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  • sams1942
    Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314
    Message 1 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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      Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:

      R1b - M343
      R1b1 - P25
      R1b1b - P297
      R1b1b2 - S3, M269
      R1b1b2a - L23, L49
      R1b1b2a1 - L51
      R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
      R1b1b2a1a1 - M405

      I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.

      Sam
    • Douglas W. Fisher
      Sam, Gen 2.0 will better define your haplogroup. M405=U106+, so chances are your haplogroup is downstream of U106+. Best Regards, Doug ... From: sams1942 To:
      Message 2 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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        Sam,
         
        Gen 2.0 will better define your haplogroup. M405=U106+, so chances are your haplogroup is downstream of U106+. 
         
                                             Best Regards, Doug
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: sams1942
        Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:44 PM
        Subject: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

         

        Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:

        R1b - M343
        R1b1 - P25
        R1b1b - P297
        R1b1b2 - S3, M269
        R1b1b2a - L23, L49
        R1b1b2a1 - L51
        R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
        R1b1b2a1a1 - M405

        I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.

        Sam

      • Tim Janzen
        Dear Sam, If you are trying to find your roots, I would suggest you pursue the autosomal angle really hard. That might end up being more productive than the Y
        Message 3 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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          Dear Sam,

          If you are trying to find your roots, I would suggest you pursue the autosomal angle really hard.  That might end up being more productive than the Y chromosome testing.  If I were in your situation I would immediately transfer my 23andMe raw data over to the FTDNA Family Finder database and I would also do the Ancestry.com DNA test.  I would then carefully review the closest matches in all three databases.  I would then try testing relatives of those contacts until I got close and closer to your nearest relatives.  There is also an adoption DNA list on Yahoo that is really active and helpful.

          Sincerely,

          Tim Janzen

           

          From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sams1942
          Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:45 AM
          To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

           

           

          Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:

          R1b - M343
          R1b1 - P25
          R1b1b - P297
          R1b1b2 - S3, M269
          R1b1b2a - L23, L49
          R1b1b2a1 - L51
          R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
          R1b1b2a1a1 - M405

          I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.

          Sam

        • Sean P. Tracey
          I agree with Tim. In my experience it is the only accurate DNA test for family history. My family finder matches that I can confirm through other means have
          Message 4 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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            I agree with Tim. In my experience it is the only accurate DNA test for family history. My family finder matches that I can confirm through other means have been dead on exact. By contrast, my father and I according to the Y DNA explanation "may be related within the genealogical time frame" which means 700 years or so. FF says we are father/son. I am not complaining but there appears to much more precision in automsomal testing. Y DNA has become for me a means of eliminating which side the match comes from and nothing more.


            Sean Patrick Tracey
            Tracey Law Firm
            440 Louisiana, Suite 1901
            Houston, Texas 77002
            713-495-2333
            713-495-2331 (fax)
            www.traceylawfirm.com

            Board Certified-Personal Injury Trial Law-Texas Board of Legal Specialization
            Certified Civil Trial Specialist-National Board of Trial Advocacy
            American Board of Trial Advocates

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            From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Janzen [tjanzen@...]
            Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:41 PM
            To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: RE: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

            Dear Sam,
            If you are trying to find your roots, I would suggest you pursue the autosomal angle really hard. That might end up being more productive than the Y chromosome testing. If I were in your situation I would immediately transfer my 23andMe raw data over to the FTDNA Family Finder database and I would also do the Ancestry.com DNA test. I would then carefully review the closest matches in all three databases. I would then try testing relatives of those contacts until I got close and closer to your nearest relatives. There is also an adoption DNA list on Yahoo that is really active and helpful.
            Sincerely,
            Tim Janzen

            From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sams1942
            Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:45 AM
            To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group



            Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:

            R1b - M343
            R1b1 - P2 5
            R1b1b - P297
            R1b1b2 - S3, M269
            R1b1b2a - L23, L49
            R1b1b2a1 - L51
            R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
            R1b1b2a1a1 - M405

            I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.

            Sam
          • Sam Stimson
            Thanks Doug. So much to learn with this old slow brain... :) ________________________________ From: Douglas W. Fisher To:
            Message 5 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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              Thanks Doug. So much to learn with this old slow brain... :)


              From: Douglas W. Fisher <dfisher84@...>
              To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:04 PM
              Subject: Re: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

               
              Sam,
               
              Gen 2.0 will better define your haplogroup. M405=U106+, so chances are your haplogroup is downstream of U106+. 
               
                                                   Best Regards, Doug
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: sams1942
              Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:44 PM
              Subject: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

               
              Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:

              R1b - M343
              R1b1 - P25
              R1b1b - P297
              R1b1b2 - S3, M269
              R1b1b2a - L23, L49
              R1b1b2a1 - L51
              R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
              R1b1b2a1a1 - M405

              I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.

              Sam



            • Douglas W. Fisher
              My ydna testing of 67 markers actually helped me to designate my paternal lineage, and then autosomal testing has helped me to designate close family. I am
              Message 6 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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                My ydna testing of 67 markers actually helped me to designate my paternal
                lineage, and then autosomal testing has helped me to designate close family.
                I am also an adoptee, so all of the testing together has helped me to find
                family.

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "Sean P. Tracey" <stracey@...>
                To: <R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:37 PM
                Subject: RE: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group


                >I agree with Tim. In my experience it is the only accurate DNA test for
                >family history. My family finder matches that I can confirm through other
                >means have been dead on exact. By contrast, my father and I according to
                >the Y DNA explanation "may be related within the genealogical time frame"
                >which means 700 years or so. FF says we are father/son. I am not
                >complaining but there appears to much more precision in automsomal testing.
                >Y DNA has become for me a means of eliminating which side the match comes
                >from and nothing more.
                >
                >
                > Sean Patrick Tracey
                > Tracey Law Firm
                > 440 Louisiana, Suite 1901
                > Houston, Texas 77002
                > 713-495-2333
                > 713-495-2331 (fax)
                > www.traceylawfirm.com
                >
                > Board Certified-Personal Injury Trial Law-Texas Board of Legal
                > Specialization
                > Certified Civil Trial Specialist-National Board of Trial Advocacy
                > American Board of Trial Advocates
                >
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                > ________________________________________
                > From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
                > Janzen [tjanzen@...]
                > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:41 PM
                > To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: RE: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group
                >
                > Dear Sam,
                > If you are trying to find your roots, I would suggest you pursue the
                > autosomal angle really hard. That might end up being more productive than
                > the Y chromosome testing. If I were in your situation I would immediately
                > transfer my 23andMe raw data over to the FTDNA Family Finder database and
                > I would also do the Ancestry.com DNA test. I would then carefully review
                > the closest matches in all three databases. I would then try testing
                > relatives of those contacts until I got close and closer to your nearest
                > relatives. There is also an adoption DNA list on Yahoo that is really
                > active and helpful.
                > Sincerely,
                > Tim Janzen
                >
                > From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                > Of sams1942
                > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:45 AM
                > To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group
                >
                >
                >
                > Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots.
                > I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit
                > #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe
                > Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:
                >
                > R1b - M343
                > R1b1 - P2 5
                > R1b1b - P297
                > R1b1b2 - S3, M269
                > R1b1b2a - L23, L49
                > R1b1b2a1 - L51
                > R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
                > R1b1b2a1a1 - M405
                >
                > I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a
                > surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.
                >
                > Sam
                >
                >
                >
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              • Sam Stimson
                Thanks to all. My 23andMe raw data has been transferred to FTDNA and listed in the Family Finder. Next step is off to Ancestry DNA and joining the U106 group
                Message 7 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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                  Thanks to all. My 23andMe raw data has been transferred to FTDNA and listed in the Family Finder. Next step is off to Ancestry DNA and joining the U106 group and the Adoptee group.

                  Sam


                  From: Sean P. Tracey <stracey@...>
                  To: "R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com" <R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com>
                  Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:37 PM
                  Subject: RE: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

                  I agree with Tim.  In my experience it is the only accurate DNA test for family history.  My family finder matches that I can confirm through other means have been dead on exact.  By contrast, my father and I according to the Y DNA explanation "may be related within the genealogical time frame"  which means 700 years or so.  FF says we are father/son.  I am not complaining but there appears to much more precision in automsomal testing.  Y DNA has become for me a means of eliminating which side the match comes from and nothing more.


                  Sean Patrick Tracey
                  Tracey Law Firm
                  440 Louisiana, Suite 1901
                  Houston, Texas 77002
                  713-495-2333
                  713-495-2331 (fax)
                  www.traceylawfirm.com

                  Board Certified-Personal Injury Trial Law-Texas Board of Legal Specialization
                  Certified Civil Trial Specialist-National Board of Trial Advocacy
                  American Board of Trial Advocates

                  Confidentiality Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this message in error and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in rel
                  ________________________________________
                  From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Janzen [tjanzen@...]
                  Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:41 PM
                  To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

                  Dear Sam,
                  If you are trying to find your roots, I would suggest you pursue the autosomal angle really hard.  That might end up being more productive than the Y chromosome testing.  If I were in your situation I would immediately transfer my 23andMe raw data over to the FTDNA Family Finder database and I would also do the Ancestry.com DNA test.  I would then carefully review the closest matches in all three databases.  I would then try testing relatives of those contacts until I got close and closer to your nearest relatives.  There is also an adoption DNA list on Yahoo that is really active and helpful.
                  Sincerely,
                  Tim Janzen

                  From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sams1942
                  Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:45 AM
                  To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group



                  Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:

                  R1b - M343
                  R1b1 - P2 5
                  R1b1b - P297
                  R1b1b2 - S3, M269
                  R1b1b2a - L23, L49
                  R1b1b2a1 - L51
                  R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
                  R1b1b2a1a1 - M405

                  I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.

                  Sam



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                • Douglas W. Fisher
                  Best of luck to you. ... From: Sam Stimson To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group Thanks to
                  Message 8 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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                    Best of luck to you.
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:34 PM
                    Subject: Re: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

                     

                    Thanks to all. My 23andMe raw data has been transferred to FTDNA and listed in the Family Finder. Next step is off to Ancestry DNA and joining the U106 group and the Adoptee group.

                    Sam


                    From: Sean P. Tracey <stracey@...>
                    To: "R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com" <R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:37 PM
                    Subject: RE: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

                    I agree with Tim.  In my experience it is the only accurate DNA test for family history.  My family finder matches that I can confirm through other means have been dead on exact.  By contrast, my father and I according to the Y DNA explanation "may be related within the genealogical time frame"  which means 700 years or so.  FF says we are father/son.  I am not complaining but there appears to much more precision in automsomal testing.  Y DNA has become for me a means of eliminating which side the match comes from and nothing more.


                    Sean Patrick Tracey
                    Tracey Law Firm
                    440 Louisiana, Suite 1901
                    Houston, Texas 77002
                    713-495-2333
                    713-495-2331 (fax)
                    www.traceylawfirm.com

                    Board Certified-Personal Injury Trial Law-Texas Board of Legal Specialization
                    Certified Civil Trial Specialist-National Board of Trial Advocacy
                    American Board of Trial Advocates

                    Confidentiality Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this message in error and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in rel
                    ________________________________________
                    From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Janzen [tjanzen@...]
                    Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:41 PM
                    To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group

                    Dear Sam,
                    If you are trying to find your roots, I would suggest you pursue the autosomal angle really hard.  That might end up being more productive than the Y chromosome testing.  If I were in your situation I would immediately transfer my 23andMe raw data over to the FTDNA Family Finder database and I would also do the Ancestry.com DNA test.  I would then carefully review the closest matches in all three databases.  I would then try testing relatives of those contacts until I got close and closer to your nearest relatives.  There is also an adoption DNA list on Yahoo that is really active and helpful.
                    Sincerely,
                    Tim Janzen

                    From: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sams1942
                    Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:45 AM
                    To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [R1b-YDNA] New to the Group



                    Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. I first went to 23andMe without much success. I have now submitted my kit #295314 for YDNA111 and mtDNA Full. I have also submitted my 23andMe Family finder data. According to 23and Me, my Haplogroup Tree is:

                    R1b - M343
                    R1b1 - P2 5
                    R1b1b - P297
                    R1b1b2 - S3, M269
                    R1b1b2a - L23, L49
                    R1b1b2a1 - L51
                    R1b1b2a1a - L52, P311, L11, P310
                    R1b1b2a1a1 - M405

                    I hope I have ordered all of the right tests and that someday I can find a surname. I have also sent in my Gen 2.0.

                    Sam



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                  • Donald Berry
                    Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots. Hello Sam, As a fellow adoptee, I can definitely relate to your desire to discover
                    Message 9 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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                      "Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots."

                      Hello Sam,

                      As a fellow adoptee, I can definitely relate to your desire to discover your biological heritage. Here are a few websites to visit, and the 2nd URL belongs to an excellent discussion group:

                      1) DNA Testing Advisor: http://www.dna-testing-adviser.com



                      All the best, and look forward to seeing you at DNAAdoption.


                      Donald 
                    • Douglas W. Fisher
                      I wish you much success, just had some breakthroughs recently myself. ... From: Donald Berry To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:37 PM
                      Message 10 of 11 , Jul 23, 2013
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                        I wish you much success, just had some breakthroughs recently myself.
                         
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:37 PM
                        Subject: [R1b-YDNA] Re: New to the Group

                         

                        "Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots."

                        Hello Sam,

                        As a fellow adoptee, I can definitely relate to your desire to discover your biological heritage. Here are a few websites to visit, and the 2nd URL belongs to an excellent discussion group:

                        1) DNA Testing Advisor: http://www.dna-testing-adviser.com



                        All the best, and look forward to seeing you at DNAAdoption.


                        Donald 

                      • Sam Stimson
                        Thanks Donald. I send my JOIN requests in today.   Sam Stimson, DBA Austin, Texas ________________________________ From: Donald Berry
                        Message 11 of 11 , Jul 24, 2013
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                          Thanks Donald. I send my JOIN requests in today.
                           
                          Sam Stimson, DBA
                          Austin, Texas


                          From: Donald Berry <bingereader@...>
                          To: R1b-YDNA@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:37 PM
                          Subject: [R1b-YDNA] Re: New to the Group

                           
                          "Hello everyone, my name is Sam and I am an adoptee looking for some roots."

                          Hello Sam,

                          As a fellow adoptee, I can definitely relate to your desire to discover your biological heritage. Here are a few websites to visit, and the 2nd URL belongs to an excellent discussion group:

                          1) DNA Testing Advisor: http://www.dna-testing-adviser.com

                          2) DNAADoption Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DNAAdoption/


                          All the best, and look forward to seeing you at DNAAdoption.


                          Donald 


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