Re: Joseph Clarke and Margaret Turner b. early 1600 MA
- Thank you Jan, Tom, and Patricia for your help with this. Patricia,
I'll definitely take a look at the book you cited. I'm currently
reading Nathaniel Philbrick's book, *Mayflower*, and am impressed with
how Rhode Island managed to remain fairly neutral during King Philip's
--- In RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com, patriciajhansen@... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/18/09 9:46:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> tomclarke1@... writes:
> The issue of Joseph Clarke's?2nd wife, Margaret,?has been around for a
> while. To the best of my knowledge her identity has not been
documented. This is
> the 1st time I have encountered John and Jane Turner as her
> their son Lawrence Turner, is identified as her father. There is an
> NEHGR, John Turner of Lynn, Mass. and Some of His Descendants, Vol.
> Pgs. 33-44, on this family.?John's wife is not identified and no
> mentioned, only sons John and Lawrence. It is difficult to see how
> of Lawrence's old enough to be the mother of Joseph Clarke's
> children,?beginning in the late 1650's, fits into the family.?
> There is a letter in the James N. Arnold Collection at Knight
> Providence, RI from Gilbert Doane, dating?from the 1950's. (I
should not be
> writing this as I don't have the letter in front of me.) Doane was
> genealogist of his generation, and he was researching the Margaret
> issue. Apparently one of Joseph Clarke's children, Carew, I think,
had some silver
> plate or utensils bearing the initials "L. T.", which were supposed
> belonged to his grandfather. Doane supposed that Lawrence Turner
was the only
> person in Newport at that period whose initials?filled the
> not aware of a primary document regarding the silver plate.?This
may or may
> not be the origin of the Margaret Turner story.
> I'm also curious about the origin of John and Jane being the
> Margaret. The NEHGR article has their son John born "about" 1612,
> point to earlier dates for their births. Taunton as place of birth
is just a
> slip...or a spectacular breakthrough in New England history.
> Tom Clarke
> P. S. You need to get out of the hospital. There are almost no good
> genealogy books there.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan <janrobison2@...>
> To: RI_Ancestors@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 7:26 pm
> Subject: [RI_Ancestors] Joseph Clarke and Margaret Turner b. early
> Hi, kids!
> I am sitting in the hospital, still, on this borrowed laptop so I
> have no way of looking up anything on this particular line...
> Does anyone have any information for this lady? Here is the email I
> received from her.
> I am a descendant of Joseph Clarke and Margaret Turner, through
> their son, Carewe, and enjoyed looking through your rootsweb page.
> I noticed that you have Margaret Turner's parents, John and Jane,
> listed as having been born in Taunton, Bristol, MA, in 1600 and
> 1607, respectively. Do you have a source for this? I am curious
> because the Pilgrims didn't arrive until 1620, and I didn't think
> there were many English settlers in New England before then.
> Jan, and Tom, you might want to go to
> sBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result) and download the volume.
> Beginning on page 73 there is a section regarding the ancestry of
Dr. John Clarke,
> along with information on his brother Joseph.
> This book seems to rely on secondary records, so it might not be
> but it might serve as a reasonably good starting point. Certainly,
> be more accurate than some of the stuff on Rootsweb or Ancestry.
> I have not yet had the time to fully go through the book myself, but
> downloaded it so it is on my list of things to get to.
> My research seems to indicate that I am a descendant of Dr. John,
> husband is a descendant of Joseph and Margaret.
> Jan, try to relax while you are in the hospital, and do everything
> doctor's want you to do!
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