Yes, Lineage 1 is what we call the Founder Line. We actually have 2
Lord Lyon's Court paper trailed Crinan c975 descendants who have
tested with the project and are in Lineage 1.
But, the DNA triangulation between these 2 only goes back to c1417.
Each descend from a different son dating back to c1417. We have a 3rd
with a very strong paper trail back to Crinan, but until they get the
blessing of the Lord Lyons court, I don't feel comfortable making it
fact. This third participant descends from yet another son of our
other two Crinan descendants. To the best of my knowledge, only Clan
Donald has triangulated the DNA of their founder line further back, by
about 30 years, to 1387 even though their paper trails go back to
There are other matches appearing on our match pages that are being
studied which gives us assurance that R1b1b2g is the true haplogroup
--- In R1b1c_U106-S21@yahoogroups.com
, "Arnold Zuiderent" <arnold@...>
> I had a closer look at the website of the Dunbar Surname Project. I
> see that you know the haplogroup (R1b1b2g) and haplotype of Crinan
> b.975 Scotland, father of Duncan. This is very interesting. May I ask
> you if this is a result of a DNA test of his or other ancient bones?
> Or is it extrapolated from the DNA tests of his proven descendents in
> paternal line, I understood you call this lineage 1?
> --- In R1b1c_U106-S21@yahoogroups.com, "Debra Dunbar Nowell"
> <dunbardna@> wrote:
> > The founder of our Dunbar lineage is also R1b1b2g. I don't know if
> > anyone is interested but the link below is to a portrait of the
> > to our common ancestor. It's only a side view but the time period
> > c1040.