Re: [R1b1c_U106-S21] What Tests?
It looks like FTDNA's new tree includes all known SNPs, whether they are private or not. It would be helpful if they would make it clear which are thought to be private, so that those who want to save their money for the best chance to test positive won't spend unwisely.
--- On Fri, 4/1/11, Susan Rosine <basenji_luvr@...> wrote:
From: Susan Rosine <basenji_luvr@...>
Subject: Re: [R1b1c_U106-S21] What Tests?
Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 12:49 AM
So why does FTDNA offer it, if it's a private SNP?
My uncle is L48 null 425 (Luter/Lewter).
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Michael Maddi <mtmaddi@...>Sender: R1b1c_U106-S21@yahoogroups.comDate: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 05:23:15 -0700 (PDT)To: <R1b1c_U106-S21@yahoogroups.com>ReplyTo: R1b1c_U106-S21@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [R1b1c_U106-S21] What Tests?
At this time, there are no known SNPs downstream from L48 that a member of the null 425 cluster would be positive for. L188 was positive in Wayne Kauffman, a member of the cluster. However, testing of L188 by other cluster members show that it's a private SNP, only found in Kauffman lines.
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Roy <rdwelch@...> wrote:
From: Roy <rdwelch@...>
Subject: [R1b1c_U106-S21] What Tests?
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 6:32 PM
I haven't had any tests run for a while now, waiting until some new ones
appeared that might extend my haplogroup position. I am R1b1b2a1a4 as
of now with tests showing U106+, P107-, U198-, L1-, L48+, L148-. and
Null 425. I see some new entries beneath L48 on the Haplogroup charts,
L6, P89.2, L217, L257 and L325 with L47 and L188 tests available now.
Any suggestions of potential tests I should be looking toward. As I
recall the L48 null 425 people don't have much reason to test for L47.
- And thank you, Brian.
On 5/5/2011 7:29 PM, Brian P. Swann wrote:
I think Wayne is right – but probably Adriano Squecco can give the best answer as he is uploading the results from the v3 Illumina Chip into his database, as I understand.
That will give the best idea of their rarity relative to the other markers downstream from R1b- L-48.
They are way down the Venter/Picton branch. All 3 seem to be downstream of L-45.
I believe Owen Picton stated that these all lie downstream of L48. I have no independent knowledge of that. If I'm wrong, do please let me know.
On 5/5/2011 4:57 PM, John German wrote:
Are you saying these are down stream of L48+ ?
Geoffrey Clark wrote:
Do we have the foggiest notion of the relative positions of L477, L493, or L525? Do we have a sense of how widely they are shared among L48+ men? I'm trying to get a feel for the marginal utility of ordering one or more from ftdna since availability of the L525 test seems to be nearing.
On 4/25/2011 6:37 AM, Brian P. Swann wrote:
We have found 3 new SNPs using the v3 23andMe Chip. L477, L493 and L525.
Craig Venter has them too – so Thomas does not get very excited about this discovery – but we do.
So I am not sure anyone has the answer to your question. For sure these three are downstream of U106/S21 by some mileage – as Thomas then had to number them.
How can I find what snps downstream of U106 are tested by the 23andMe version 3 chip? Does FTDNA offer some that are not included in this test? Does 23andMe have some in V3 that are not available at FTDNA?