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  • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
    Thanks for your thoughts Linda, I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset
    Message 1 of 29 , Mar 14, 2013
      Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

      I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
      living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

      Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

      Mary

      --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
      >
      > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
      > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library.  
      > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
      > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
      > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
      > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89
      > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
      > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo), as
      > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
      > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
      > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed. 
      > Linda
      > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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      > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
      > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
      > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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      > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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      > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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      > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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      > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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      > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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      > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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      > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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      > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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      > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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      > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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      > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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    • Linda Peloquin
      Well Mary, then I m sure you ve also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories
      Message 2 of 29 , Mar 14, 2013
        Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
         
        How about the headstone for William's burial?  Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
         
        I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
         
        Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
         
        Linda

        --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:


        From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
        Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
        To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM



         



        Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

        I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
        living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

        Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

        Mary

        --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
        >
        > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
        > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library.  
        > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
        > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
        > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
        > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89
        > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
        > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
        as
        > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
        > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
        > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed. 
        > Linda
        > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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        > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
        > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
        > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
        > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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        > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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        > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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        > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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        > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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        > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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        > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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        > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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        > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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        > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
        >
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        > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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        > Mary
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        > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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        > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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        > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
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        > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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      • Lisa Lepore
        A while back I was helping someone named Jen with Blanche Jillson. Are you helping her also, or are you working independently? If so, I’ll dig her name up
        Message 3 of 29 , Mar 15, 2013
          A while back I was helping someone named Jen with Blanche Jillson. Are you
          helping her also, or

          are you working independently? If so, I’ll dig her name up out of my files.



          One thing I suggested at that time was to see if someone can look at the
          city directories in the library after

          1964 to see if she shows up with either a new address, or a death date which
          are sometimes published in the

          directories.



          Lisa

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          From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
          Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:23 PM
          To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





          Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

          I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
          living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what
          they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes
          large problems in the site.

          Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
          children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
          offer.

          Mary

          --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
          , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
          >
          > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming
          she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via
          the SSDI.
          > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an
          obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
          Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
          > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
          copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
          make a copy for you if an obit was found.
          > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
          original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
          from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
          extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
          deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
          That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
          > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
          > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
          <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
          #89> &page=listFaqs#89
          > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
          > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
          memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
          you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
          1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
          newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
          home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
          newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
          Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
          2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
          the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
          permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
          name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
          NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
          photo), as
          > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
          remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
          you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
          record.
          > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff
          and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that
          copyright.
          > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary
          as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
          > Linda
          > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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          > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
          > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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          > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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          > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
          >
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          >
          > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
          >
          > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
          >
          > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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          > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
          >
          > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
          they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
          >
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          > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
          >
          > So anything is a shot in the dark.
          >
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          > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
          >
          > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
          have made on Find a Grave for family members.
          >
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          > Thank you for your kind offer though.
          >
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          > Mary
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          > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
          >
          > >
          >
          > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much
          for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
          http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
          >
          > >
          >
          > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find
          links to all states and counties in the USA
          >
          > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
          >
          > >
          >
          > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
          unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
          >
          > >
          >
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          > > From: Stefanie
          >
          > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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          > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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        • Lisa Lepore
          Hi Linda, You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public? Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but
          Message 4 of 29 , Mar 15, 2013
            Hi Linda,



            You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?



            Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.



            Lisa

            lisa.lepore2@...



            From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
            Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
            To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





            Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

            How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?

            I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.

            Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.

            Linda

            --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

            From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
            Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
            To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
            Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM



            Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

            I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
            living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

            Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

            Mary

            --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
            >
            > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
            > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
            > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
            > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
            > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
            > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
            > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
            > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
            as
            > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
            > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
            > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
            > Linda
            > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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            > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
            > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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            > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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            > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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            > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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            > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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            > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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            > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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            > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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            > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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            > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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            > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
            >
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            > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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            > Mary
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            > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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            > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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          • Linda Peloquin
            Lisa,   Good question although they are a public record so I don t see why they wouldn t be.   I don t know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
            Message 5 of 29 , Mar 16, 2013
              Lisa,
               
              Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
               
              I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
               
              RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
               
              In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
               
              It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
               
              What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
               
              And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
               
              I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
               
              Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
               
              I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
               
              At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
               
              Linda

              --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:


              From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
              Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM



               



              Hi Linda,

              You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?

              Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

              Lisa

              lisa.lepore2@...

              From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
              Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

              Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

              How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?

              I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.

              Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.

              Linda

              --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

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              Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
              Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

              Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

              I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
              living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

              Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

              Mary

              --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
              >
              > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
              > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
              > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
              > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
              > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
              > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
              > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
              > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
              as
              > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
              > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
              > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
              > Linda
              > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
              >
              > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
              > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
              > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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              > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
              >
              >
              >
              > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
              >
              > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
              >
              > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
              >
              >
              >
              > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
              >
              > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
              >
              >
              >
              > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
              >
              > So anything is a shot in the dark.
              >
              >
              >
              > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
              >
              > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
              >
              >
              >
              > Thank you for your kind offer though.
              >
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              >
              > Mary
              >
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              >
              > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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              > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
              >
              > >
              >
              > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
              >
              > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
              >
              > >
              >
              > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
              >
              > >
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              > > From: Stefanie
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              > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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            • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
              Hi to all, Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated. For over 10 years
              Message 6 of 29 , Mar 16, 2013
                Hi to all,

                Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.

                They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                1844.

                I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                Mary

                --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
                >
                > Lisa,
                >  
                > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
                >  
                > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
                >  
                > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
                >  
                > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
                >  
                > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
                >  
                > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
                >  
                > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
                >  
                > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
                >  
                > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                >  
                > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
                >  
                > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                >  
                > Linda
                >
                > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                >
                >
                > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
                > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                >
                >
                >
                >  
                >
                >
                >
                > Hi Linda,
                >
                > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
                >
                > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                >
                > Lisa
                >
                > lisa.lepore2@...
                >
                > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                >
                > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                >
                > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
                >
                > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
                >
                > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                >
                > Linda
                >
                > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                >
                > From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                >
                > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                >
                > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
                >
                > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
                >
                > Mary
                >
                > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                > >
                > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
                > as
                > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
                > > Linda
                > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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              • Lisa Lepore
                Probably a long shot on Blanche, but it did make me wonder about the car tax records. There were a lot more busses & routes back then, and many women didn’t
                Message 7 of 29 , Mar 16, 2013
                  Probably a long shot on Blanche, but it did make me wonder about the car tax records.

                  There were a lot more busses & routes back then, and many women didn’t drive let alone own a car.



                  My mother & grandmothers all drove, but my husband’s mother and grandmothers did not.

                  We had 2 cars also because we lived in the burbs too, and later on, my mother worked as well.

                  I used to take the bus a lot during the 70’s, though.



                  Now I live in the sticks. You couldn’t function here without a car. We don’t have a grocery store

                  or even a pharmacy in my town. One gas station, a post office, town hall & library.



                  I don’t know what has been searched for Blanche, but the best option is the city directories after

                  1964, and the funeral homes that handled the services for the other family members. The cemetery

                  is tough because almost all of them need the date of death to find anything. I may have suggested this

                  before, but she might be with her parents or brothers & sisters if she had no family.



                  Lisa









                  From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                  Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:08 PM
                  To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





                  Lisa,

                  Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.

                  I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.

                  RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.

                  In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc. You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.

                  It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.

                  What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll.

                  And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label. Bah-humbug!

                  I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.

                  Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce. Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."

                  I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.

                  At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.

                  Linda

                  --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@... <mailto:lisa.lepore2%40gmail.com> > wrote:

                  From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@... <mailto:lisa.lepore2%40gmail.com> >
                  Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                  To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                  Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM



                  Hi Linda,

                  You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?

                  Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

                  Lisa

                  lisa.lepore2@... <mailto:lisa.lepore2%40gmail.com>

                  From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                  Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

                  Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

                  How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?

                  I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.

                  Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.

                  Linda

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                  Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                  To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                  Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

                  Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

                  I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                  living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.

                  Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.

                  Mary

                  --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
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                  > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                  > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                  > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                  > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                  > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                  > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                  > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                  > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
                  as
                  > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                  > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                  > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
                  > Linda
                  > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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                  > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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                  > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                  > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                  > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                  > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                • Linda Peloquin
                  Hi Mary,   Well, that early on it could well be that no municipal issuance or recording of BMD was required.    If I understand it, recording BMD was left
                  Message 8 of 29 , Mar 16, 2013
                    Hi Mary,
                     
                    Well, that early on it could well be that no municipal issuance or recording of BMD was required. 
                     
                    If I understand it, recording BMD was left sole to the discretion of the municipalities whether they wanted to do it or not.  Ken Carlson, dir. of  RI Archives would probably be your go to man for an ans.

                    Your only options for that era might be church christening records or family bible entries of BMD but those bibles are darn hard to come by. 
                     
                    Maybe the local historic society or RI Historic Society Library might have some in their collections but then you would still need the bible to be from your Jillson family or a close branch who might feel the need to record such events.  They might also be able to tell you if there was a small local broadside/newspaper of the time where local events such a family losing a child to death might be mentioned and if any copies or transcripts exist & where.
                     
                    Boy, you really have some stealthy folks you hunt for.
                     
                    Linda
                     
                     

                    --- On Sat, 3/16/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:


                    From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                    Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 5:51 PM



                     





                    Hi to all,

                    Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                    For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.

                    They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                    1844.

                    I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                    Mary

                    --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Lisa,
                    >  
                    > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
                    >  
                    > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
                    >  
                    > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
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                    > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
                    >  
                    > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
                    >  
                    > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
                    >  
                    > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
                    >  
                    > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
                    >  
                    > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                    >  
                    > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
                    >  
                    > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                    >  
                    > Linda
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                    > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
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                    > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
                    > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                    > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                    > Hi Linda,
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                    > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
                    >
                    > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                    > Lisa
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                    > lisa.lepore2@...
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                    > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                    > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                    > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                    > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                    > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                    > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
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                    > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
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                    > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                    >
                    > Linda
                    >
                    > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                    > From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                    > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                    > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                    >
                    > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                    > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
                    >
                    > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
                    >
                    > Mary
                    >
                    > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                    > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                    > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                    > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                    > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                    > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                    > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                    > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                    photo),
                    > as
                    > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                    > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                    > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
                    > > Linda
                    > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                    > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                    > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                    > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                    > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                    > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                    > >
                    > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                    > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                    > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                    > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                    > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                    > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                    > >
                    > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                    > >
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                    > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                    > >
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                    > > Mary
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                    > >
                    > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                    > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                    > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                    > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                    > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                    Well, of course, I didn t know I had them till about 8years ago. Being a rookie or somewhat of one, and the names being spelled every which way from Sunday,
                    Message 9 of 29 , Mar 16, 2013
                      Well, of course, I didn't know I had them till about 8years ago.
                      Being a rookie or somewhat of one, and the names being spelled every which way from Sunday, and all the fibbing and messing with dates marriage and children by my grandfather, it's wonder I have what I have. It's the help of others and perseverance that has picked the bones dry.

                      Ken has not been able to come up with any of the family in the archives except my gr gr grandfather Randolph and his family. He has tried to find things for me so often. No luck.

                      I have to remember also that what we now know as Woonsocket near where the original homestead was on Mendon Rd Woonsocket was at one time all Cumberland.

                      In fact in Luke's father's will Nathaniel talks about the homestead and another house across the street needing to be cared for by others as Luke and his brother Jarvis were under age and couldn't inherit.

                      I know for sure Jarvis is buried in the cemetery behind the second house called Jillson Lot and strongly suspect that Luke and Elizabeth are there too with field stone markers. We will never know that's for sure. Both Luke and Elizabeth died in their 30's whereas Jarvis married twice and lived to be 84 yrs old. The homestead and land destroyed to build condos, house moved to southern RI.

                      Mary


                      --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Hi Mary,
                      >  
                      > Well, that early on it could well be that no municipal issuance or recording of BMD was required. 
                      >  
                      > If I understand it, recording BMD was left sole to the discretion of the municipalities whether they wanted to do it or not.  Ken Carlson, dir. of  RI Archives would probably be your go to man for an ans.
                      >
                      > Your only options for that era might be church christening records or family bible entries of BMD but those bibles are darn hard to come by. 
                      >  
                      > Maybe the local historic society or RI Historic Society Library might have some in their collections but then you would still need the bible to be from your Jillson family or a close branch who might feel the need to record such events.  They might also be able to tell you if there was a small local broadside/newspaper of the time where local events such a family losing a child to death might be mentioned and if any copies or transcripts exist & where.
                      >  
                      > Boy, you really have some stealthy folks you hunt for.
                      >  
                      > Linda
                      >  
                      >  
                      >
                      > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                      >
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                      > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                      > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                      > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 5:51 PM
                      >
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                      > Hi to all,
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                      > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
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                      > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                      >
                      > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                      > 1844.
                      >
                      > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                      >
                      > Mary
                      >
                      > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > Lisa,
                      > >  
                      > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
                      > >  
                      > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
                      > >  
                      > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
                      > >  
                      > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
                      > >  
                      > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
                      > >  
                      > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
                      > >  
                      > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
                      > >  
                      > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
                      > >  
                      > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                      > >  
                      > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
                      > >  
                      > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                      > >  
                      > > Linda
                      > >
                      > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                      > >
                      > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                      > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                      > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                      > > Hi Linda,
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                      > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
                      > >
                      > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                      > >
                      > > Lisa
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                      > > lisa.lepore2@
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                      > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                      > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                      > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                      > >
                      > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                      > >
                      > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
                      > >
                      > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
                      > >
                      > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                      > >
                      > > Linda
                      > >
                      > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                      > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                      > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                      > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                      > >
                      > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                      > >
                      > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                      > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
                      > >
                      > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
                      > >
                      > > Mary
                      > >
                      > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                      > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                      > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                      > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                      > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                      > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                      > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                      > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                      > photo),
                      > > as
                      > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                      > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                      > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
                      > > > Linda
                      > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                      > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                      > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                      > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                      > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                      > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                      > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                      > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                      > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                      > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                      > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                      > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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                      > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                      > > > Mary
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                      > > >
                      > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                      > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                      > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                      > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                      > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                      > > > > From: Stefanie
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                      > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                      > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                    • Quiche
                      Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After a
                      Message 10 of 29 , Mar 21, 2013
                        Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I finally had a realization.

                        If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think the towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding the records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode Island and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.

                        Lorraine

                        --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Hi to all,
                        >
                        > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                        >
                        > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                        >
                        > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                        > 1844.
                        >
                        > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                        >
                        > Mary
                        >
                        > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > Lisa,
                        > >  
                        > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they wouldn't be.
                        > >  
                        > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one. 
                        > >  
                        > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot more service.  I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to visit her older brother.  My Mom & I too, would go all over bus. 
                        > >  
                        > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe & clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck, milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.   You name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to your doorstep.
                        > >  
                        > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here, that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom got a job.
                        > >  
                        > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out & bagging, too.  More profit for them I guess because I don't see them offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate,  or even close to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person & a bagger on the payroll. 
                        > >  
                        > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the label.  Bah-humbug!
                        > >  
                        > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress.  There were a lot of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied close by to home.  
                        > >  
                        > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the essentials in meat, dairy & produce.   Like the Joni Mitchell song said, "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                        > >  
                        > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived & if she really had need of one.
                        > >  
                        > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                        > >  
                        > > Linda
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                        > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                        > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                        > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                        > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                        > >
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                        > > Hi Linda,
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                        > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle tax records are public?
                        > >
                        > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                        > >
                        > > Lisa
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                        > > lisa.lepore2@
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                        > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                        > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                        > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                        > >
                        > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                        > >
                        > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an adjacent stone?
                        > >
                        > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find her.
                        > >
                        > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                        > >
                        > > Linda
                        > >
                        > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                        > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                        > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                        > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                        > >
                        > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                        > >
                        > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                        > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It causes large problems in the site.
                        > >
                        > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to offer.
                        > >
                        > > Mary
                        > >
                        > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find DODs via the SSDI.
                        > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                        > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                        > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material, extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial. That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                        > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                        > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                        > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                        > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo),
                        > > as
                        > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.
                        > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns that copyright.
                        > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is printed.Â
                        > > > Linda
                        > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                        > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                        > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                        > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                        > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                        > > >
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                        > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                        > > >
                        > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                        > > >
                        > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                        > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                        > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                        > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                        > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                        > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                        > > >
                        > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                        > > >
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                        > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                        > > >
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                        > > > Mary
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                        > > >
                        > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                        > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                        > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                        > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                        > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                        > > > > From: Stefanie
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                        > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                      • Lisa Lepore
                        Registration of records wasn’t required until at least the mid 1800’s, and it was voluntary when it first started. People had to pay to register these
                        Message 11 of 29 , Mar 21, 2013
                          Registration of records wasn’t required until at least the mid 1800’s, and
                          it was voluntary when it first started.

                          People had to pay to register these events so it would make sense that poor
                          people were less likely to do this.

                          Since it was voluntary, the town had no reason to seek them out.



                          Some towns did a good job of recording events and others did not.



                          In this early time period you could try to find church records, or family
                          bibles, or cemetery records



                          I’m guessing you already looked at the Barbour records?



                          Lisa







                          From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                          Behalf Of Quiche
                          Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:06 PM
                          To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





                          Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people
                          during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After
                          a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no
                          vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I
                          finally had a realization.

                          If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think the
                          towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the
                          community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to
                          these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding the
                          records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode Island
                          and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.

                          Lorraine

                          --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          , "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Hi to all,
                          >
                          > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                          Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                          >
                          > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                          have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson
                          and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                          children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males
                          over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                          >
                          > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                          censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                          great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                          > 1844.
                          >
                          > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                          does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like
                          dancing!!!!!!!
                          >
                          > Mary
                          >
                          > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                          wrote:
                          > >
                          > > Lisa,
                          > > Â
                          > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                          wouldn't be.
                          > > Â
                          > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                          > > Â
                          > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                          more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                          late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                          visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                          > > Â
                          > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                          everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                          clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                          milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                          name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                          your doorstep.
                          > > Â
                          > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                          that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                          got a job.
                          > > Â
                          > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                          enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                          helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                          bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                          offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                          to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                          a bagger on the payroll.Â
                          > > Â
                          > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                          some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                          lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                          get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                          no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and
                          is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or
                          if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                          maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on
                          the label. Bah-humbug!
                          > > Â
                          > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                          of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                          close by to home. Â
                          > > Â
                          > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                          descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                          and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                          essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                          "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                          > > Â
                          > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived
                          & if she really had need of one.
                          > > Â
                          > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                          especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                          > > Â
                          > > Linda
                          > >
                          > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                          > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          ARCHIVES
                          > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                          > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                          > >
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                          > > Hi Linda,
                          > >
                          > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                          tax records are public?
                          > >
                          > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                          > >
                          > > Lisa
                          > >
                          > > lisa.lepore2@
                          > >
                          > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                          > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                          > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                          > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          ARCHIVES
                          > >
                          > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                          cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                          directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                          any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                          > >
                          > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                          adjacent stone?
                          > >
                          > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                          1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                          come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                          her.
                          > >
                          > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                          property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                          > >
                          > > Linda
                          > >
                          > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                          <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                          > >
                          > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                          <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                          > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          ARCHIVES
                          > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                          > >
                          > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                          > >
                          > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                          > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                          what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                          causes large problems in the site.
                          > >
                          > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                          children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                          offer.
                          > >
                          > > Mary
                          > >
                          > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                          wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                          assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                          DODs via the SSDI.
                          > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                          an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                          Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                          > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                          archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to
                          search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                          > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                          original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                          from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                          extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                          deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                          That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                          > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                          > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                          <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                          <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                          #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                          > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                          > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                          individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper
                          to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were
                          published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general,
                          obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from
                          the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should
                          list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in
                          the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                          11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives
                          in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                          permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                          name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                          NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                          photo),
                          > > as
                          > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                          to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                          you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                          record.
                          > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                          staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                          that copyright.
                          > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                          obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                          printed.Â
                          > > > Linda
                          > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                          > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                          ARCHIVES
                          > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                          > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                          > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                          > > >
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                          > > >
                          > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                          > > >
                          > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                          > > >
                          > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                          > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                          > > >
                          > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                          and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                          her.
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                          > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                          > > >
                          > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                          > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                          > > >
                          > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials
                          I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                          > > >
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                          > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                          > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                          <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                          much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                          http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                          > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                          find links to all states and counties in the USA
                          > > >
                          > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                          > > >
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                          > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                          unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                          > > >
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                          > > > > From: Stefanie
                          > > >
                          > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                          > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                        • Lisa Lepore
                          Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in there. I don’t know your people, so I can’t tell you if it’s them, but do
                          Message 12 of 29 , Mar 21, 2013
                            Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                            there. I don’t know your

                            people, so I can’t tell you if it’s them, but do take a look.



                            They are online at ancestry.com



                            By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                            can’t get the site to download the files.



                            http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/



                            Lisa





                            From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                            Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                            Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                            To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES







                            Hi to all,

                            Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
                            for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                            For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
                            been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                            Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                            are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                            etc etc and the same with the females.

                            They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                            censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                            great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                            1844.

                            I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
                            pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                            Mary

                            --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Lisa,
                            > Â
                            > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                            wouldn't be.
                            > Â
                            > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                            > Â
                            > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                            more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                            late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                            visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                            > Â
                            > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                            everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                            clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                            milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                            name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                            your doorstep.
                            > Â
                            > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                            that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                            got a job.
                            > Â
                            > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                            enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                            helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                            bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                            offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                            to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                            a bagger on the payroll.Â
                            > Â
                            > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
                            massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
                            in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                            to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                            knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
                            jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
                            non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
                            dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                            label. Bah-humbug!
                            > Â
                            > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                            things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                            close by to home. Â
                            > Â
                            > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                            descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                            and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                            essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                            "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                            > Â
                            > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
                            if she really had need of one.
                            > Â
                            > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                            especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                            > Â
                            > Linda
                            >
                            > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                            >
                            >
                            > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@...>
                            > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            ARCHIVES
                            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Â
                            >
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                            >
                            > Hi Linda,
                            >
                            > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                            tax records are public?
                            >
                            > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                            >
                            > Lisa
                            >
                            > lisa.lepore2@...
                            >
                            > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                            > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            ARCHIVES
                            >
                            > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                            cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                            directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                            any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                            >
                            > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                            adjacent stone?
                            >
                            > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                            1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                            come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                            her.
                            >
                            > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
                            tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                            >
                            > Linda
                            >
                            > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                            <mjbarnett23@...
                            <mailto:mjbarnett23@...%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                            <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                            >
                            > From: mjbarnett23@... <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@...
                            <mailto:mjbarnett23@...%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                            <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                            > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                            > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                            >
                            > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                            >
                            > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                            > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                            what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                            causes large problems in the site.
                            >
                            > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                            children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                            offer.
                            >
                            > Mary
                            >
                            > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                            wrote:
                            > >
                            > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                            assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                            DODs via the SSDI.
                            > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                            an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                            Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                            > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
                            copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                            make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                            > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                            original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                            from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                            extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                            deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                            That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                            > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                            > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                            <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                            <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                            #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                            > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                            > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
                            memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                            you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
                            1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                            newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                            home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                            newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                            Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
                            2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                            the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                            permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                            name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                            NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                            photo),
                            > as
                            > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
                            remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                            you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                            record.
                            > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                            staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                            that copyright.
                            > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                            obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                            printed.Â
                            > > Linda
                            > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                            > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            ARCHIVES
                            > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                            > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                            > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                            > >
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                            > >
                            > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                            > >
                            > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                            > >
                            > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                            > >
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                            > >
                            > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                            > >
                            > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
                            they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                            > >
                            > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                            > >
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                            > >
                            > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                            > >
                            > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
                            have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Mary
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                            much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                            http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                            > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                            find links to all states and counties in the USA
                            > >
                            > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                            > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                            unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                            > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            > > > From: Stefanie
                            > >
                            > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                            > >
                            > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > >
                            > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                            ARCHIVES
                            > >
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                            > >
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                          • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                            Hi Lisa, Yes, and this family like all others had many members of varied income levels. Not all can be rich. From what I have learned from my branch they had
                            Message 13 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                              Hi Lisa,

                              Yes, and this family like all others had many members of varied income
                              levels. Not all can be rich. From what I have learned from my branch they had members at many levels. Directs seem to be farmers, and yet Luke the one I am searching was listed in the Jillson book as a mechanic. Obituaries are really hard to locate. Even when my grandfather died in 1937 it was only a one or two line entry about service and burial.

                              Thanks for the information.

                              Mary


                              --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Registration of records wasn't required until at least the mid 1800's, and
                              > it was voluntary when it first started.
                              >
                              > People had to pay to register these events so it would make sense that poor
                              > people were less likely to do this.
                              >
                              > Since it was voluntary, the town had no reason to seek them out.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Some towns did a good job of recording events and others did not.
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > In this early time period you could try to find church records, or family
                              > bibles, or cemetery records
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > I'm guessing you already looked at the Barbour records?
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Lisa
                              >
                              >
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                              >
                              >
                              > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                              > Behalf Of Quiche
                              > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:06 PM
                              > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                              >
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                              >
                              > Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people
                              > during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT. After
                              > a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no
                              > vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I
                              > finally had a realization.
                              >
                              > If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think the
                              > towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the
                              > community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to
                              > these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding the
                              > records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode Island
                              > and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.
                              >
                              > Lorraine
                              >
                              > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > , "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Hi to all,
                              > >
                              > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                              > Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                              > >
                              > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                              > have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson
                              > and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                              > children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males
                              > over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                              > >
                              > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                              > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                              > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                              > > 1844.
                              > >
                              > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                              > does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like
                              > dancing!!!!!!!
                              > >
                              > > Mary
                              > >
                              > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                              > wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Lisa,
                              > > > Â
                              > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                              > wouldn't be.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                              > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                              > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                              > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                              > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                              > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                              > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                              > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                              > your doorstep.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                              > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                              > got a job.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                              > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                              > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                              > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                              > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                              > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                              > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                              > some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                              > lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                              > get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                              > no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and
                              > is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or
                              > if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                              > maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on
                              > the label. Bah-humbug!
                              > > > Â
                              > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                              > of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                              > close by to home. Â
                              > > > Â
                              > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                              > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                              > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                              > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                              > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                              > > > Â
                              > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived
                              > & if she really had need of one.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                              > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                              > > > Â
                              > > > Linda
                              > > >
                              > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                              > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > ARCHIVES
                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              >
                              > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                              > > > Hi Linda,
                              > > >
                              > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                              > tax records are public?
                              > > >
                              > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                              > > >
                              > > > Lisa
                              > > >
                              > > > lisa.lepore2@
                              > > >
                              > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                              > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              >
                              > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > ARCHIVES
                              > > >
                              > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                              > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                              > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                              > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                              > > >
                              > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                              > adjacent stone?
                              > > >
                              > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                              > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                              > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                              > her.
                              > > >
                              > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                              > property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                              > > >
                              > > > Linda
                              > > >
                              > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                              > <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                              > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                              > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > ARCHIVES
                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                              > > >
                              > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                              > > >
                              > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                              > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                              > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                              > causes large problems in the site.
                              > > >
                              > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                              > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                              > offer.
                              > > >
                              > > > Mary
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                              > wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                              > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                              > DODs via the SSDI.
                              > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                              > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                              > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                              > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                              > archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to
                              > search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                              > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                              > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                              > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                              > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                              > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                              > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                              > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                              > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                              > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                              > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                              > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                              > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                              > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                              > individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper
                              > to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were
                              > published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general,
                              > obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from
                              > the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should
                              > list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in
                              > the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                              > 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives
                              > in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                              > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                              > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                              > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                              > photo),
                              > > > as
                              > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                              > to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                              > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                              > record.
                              > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                              > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                              > that copyright.
                              > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                              > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                              > printed.Â
                              > > > > Linda
                              > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                              > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                              > ARCHIVES
                              > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                              > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                              > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                              > > > >
                              > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                              > > > >
                              > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                              > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                              > > > >
                              > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                              > and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                              > her.
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                              > > > >
                              > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                              > > > >
                              > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials
                              > I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                              > > > >
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                              > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                              > > > >
                              > > > > Mary
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                              > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                              > > > > >
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                              > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                              > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                              > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                              > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                              > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                              > > > >
                              > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                              > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                              > > > > > From: Stefanie
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                              > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                            • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                              Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold
                              Message 14 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.

                                Thanks again,

                                Mary


                                --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                                > there. I don't know your
                                >
                                > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > They are online at ancestry.com
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                                > can't get the site to download the files.
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                                >
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                                >
                                > Lisa
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                                >
                                > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                >
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                                >
                                > Hi to all,
                                >
                                > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
                                > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                >
                                > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
                                > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                                > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                                > etc etc and the same with the females.
                                >
                                > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                                > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                                > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                > 1844.
                                >
                                > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
                                > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                                >
                                > Mary
                                >
                                > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Lisa,
                                > > Â
                                > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                                > wouldn't be.
                                > > Â
                                > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                > > Â
                                > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                > > Â
                                > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                                > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                                > your doorstep.
                                > > Â
                                > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                                > got a job.
                                > > Â
                                > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                                > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                                > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                                > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                                > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                > > Â
                                > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
                                > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
                                > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                                > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                                > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
                                > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
                                > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
                                > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                                > label. Bah-humbug!
                                > > Â
                                > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                                > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                                > close by to home. Â
                                > > Â
                                > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                                > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                                > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                                > > Â
                                > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
                                > if she really had need of one.
                                > > Â
                                > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                > > Â
                                > > Linda
                                > >
                                > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                > ARCHIVES
                                > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Â
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Hi Linda,
                                > >
                                > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                                > tax records are public?
                                > >
                                > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                > >
                                > > Lisa
                                > >
                                > > lisa.lepore2@
                                > >
                                > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                > ARCHIVES
                                > >
                                > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                                > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                                > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                                > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                > >
                                > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                > adjacent stone?
                                > >
                                > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                                > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                                > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                > her.
                                > >
                                > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
                                > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                > >
                                > > Linda
                                > >
                                > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                > <mjbarnett23@
                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                                > >
                                > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                > ARCHIVES
                                > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                                > >
                                > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                                > >
                                > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                > causes large problems in the site.
                                > >
                                > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                                > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                > offer.
                                > >
                                > > Mary
                                > >
                                > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                > wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                                > DODs via the SSDI.
                                > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                                > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                                > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
                                > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                                > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                                > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                                > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                                > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                                > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                                > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                                > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
                                > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                                > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
                                > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                                > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                                > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                                > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                                > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
                                > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                                > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                                > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                                > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                                > photo),
                                > > as
                                > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
                                > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                                > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                > record.
                                > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                                > that copyright.
                                > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                > printed.Â
                                > > > Linda
                                > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                > ARCHIVES
                                > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
                                > > >
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                                > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                                > > >
                                > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                                > > >
                                > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                                > > >
                                > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
                                > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                                > > >
                                > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                                > > >
                                > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
                                > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Mary
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                                > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                                > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                                > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                                > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                                > > >
                                > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                                > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                                > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                                > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > > From: Stefanie
                                > > >
                                > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                                > > >
                                > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > > >
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                              • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                                Lisa, You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour s records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are
                                Message 15 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                  Lisa,

                                  You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.

                                  If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.


                                  Mary



                                  --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
                                  >
                                  > Thanks again,
                                  >
                                  > Mary
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                                  > > there. I don't know your
                                  > >
                                  > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > They are online at ancestry.com
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                                  > > can't get the site to download the files.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Lisa
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                  > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
                                  > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                                  > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Hi to all,
                                  > >
                                  > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
                                  > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                  > >
                                  > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
                                  > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                  > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                                  > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                                  > > etc etc and the same with the females.
                                  > >
                                  > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                                  > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                                  > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                  > > 1844.
                                  > >
                                  > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
                                  > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                                  > >
                                  > > Mary
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Lisa,
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                                  > > wouldn't be.
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                  > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                  > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                  > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                  > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                  > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                                  > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                  > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                                  > > your doorstep.
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                  > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
                                  > > got a job.
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                                  > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
                                  > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                  > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                  > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
                                  > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
                                  > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
                                  > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
                                  > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                                  > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                                  > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
                                  > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
                                  > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
                                  > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                                  > > label. Bah-humbug!
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                                  > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                                  > > close by to home. Â
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                  > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                                  > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                  > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
                                  > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
                                  > > if she really had need of one.
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                  > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > > Linda
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                  > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Â
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Hi Linda,
                                  > > >
                                  > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                                  > > tax records are public?
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Lisa
                                  > > >
                                  > > > lisa.lepore2@
                                  > > >
                                  > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                  > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                                  > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                                  > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                                  > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                  > > adjacent stone?
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                                  > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
                                  > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                  > > her.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
                                  > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Linda
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                  > > <mjbarnett23@
                                  > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                  > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                  > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                  > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                  > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                  > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                  > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                  > > causes large problems in the site.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                                  > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                  > > offer.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Mary
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                  > > wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                  > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
                                  > > DODs via the SSDI.
                                  > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                                  > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
                                  > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                  > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
                                  > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                                  > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                  > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                  > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
                                  > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
                                  > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                  > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
                                  > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                                  > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                  > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                  > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                  > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                                  > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                                  > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                  > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
                                  > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                                  > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
                                  > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                                  > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                                  > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                                  > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                                  > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
                                  > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                                  > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                  > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
                                  > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                                  > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                                  > > photo),
                                  > > > as
                                  > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
                                  > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                                  > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                  > > record.
                                  > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                  > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                                  > > that copyright.
                                  > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                  > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                  > > printed.Â
                                  > > > > Linda
                                  > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                  > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                  > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                  > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
                                  > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
                                  > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Mary
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                                  > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                                  > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                                  > > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                                  > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                  > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                  > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                • finnjordan4@...
                                  Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland. On 03/22/13, mjbarnett23@ymail.com wrote: Lisa, You
                                  Message 16 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                    Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.



                                    On 03/22/13, mjbarnett23@... wrote:






























                                    Lisa,



                                    You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.



                                    If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.



                                    Mary



                                    --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:

                                    >

                                    >

                                    >

                                    > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.

                                    >

                                    > Thanks again,

                                    >

                                    > Mary

                                    >

                                    >

                                    > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

                                    > >

                                    > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in

                                    > > there. I don't know your

                                    > >

                                    > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > > They are online at ancestry.com

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I

                                    > > can't get the site to download the files.

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > > Lisa

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On

                                    > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@

                                    > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM

                                    > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                    > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > >

                                    > > Hi to all,

                                    > >

                                    > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry

                                    > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.

                                    > >

                                    > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have

                                    > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and

                                    > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children

                                    > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10

                                    > > etc etc and the same with the females.

                                    > >

                                    > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the

                                    > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr

                                    > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past

                                    > > 1844.

                                    > >

                                    > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does

                                    > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!

                                    > >

                                    > > Mary

                                    > >

                                    > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Lisa,

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they

                                    > > wouldn't be.

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot

                                    > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my

                                    > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to

                                    > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because

                                    > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &

                                    > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,

                                    > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You

                                    > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to

                                    > > your doorstep.

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,

                                    > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom

                                    > > got a job.

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker

                                    > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but

                                    > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &

                                    > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them

                                    > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close

                                    > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &

                                    > > a bagger on the payroll.Â

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some

                                    > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot

                                    > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get

                                    > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no

                                    > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is

                                    > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if

                                    > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a

                                    > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the

                                    > > label. Bah-humbug!

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of

                                    > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied

                                    > > close by to home. Â

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non

                                    > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere

                                    > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the

                                    > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,

                                    > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &

                                    > > if she really had need of one.

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore

                                    > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > > Linda

                                    > > >

                                    > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

                                    > > >

                                    > > >

                                    > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>

                                    > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                    > > ARCHIVES

                                    > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM

                                    > > >

                                    > > >

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Â

                                    > > >

                                    > > >

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Hi Linda,

                                    > > >

                                    > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle

                                    > > tax records are public?

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Lisa

                                    > > >

                                    > > > lisa.lepore2@

                                    > > >

                                    > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin

                                    > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM

                                    > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                    > > ARCHIVES

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the

                                    > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City

                                    > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if

                                    > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

                                    > > >

                                    > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an

                                    > > adjacent stone?

                                    > > >

                                    > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the

                                    > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to

                                    > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find

                                    > > her.

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property

                                    > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Linda

                                    > > >

                                    > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>

                                    > > <mjbarnett23@

                                    > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

                                    > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

                                    > > >

                                    > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@

                                    > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

                                    > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >

                                    > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                    > > ARCHIVES

                                    > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

                                    > > >

                                    > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the

                                    > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is

                                    > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It

                                    > > causes large problems in the site.

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the

                                    > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to

                                    > > offer.

                                    > > >

                                    > > > Mary

                                    > > >

                                    > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>

                                    > > wrote:

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                                    > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children

                                    > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find

                                    > > DODs via the SSDI.

                                    > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request

                                    > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference

                                    > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â

                                    > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived

                                    > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &

                                    > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.

                                    > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the

                                    > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance

                                    > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,

                                    > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the

                                    > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.

                                    > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.

                                    > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:

                                    > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

                                    > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

                                    > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs

                                    > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89

                                    > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?

                                    > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's

                                    > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or

                                    > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in

                                    > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in

                                    > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral

                                    > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the

                                    > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the

                                    > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,

                                    > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in

                                    > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have

                                    > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the

                                    > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do

                                    > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the

                                    > > photo),

                                    > > > as

                                    > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to

                                    > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,

                                    > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial

                                    > > record.

                                    > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper

                                    > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns

                                    > > that copyright.

                                    > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the

                                    > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is

                                    > > printed.Â

                                    > > > > Linda

                                    > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:

                                    > > > >

                                    > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>

                                    > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                    > > ARCHIVES

                                    > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM

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                                    > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.

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                                    > > > >

                                    > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.

                                    > > > >

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                                    > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger

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                                    > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island

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                                    > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914

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                                    > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband

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                                    > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and

                                    > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.

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                                    > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.

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                                    > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.

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                                    > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries

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                                    > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I

                                    > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.

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                                    > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.

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                                    > > > >

                                    > > > > Mary

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                                    > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:

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                                    > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not

                                    > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link

                                    > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm

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                                    > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will

                                    > > find links to all states and counties in the USA

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                                    > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records

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                                    > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some

                                    > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it

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                                    > > > > > From: Stefanie

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                                    > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM

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                                    > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                    > > > >

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                                  • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                                    Sadly None are mine. Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over. Thanks to all Mary
                                    Message 17 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                      Sadly None are mine.

                                      Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.

                                      Thanks to all

                                      Mary







                                      --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@... wrote:
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                                      > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.
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                                      > On 03/22/13, mjbarnett23@... wrote:
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                                      > Lisa,
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                                      > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                      > If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.
                                      >
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                                      >
                                      > Mary
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                                      >
                                      > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                      > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                      > > Thanks again,
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                                      > > Mary
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                                      > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                      > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
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                                      > > > there. I don't know your
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                                      > > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
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                                      > > > They are online at ancestry.com
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                                      > > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
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                                      > > > can't get the site to download the files.
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                                      > > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
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                                      > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
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                                      > > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
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                                      > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                      > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                      > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                                      > > > Hi to all,
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                                      > > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
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                                      > > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
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                                      > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
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                                      > > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                      >
                                      > > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
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                                      > > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
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                                      > > > etc etc and the same with the females.
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                                      > > >
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                                      > > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                                      >
                                      > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
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                                      > > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
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                                      > > > 1844.
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                                      > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
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                                      > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
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                                      > > >
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                                      > > > Mary
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                                      > > >
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                                      > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      >
                                      > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                      > > > >
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                                      > > > > Lisa,
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                                      > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
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                                      > > > wouldn't be.
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                      >
                                      > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
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                                      > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                      >
                                      > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                      > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                      >
                                      > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
                                      >
                                      > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                      > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                      > > > your doorstep.
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                      > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                      > > > got a job.
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                      > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                      > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                      > > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
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                                      > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
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                                      > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                      > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                      > > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
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                                      > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                      > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                      > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
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                                      > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                      > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                      > > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
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                                      > > > label. Bah-humbug!
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                      > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
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                                      > > > close by to home. Â
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                      > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
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                                      > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                      > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
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                                      > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                                      > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
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                                      > > > if she really had need of one.
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                                      > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                      > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                      > > > > Â
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                                      > > > > Linda
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                                      > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                      > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                      > > > ARCHIVES
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                                      > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                                      > > > > Hi Linda,
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                                      > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
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                                      > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                                      > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                      > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                      > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                      > > > ARCHIVES
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                                      > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                      > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                      > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                      > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                      > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                      > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                      > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                      > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                      > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                      > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                      > > > >
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                                      > > > > Linda
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                                      > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
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                                      > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                      > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                      > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                      > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                      > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                      > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                      > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                      > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                      > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                      > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                      > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                      > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                      > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                      > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                      > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                      > > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                      > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                      > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                      > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                      > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                      > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                      > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                      > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                      > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                      > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                      > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                      > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                      > > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
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                                      > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
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                                      > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
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                                      > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
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                                      > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                      > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
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                                      > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
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                                      > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
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                                      > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
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                                      > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
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                                      > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                      > > > ARCHIVES
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                                      > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                      > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                      > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                      > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                                      > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                      > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                      > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                      > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                      > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                    • Linda Peloquin
                                      Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was
                                      Message 18 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                        Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.
                                         
                                        When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.
                                         
                                        I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that  portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield.  All I have is a  History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.
                                         
                                        The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.
                                         
                                        3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth.   Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase.   In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.
                                         
                                        1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.
                                         
                                        1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore"  being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland. 
                                         
                                        There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.
                                         
                                        At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked.  Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket?  How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?
                                         
                                        Linda
                                         

                                        --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:


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                                        Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                        To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                        Sadly None are mine.

                                        Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.

                                        Thanks to all

                                        Mary

                                        --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@... wrote:
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                                        > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                        > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                        > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                        > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                        > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                        > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
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                                        > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
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                                        > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
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                                        > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                        > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                        >
                                        > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
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                                        > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                        > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                        > > > your doorstep.
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                        > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                        > > > got a job.
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                        > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                        > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                        > > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
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                                        > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
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                                        > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                        > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                        > > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
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                                        > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                        > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                        > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
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                                        > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                        > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                        > > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
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                                        > > > label. Bah-humbug!
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                        > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
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                                        > > > close by to home. Â
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                        > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
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                                        > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                        > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
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                                        > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
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                                        > > > if she really had need of one.
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                                        > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                        > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                        > > > > Â
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                                        > > > > Linda
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                                        > > > >
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                                        > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                        > > > >
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                                        > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                        > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                        > > > ARCHIVES
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                                        > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                                        > > > > Hi Linda,
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                                        > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
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                                        > > > tax records are public?
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                                        > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                                        > > > > Lisa
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                                        > > > > lisa.lepore2@
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                                        > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                        > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                        > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                        > > > ARCHIVES
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                                        > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                        > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                        > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                        > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                        > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                        > > > adjacent stone?
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                                        > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                        > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                        > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                        > > > her.
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                                        > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                        > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                        > > > > Linda
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                                        > > > >
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                                        > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
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                                        > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                        > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                        > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
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                                        > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                        > > > ARCHIVES
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                                        > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                        > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                        > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                        > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
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                                        > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
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                                        > > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                        > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                        > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
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                                        > > > offer.
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                                        > > > > Mary
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                                        > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                        > > > wrote:
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                                        > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                        > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                        > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                        > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                        > > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                        > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
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                                        > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                        > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                        > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                        > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                        > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
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                                        > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                        > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
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                                        > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
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                                        > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                        > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                        > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                        > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                        > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
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                                        > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
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                                        > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                        > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                        > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
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                                        > > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published in
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                                        > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
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                                        > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
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                                        > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
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                                        > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
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                                        > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
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                                        > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
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                                        > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
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                                        > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
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                                        > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
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                                        > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                                        > > > photo),
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                                        > > > > as
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                                        > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                        > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
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                                        > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
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                                        > > > record.
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                                        > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
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                                        > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
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                                        > > > that copyright.
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                                        > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
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                                        > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
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                                        > > > printed.Â
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                                        > > > > > Linda
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                                        > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                        > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
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                                        > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                        > > > ARCHIVES
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                                        > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                        > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                        > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                        > > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                                        > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                                        > > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                                        > > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                                        > > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
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                                        > > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                                        > > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                                        > > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                                        > > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                                        > > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
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                                        > > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
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                                        > > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                                        > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                                        > > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
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                                        > > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
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                                        > > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
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                                        > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                        > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                        > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                        > > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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                                      • mjbarnett23@ymail.com
                                        Hi Linda, I just was getting my information ready for Monday. I am going back to Central Falls as that was where I made contact the first time with this line
                                        Message 19 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                          Hi Linda,

                                          I just was getting my information ready for Monday. I am going back to Central Falls as that was where I made contact the first time with this line and have gone back only once to continue the search for the famous will of Randolph that proved the connection.

                                          I never felt I followed thru enough there. One thing about there, they don't help you which is alright, but they don't bother either.
                                          I have gone through the Rehoboth Vital records, there were a few Jillsons, not mine of course.

                                          As far as Attleboro, I started there first, they had nothing on Jillson at least that's what they told me. They did the research, funny I don't remember the specifics, but the poor woman tried so hard.

                                          I have gone through online records prior to 1850 for every area I can think of with multiple different spellings. I keep going back to those old records because marriage and births of children occurred in that time frame.

                                          More than likely it will be a spelling transcription error. I found Luke today in one Census last name spelled Tillson. When I looked the J could have been taken for a T.

                                          Thanks for all you are doing for me.

                                          See my post on Oakland Grove Cemetery. Same old story.

                                          Mary










                                          --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
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                                          > Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.
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                                          > When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.
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                                          > I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that  portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield.  All I have is a  History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.
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                                          > The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.
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                                          > 3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth.   Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase.   In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.
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                                          > 1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.
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                                          > 1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore"  being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland. 
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                                          > There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.
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                                          > At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked.  Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket?  How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?
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                                          > Linda
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                                          > --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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                                          > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                                          > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                          > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                          > Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 1:38 PM
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                                          > Sadly None are mine.
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                                          > Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.
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                                          > Thanks to all
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                                          > Mary
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                                          > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@ wrote:
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                                          > > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.
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                                          > > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                          > > If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.
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                                          > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                          > > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                          > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                          > > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
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                                          > > > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
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                                          > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
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                                          > > > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
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                                          > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                          > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                          > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
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                                          > > > > Hi to all,
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                                          > > > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto Ancestry
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                                          > > > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
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                                          > > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
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                                          > > > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
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                                          > > > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
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                                          > > > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
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                                          > > > > etc etc and the same with the females.
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                                          > > > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
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                                          > > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
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                                          > > > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
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                                          > > > > 1844.
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                                          > > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
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                                          > > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
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                                          > > > > Mary
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                                          > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                          > > > > > Lisa,
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
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                                          > > > > wouldn't be.
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
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                                          > > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
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                                          > > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
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                                          > > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
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                                          > > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                          > > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                          > > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
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                                          > > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
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                                          > > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                          > > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                          > > > > your doorstep.
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                          > > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                          > > > > got a job.
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                          > > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                          > > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                          > > > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
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                                          > > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
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                                          > > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                          > > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                          > > > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
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                                          > > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                          > > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                          > > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
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                                          > > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                          > > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                          > > > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
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                                          > > > > label. Bah-humbug!
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                          > > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
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                                          > > > > close by to home. Â
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                                          > > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                          > > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
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                                          > > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                          > > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
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                                          > > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
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                                          > > > > if she really had need of one.
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                                          > > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                          > > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                          > > > > > Â
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                                          > > > > > Linda
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                                          > > > > >
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                                          > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                          > > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                          > > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                          > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                          > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                                          > > > > > Hi Linda,
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                                          > > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
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                                          > > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                                          > > > > > Lisa
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                                          > > > > > lisa.lepore2@
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                                          > > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          > >
                                          > > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                          > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                          > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                          > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                          > > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                          > > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                          > > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                          > > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                          > > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                          > > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                          > > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                          > > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                          > > > > her.
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                                          > > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                          > > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                          > > > > > Linda
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                                          > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                          > >
                                          > > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                          > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                          > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                          > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                          > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                          > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
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                                          > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                          > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                          > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                          > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                          > > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                          > > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
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                                          > > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
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                                          > > > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                          > > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                          > > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
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                                          > > > > > Mary
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                                          > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                          > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                          > > > > wrote:
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                                          > > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                          > > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                          > > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                          > > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                          > > > > an obitÃÆ'‚ search &ÃÆ'‚ copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                          > > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. ÃÆ'‚
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                                          > > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                          > > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                          > > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                          > > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                          > > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
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                                          > > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                          > > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
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                                          > > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
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                                          > > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                          > > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                          > > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                          > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                          > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
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                                          > > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
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                                          > > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                          > > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                          > > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
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                                          > > > > you are the author of the obituary.ÃÆ'‚ Some obituaries that were published in
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                                          > > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
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                                          > > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
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                                          > > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
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                                          > > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
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                                          > > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
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                                          > > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
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                                          > > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
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                                          > > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
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                                          > > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published.ÃÆ'‚ Please do
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                                          > > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                                          > > > > photo),
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                                          > > > > > as
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                                          > > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                          > > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
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                                          > > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
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                                          > > > > record.
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                                          > > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
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                                          > > > > > > Linda
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                                          > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                          > > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                          > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                          > > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                          Wickipedia states Woon Falls Village founded in 1820. As a town, Woon was est. 1867 and incorporated in 1888. On 03/22/13, Linda Peloquin wrote: Just wanted to
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                                            Wickipedia states Woon Falls Village founded in 1820. As a town, Woon was est. 1867 and incorporated in 1888.


                                            On 03/22/13, Linda Peloquin wrote:






























                                            Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield. And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.



                                            When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.



                                            I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield. All I have is a History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.



                                            The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.



                                            3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth. Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase. In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.



                                            1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.



                                            1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore" being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland.



                                            There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.



                                            At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked. Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket? How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?



                                            Linda





                                            --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:



                                            From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>

                                            Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES

                                            To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

                                            Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 1:38 PM







                                            Sadly None are mine.



                                            Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.



                                            Thanks to all



                                            Mary



                                            --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@... wrote:

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                                            > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.

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                                            > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.

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                                            > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.

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                                            > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

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                                            > > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in

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                                            > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have

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                                            > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:

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                                            > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.�?

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                                            > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot

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                                            > > > more service.�? I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my

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                                            > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to

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                                            > > > visit her older brother.�? My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.�?

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                                            > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because

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                                            > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some

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                                            > > > in�? the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc.�? to get

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                                            > > > to the door�? & then trudge through a huge box store to shop�? that has�? no

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                                            > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country�? or if

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                                            > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non

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                                            > > > if she really had need of one.

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                                            > > > > �?

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                                            > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore

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                                            > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.

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                                            > > > > �?

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                                            > > > > Linda

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                                            > > > >

                                            >

                                            > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > >

                                            >

                                            > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>

                                            >

                                            > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

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                                            > > > ARCHIVES

                                            >

                                            > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM

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                                            > > > > �?

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                                            > > > > Hi Linda,

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle

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                                            > > > tax records are public?

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > Lisa

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > lisa.lepore2@

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                                            > > > >

                                            >

                                            > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                            >

                                            > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                            >

                                            > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin

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                                            > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM

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                                            > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

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                                            > > > ARCHIVES

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the

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                                            > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City

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                                            > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if

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                                            > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.

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                                            > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an

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                                            > > > adjacent stone?

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                                            > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the

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                                            > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to

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                                            > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find

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                                            > > > her.

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                                            > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property

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                                            > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > Linda

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                                            > > > >

                                            >

                                            > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>

                                            >

                                            > > > <mjbarnett23@

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                                            > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

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                                            > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@

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                                            > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>

                                            >

                                            > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >

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                                            > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

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                                            > > > ARCHIVES

                                            >

                                            > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the

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                                            > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is

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                                            > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It

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                                            > > > causes large problems in the site.

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the

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                                            > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to

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                                            > > > offer.

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                                            > > > >

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                                            > > > > Mary

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                                            > > > >

                                            >

                                            > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

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                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                            >

                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>

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                                            > > > wrote:

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                                            > > > > >

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                                            > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children

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                                            > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find

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                                            > > > DODs via the SSDI.

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                                            > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request

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                                            > > > an obit�?�? search &�?�? copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference

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                                            > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. �?�?

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                                            > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived

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                                            > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &

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                                            > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.

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                                            > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the

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                                            > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance

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                                            > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,

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                                            > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the

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                                            > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.

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                                            > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.

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                                            > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:

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                                            > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

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                                            > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries

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                                            > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs

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                                            > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89

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                                            > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?

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                                            > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's

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                                            > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or

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                                            > > > you are the author of the obituary.�?�? Some obituaries that were published in

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                                            > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in

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                                            > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral

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                                            > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the

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                                            > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the

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                                            > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,

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                                            > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in

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                                            > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have

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                                            > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the

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                                            > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published.�?�? Please do

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                                            > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the

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                                            > > > photo),

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                                            > > > > as

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                                            > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to

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                                            > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,

                                            >

                                            > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial

                                            >

                                            > > > record.

                                            >

                                            > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper

                                            >

                                            > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns

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                                            > > > that copyright.

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                                            > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the

                                            >

                                            > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is

                                            >

                                            > > > printed.�?�?

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                                            > > > > > Linda

                                            >

                                            > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:

                                            >

                                            > > > > >

                                            >

                                            > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>

                                            >

                                            > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

                                            >

                                            > > > ARCHIVES

                                            >

                                            > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                            >

                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM

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                                            > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.

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                                            > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.

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                                            > > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger

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                                            > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island

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                                            > > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914

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                                            > > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband

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                                            > > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and

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                                            > > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.

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                                            > > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.

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                                            > > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.

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                                            > > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries

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                                            > > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I

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                                            > > > have made on Find a Grave for family members.

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                                            > > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.

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                                            > > > > > Mary

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                                            > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

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                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:

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                                            > > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not

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                                            > > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link

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                                            > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm

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                                            > > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will

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                                            > > > find links to all states and counties in the USA

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                                            > > > > >

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                                            > > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records

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                                            > > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some

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                                            > > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it

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                                            > > > > > > From: Stefanie

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                                            > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM

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                                            > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com

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                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                            > > > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY

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                                            > > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some

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                                            > > > > > > subscription sites where I can look.

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                                          • Lisa Lepore
                                            If you had any that lived past 1936 that are missing a birth record you might try looking for a delayed record. They would have needed a birth certificate if
                                            Message 21 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                              If you had any that lived past 1936 that are missing a birth record you
                                              might try looking for a delayed record.

                                              They would have needed a birth certificate if they signed up for social
                                              security.



                                              Lisa





                                              From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                              Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                              Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:34 AM
                                              To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





                                              Hi Lisa,

                                              Yes, and this family like all others had many members of varied income
                                              levels. Not all can be rich. From what I have learned from my branch they
                                              had members at many levels. Directs seem to be farmers, and yet Luke the one
                                              I am searching was listed in the Jillson book as a mechanic. Obituaries are
                                              really hard to locate. Even when my grandfather died in 1937 it was only a
                                              one or two line entry about service and burial.

                                              Thanks for the information.

                                              Mary

                                              --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              , "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              > Registration of records wasn't required until at least the mid 1800's, and
                                              > it was voluntary when it first started.
                                              >
                                              > People had to pay to register these events so it would make sense that
                                              poor
                                              > people were less likely to do this.
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                                              > Since it was voluntary, the town had no reason to seek them out.
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                                              > Some towns did a good job of recording events and others did not.
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                                              > In this early time period you could try to find church records, or family
                                              > bibles, or cemetery records
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                                              > I'm guessing you already looked at the Barbour records?
                                              >
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                                              >
                                              > Lisa
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                                              >
                                              > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              ] On
                                              > Behalf Of Quiche
                                              > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 1:06 PM
                                              > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                              ARCHIVES
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                                              > Mary, a lot of times there are just no vital records for certain people
                                              > during the early 1800s. I often find that to be the case in RI and CT.
                                              After
                                              > a research expedition to Chaplin, CT this winter, where I could find no
                                              > vitals for people who I definitely knew lived there from census records, I
                                              > finally had a realization.
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                                              > If the people were shifting farm laborers or mill workers, I don't think
                                              the
                                              > towns wanted to keep records for them. They weren't considered part of the
                                              > community and the town did not want to be responsible for poor relief to
                                              > these people. Just a theory - but after innumerable times of not finding
                                              the
                                              > records I thought that would be there in town halls throughout Rhode
                                              Island
                                              > and Connecticut, that is what I am concluding.
                                              >
                                              > Lorraine
                                              >
                                              > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > , "mjbarnett23@" <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Hi to all,
                                              > >
                                              > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                                              > Ancestry for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                              > >
                                              > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                                              > have been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson
                                              > and Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                                              > children are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males
                                              > over 10 etc etc and the same with the females.
                                              > >
                                              > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in
                                              the
                                              > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                                              > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                              > > 1844.
                                              > >
                                              > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                                              > does pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like
                                              > dancing!!!!!!!
                                              > >
                                              > > Mary
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                              > wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Lisa,
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why
                                              they
                                              > wouldn't be.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                              > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                              > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                              > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                              > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                              > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a
                                              truck,
                                              > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                              > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                                              > your doorstep.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                              > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my
                                              Mom
                                              > got a job.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly
                                              snooker
                                              > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usualÂ
                                              but
                                              > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                              > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                              > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even
                                              close
                                              > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person
                                              &
                                              > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                                              > some massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the
                                              parking
                                              > lot in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                                              > get to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                                              > no knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question
                                              and
                                              > is jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor countryÂ
                                              or
                                              > if non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                                              > maybe a dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is
                                              on
                                              > the label. Bah-humbug!
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                                              > of things more attractive & less stressful about having every need
                                              supplied
                                              > close by to home. Â
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                              > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                                              > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                              > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song
                                              said,
                                              > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's
                                              gone."
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she
                                              lived
                                              > & if she really had need of one.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                              > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > > Linda
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                              > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                              OBITUARY
                                              > ARCHIVES
                                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              >
                                              > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Â
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Hi Linda,
                                              > > >
                                              > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if
                                              vehicle
                                              > tax records are public?
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Lisa
                                              > > >
                                              > > > lisa.lepore2@
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                              > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              >
                                              > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                              OBITUARY
                                              > ARCHIVES
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for
                                              the
                                              > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                                              > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                                              > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                              > adjacent stone?
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the
                                              the
                                              > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark
                                              to
                                              > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                              > her.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                                              > property tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Linda
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                              > <mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                              > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                              > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                              > ARCHIVES
                                              > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                              > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                              > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                              > causes large problems in the site.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about
                                              the
                                              > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                              > offer.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Mary
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                              > wrote:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                              > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can
                                              find
                                              > DODs via the SSDI.
                                              > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then
                                              request
                                              > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from
                                              Reference
                                              > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                              > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                                              > archived copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to
                                              > search for & make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                              > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                              > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with
                                              assistance
                                              > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference
                                              material,
                                              > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                              > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a
                                              memorial.
                                              > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                                              > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                              > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                              > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                              > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                              <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                                              > &page=listFaqs
                                              > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                                              > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                              > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                                              > individual's memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper
                                              > to do so or you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that
                                              were
                                              > published in 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general,
                                              > obituaries in newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from
                                              > the funeral home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it
                                              should
                                              > list the newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in
                                              > the Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition,
                                              April
                                              > 11, 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving
                                              relatives
                                              > in the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                              > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating
                                              the
                                              > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                                              > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                                              > photo),
                                              > > > as
                                              > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                                              > to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records.
                                              Similarly,
                                              > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                              > record.
                                              > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                              > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                                              > that copyright.
                                              > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                              > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                              > printed.Â
                                              > > > > Linda
                                              > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                              > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                              > ARCHIVES
                                              > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                              > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her
                                              husband
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                                              > and they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                                              > her.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the
                                              memorials
                                              > I have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > Mary
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                                              > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                                              > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                                              > find links to all states and counties in the USA
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                                              > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > >
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > From: Stefanie
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
                                              > > > >
                                              > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                              <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                              OBITUARY
                                              > ARCHIVES
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                                              > > > > > Mary,
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                                              > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
                                              > > > >
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                                            • Lisa Lepore
                                              I’m not sure if you are saying you didn’t find them in Arnold or you didn’t look in Arnold. If you haven’t looked, check it out. I found Cumberland in
                                              Message 22 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                                I’m not sure if you are saying you didn’t find them in Arnold or you didn’t
                                                look in Arnold. If you haven’t looked, check it out.



                                                I found Cumberland in Vol 3 of Arnold. Do you have a subscription to
                                                ancestry.com? If so, just search for Jillson, and they will come up.

                                                It’s under the category of Stories and Publications, not the historical
                                                records.



                                                I saw a Luke Jillson in there, age 68, died at Cumberland 06 Jan 1823



                                                Lisa







                                                From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                                Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                                Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:38 PM
                                                To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES







                                                Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds
                                                books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the
                                                Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the
                                                Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my
                                                missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage
                                                date.

                                                Thanks again,

                                                Mary

                                                --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                , "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@...> wrote:
                                                >
                                                > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson in
                                                > there. I don't know your
                                                >
                                                > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > They are online at ancestry.com
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but I
                                                > can't get the site to download the files.
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > Lisa
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                ] On
                                                > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                                > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                                                > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                ARCHIVES
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > Hi to all,
                                                >
                                                > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                                                Ancestry
                                                > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                                >
                                                > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                                                have
                                                > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                                > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the children
                                                > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over 10
                                                > etc etc and the same with the females.
                                                >
                                                > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in the
                                                > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
                                                > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                                > 1844.
                                                >
                                                > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                                                does
                                                > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                                                >
                                                > Mary
                                                >
                                                > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                                                > >
                                                > > Lisa,
                                                > > Â
                                                > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
                                                > wouldn't be.
                                                > > Â
                                                > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                                > > Â
                                                > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                                > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
                                                > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
                                                > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                                > > Â
                                                > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                                > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                                > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a
                                                truck,
                                                > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                                > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
                                                > your doorstep.
                                                > > Â
                                                > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                                > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my
                                                Mom
                                                > got a job.
                                                > > Â
                                                > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
                                                > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usualÂ
                                                but
                                                > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                                > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                                > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even
                                                close
                                                > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person
                                                &
                                                > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                                > > Â
                                                > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                                                some
                                                > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                                                lot
                                                > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
                                                > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
                                                > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and
                                                is
                                                > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or
                                                if
                                                > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe
                                                a
                                                > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                                                > label. Bah-humbug!
                                                > > Â
                                                > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
                                                > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                                                > close by to home. Â
                                                > > Â
                                                > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                                > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
                                                > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                                > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song
                                                said,
                                                > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's
                                                gone."
                                                > > Â
                                                > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived
                                                &
                                                > if she really had need of one.
                                                > > Â
                                                > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                                > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                                > > Â
                                                > > Linda
                                                > >
                                                > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                                > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                > ARCHIVES
                                                > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > > Â
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > > Hi Linda,
                                                > >
                                                > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
                                                > tax records are public?
                                                > >
                                                > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                                > >
                                                > > Lisa
                                                > >
                                                > > lisa.lepore2@
                                                > >
                                                > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                                > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                                > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                > ARCHIVES
                                                > >
                                                > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
                                                > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
                                                > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
                                                > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                                > >
                                                > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                                > adjacent stone?
                                                > >
                                                > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
                                                > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark
                                                to
                                                > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                                > her.
                                                > >
                                                > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                                                property
                                                > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                                > >
                                                > > Linda
                                                > >
                                                > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                                > <mjbarnett23@
                                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
                                                > >
                                                > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                                > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                                > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                > ARCHIVES
                                                > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
                                                > >
                                                > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
                                                > >
                                                > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                                > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                                > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                                > causes large problems in the site.
                                                > >
                                                > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
                                                > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                                > offer.
                                                > >
                                                > > Mary
                                                > >
                                                > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
                                                > wrote:
                                                > > >
                                                > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                                > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can
                                                find
                                                > DODs via the SSDI.
                                                > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
                                                > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from
                                                Reference
                                                > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                                > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                                                archived
                                                > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
                                                > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                                > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                                > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with
                                                assistance
                                                > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference
                                                material,
                                                > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                                > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a
                                                memorial.
                                                > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
                                                > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                                > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                                > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                                > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                                <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
                                                > &page=listFaqs
                                                > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
                                                > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                                > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                                                individual's
                                                > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
                                                > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were published
                                                in
                                                > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                                                > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                                                > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
                                                > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                                                > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                                                11,
                                                > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
                                                > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                                > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating
                                                the
                                                > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please do
                                                > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
                                                > photo),
                                                > > as
                                                > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                                                to
                                                > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
                                                > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                                > record.
                                                > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                                > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
                                                > that copyright.
                                                > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                                > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                                > printed.Â
                                                > > > Linda
                                                > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
                                                > > >
                                                > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                                > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                > ARCHIVES
                                                > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
                                                > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
                                                > > >
                                                > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
                                                > > >
                                                > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
                                                > > >
                                                > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                                                and
                                                > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
                                                > > >
                                                > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials
                                                I
                                                > have made on Find a Grave for family members.
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Mary



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                                              • Lisa Lepore
                                                Mary, No, I’m sorry. I’ve lost my mind. Barbour is for Connecticut and I was looking for some information there for someone else. A similar set of
                                                Message 23 of 29 , Mar 22, 2013
                                                  Mary, No, I’m sorry. I’ve lost my mind. Barbour is for Connecticut and I
                                                  was looking for some information there for someone else.



                                                  A similar set of records for RI would be Arnold. In addition to the grave
                                                  records Arnold used church records and newspaper listings.



                                                  I mentioned them in my other message.



                                                  Sorry for the confusion.



                                                  Lisa





                                                  From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com] On
                                                  Behalf Of mjbarnett23@...
                                                  Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:41 PM
                                                  To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES





                                                  Lisa,

                                                  You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for
                                                  Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They
                                                  are related but not of the family I am searching for.

                                                  If you know if there are RI Barbour records , please let me know.

                                                  Mary

                                                  --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  , "mjbarnett23@..." <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds
                                                  books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the
                                                  Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the
                                                  Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my
                                                  missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage
                                                  date.
                                                  >
                                                  > Thanks again,
                                                  >
                                                  > Mary
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lisa Lepore" <lisa.lepore2@>
                                                  wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Have you looked at the Arnold books? There are a good number of Jillson
                                                  in
                                                  > > there. I don't know your
                                                  > >
                                                  > > people, so I can't tell you if it's them, but do take a look.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > They are online at ancestry.com
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > By the way, I did try to look using the link Linda posted last week, but
                                                  I
                                                  > > can't get the site to download the files.
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > http://onerhodeislandfamily.com/free-rhode-island-resources/
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Lisa
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  ] On
                                                  > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
                                                  > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
                                                  > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>

                                                  > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                  ARCHIVES
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Hi to all,
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Seems I am always posting negative searches. I just went back onto
                                                  Ancestry
                                                  > > for the 1830 and 1840 censuses which are now updated.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They
                                                  have
                                                  > > been telling me they have no records on the children of Luke Jillson and
                                                  > > Elizabeth Aldrich. I just printed out the 1840 census and all the
                                                  children
                                                  > > are listed under the appropriate boxes: ie: Males under 5 , males over
                                                  10
                                                  > > etc etc and the same with the females.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > They may not have birth records if home births, but they do appear in
                                                  the
                                                  > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my
                                                  gr
                                                  > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
                                                  > > 1844.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence
                                                  does
                                                  > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Mary
                                                  > >
                                                  > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Lisa,
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why
                                                  they
                                                  > > wouldn't be.
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
                                                  > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/
                                                  my
                                                  > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol
                                                  to
                                                  > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
                                                  > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
                                                  > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a
                                                  truck,
                                                  > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
                                                  > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came
                                                  to
                                                  > > your doorstep.
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
                                                  > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my
                                                  Mom
                                                  > > got a job.
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly
                                                  snooker
                                                  > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usualÂ
                                                  but
                                                  > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
                                                  > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
                                                  > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even
                                                  close
                                                  > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout
                                                  person &
                                                  > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in
                                                  some
                                                  > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking
                                                  lot
                                                  > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to
                                                  get
                                                  > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that hasÂ
                                                  no
                                                  > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question
                                                  and is
                                                  > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor countryÂ
                                                  or if
                                                  > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt.
                                                  maybe a
                                                  > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
                                                  > > label. Bah-humbug!
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot
                                                  of
                                                  > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
                                                  > > close by to home. Â
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
                                                  > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China &
                                                  elsewhere
                                                  > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
                                                  > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song
                                                  said,
                                                  > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's
                                                  gone."
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she
                                                  lived &
                                                  > > if she really had need of one.
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
                                                  > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > > Linda
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
                                                  > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                                  OBITUARY
                                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Â
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Hi Linda,
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if
                                                  vehicle
                                                  > > tax records are public?
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Lisa
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > lisa.lepore2@
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
                                                  > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
                                                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO
                                                  OBITUARY
                                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for
                                                  the
                                                  > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence
                                                  City
                                                  > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see
                                                  if
                                                  > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
                                                  > > adjacent stone?
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the
                                                  the
                                                  > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr
                                                  mark to
                                                  > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
                                                  > > her.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at
                                                  property
                                                  > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Linda
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
                                                  > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                                  > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                                  > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
                                                  > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
                                                  > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
                                                  > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                                  > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                                  > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                                  > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
                                                  > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
                                                  > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
                                                  > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                                  > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about
                                                  the
                                                  > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
                                                  > > offer.
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                                                  > > > Mary
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                                                  > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin
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                                                  > > wrote:
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                                                  > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
                                                  > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can
                                                  find
                                                  > > DODs via the SSDI.
                                                  > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then
                                                  request
                                                  > > an obit search & copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from
                                                  Reference
                                                  > > Services at the Providence Public Library. Â
                                                  > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the
                                                  archived
                                                  > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for
                                                  &
                                                  > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
                                                  > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
                                                  > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with
                                                  assistance
                                                  > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference
                                                  material,
                                                  > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
                                                  > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a
                                                  memorial.
                                                  > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still
                                                  alive.
                                                  > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
                                                  > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                                  > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
                                                  > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                                  > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
                                                  > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an
                                                  individual's
                                                  > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so
                                                  or
                                                  > > you are the author of the obituary. Some obituaries that were
                                                  published in
                                                  > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
                                                  > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
                                                  > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list
                                                  the
                                                  > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
                                                  > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April
                                                  11,
                                                  > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives
                                                  in
                                                  > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
                                                  > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating
                                                  the
                                                  > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published. Please
                                                  do
                                                  > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took
                                                  the
                                                  > > photo),
                                                  > > > as
                                                  > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right
                                                  to
                                                  > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records.
                                                  Similarly,
                                                  > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
                                                  > > record.
                                                  > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
                                                  > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company
                                                  owns
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                                                  > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
                                                  > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
                                                  > > printed.Â
                                                  > > > > Linda
                                                  > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                                  > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
                                                  > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
                                                  > > ARCHIVES
                                                  > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                  > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                                  > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                                  > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                                                  > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                                                  > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                                                  > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her
                                                  husband
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                                                  > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964
                                                  and
                                                  > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had
                                                  her.
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                                                  > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                                                  > > > > So anything is a shot in the dark.
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                                                  > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                                                  > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the
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                                                  > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                                                  > > > > Mary
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                                                  > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                  <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                                                  > > > > > The USGenWeb has archives for types of vital records, there is not
                                                  > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
                                                  > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usgenweb/ri/rifiles.htm
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                                                  > > > > > If you go to the main USGenWeb site, http://usgenweb.org/ you will
                                                  > > find links to all states and counties in the USA
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                                                  > > > > > each state and/or county has achieves for all vital records
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                                                  > > > > > all of the information at the USGenWeb is free, there are some
                                                  > > unscrupulous people who will copy and sell it
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                                                  > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                                  > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                                  > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                  > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                • Linda Peloquin
                                                  Hi Mary,   I can see how this can be so frustrating.  Maybe as the LDS gets more on line something will turn up.   My own elusive ancestor hunt is for one
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                                                    Hi Mary,
                                                     
                                                    I can see how this can be so frustrating.  Maybe as the LDS gets more on line something will turn up.
                                                     
                                                    My own elusive ancestor hunt is for one Johannes DeBow/DeBoog of /New Amsterdam/Manhattan said to be a baker & father of my ancestor Gerrit DeBow. 
                                                     
                                                    I've got fairly good documentation from arrival in 1649 of the family up to Johannes and from Gerrit forward but all I can ever find on Gerrit's father Johannes is mentions in old histories that he was a baker in NYC/Manhattan & he was Garrit's father.  Nothing else.
                                                     
                                                    So, if it makes you feel somewhat better, you've got company & I'm sure I'm not the only one making the frustration trip with you.
                                                     
                                                    Linda

                                                    --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:


                                                    From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                                                    Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                                    To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
                                                    Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 3:15 PM



                                                     





                                                    Hi Linda,

                                                    I just was getting my information ready for Monday. I am going back to Central Falls as that was where I made contact the first time with this line and have gone back only once to continue the search for the famous will of Randolph that proved the connection.

                                                    I never felt I followed thru enough there. One thing about there, they don't help you which is alright, but they don't bother either.
                                                    I have gone through the Rehoboth Vital records, there were a few Jillsons, not mine of course.

                                                    As far as Attleboro, I started there first, they had nothing on Jillson at least that's what they told me. They did the research, funny I don't remember the specifics, but the poor woman tried so hard.

                                                    I have gone through online records prior to 1850 for every area I can think of with multiple different spellings. I keep going back to those old records because marriage and births of children occurred in that time frame.

                                                    More than likely it will be a spelling transcription error. I found Luke today in one Census last name spelled Tillson. When I looked the J could have been taken for a T.

                                                    Thanks for all you are doing for me.

                                                    See my post on Oakland Grove Cemetery. Same old story.

                                                    Mary

                                                    --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@...> wrote:
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                                                    > Just wanted to interject here that a small portion of Woonsocket was originally part of Smithfield.  And Cumberland was once known as Attleborough Gore & was a part of Rehoboth.
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                                                    > When the partition of Smithfield took place in 1871 creating the new towns of North Smithfield, Lincoln - which included up to 1898, Central Falls, and the now smaller Smithfield; a sliver of that partitioning was also given to the City of Woonsocket.
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                                                    > I've never seen a map of what part of the original Smithfield was given to Woonsocket but maybe some of you Jillsons were in that  portion of Woonsocket that came from Smithfield.  All I have is a  History of RI published in 1878 which is how I knew of the partitioning of Smithfield.
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                                                    > The section in this old history book on Cumberland also mentions that originally Cumberland as well as Pawtucket, Attleboro & most of Seekonk as well as that section of Swanzey & Barrington known as Wannamoisett were the town of Rehoboth, MA.
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                                                    > 3 purchases of land from the Natives made up this Rehoboth.   Attleboro & Cumberland made up the last purchase known as the North Purchase.   In case you run across the place Attleborough Gore that was located within the portion that eventually became Cumberland.
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                                                    > 1694 - The North Purchase is incorporated & takes the name Attleborough.
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                                                    > 1746 - Division of Attleborough begins with the section know as "The Gore" or "Attleborough Gore"  being partitioned off and becoming Cumberland. 
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                                                    > There were further partitionings of Attleborough creating Pawtucket (which also acquired a portion of the original town of North Providence), and Seekonk along with a smaller Attleborough/Attleboro. but for this discussion the Cumberland split/creation is the one we're interested in.
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                                                    > At this point in the discussion, I can't remember what you said you've checked & not checked.  Have you checked the old Smithfield records at Central Falls for the portion that was annexed to Woonsocket?  How about Rehoboth or Attleboro?
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                                                    > --- On Fri, 3/22/13, mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...> wrote:
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                                                    > From: mjbarnett23@... <mjbarnett23@...>
                                                    > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY ARCHIVES
                                                    > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                    > Sadly None are mine.
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                                                    > Everyone is trying so hard, I am just about to give up, been through everything over and over and over.
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                                                    > Thanks to all
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                                                    > Mary
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                                                    > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, finnjordan4@ wrote:
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                                                    > > Check out Vol 21, pg 307 in the Arnold Collection. There are a few Jillson deaths from Cumberland.
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                                                    > > You mentioned the Barbour Books, I only found Connecticut records for Barbour's records. There were many Jillsons who moved to Connecticut. They are related but not of the family I am searching for.
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                                                    > > > Sorry to be late in replying Lisa, no I have not found them in the Arnolds books, I have never been able to get Cumberland or Woonsocket Records in the Arnold Books . Got many other towns and counties. I did confirm them in the Ballou Family by Adin Ballou as they intermarried with Jillsons just not my missing ancestors. They were listed however as to birth date and marriage date.
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                                                    > > > > Behalf Of mjbarnett23@
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                                                    > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:51 PM
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                                                    > > > > For over 10 years I have been fighting with Cumberland Town Hall. They have
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                                                    > > > > censuses. Now where are the death records of these same people? Only my gr
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                                                    > > > > great grandfather and his one sister lived past
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                                                    > > > > 1844.
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                                                    > > > > I feel like a part of the brick wall has come down. Yippee, persistence does
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                                                    > > > > pay off. Sounds miniscule but to me it makes me feel like dancing!!!!!!!
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                                                    > > > > Mary
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                                                    > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@> wrote:
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                                                    > > > > > Lisa,
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                                                    > > > > > Good question although they are a public record so I don't see why they
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                                                    > > > > wouldn't be.
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                                                    > > > > > I don't know if Blanche would have had a car or needed one.Â
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                                                    > > > > > RIPTA or whatever the public bus system was called back then had a lot
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                                                    > > > > more service. I lived in Prov as a child & I used to catch the bus w/ my
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                                                    > > > > late Aunt Mary and we'd go from Prov. to the Veteran's Home in Bristol to
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                                                    > > > > visit her older brother. My Mom & I too, would go all over bus.Â
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                                                    > > > > > In city, we didn't need a second car for my Mom to get around because
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                                                    > > > > everything - butcher's, grocery store, bakeries, 5 & 10 store, shoe &
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                                                    > > > > clothing stores, hardware, fabric stores, veggie guy came around in a truck,
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                                                    > > > > milk was home delivery, doctors & dentists were everywhere, etc.  You
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                                                    > > > > name it & it was either within walking distance, on a bus route or came to
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                                                    > > > > your doorstep.
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                                                    > > > > > Â
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                                                    > > > > > It wasn't until about the mid 1960's, the period were discussing here,
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                                                    > > > > that my parents got a second car because we'd moved into the 'burbs & my Mom
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                                                    > > > > got a job.
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                                                    > > > > > Â
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                                                    > > > > > What a contrast to today where if the corporations can possibly snooker
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                                                    > > > > enough people, you'll not only be doing all your own shopping as usual but
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                                                    > > > > helping them to eliminate more jobs by doing your own checking out &
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                                                    > > > > bagging, too. More profit for them I guess because I don't see them
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                                                    > > > > offering discounts on the self checkout lines commensurate, Â or even close
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                                                    > > > > to commensurate, to the money they're saving not having a checkout person &
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                                                    > > > > a bagger on the payroll.Â
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                                                    > > > > > And all that after you've had to drive miles, fight traffic, park in some
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                                                    > > > > massive parking lot or garage, trek in from the boonies of the parking lot
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                                                    > > > > in the blazing sun, pouring rain, snow or slush, gale winds, etc. to get
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                                                    > > > > to the door & then trudge through a huge box store to shop that has no
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                                                    > > > > knowledgeable staff on the floor if you need help or have a question and is
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                                                    > > > > jammed w/products all made in China or some other slave labor country or if
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                                                    > > > > non perishables in the supermarket, all manufactured by one of abt. maybe a
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                                                    > > > > dozen major corporations irrespective of what the brand name is on the
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                                                    > > > > label. Bah-humbug!
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                                                    > > > > > Â
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                                                    > > > > > I have to wonder if today's way is really progress. There were a lot of
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                                                    > > > > things more attractive & less stressful about having every need supplied
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                                                    > > > > close by to home. Â
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                                                    > > > > > Or maybe I'm just getting old and crabby & sick of traffic, huge non
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                                                    > > > > descript box stores, overpriced - low quality goods from China & elsewhere
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                                                    > > > > and having to walk miles through a giant supermarket just to get to the
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                                                    > > > > essentials in meat, dairy & produce.  Like the Joni Mitchell song said,
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                                                    > > > > "Don't it always seem to go, You don't know what you've got til it's gone."
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                                                    > > > > > I guess whether or not Blanche had a car would depend on where she lived &
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                                                    > > > > if she really had need of one.
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                                                    > > > > > At this point, there don't seem to be too many options left to explore
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                                                    > > > > especially since living family are unreceptive to contact.
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                                                    > > > > > Linda
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                                                    > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/16/13, Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@> wrote:
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                                                    > > > > > From: Lisa Lepore <lisa.lepore2@>
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                                                    > > > > > Subject: RE: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                    > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                    > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > > Date: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 12:02 AM
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                                                    > > > > > Hi Linda,
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                                                    > > > > > You mentioned property tax records, but that makes me wonder if vehicle
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                                                    > > > > tax records are public?
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                                                    > > > > > Maybe Blanche owned a car? Questionable in 1964, but you never know.
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                                                    > > > > > Lisa
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                                                    > > > > > lisa.lepore2@
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                                                    > > > > > From: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > [mailto:RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > ] On Behalf Of Linda Peloquin
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                                                    > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:45 PM
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                                                    > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                    > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                    > > > > > Well Mary, then I'm sure you've also checked the burial records for the
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                                                    > > > > cemetery where her husband William was buried, checked the Providence City
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                                                    > > > > directories and checked obits for any sibilings she may have had to see if
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                                                    > > > > any of their obits mentioned her as being deceased.
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                                                    > > > > > How about the headstone for William's burial? Is she on that or an
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                                                    > > > > adjacent stone?
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                                                    > > > > > I suppose you might have to let Blanche rest a bit longer until the the
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                                                    > > > > 1964 records & each successive year there after hit the golden 100yr mark to
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                                                    > > > > come out of the privacy cloak & then keep looking for her until you find
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                                                    > > > > her.
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                                                    > > > > > Too bad she was a renter or you could have gone back & looked at property
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                                                    > > > > tax records to try & find a year for her death.
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                                                    > > > > > Linda
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                                                    > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/14/13, mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com>
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                                                    > > > > <mjbarnett23@
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
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                                                    > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mailto:mjbarnett23%40ymail.com> <mjbarnett23@
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23@%20%3cmailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com>
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:mjbarnett23%40hotmail.com> >
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                                                    > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                    > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                    > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 14, 2013, 5:23 PM
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                                                    > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts Linda,
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                                                    > > > > > I belong to find a grave, if I do add an obituary, I do not post the
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                                                    > > > > > living relatives. Some people on Fag, get really upset because that is
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                                                    > > > > what they are looking for. Unfortunately many people do not do that. It
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                                                    > > > > causes large problems in the site.
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                                                    > > > > > Have been the route you suggested, unfortunately came up short about the
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                                                    > > > > children. It's dead end, and I know it, but Stefanie was nice enough to
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                                                    > > > > > Mary
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                                                    > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , Linda Peloquin <miyukichan0987@>
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                                                    > > > > wrote:
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                                                    > > > > > > To find her perhaps you could approach via obits for her children
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                                                    > > > > assuming she had children and one or more of them died for whom you can find
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                                                    > > > > DODs via the SSDI.
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                                                    > > > > > > Knowing the DOD even if it's only month & year, you could then request
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                                                    > > > > an obitÃÆ'‚ search &ÃÆ'‚ copy in the Providence Journal aka Projo from Reference
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                                                    > > > > Services at the Providence Public Library. ÃÆ'‚
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                                                    > > > > > > If the death is after Dec 1983, then someone with access to the archived
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                                                    > > > > copies of the Projo via Proquest online might also be able to search for &
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                                                    > > > > make a copy for you if an obit was found.
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                                                    > > > > > > With all the touchiness surounding copywrites now, even though the
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                                                    > > > > original authors of the obits are in most cases the familes with assistance
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                                                    > > > > from their funeral director, I've been using the obit as reference material,
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                                                    > > > > extracting the essentials from it & authoring my own write-up on the
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                                                    > > > > deceased where I've had info from an obit I wanted to include in a memorial.
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                                                    > > > > That also allows me to edit out people I know or suspect are still alive.
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                                                    > > > > > > Here's Find A Grave's guidance on the subject:
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                                                    > > > > > > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                                    > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries
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                                                    > > > > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?searchArg=obituaries&page=listFaqs
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                                                    > > > > #89> &page=listFaqs#89> &page=listFaqs#89
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                                                    > > > > > > Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?
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                                                    > > > > > > You should not copy obituary notices from newspapers to an individual's
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                                                    > > > > memorial record unless you have permission from the newspaper to do so or
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                                                    > > > > you are the author of the obituary.ÃÆ'‚ Some obituaries that were published in
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                                                    > > > > 1922 or earlier are now in the public domain. In general, obituaries in
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                                                    > > > > newspapers are submitted by the family with assistance from the funeral
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                                                    > > > > home. If the obituary is added to the memorial record, it should list the
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                                                    > > > > newspaper and date the obit was printed for example "Published in the
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                                                    > > > > Hattiesburg American, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Internet Edition, April 11,
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                                                    > > > > 2007". Please do not include the names of living or surviving relatives in
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                                                    > > > > the biography, unless you have their permission. If you do not have
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                                                    > > > > permission to copy an obituary to a memorial, you may put a note stating the
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                                                    > > > > name of the newspaper and the date the obituary was published.ÃÆ'‚ Please do
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                                                    > > > > NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the
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                                                    > > > > photo),
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                                                    > > > > > as
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                                                    > > > > > > they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to
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                                                    > > > > remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly,
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                                                    > > > > you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial
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                                                    > > > > record.
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                                                    > > > > > > Obituaries for "famous" individuals are usually written by newspaper
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                                                    > > > > staff and can not be posted to Find A Grave as the newspaper company owns
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                                                    > > > > that copyright.
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                                                    > > > > > > Please do not include website addresses that may be listed in the
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                                                    > > > > obituary as they usually expire within a year after the obituary is
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                                                    > > > > printed.ÃÆ'‚
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                                                    > > > > > > Linda
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                                                    > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/13/13, mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@> wrote:
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                                                    > > > > > > From: mjbarnett23@ <mjbarnett23@>
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                                                    > > > > > > Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Re: WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                    > > > > ARCHIVES
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                                                    > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 6:39 PM
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                                                    > > > > > > Thanks for the offer Stefanie.
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                                                    > > > > > > There is one person I am searching for and cannot find her death.
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                                                    > > > > > > Blanche Gertrude(Jillson her mn) Alger
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                                                    > > > > > > b.June 13 1891 Providence, Rhode Island
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                                                    > > > > > > m: William Alger Nov 21 1914
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                                                    > > > > > > I have everything on her thru the 1930 census. Have all on her husband
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                                                    > > > > > > thru death and burial. The State of RI tells me she died after 1964 and
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                                                    > > > > they cannot release information for 2 more years. Never said they had her.
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                                                    > > > > > > It is possible she remarried and that could be why have not located.
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                                                    > > > > > > What I mainly was looking for was a way to find multiple obituaries
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                                                    > > > > > > Nothing mainly in particular, just want to enter them on the memorials I
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                                                    > > > > > > Thank you for your kind offer though.
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                                                    > > > > > > --- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com>
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                                                    > > > > <mailto:RI_Ancestors%40yahoogroups.com> , "Arlan" <agmaguire@> wrote:
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                                                    > > > > much for Rhode Island, here is the Rhode Island link
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                                                    > > > > > > > From: Stefanie
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                                                    > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19 AM
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                                                    > > > > > > > To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
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                                                    > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [RI_Ancestors] WHERE TO OBTAIN BEST ACCESS TO OBITUARY
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                                                    > > > > > > > Whom are you looking for, where and when. I have access to some
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