasn’t required until at least the mid 1800’s, and
                      it was voluntary when it first started.

                      People had to pay to register these events so it would make sense that poor
                      people were less likely to do this.

                      Since it was voluntary, the town had no reason to seek them out.



                      Some towns did a good job of recording events and others did not.



                      In this early time period you could try to find church records, or family
                      bibles, or cemetery records



                      I’m guessing you already looked at the Barbour records?



                      Lisa







                      From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                      Behalf Of Quiche
                      Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:06 PM
                      To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





                      Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people
                      during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After
                      a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no
                      vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I
                      finally had a realization.

                      If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think the
                      towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the
                      community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to
                      these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding the
                      records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode Island
                      and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.

                      Lorraine

                      --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      , "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Hi to all,
                      >
                      > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                      Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                      >
                      > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                      have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson
                      and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                      children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males
                      over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                      >
                      > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                      censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                      great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                      > 1844.
                      >
                      > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                      does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like
                      dancing!!!!!!!
                      >
                      > Mary
                      >
                      > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                      wrote:
                      > >
                      > > Lisa,
                      > > Â
                      > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                      wouldn't be.
                      > > Â
                      > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                      > > Â
                      > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                      more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                      late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                      visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                      > > Â
                      > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                      everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                      clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                      milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                      name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                      your doorstep.
                      > > Â
                      > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                      that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                      got a job.
                      > > Â
                      > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                      enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                      helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                      bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                      offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                      to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                      a bagger on the payroll.Â
                      > > Â
                      > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                      some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                      lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                      get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                      no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and
                      is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or
                      if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                      maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on
                      the label. Bah-humbug!
                      > > Â
                      > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                      of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                      close by to home. Â
                      > > Â
                      > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                      descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                      and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                      essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                      "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                      > > Â
                      > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived
                      & if she really had need of one.
                      > > Â
                      > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                      especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                      > > Â
                      > > Linda
                      > >
                      > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                      > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                      ARCHIVES
                      > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                      > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Â
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Hi Linda,
                      > >
                      > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                      tax records are public?
                      > >
                      > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                      > >
                      > > Lisa
                      > >
                      > > lisa.lepore2@
                      > >
                      > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                      > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                      > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                      > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                      ARCHIVES
                      > >
                      > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                      cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                      directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                      any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                      > >
                      > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                      adjacent stone?
                      > >
                      > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                      1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                      come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                      her.
                      > >
                      > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                      property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                      > >
                      > > Linda
                      > >
                      > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                      <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                      > >
                      > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                      <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                      > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                      ARCHIVES
                      > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                      > >
                      > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                      > >
                      > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                      > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                      what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                      causes large problems in the site.
                      > >
                      > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                      children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                      offer.
                      > >
                      > > Mary
                      > >
                      > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                      wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                      assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                      DODs via the SSDI.
                      > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                      an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                      Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                      > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                      archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to
                      search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                      > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                      original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                      from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                      extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                      deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                      That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                      > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                      > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                      <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                      <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                      #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                      > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                      > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                      individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper
                      to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were
                      published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general,
                      obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from
                      the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should
                      list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in
                      the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                      11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives
                      in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                      permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                      name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                      NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                      photo),
                      > > as
                      > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                      to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                      you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                      record.
                      > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                      staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                      that copyright.
                      > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                      obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                      printed.Â
                      > > > Linda
                      > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                      > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                      ARCHIVES
                      > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
                      > > >
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                      > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                      > > >
                      > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                      > > >
                      > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                      > > >
                      > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                      and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                      her.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                      > > >
                      > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                      > > >
                      > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials
                      I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Mary
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                      much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                      http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                      find links to all states and counties in the USA
                      > > >
                      > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                      unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > > From: Stefanie
                      > > >
                      > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                      > > >
                      > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > >
                      > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                      ARCHIVES
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                      > > > > Mary,
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                      > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
                      > > >
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                    • Lisa Lepore
                      Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in there. I don’t know your people, so I can’t tell you if it’s them, but do
                      Message 10 of 29 , Mar 21, 2013
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                        Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                        there. I don’t know your

                        people, so I can’t tell you if it’s them, but do take a look.



                        They are online at ancestry.com



                        By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                        can’t get the site to download the files.



                        http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/



                        Lisa





                        From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                        Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                        Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                        To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES







                        Hi to all,

                        Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
                        for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                        For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
                        been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                        Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                        are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                        etc etc and the same with the females.

                        They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                        censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                        great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                        1844.

                        I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
                        pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                        Mary

                        --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Lisa,
                        > Â
                        > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                        wouldn't be.
                        > Â
                        > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                        > Â
                        > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                        more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                        late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                        visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                        > Â
                        > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                        everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                        clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                        milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                        name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                        your doorstep.
                        > Â
                        > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                        that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                        got a job.
                        > Â
                        > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                        enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                        helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                        bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                        offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                        to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                        a bagger on the payroll.Â
                        > Â
                        > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
                        massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
                        in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                        to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                        knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
                        jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
                        non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
                        dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                        label. Bah-humbug!
                        > Â
                        > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                        things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                        close by to home. Â
                        > Â
                        > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                        descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                        and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                        essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                        "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                        > Â
                        > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
                        if she really had need of one.
                        > Â
                        > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                        especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                        > Â
                        > Linda
                        >
                        > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
                        > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                        ARCHIVES
                        > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Â
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Hi Linda,
                        >
                        > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                        tax records are public?
                        >
                        > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                        >
                        > Lisa
                        >
                        > lisa.lepore2@...
                        >
                        > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                        > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                        > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                        ARCHIVES
                        >
                        > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                        cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                        directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                        any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                        >
                        > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                        adjacent stone?
                        >
                        > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                        1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                        come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                        her.
                        >
                        > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
                        tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                        >
                        > Linda
                        >
                        > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                        <mjbarnett23@...
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                        > From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@...
                        <mailto:mjbarnett23@...%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                        > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                        ARCHIVES
                        > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                        >
                        > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                        >
                        > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                        > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                        what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                        causes large problems in the site.
                        >
                        > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                        children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                        offer.
                        >
                        > Mary
                        >
                        > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                        wrote:
                        > >
                        > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                        assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                        DODs via the SSDI.
                        > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                        an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                        Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                        > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
                        copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                        make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                        > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                        original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                        from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                        extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                        deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                        That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                        > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                        > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                        <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                        <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                        #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                        > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                        > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
                        memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                        you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
                        1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                        newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                        home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                        newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                        Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
                        2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                        the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                        permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                        name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                        NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                        photo),
                        > as
                        > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
                        remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                        you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                        record.
                        > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                        staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                        that copyright.
                        > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                        obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                        printed.Â
                        > > Linda
                        > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                        > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                        ARCHIVES
                        > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
                        > >
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                        > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                        > >
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                        > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                        > >
                        > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                        > >
                        > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                        > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                        > >
                        > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
                        they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                        > >
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                        > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                        > >
                        > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                        > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                        > >
                        > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
                        have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Mary
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                        much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                        http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                        > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                        find links to all states and counties in the USA
                        > >
                        > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                        > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                        unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                        > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        > > > From: Stefanie
                        > >
                        > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                        > >
                        > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > >
                        > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                        > > > Mary,
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                        > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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                      • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                        Hi Lisa, Yes, and this family like all others had many members of varied income levels. Not all can be rich. From what I have learned from my branch they had
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                          Hi Lisa,

                          Yes, and this family like all others had many members of varied income
                          levels. Not all can be rich. From what I have learned from my branch they had members at many levels. Directs seem to be farmers, and yet Luke the one I am searching was listed in the Jillson book as a mechanic. Obituaries are really hard to locate. Even when my grandfather died in 1937 it was only a one or two line entry about service and burial.

                          Thanks for the information.

                          Mary


                          --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Registration of records wasn't required until at least the mid 1800's, and
                          > it was voluntary when it first started.
                          >
                          > People had to pay to register these events so it would make sense that poor
                          > people were less likely to do this.
                          >
                          > Since it was voluntary, the town had no reason to seek them out.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Some towns did a good job of recording events and others did not.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > In this early time period you could try to find church records, or family
                          > bibles, or cemetery records
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > I'm guessing you already looked at the Barbour records?
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Lisa
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                          > Behalf Of Quiche
                          > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:06 PM
                          > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people
                          > during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After
                          > a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no
                          > vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I
                          > finally had a realization.
                          >
                          > If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think the
                          > towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the
                          > community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to
                          > these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding the
                          > records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode Island
                          > and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.
                          >
                          > Lorraine
                          >
                          > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > , "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > Hi to all,
                          > >
                          > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                          > Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                          > >
                          > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                          > have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson
                          > and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                          > children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males
                          > over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                          > >
                          > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                          > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                          > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                          > > 1844.
                          > >
                          > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                          > does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like
                          > dancing!!!!!!!
                          > >
                          > > Mary
                          > >
                          > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                          > wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Lisa,
                          > > > Â
                          > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                          > wouldn't be.
                          > > > Â
                          > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                          > > > Â
                          > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                          > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                          > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                          > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                          > > > Â
                          > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                          > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                          > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                          > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                          > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                          > your doorstep.
                          > > > Â
                          > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                          > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                          > got a job.
                          > > > Â
                          > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                          > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                          > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                          > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                          > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                          > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                          > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                          > > > Â
                          > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                          > some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                          > lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                          > get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                          > no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and
                          > is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or
                          > if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                          > maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on
                          > the label. Bah-humbug!
                          > > > Â
                          > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                          > of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                          > close by to home. Â
                          > > > Â
                          > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                          > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                          > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                          > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                          > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                          > > > Â
                          > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived
                          > & if she really had need of one.
                          > > > Â
                          > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                          > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                          > > > Â
                          > > > Linda
                          > > >
                          > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                          > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          > ARCHIVES
                          > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >
                          > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Â
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Hi Linda,
                          > > >
                          > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                          > tax records are public?
                          > > >
                          > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                          > > >
                          > > > Lisa
                          > > >
                          > > > lisa.lepore2@
                          > > >
                          > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                          > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                          > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          >
                          > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          > ARCHIVES
                          > > >
                          > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                          > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                          > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                          > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                          > > >
                          > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                          > adjacent stone?
                          > > >
                          > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                          > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                          > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                          > her.
                          > > >
                          > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                          > property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                          > > >
                          > > > Linda
                          > > >
                          > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                          > <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                          > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                          > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          > ARCHIVES
                          > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                          > > >
                          > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                          > > >
                          > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                          > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                          > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                          > causes large problems in the site.
                          > > >
                          > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                          > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                          > offer.
                          > > >
                          > > > Mary
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                          > wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                          > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                          > DODs via the SSDI.
                          > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                          > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                          > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                          > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                          > archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to
                          > search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                          > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                          > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                          > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                          > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                          > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                          > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                          > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                          > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                          > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                          > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                          > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                          > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                          > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                          > individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper
                          > to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were
                          > published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general,
                          > obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from
                          > the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should
                          > list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in
                          > the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                          > 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives
                          > in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                          > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                          > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                          > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                          > photo),
                          > > > as
                          > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                          > to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                          > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                          > record.
                          > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                          > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                          > that copyright.
                          > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                          > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                          > printed.Â
                          > > > > Linda
                          > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                          > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          > ARCHIVES
                          > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                          > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                          > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                          > > > >
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                          > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                          > > > >
                          > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                          > > > >
                          > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                          > > > >
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                          > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                          > > > >
                          > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                          > and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                          > her.
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                          > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                          > > > >
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                          > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials
                          > I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
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                          > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                          > > > >
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                          > > > >
                          > > > > Mary
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                          > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > >
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                          > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                          > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                          > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                          > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                          > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                          > > > >
                          > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                          > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                          > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                          > > > >
                          > > > > >
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                          > > > > >
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                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > > From: Stefanie
                          > > > >
                          > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                          > > > >
                          > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                        • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                          Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold
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                            Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.

                            Thanks again,

                            Mary


                            --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                            > there. I don't know your
                            >
                            > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > They are online at ancestry.com
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                            > can't get the site to download the files.
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Lisa
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                            > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                            > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Hi to all,
                            >
                            > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
                            > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                            >
                            > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
                            > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                            > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                            > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                            > etc etc and the same with the females.
                            >
                            > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                            > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                            > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                            > 1844.
                            >
                            > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
                            > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                            >
                            > Mary
                            >
                            > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Lisa,
                            > > Â
                            > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                            > wouldn't be.
                            > > Â
                            > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                            > > Â
                            > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                            > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                            > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                            > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                            > > Â
                            > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                            > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                            > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                            > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                            > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                            > your doorstep.
                            > > Â
                            > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                            > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                            > got a job.
                            > > Â
                            > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                            > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                            > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                            > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                            > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                            > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                            > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                            > > Â
                            > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
                            > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
                            > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                            > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                            > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
                            > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
                            > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
                            > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                            > label. Bah-humbug!
                            > > Â
                            > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                            > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                            > close by to home. Â
                            > > Â
                            > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                            > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                            > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                            > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                            > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                            > > Â
                            > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
                            > if she really had need of one.
                            > > Â
                            > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                            > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                            > > Â
                            > > Linda
                            > >
                            > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                            > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            > ARCHIVES
                            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Â
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                            > >
                            > > Hi Linda,
                            > >
                            > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                            > tax records are public?
                            > >
                            > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                            > >
                            > > Lisa
                            > >
                            > > lisa.lepore2@
                            > >
                            > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                            > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            > ARCHIVES
                            > >
                            > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                            > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                            > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                            > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                            > >
                            > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                            > adjacent stone?
                            > >
                            > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                            > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                            > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                            > her.
                            > >
                            > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
                            > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                            > >
                            > > Linda
                            > >
                            > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                            > <mjbarnett23@
                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                            > >
                            > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                            > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            > ARCHIVES
                            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                            > >
                            > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                            > >
                            > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                            > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                            > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                            > causes large problems in the site.
                            > >
                            > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                            > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                            > offer.
                            > >
                            > > Mary
                            > >
                            > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                            > wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                            > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                            > DODs via the SSDI.
                            > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                            > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                            > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                            > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
                            > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                            > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                            > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                            > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                            > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                            > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                            > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                            > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                            > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                            > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                            > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                            > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                            > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                            > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                            > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
                            > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                            > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
                            > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                            > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                            > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                            > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                            > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
                            > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                            > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                            > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                            > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                            > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                            > photo),
                            > > as
                            > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
                            > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                            > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                            > record.
                            > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                            > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                            > that copyright.
                            > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                            > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                            > printed.Â
                            > > > Linda
                            > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                            > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            > ARCHIVES
                            > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                            > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                            > > >
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                            > > >
                            > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                            > > >
                            > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                            > > >
                            > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                            > > >
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                            > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                            > > >
                            > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
                            > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                            > > >
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                            > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                            > > >
                            > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                            > > >
                            > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
                            > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Mary
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                            > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                            > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                            > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                            > > >
                            > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                            > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > > From: Stefanie
                            > > >
                            > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                            > > >
                            > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > >
                            > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                          • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                            Lisa, You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour s records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are
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                              Lisa,

                              You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.

                              If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.


                              Mary



                              --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
                              >
                              > Thanks again,
                              >
                              > Mary
                              >
                              >
                              > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                              > > there. I don't know your
                              > >
                              > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > They are online at ancestry.com
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                              > > can't get the site to download the files.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Lisa
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                              > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
                              > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                              > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Hi to all,
                              > >
                              > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
                              > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                              > >
                              > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
                              > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                              > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                              > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                              > > etc etc and the same with the females.
                              > >
                              > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                              > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                              > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                              > > 1844.
                              > >
                              > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
                              > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                              > >
                              > > Mary
                              > >
                              > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Lisa,
                              > > > Â
                              > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                              > > wouldn't be.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                              > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                              > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                              > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                              > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                              > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                              > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                              > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                              > > your doorstep.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                              > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                              > > got a job.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                              > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                              > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                              > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                              > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                              > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                              > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
                              > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
                              > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                              > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                              > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
                              > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
                              > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
                              > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                              > > label. Bah-humbug!
                              > > > Â
                              > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                              > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                              > > close by to home. Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                              > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                              > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                              > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                              > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                              > > > Â
                              > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
                              > > if she really had need of one.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                              > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > Linda
                              > > >
                              > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                              > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > > ARCHIVES
                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Â
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Hi Linda,
                              > > >
                              > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                              > > tax records are public?
                              > > >
                              > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                              > > >
                              > > > Lisa
                              > > >
                              > > > lisa.lepore2@
                              > > >
                              > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                              > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > > ARCHIVES
                              > > >
                              > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                              > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                              > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                              > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                              > > >
                              > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                              > > adjacent stone?
                              > > >
                              > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                              > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                              > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                              > > her.
                              > > >
                              > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
                              > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                              > > >
                              > > > Linda
                              > > >
                              > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                              > > <mjbarnett23@
                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                              > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > > ARCHIVES
                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                              > > >
                              > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                              > > >
                              > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                              > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                              > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                              > > causes large problems in the site.
                              > > >
                              > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                              > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                              > > offer.
                              > > >
                              > > > Mary
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                              > > wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                              > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                              > > DODs via the SSDI.
                              > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                              > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                              > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                              > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
                              > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                              > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                              > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                              > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                              > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                              > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                              > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                              > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                              > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                              > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                              > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                              > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                              > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                              > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                              > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
                              > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                              > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
                              > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                              > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                              > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                              > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                              > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
                              > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                              > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                              > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                              > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                              > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                              > > photo),
                              > > > as
                              > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
                              > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                              > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                              > > record.
                              > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                              > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                              > > that copyright.
                              > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                              > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                              > > printed.Â
                              > > > > Linda
                              > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                              > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > > ARCHIVES
                              > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                              > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                              > > > >
                              > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                              > > > >
                              > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                              > > > >
                              > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
                              > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
                              > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Mary
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                              > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                              > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                              > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                              > > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                              > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                              > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                              > > > > > From: Stefanie
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                              > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > >
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                            • finnjordan4@...
                              Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland. On 03/22/13, mjbarnett23@ymail.com wrote: Lisa, You
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                                Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.



                                On 03/22/13, mjbarnett23@... wrote:






























                                Lisa,



                                You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.



                                If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.



                                Mary



                                --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:

                                >

                                >

                                >

                                > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.

                                >

                                > Thanks again,

                                >

                                > Mary

                                >

                                >

                                > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

                                > >

                                > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in

                                > > there. I don't know your

                                > >

                                > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > > They are online at ancestry.com

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I

                                > > can't get the site to download the files.

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > > Lisa

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On

                                > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@

                                > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM

                                > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > >

                                > > Hi to all,

                                > >

                                > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry

                                > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                                > >

                                > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have

                                > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and

                                > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children

                                > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10

                                > > etc etc and the same with the females.

                                > >

                                > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the

                                > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr

                                > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past

                                > > 1844.

                                > >

                                > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does

                                > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                                > >

                                > > Mary

                                > >

                                > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:

                                > > >

                                > > > Lisa,

                                > > > Â

                                > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they

                                > > wouldn't be.

                                > > > Â

                                > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â

                                > > > Â

                                > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot

                                > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my

                                > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to

                                > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â

                                > > > Â

                                > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because

                                > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &

                                > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,

                                > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You

                                > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to

                                > > your doorstep.

                                > > > Â

                                > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,

                                > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom

                                > > got a job.

                                > > > Â

                                > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker

                                > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but

                                > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &

                                > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them

                                > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close

                                > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &

                                > > a bagger on the payroll.Â

                                > > > Â

                                > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some

                                > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot

                                > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get

                                > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no

                                > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is

                                > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if

                                > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a

                                > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the

                                > > label. Bah-humbug!

                                > > > Â

                                > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of

                                > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied

                                > > close by to home. Â

                                > > > Â

                                > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non

                                > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere

                                > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the

                                > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,

                                > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."

                                > > > Â

                                > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &

                                > > if she really had need of one.

                                > > > Â

                                > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore

                                > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.

                                > > > Â

                                > > > Linda

                                > > >

                                > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

                                > > >

                                > > >

                                > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>

                                > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                > > ARCHIVES

                                > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM

                                > > >

                                > > >

                                > > >

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                                > > > Hi Linda,

                                > > >

                                > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle

                                > > tax records are public?

                                > > >

                                > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

                                > > >

                                > > > Lisa

                                > > >

                                > > > lisa.lepore2@

                                > > >

                                > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin

                                > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM

                                > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                > > ARCHIVES

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                                > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the

                                > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City

                                > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if

                                > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

                                > > >

                                > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an

                                > > adjacent stone?

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                                > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the

                                > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to

                                > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find

                                > > her.

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                                > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property

                                > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.

                                > > >

                                > > > Linda

                                > > >

                                > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>

                                > > <mjbarnett23@

                                > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

                                > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

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                                > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@

                                > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

                                > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >

                                > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                > > ARCHIVES

                                > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

                                > > >

                                > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

                                > > >

                                > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the

                                > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is

                                > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It

                                > > causes large problems in the site.

                                > > >

                                > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the

                                > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to

                                > > offer.

                                > > >

                                > > > Mary

                                > > >

                                > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>

                                > > wrote:

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                                > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children

                                > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find

                                > > DODs via the SSDI.

                                > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request

                                > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference

                                > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â

                                > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived

                                > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &

                                > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.

                                > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the

                                > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance

                                > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,

                                > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the

                                > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.

                                > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.

                                > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:

                                > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

                                > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

                                > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs

                                > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89

                                > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?

                                > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's

                                > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or

                                > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in

                                > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in

                                > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral

                                > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the

                                > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the

                                > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,

                                > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in

                                > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have

                                > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the

                                > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do

                                > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the

                                > > photo),

                                > > > as

                                > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to

                                > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,

                                > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial

                                > > record.

                                > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper

                                > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns

                                > > that copyright.

                                > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the

                                > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is

                                > > printed.Â

                                > > > > Linda

                                > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:

                                > > > >

                                > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>

                                > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                > > ARCHIVES

                                > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM

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                                > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.

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                                > > > >

                                > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.

                                > > > >

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                                > > > >

                                > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger

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                                > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island

                                > > > >

                                > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914

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                                > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband

                                > > > >

                                > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and

                                > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.

                                > > > >

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                                > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.

                                > > > >

                                > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.

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                                > > > >

                                > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries

                                > > > >

                                > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I

                                > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.

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                                > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.

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                                > > > >

                                > > > > Mary

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                                > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:

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                                > > > > >

                                > > > >

                                > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not

                                > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link

                                > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm

                                > > > >

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                                > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will

                                > > find links to all states and counties in the USA

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                                > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records

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                                > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some

                                > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it

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                                > > > > > From: Stefanie

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                                > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM

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                                > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                > > > >

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                                Sadly None are mine. Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over. Thanks to all Mary
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                                  Sadly None are mine.

                                  Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.

                                  Thanks to all

                                  Mary







                                  --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@... wrote:
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                                  > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.
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                                  > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                  > If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.
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                                  > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                  > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                  > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                  > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
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                                  > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                  > > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
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                                  > > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
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                                  > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
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                                  > > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
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                                  > > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
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                                  > > > etc etc and the same with the females.
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                                  > > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
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                                  > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
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                                  > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
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                                  > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                                  >
                                  > > >
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                                  > > > Mary
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                                  > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > Lisa,
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                                  > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
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                                  > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
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                                  > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
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                                  > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                  >
                                  > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
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                                  > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                  > > > > Â
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                                  > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                  > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
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                                  > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
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                                  > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                  > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                  > > > your doorstep.
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                                  > > > > Â
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                                  > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                  > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                  > > > got a job.
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                                  > > > > Â
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                                  > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                  > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                  > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                  > > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
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                                  > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
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                                  > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                  > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                  > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                  > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                  > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                  > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
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                                  > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                  > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                  > > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
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                                  > > > label. Bah-humbug!
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                                  > > > > Â
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                                  > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                  > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
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                                  > > > close by to home. Â
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                                  > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                  > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
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                                  > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                  > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
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                                  > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                                  > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
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                                  > > > if she really had need of one.
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                                  > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                  > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                  > > > > Linda
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                                  > > > >
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                                  > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                  > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                  > > > ARCHIVES
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                                  > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                                  > > > > Hi Linda,
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                                  > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
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                                  > > > tax records are public?
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                                  > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                                  > > > > Lisa
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                                  > > > > lisa.lepore2@
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                                  > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                  > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                  > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                  > > > ARCHIVES
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                                  > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                  > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                  > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                  > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                  > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                  > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                  > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                  > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                  > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                  > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                  > > > > Linda
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                                  > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
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                                  > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                  > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                  > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                  > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                  > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                  > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
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                                  > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                  > > > ARCHIVES
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                                  > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                  > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                  > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                  > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
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                                  > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
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                                  > > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                  > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                  > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
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                                  > > > > Mary
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                                  > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                  > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                  > > > wrote:
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                                  > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                  > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                  > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                  > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                  > > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                  > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
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                                  > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                  > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                  > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                  > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                  > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
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                                  > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                  > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
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                                  > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
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                                  > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                  > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                  > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                  > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                  > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
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                                  > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
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                                  > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                  > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                  > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
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                                  > > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
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                                  > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
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                                  > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
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                                  > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
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                                  > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
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                                  > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
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                                  > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
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                                  > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
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                                  > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
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                                  > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
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                                  > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                                  > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                  > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
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                                  > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
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                                  > > > record.
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                                  > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
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                                  > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
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                                  > > > that copyright.
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                                  > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
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                                  > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
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                                  > > > > > Linda
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                                  > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
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                                  > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                  > > > ARCHIVES
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                                  > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                  > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                  > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                  > > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                                  > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                                  > > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                                  > > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                                  > > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
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                                  > > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                                  > > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                                  > > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                                  > > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                                  > > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
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                                  > > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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                                  > > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                                  > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                  > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                                  > > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
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                                  > > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
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                                  > > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
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                                  > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                  > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                  > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                  > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                  > > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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                                • Linda Peloquin
                                  Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was
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                                    Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.
                                     
                                    When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.
                                     
                                    I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that  portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield.  All I have is a  History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.
                                     
                                    The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.
                                     
                                    3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth.   Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase.   In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.
                                     
                                    1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.
                                     
                                    1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore"  being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland. 
                                     
                                    There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.
                                     
                                    At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked.  Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket?  How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?
                                     
                                    Linda
                                     

                                    --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:


                                    From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                                    Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                    To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                    Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 1:38 PM



                                     





                                    Sadly None are mine.

                                    Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.

                                    Thanks to all

                                    Mary

                                    --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@... wrote:
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                                    > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.
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                                    > On 03/22/13, mjbarnett23@... wrote:
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                                    > Lisa,
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                                    > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                    > If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.
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                                    > Mary
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                                    > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                    > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                    > > Thanks again,
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                                    > > Mary
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                                    > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                    > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
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                                    > > > there. I don't know your
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                                    > > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
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                                    > > > They are online at ancestry.com
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                                    > > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
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                                    > > > can't get the site to download the files.
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                                    > > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
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                                    > > > Lisa
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                                    > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
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                                    > > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
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                                    > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                    > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                    > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                                    > > > Hi to all,
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                                    > > >
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                                    > > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
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                                    > > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
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                                    > > >
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                                    > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
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                                    > > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                    >
                                    > > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
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                                    > > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
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                                    > > > etc etc and the same with the females.
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                                    > > >
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                                    > > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
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                                    > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
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                                    > > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
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                                    > > > 1844.
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                                    > > >
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                                    > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
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                                    > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
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                                    > > >
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                                    > > > Mary
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                                    > > >
                                    >
                                    > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    >
                                    > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > Lisa,
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
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                                    > > > wouldn't be.
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
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                                    > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                    >
                                    > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                    >
                                    > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                    > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                    >
                                    > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
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                                    > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                    > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                    > > > your doorstep.
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                    > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                    > > > got a job.
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                    > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                    > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                    > > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
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                                    > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
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                                    > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                    > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                    > > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
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                                    > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                    > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                    > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
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                                    > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                    > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                    > > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
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                                    > > > label. Bah-humbug!
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                    > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
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                                    > > > close by to home. Â
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                    > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
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                                    > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                    > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
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                                    > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
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                                    > > > if she really had need of one.
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                                    > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                    > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                    > > > > Â
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                                    > > > > Linda
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                    > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                    > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                    > > > ARCHIVES
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                                    > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                                    > > > > Hi Linda,
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                                    > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
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                                    > > > tax records are public?
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                                    > > > > Lisa
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                                    > > > > lisa.lepore2@
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                                    > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                    > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                    > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                    > > > ARCHIVES
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                    > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                    > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                    > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                    > > > adjacent stone?
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                                    > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                    > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                    > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                    > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                    > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > Linda
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                                    > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
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                                    > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                    > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                    > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                    > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                    > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                    > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
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                                    > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                    > > > ARCHIVES
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                                    > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                    > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                    > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                    > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
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                                    > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
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                                    > > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                    > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
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                                    > > > offer.
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > Mary
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                                    > > > >
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                                    > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                    > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                    > > > wrote:
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                                    > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                    > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                    > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                    > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                    > > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                    > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
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                                    > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                    > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                    > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                    > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                    > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
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                                    > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                    > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
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                                    > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
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                                    > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                    > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                    > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                    > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                    > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
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                                    > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
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                                    > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                    > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                    > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                                    >
                                    > > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
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                                    > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                                    >
                                    > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                                    >
                                    > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                                    >
                                    > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
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                                    > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
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                                    > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                                    >
                                    > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                    >
                                    > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                                    >
                                    > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
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                                    > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                                    > > > photo),
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                                    > > > > as
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                                    > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                    > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                                    >
                                    > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                    >
                                    > > > record.
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                                    > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                    >
                                    > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                                    >
                                    > > > that copyright.
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                                    > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                    >
                                    > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                    >
                                    > > > printed.Â
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                                    > > > > > Linda
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                                    > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                    > > > > >
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                                    > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                    >
                                    > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                    >
                                    > > > ARCHIVES
                                    >
                                    > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                    >
                                    > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                    > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                    > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                    > > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                                    > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                                    > > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                                    > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                    > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                  • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                                    Hi Linda, I just was getting my information ready for Monday. I am going back to Central Falls as that was where I made contact the first time with this line
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                                      Hi Linda,

                                      I just was getting my information ready for Monday. I am going back to Central Falls as that was where I made contact the first time with this line and have gone back only once to continue the search for the famous will of Randolph that proved the connection.

                                      I never felt I followed thru enough there. One thing about there, they don't help you which is alright, but they don't bother either.
                                      I have gone through the Rehoboth Vital records, there were a few Jillsons, not mine of course.

                                      As far as Attleboro, I started there first, they had nothing on Jillson at least that's what they told me. They did the research, funny I don't remember the specifics, but the poor woman tried so hard.

                                      I have gone through online records prior to 1850 for every area I can think of with multiple different spellings. I keep going back to those old records because marriage and births of children occurred in that time frame.

                                      More than likely it will be a spelling transcription error. I found Luke today in one Census last name spelled Tillson. When I looked the J could have been taken for a T.

                                      Thanks for all you are doing for me.

                                      See my post on Oakland Grove Cemetery. Same old story.

                                      Mary










                                      --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
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                                      > Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.
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                                      > When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.
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                                      > I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that  portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield.  All I have is a  History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.
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                                      > The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.
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                                      > 3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth.   Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase.   In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.
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                                      > 1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.
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                                      > 1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore"  being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland. 
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                                      > There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.
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                                      > At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked.  Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket?  How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?
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                                      > Linda
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                                      > --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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                                      > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                                      > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                      > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                      > Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 1:38 PM
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                                      > Sadly None are mine.
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                                      > Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.
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                                      > Thanks to all
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                                      > Mary
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                                      > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@ wrote:
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                                      > > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.
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                                      > > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                      > > If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.
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                                      > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                      > > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                      > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
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                                      > > > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
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                                      > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
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                                      > > > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
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                                      > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                      > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                      > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                                      > > > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
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                                      > > > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
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                                      > > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
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                                      > > > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
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                                      > > > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
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                                      > > > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
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                                      > > > > etc etc and the same with the females.
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                                      > > > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
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                                      > > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
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                                      > > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
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                                      > > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
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                                      > > > > Mary
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                                      > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > > Lisa,
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                                      > > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
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                                      > > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
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                                      > > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
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                                      > > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
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                                      > > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
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                                      > > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                      > > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                      > > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
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                                      > > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
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                                      > > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                      > > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                      > > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                      > > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                      > > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                      > > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                      > > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                      > > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                      > > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                      > > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                      > > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                      > > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                      > > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                      > > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                      > > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                      > > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                      > > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                      > > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                      > > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                      > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                      > > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                      > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                      > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                      > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                      > > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                      > > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                      > > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                      > > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                      > > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                      > > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                      > > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                      > > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                      > > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                      > > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                      > > > > > Linda
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                                      > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
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                                      > > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                      > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                      > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                      > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                      > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                      > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                      > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                      > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                      > > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                      > > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
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                                      > > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
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                                      > > > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                      > > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                      > > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
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                                      > > > > > Mary
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                                      > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                      > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                      > > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                      > > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                      > > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                      > > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                      > > > > an obitÃÆ'‚ search &ÃÆ'‚ copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                      > > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. ÃÆ'‚
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                                      > > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                      > > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                      > > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                      > > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                      > > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
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                                      > > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                      > > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
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                                      > > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
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                                      > > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                      > > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                      > > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                      > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                      > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
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                                      > > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
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                                      > > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                      > > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                      > > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
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                                      > > > > you are the author of the obituary.ÃÆ'‚ Some obituaries that were published in
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                                      > > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
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                                      > > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
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                                      > > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
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                                      > > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
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                                      > > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
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                                      > > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
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                                      > > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
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                                      > > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published.ÃÆ'‚ Please do
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                                      > > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                                      > > > > photo),
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                                      > > > > > as
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                                      > > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                      > > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
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                                      > > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
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                                      > > > > record.
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                                      > > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
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                                      > > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
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                                      > > > > that copyright.
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                                      > > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
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                                      > > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
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                                      > > > > printed.ÃÆ'‚
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                                      > > > > > > Linda
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                                      > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
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                                      > > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                      > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                      > > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                      > > > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                                      > > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                                      > > > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                                      > > > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
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                                      > > > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                                      > > > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                                      > > > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
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                                      > > > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                                      > > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                      > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
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                                      > > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                      > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                      > > > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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                                      Wickipedia states Woon Falls Village founded in 1820. As a town, Woon was est. 1867 and incorporated in 1888. On 03/22/13, Linda Peloquin wrote: Just wanted to
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                                        Wickipedia states Woon Falls Village founded in 1820. As a town, Woon was est. 1867 and incorporated in 1888.


                                        On 03/22/13, Linda Peloquin wrote:






























                                        Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield. And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.



                                        When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.



                                        I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield. All I have is a History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.



                                        The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.



                                        3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth. Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase. In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.



                                        1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.



                                        1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore" being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland.



                                        There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.



                                        At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked. Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket? How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?



                                        Linda





                                        --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:



                                        From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>

                                        Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

                                        To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

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                                        Sadly None are mine.



                                        Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.



                                        Thanks to all



                                        Mary



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                                        > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.

                                        >

                                        > >

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                                        > > Thanks again,

                                        >

                                        > >

                                        >

                                        > > Mary

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                                        > >

                                        >

                                        > >

                                        >

                                        > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

                                        >

                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in

                                        >

                                        > > > there. I don't know your

                                        >

                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.

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                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > > They are online at ancestry.com

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I

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                                        > > > can't get the site to download the files.

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > > Lisa

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On

                                        >

                                        > > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@

                                        >

                                        > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM

                                        >

                                        > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                        >

                                        > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

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                                        > > >

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                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > Hi to all,

                                        >

                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry

                                        >

                                        > > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                                        >

                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have

                                        >

                                        > > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and

                                        >

                                        > > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children

                                        >

                                        > > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10

                                        >

                                        > > > etc etc and the same with the females.

                                        >

                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the

                                        >

                                        > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr

                                        >

                                        > > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past

                                        >

                                        > > > 1844.

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                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does

                                        >

                                        > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                                        >

                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > Mary

                                        >

                                        > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Lisa,

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they

                                        >

                                        > > > wouldn't be.

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.�?

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot

                                        >

                                        > > > more service.�? I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my

                                        >

                                        > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to

                                        >

                                        > > > visit her older brother.�? My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.�?

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because

                                        >

                                        > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &

                                        >

                                        > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,

                                        >

                                        > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.�? �? You

                                        >

                                        > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to

                                        >

                                        > > > your doorstep.

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,

                                        >

                                        > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom

                                        >

                                        > > > got a job.

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker

                                        >

                                        > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual�? but

                                        >

                                        > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &

                                        >

                                        > > > bagging, too.�? More profit for them I guess because I don't see them

                                        >

                                        > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, �? or even close

                                        >

                                        > > > to commensurate,�? to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &

                                        >

                                        > > > a bagger on the payroll.�?

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some

                                        >

                                        > > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in�? from the boonies of the parking lot

                                        >

                                        > > > in�? the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc.�? to get

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                                        > > > to the door�? & then trudge through a huge box store to shop�? that has�? no

                                        >

                                        > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor�? if you need help or have a question and is

                                        >

                                        > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country�? or if

                                        >

                                        > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of�? abt. maybe a

                                        >

                                        > > > dozen�? major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the

                                        >

                                        > > > label.�? Bah-humbug!

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.�? There were a lot of

                                        >

                                        > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied

                                        >

                                        > > > close by to home.�? �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non

                                        >

                                        > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere

                                        >

                                        > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the

                                        >

                                        > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.�? �? Like the�? Joni Mitchell�? song said,

                                        >

                                        > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &

                                        >

                                        > > > if she really had need of one.

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore

                                        >

                                        > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.

                                        >

                                        > > > > �?

                                        >

                                        > > > > Linda

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>

                                        >

                                        > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                        >

                                        > > > ARCHIVES

                                        >

                                        > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > > �?

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Hi Linda,

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle

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                                        > > > tax records are public?

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Lisa

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > lisa.lepore2@

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin

                                        >

                                        > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM

                                        >

                                        > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

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                                        > > > ARCHIVES

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the

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                                        > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City

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                                        > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if

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                                        > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an

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                                        > > > adjacent stone?

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the

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                                        > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to

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                                        > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find

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                                        > > > her.

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property

                                        >

                                        > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.

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                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Linda

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > <mjbarnett23@

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

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                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                        >

                                        > > > ARCHIVES

                                        >

                                        > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

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                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the

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                                        > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is

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                                        > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It

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                                        > > > causes large problems in the site.

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the

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                                        > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to

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                                        > > > offer.

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                                        > > > >

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                                        > > > > Mary

                                        >

                                        > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>

                                        >

                                        > > > wrote:

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                                        > > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children

                                        >

                                        > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find

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                                        > > > DODs via the SSDI.

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                                        > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request

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                                        > > > an obit�?�? search &�?�? copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference

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                                        > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. �?�?

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                                        > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived

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                                        > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &

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                                        > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.

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                                        > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the

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                                        > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance

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                                        > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,

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                                        > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the

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                                        > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.

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                                        > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.

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                                        > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:

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                                        > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

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                                        > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

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                                        > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs

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                                        > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89

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                                        > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?

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                                        > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's

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                                        > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or

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                                        > > > you are the author of the obituary.�?�? Some obituaries that were published in

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                                        > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in

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                                        > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral

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                                        > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the

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                                        > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the

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                                        > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,

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                                        > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in

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                                        > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have

                                        >

                                        > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the

                                        >

                                        > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published.�?�? Please do

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                                        > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the

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                                        > > > photo),

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                                        > > > > as

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                                        > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to

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                                        > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,

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                                        > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial

                                        >

                                        > > > record.

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                                        > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper

                                        >

                                        > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns

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                                        > > > that copyright.

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                                        > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the

                                        >

                                        > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is

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                                        > > > printed.�?�?

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                                        > > > > > Linda

                                        >

                                        > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:

                                        >

                                        > > > > >

                                        >

                                        > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>

                                        >

                                        > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                        >

                                        > > > ARCHIVES

                                        >

                                        > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                        > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM

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                                        > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.

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                                        > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914

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                                        > > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband

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                                        > > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and

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                                        > > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.

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                                        > > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.

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                                        > > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.

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                                        > > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries

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                                        > > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I

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                                        > > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.

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                                        > > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.

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                                        > > > > > Mary

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                        >

                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > >

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not

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                                        > > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link

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                                        > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > >

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will

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                                        > > > find links to all states and counties in the USA

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records

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                                        > > > > >

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                                        > > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some

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                                        > > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it

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                                      • Lisa Lepore
                                        If you had any that lived past 1936 that are missing a birth record you might try looking for a delayed record. They would have needed a birth certificate if
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                                          If you had any that lived past 1936 that are missing a birth record you
                                          might try looking for a delayed record.

                                          They would have needed a birth certificate if they signed up for social
                                          security.



                                          Lisa





                                          From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                          Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                          Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:34 AM
                                          To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





                                          Hi Lisa,

                                          Yes, and this family like all others had many members of varied income
                                          levels. Not all can be rich. From what I have learned from my branch they
                                          had members at many levels. Directs seem to be farmers, and yet Luke the one
                                          I am searching was listed in the Jillson book as a mechanic. Obituaries are
                                          really hard to locate. Even when my grandfather died in 1937 it was only a
                                          one or two line entry about service and burial.

                                          Thanks for the information.

                                          Mary

                                          --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          , "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Registration of records wasn't required until at least the mid 1800's, and
                                          > it was voluntary when it first started.
                                          >
                                          > People had to pay to register these events so it would make sense that
                                          poor
                                          > people were less likely to do this.
                                          >
                                          > Since it was voluntary, the town had no reason to seek them out.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Some towns did a good job of recording events and others did not.
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > In this early time period you could try to find church records, or family
                                          > bibles, or cemetery records
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > I'm guessing you already looked at the Barbour records?
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Lisa
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          ] On
                                          > Behalf Of Quiche
                                          > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:06 PM
                                          > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                          ARCHIVES
                                          >
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                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people
                                          > during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT.
                                          After
                                          > a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no
                                          > vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I
                                          > finally had a realization.
                                          >
                                          > If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think
                                          the
                                          > towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the
                                          > community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to
                                          > these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding
                                          the
                                          > records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode
                                          Island
                                          > and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.
                                          >
                                          > Lorraine
                                          >
                                          > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > , "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > Hi to all,
                                          > >
                                          > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                                          > Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                          > >
                                          > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                                          > have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson
                                          > and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                                          > children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males
                                          > over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                                          > >
                                          > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in
                                          the
                                          > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                                          > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                          > > 1844.
                                          > >
                                          > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                                          > does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like
                                          > dancing!!!!!!!
                                          > >
                                          > > Mary
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                          > wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Lisa,
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why
                                          they
                                          > wouldn't be.
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                          > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                          > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                          > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                          > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                          > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a
                                          truck,
                                          > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                          > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                                          > your doorstep.
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                          > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my
                                          Mom
                                          > got a job.
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly
                                          snooker
                                          > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usualÂ
                                          but
                                          > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                          > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                          > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even
                                          close
                                          > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person
                                          &
                                          > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                                          > some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the
                                          parking
                                          > lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                                          > get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                                          > no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question
                                          and
                                          > is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor countryÂ
                                          or
                                          > if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                                          > maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is
                                          on
                                          > the label. Bah-humbug!
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                                          > of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need
                                          supplied
                                          > close by to home. Â
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                          > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                                          > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                          > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song
                                          said,
                                          > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's
                                          gone."
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she
                                          lived
                                          > & if she really had need of one.
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                          > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > > Linda
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                          > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                          OBITUARY
                                          > ARCHIVES
                                          > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          >
                                          > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Â
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Hi Linda,
                                          > > >
                                          > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if
                                          vehicle
                                          > tax records are public?
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Lisa
                                          > > >
                                          > > > lisa.lepore2@
                                          > > >
                                          > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                          > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                          > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          >
                                          > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                          OBITUARY
                                          > ARCHIVES
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for
                                          the
                                          > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                                          > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                                          > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                          > adjacent stone?
                                          > > >
                                          > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the
                                          the
                                          > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark
                                          to
                                          > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                          > her.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                                          > property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Linda
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                          > <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                          > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                          > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                          > ARCHIVES
                                          > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                                          > > >
                                          > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                          > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                          > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                          > causes large problems in the site.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about
                                          the
                                          > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                          > offer.
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Mary
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                          > wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                          > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can
                                          find
                                          > DODs via the SSDI.
                                          > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then
                                          request
                                          > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from
                                          Reference
                                          > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                          > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                                          > archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to
                                          > search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                          > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                          > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with
                                          assistance
                                          > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference
                                          material,
                                          > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                          > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a
                                          memorial.
                                          > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                                          > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                          > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                          > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                          > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                          <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                                          > &page=listFaqs
                                          > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                                          > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                          > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                                          > individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper
                                          > to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that
                                          were
                                          > published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general,
                                          > obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from
                                          > the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it
                                          should
                                          > list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in
                                          > the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition,
                                          April
                                          > 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving
                                          relatives
                                          > in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                          > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating
                                          the
                                          > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                                          > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                                          > photo),
                                          > > > as
                                          > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                                          > to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records.
                                          Similarly,
                                          > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                          > record.
                                          > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                          > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                                          > that copyright.
                                          > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                          > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                          > printed.Â
                                          > > > > Linda
                                          > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                          > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                          > ARCHIVES
                                          > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                          > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her
                                          husband
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                                          > and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                                          > her.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the
                                          memorials
                                          > I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Mary
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                                          > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                                          > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                                          > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                                          > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                        • Lisa Lepore
                                          I’m not sure if you are saying you didn’t find them in Arnold or you didn’t look in Arnold. If you haven’t looked, check it out. I found Cumberland in
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                                            I’m not sure if you are saying you didn’t find them in Arnold or you didn’t
                                            look in Arnold. If you haven’t looked, check it out.



                                            I found Cumberland in Vol 3 of Arnold. Do you have a subscription to
                                            ancestry.com? If so, just search for Jillson, and they will come up.

                                            It’s under the category of Stories and Publications, not the historical
                                            records.



                                            I saw a Luke Jillson in there, age 68, died at Cumberland 06 Jan 1823



                                            Lisa







                                            From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                            Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                            Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:38 PM
                                            To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                            Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES







                                            Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds
                                            books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the
                                            Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the
                                            Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my
                                            missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage
                                            date.

                                            Thanks again,

                                            Mary

                                            --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            , "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                                            > there. I don't know your
                                            >
                                            > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > They are online at ancestry.com
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                                            > can't get the site to download the files.
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Lisa
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            ] On
                                            > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                            > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                                            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                            ARCHIVES
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Hi to all,
                                            >
                                            > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                                            Ancestry
                                            > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                            >
                                            > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                                            have
                                            > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                            > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                                            > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                                            > etc etc and the same with the females.
                                            >
                                            > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                                            > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                                            > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                            > 1844.
                                            >
                                            > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                                            does
                                            > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                                            >
                                            > Mary
                                            >
                                            > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > Lisa,
                                            > > Â
                                            > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                                            > wouldn't be.
                                            > > Â
                                            > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                            > > Â
                                            > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                            > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                            > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                            > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                            > > Â
                                            > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                            > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                            > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a
                                            truck,
                                            > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                            > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                                            > your doorstep.
                                            > > Â
                                            > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                            > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my
                                            Mom
                                            > got a job.
                                            > > Â
                                            > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                                            > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usualÂ
                                            but
                                            > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                            > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                            > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even
                                            close
                                            > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person
                                            &
                                            > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                            > > Â
                                            > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                                            some
                                            > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                                            lot
                                            > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                                            > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                                            > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and
                                            is
                                            > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or
                                            if
                                            > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe
                                            a
                                            > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                                            > label. Bah-humbug!
                                            > > Â
                                            > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                                            > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                                            > close by to home. Â
                                            > > Â
                                            > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                            > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                                            > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                            > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song
                                            said,
                                            > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's
                                            gone."
                                            > > Â
                                            > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived
                                            &
                                            > if she really had need of one.
                                            > > Â
                                            > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                            > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                            > > Â
                                            > > Linda
                                            > >
                                            > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                            > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                            > ARCHIVES
                                            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > Â
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > > Hi Linda,
                                            > >
                                            > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                                            > tax records are public?
                                            > >
                                            > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                            > >
                                            > > Lisa
                                            > >
                                            > > lisa.lepore2@
                                            > >
                                            > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                            > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                            > ARCHIVES
                                            > >
                                            > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                                            > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                                            > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                                            > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                            > >
                                            > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                            > adjacent stone?
                                            > >
                                            > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                                            > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark
                                            to
                                            > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                            > her.
                                            > >
                                            > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                                            property
                                            > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                            > >
                                            > > Linda
                                            > >
                                            > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                            > <mjbarnett23@
                                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                            > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                            > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                            > ARCHIVES
                                            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                                            > >
                                            > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                                            > >
                                            > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                            > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                            > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                            > causes large problems in the site.
                                            > >
                                            > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                                            > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                            > offer.
                                            > >
                                            > > Mary
                                            > >
                                            > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                            > wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                            > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can
                                            find
                                            > DODs via the SSDI.
                                            > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                                            > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from
                                            Reference
                                            > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                            > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                                            archived
                                            > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                                            > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                            > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                            > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with
                                            assistance
                                            > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference
                                            material,
                                            > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                            > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a
                                            memorial.
                                            > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                                            > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                            > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                            > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                            > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                            <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                                            > &page=listFaqs
                                            > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                                            > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                            > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                                            individual's
                                            > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                                            > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published
                                            in
                                            > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                                            > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                                            > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                                            > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                                            > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                                            11,
                                            > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                                            > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                            > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating
                                            the
                                            > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                                            > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                                            > photo),
                                            > > as
                                            > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                                            to
                                            > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                                            > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                            > record.
                                            > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                            > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                                            > that copyright.
                                            > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                            > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                            > printed.Â
                                            > > > Linda
                                            > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                            > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                            > ARCHIVES
                                            > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
                                            > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                                            > > >
                                            > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                                            > > >
                                            > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                                            > > >
                                            > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                                            and
                                            > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials
                                            I
                                            > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Mary



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                                          • Lisa Lepore
                                            Mary, No, I’m sorry. I’ve lost my mind. Barbour is for Connecticut and I was looking for some information there for someone else. A similar set of
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                                              Mary, No, I’m sorry. I’ve lost my mind. Barbour is for Connecticut and I
                                              was looking for some information there for someone else.



                                              A similar set of records for RI would be Arnold. In addition to the grave
                                              records Arnold used church records and newspaper listings.



                                              I mentioned them in my other message.



                                              Sorry for the confusion.



                                              Lisa





                                              From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                              Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                              Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:41 PM
                                              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





                                              Lisa,

                                              You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for
                                              Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They
                                              are related but not of the family I am searching for.

                                              If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.

                                              Mary

                                              --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              , "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds
                                              books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the
                                              Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the
                                              Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my
                                              missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage
                                              date.
                                              >
                                              > Thanks again,
                                              >
                                              > Mary
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@>
                                              wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson
                                              in
                                              > > there. I don't know your
                                              > >
                                              > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > They are online at ancestry.com
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but
                                              I
                                              > > can't get the site to download the files.
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Lisa
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              ] On
                                              > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
                                              > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                                              > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                              > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                              ARCHIVES
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Hi to all,
                                              > >
                                              > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                                              Ancestry
                                              > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                              > >
                                              > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                                              have
                                              > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                              > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                                              children
                                              > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over
                                              10
                                              > > etc etc and the same with the females.
                                              > >
                                              > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in
                                              the
                                              > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my
                                              gr
                                              > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                              > > 1844.
                                              > >
                                              > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                                              does
                                              > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                                              > >
                                              > > Mary
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Lisa,
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why
                                              they
                                              > > wouldn't be.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                              > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/
                                              my
                                              > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol
                                              to
                                              > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                              > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                              > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a
                                              truck,
                                              > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                              > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came
                                              to
                                              > > your doorstep.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                              > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my
                                              Mom
                                              > > got a job.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly
                                              snooker
                                              > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usualÂ
                                              but
                                              > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                              > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                              > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even
                                              close
                                              > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout
                                              person &
                                              > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                                              some
                                              > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                                              lot
                                              > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                                              get
                                              > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                                              no
                                              > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question
                                              and is
                                              > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor countryÂ
                                              or if
                                              > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                                              maybe a
                                              > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                                              > > label. Bah-humbug!
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                                              of
                                              > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                                              > > close by to home. Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                              > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China &
                                              elsewhere
                                              > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                              > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song
                                              said,
                                              > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's
                                              gone."
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she
                                              lived &
                                              > > if she really had need of one.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                              > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Linda
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                              > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                              OBITUARY
                                              > > ARCHIVES
                                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Hi Linda,
                                              > > >
                                              > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if
                                              vehicle
                                              > > tax records are public?
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Lisa
                                              > > >
                                              > > > lisa.lepore2@
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                              > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                              OBITUARY
                                              > > ARCHIVES
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for
                                              the
                                              > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence
                                              City
                                              > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see
                                              if
                                              > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                              > > adjacent stone?
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the
                                              the
                                              > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr
                                              mark to
                                              > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                              > > her.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                                              property
                                              > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Linda
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                              > > <mjbarnett23@
                                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                              > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                              > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                              > > ARCHIVES
                                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                              > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                              > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                              > > causes large problems in the site.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about
                                              the
                                              > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                              > > offer.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Mary
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin
                                              <miyukichan0987@>
                                              > > wrote:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                              > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can
                                              find
                                              > > DODs via the SSDI.
                                              > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then
                                              request
                                              > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from
                                              Reference
                                              > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                              > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                                              archived
                                              > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for
                                              &
                                              > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                              > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                              > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with
                                              assistance
                                              > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference
                                              material,
                                              > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                              > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a
                                              memorial.
                                              > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still
                                              alive.
                                              > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                              > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                              > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                              > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                              <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                                              > &page=listFaqs
                                              > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                                              > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                              > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                                              individual's
                                              > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so
                                              or
                                              > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were
                                              published in
                                              > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                                              > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                                              > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list
                                              the
                                              > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                                              > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                                              11,
                                              > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives
                                              in
                                              > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                              > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating
                                              the
                                              > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please
                                              do
                                              > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took
                                              the
                                              > > photo),
                                              > > > as
                                              > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                                              to
                                              > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records.
                                              Similarly,
                                              > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                              > > record.
                                              > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                              > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company
                                              owns
                                              > > that copyright.
                                              > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                              > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                              > > printed.Â
                                              > > > > Linda
                                              > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                              > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                              > > ARCHIVES
                                              > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                              > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her
                                              husband
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                                              and
                                              > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                                              her.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the
                                              memorials I
                                              > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Mary
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                                              > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                                              > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                                              > > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                                              > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
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                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > From: Stefanie
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > > >
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                                              OBITUARY
                                              > > ARCHIVES
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                                              > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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                                            • Linda Peloquin
                                              Hi Mary,   I can see how this can be so frustrating.  Maybe as the LDS gets more on line something will turn up.   My own elusive ancestor hunt is for one
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                                                Hi Mary,
                                                 
                                                I can see how this can be so frustrating.  Maybe as the LDS gets more on line something will turn up.
                                                 
                                                My own elusive ancestor hunt is for one Johannes DeBow/DeBoog of /New Amsterdam/Manhattan said to be a baker & father of my ancestor Gerrit DeBow. 
                                                 
                                                I've got fairly good documentation from arrival in 1649 of the family up to Johannes and from Gerrit forward but all I can ever find on Gerrit's father Johannes is mentions in old histories that he was a baker in NYC/Manhattan & he was Garrit's father.  Nothing else.
                                                 
                                                So, if it makes you feel somewhat better, you've got company & I'm sure I'm not the only one making the frustration trip with you.
                                                 
                                                Linda

                                                --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:


                                                From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                                                Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                                To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 3:15 PM



                                                 





                                                Hi Linda,

                                                I just was getting my information ready for Monday. I am going back to Central Falls as that was where I made contact the first time with this line and have gone back only once to continue the search for the famous will of Randolph that proved the connection.

                                                I never felt I followed thru enough there. One thing about there, they don't help you which is alright, but they don't bother either.
                                                I have gone through the Rehoboth Vital records, there were a few Jillsons, not mine of course.

                                                As far as Attleboro, I started there first, they had nothing on Jillson at least that's what they told me. They did the research, funny I don't remember the specifics, but the poor woman tried so hard.

                                                I have gone through online records prior to 1850 for every area I can think of with multiple different spellings. I keep going back to those old records because marriage and births of children occurred in that time frame.

                                                More than likely it will be a spelling transcription error. I found Luke today in one Census last name spelled Tillson. When I looked the J could have been taken for a T.

                                                Thanks for all you are doing for me.

                                                See my post on Oakland Grove Cemetery. Same old story.

                                                Mary

                                                --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
                                                >
                                                > Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.
                                                >  
                                                > When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.
                                                >  
                                                > I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that  portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield.  All I have is a  History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.
                                                >  
                                                > The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.
                                                >  
                                                > 3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth.   Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase.   In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.
                                                >  
                                                > 1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.
                                                >  
                                                > 1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore"  being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland. 
                                                >  
                                                > There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.
                                                >  
                                                > At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked.  Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket?  How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?
                                                >  
                                                > Linda
                                                >  
                                                >
                                                > --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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                                                > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                                                > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                > Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 1:38 PM
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                                                > Sadly None are mine.
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                                                > Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.
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                                                > Thanks to all
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                                                > Mary
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                                                > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@ wrote:
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                                                > > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.
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                                                > > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                                > > If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.
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                                                > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                                > > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                                > > > Mary
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                                                > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                                > > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
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                                                > > > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
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                                                > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
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                                                > > > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
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                                                > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                                > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                                                > > > > Hi to all,
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                                                > > > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
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                                                > > > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
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                                                > > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
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                                                > > > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
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                                                > > > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
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                                                > > > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
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                                                > > > > etc etc and the same with the females.
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                                                > > > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
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                                                > > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
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                                                > > > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
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                                                > > > > 1844.
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                                                > > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
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                                                > > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
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                                                > > > > Mary
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                                                > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                                > > > > > Lisa,
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                                                > > > > > Â
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                                                > > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
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                                                > > > > wouldn't be.
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                                                > > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
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                                                > > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
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                                                > > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
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                                                > > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
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                                                > > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                                > > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                                > > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
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                                                > > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
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                                                > > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                                > > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                                > > > > your doorstep.
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                                                > > > > > Â
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                                                > > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                                > > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                                > > > > got a job.
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                                                > > > > > Â
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                                                > > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                                > > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                                > > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                                > > > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
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                                                > > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
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                                                > > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                                > > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                                > > > > > Â
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                                                > > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                                > > > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
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                                                > > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                                > > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                                > > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
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                                                > > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                                > > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                                > > > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
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                                                > > > > label. Bah-humbug!
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                                                > > > > > Â
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                                                > > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                                > > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
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                                                > > > > close by to home. Â
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                                                > > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                                > > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
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                                                > > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                                > > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
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                                                > > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                                                > > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
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                                                > > > > if she really had need of one.
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                                                > > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                                > > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                                > > > > > Linda
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                                                > > > > >
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                                                > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                                > > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                                > > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                                                > > > > > Hi Linda,
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                                                > > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
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                                                > > > > tax records are public?
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                                                > > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                                                > > > > > Lisa
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                                                > > > > > lisa.lepore2@
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                                                > > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                                > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                                > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                > > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                                > > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                                > > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                                > > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                                > > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                                > > > > adjacent stone?
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                                                > > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                                > > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                                > > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                                > > > > her.
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                                                > > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                                > > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                                > > > > > Linda
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                                                > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
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                                                > > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                                > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                                > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                                > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                                > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                                > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
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                                                > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                                > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                                > > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                                > > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
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                                                > > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
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                                                > > > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                                > > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                                > > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
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                                                > > > > offer.
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                                                > > > > > Mary
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                                                > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                                > > > > wrote:
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                                                > > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                                > > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                                > > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                                > > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                                > > > > an obitÃÆ'‚ search &ÃÆ'‚ copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                                > > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. ÃÆ'‚
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                                                > > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                                > > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                                > > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                                > > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                                > > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
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                                                > > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                                > > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
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                                                > > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
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                                                > > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                                > > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                                > > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                                > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                                > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
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                                                > > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
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                                                > > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                                > > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                                > > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
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                                                > > > > you are the author of the obituary.ÃÆ'‚ Some obituaries that were published in
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                                                > > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
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                                                > > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
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                                                > > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
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                                                > > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
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                                                > > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
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                                                > > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
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                                                > > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
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                                                > > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
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                                                > > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published.ÃÆ'‚ Please do
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                                                > > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                                                > > > > photo),
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                                                > > > > > as
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                                                > > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                                > > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
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                                                > > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
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                                                > > > > record.
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                                                > > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
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                                                > > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
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                                                > > > > that copyright.
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                                                > > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
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                                                > > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
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                                                > > > > printed.ÃÆ'‚
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                                                > > > > > > Linda
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                                                > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                                > > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
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                                                > > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                                > > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                                > > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                                > > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                                                > > > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                                                > > > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                                                > > > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
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                                                > > > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                                                > > > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                                                > > > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                                                > > > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                                                > > > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
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                                                > > > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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                                                > > > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                                                > > > > > > Mary
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                                                > > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                                                > > > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
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                                                > > > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
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                                                > > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                                                > > > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
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                                                > > > > find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                                                > > > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                                                > > > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
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                                                > > > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                                                > > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                                > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                                > > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                > > > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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