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  • Joe Brock
    any other recommend test down from DF27? ________________________________ From: ajmarshnz To: R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com Sent:
    Message 1 of 6 , Jan 1, 2013
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      any other recommend test down from DF27?

      From: ajmarshnz <ajmarsh@...>
      To: R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:42 PM
      Subject: [R1b-P312-Project] Re: Still negatory...
       

      If you can order an upgrade before the new year, ftdna have a discounted price. I would do that if I was you. You could also test L617 which is under DF27, but I would upgrade to 111 markers first.

      So far L617 is found around Cambridgeshire/ East Anglian, but it appears to be more than 3,000 years old, so might turn up further afield.

      John.

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      > I'm in the same boat with you. I tested DF27+ a few weeks back and my Z196 test just came back negative.
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      > My tests are as follows: P312+ P310+ L51+ L23+ L150+ DF27+ Z196- U152- U106- M65- M228.2- M222- M160- M153- M126- L96- L4- L257- L226- L21- L20- L2- L196- L193- L176.2- L165- L159.2- L144- DF19-
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      > Anyone got any suggestions for us? How common is it to test DF27+ and Z196-? How many others are in this group?
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      > What is the next test in line? Would it be better for me to upgarde my Y-DNA test from 37 markers to 111?
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      > Thanks - Joe
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      > --- In mailto:R1b-P312-Project%40yahoogroups.com, "M.L. Devall" <thefoxxtrotter@> wrote:
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      > > The L1231 test came back negative as well.  May try another one later.
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      > > P312+ DF27+ Z196- U152- M65-
      > > M228.2- M160- M153- M126- L617- L6- L48- L47- L44- L4- L325- L257- L217- L21- L20- L2- L196- L193- L188- L176.2- L165- L164- L148- L1231- L1-
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      > > MLD
      > > FTDNA Kit #211058
      > > Ysearch:  78F7D
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    • Joe Brock
      Well I just ordered the upgrade to 111 from 37. Perhaps that will provide some new info.  I don t know how common it is, but I have 200+ perfect 12/12
      Message 2 of 6 , Jan 3, 2013
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        Well I just ordered the upgrade to 111 from 37. Perhaps that will provide some new info.  I don't know how common it is, but I have 200+ perfect 12/12 matches.   Many of those I do not match on Family Finder, so I assume the relationship must be distant. Then I have only one 25/25 match (which you would expect as he is my great uncle).  Then I have one 24/25 and one 36/37, both different surnames. 

        Joe
        From: Joe Brock <badger1973217@...>
        To: "R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com" <R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 2:55 PM
        Subject: Re: [R1b-P312-Project] Re: Still negatory...
         
        any other recommend test down from DF27?

        From: ajmarshnz <ajmarsh@...>
        To: R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:42 PM
        Subject: [R1b-P312-Project] Re: Still negatory...
         
        If you can order an upgrade before the new year, ftdna have a discounted price. I would do that if I was you. You could also test L617 which is under DF27, but I would upgrade to 111 markers first. So far L617 is found around Cambridgeshire/ East Anglian, but it appears to be more than 3,000 years old, so might turn up further afield. John.
        --- In mailto:R1b-P312-Project%40yahoogroups.com, "badger1973217" <jbrock159@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm in the same boat with you. I tested DF27+ a few weeks back and my Z196 test just came back negative. > > My tests are as follows: P312+ P310+ L51+ L23+ L150+ DF27+ Z196- U152- U106- M65- M228.2- M222- M160- M153- M126- L96- L4- L257- L226- L21- L20- L2- L196- L193- L176.2- L165- L159.2- L144- DF19- > > Anyone got any suggestions for us? How common is it to test DF27+ and Z196-? How many others are in this group? > > What is the next test in line? Would it be better for me to upgarde my Y-DNA test from 37 markers to 111? > > Thanks - Joe > > > > --- In mailto:R1b-P312-Project%40yahoogroups.com, "M.L. Devall" <thefoxxtrotter@> wrote: > > > > The L1231 test came back negative as well.  May try another one later. > > > > > > P312+ DF27+ Z196- U152- M65- > > M228.2- M160- M153- M126- L617- L6- L48- L47- L44- L4- L325- L257- L217- L21- L20- L2- L196- L193- L188- L176.2- L165- L164- L148- L1231- L1- > > > > MLD > > FTDNA Kit #211058 > > Ysearch:  78F7D > > >
         
      • Jim White
        Hi Joe: Welcome to the club !! I have 2832 matches with a perfect 12/12 match, with none of them being a close match, and none making it to the 67, or 111
        Message 3 of 6 , Jan 3, 2013
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          Hi Joe:
           
          Welcome to the club !!
           
          I have 2832 matches with a perfect 12/12 match, with none of them being a close match, and none making it to the 67, or 111 marker match group.
           
          Jim
           
           
           
          From: Joe Brock
          Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:03 PM
          Subject: Re: [R1b-P312-Project] Re: Still negatory...
           
           

          Well I just ordered the upgrade to 111 from 37. Perhaps that will provide some new info.  I don't know how common it is, but I have 200+ perfect 12/12 matches.   Many of those I do not match on Family Finder, so I assume the relationship must be distant. Then I have only one 25/25 match (which you would expect as he is my great uncle).  Then I have one 24/25 and one 36/37, both different surnames.

          Joe
          From: Joe Brock <badger1973217@...>
          To: "R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com" <R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 2:55 PM
          Subject: Re: [R1b-P312-Project] Re: Still negatory...
           
          any other recommend test down from DF27?
           
          From: ajmarshnz <ajmarsh@...>
          To: R1b-P312-Project@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 9:42 PM
          Subject: [R1b-P312-Project] Re: Still negatory...
           
          If you can order an upgrade before the new year, ftdna have a discounted price. I would do that if I was you. You could also test L617 which is under DF27, but I would upgrade to 111 markers first. So far L617 is found around Cambridgeshire/ East Anglian, but it appears to be more than 3,000 years old, so might turn up further afield. John. --- In mailto:R1b-P312-Project%40yahoogroups.com, "badger1973217" <jbrock159@...> wrote: > > > > >
          > > > > > I'm in the same boat with you.
          I tested DF27+ a few weeks back and my Z196 test just came back negative. > > My tests are as follows: P312+ P310+ L51+ L23+ L150+ DF27+ Z196- U152- U106- M65- M228.2- M222- M160- M153- M126- L96- L4- L257- L226- L21- L20- L2- L196- L193- L176.2- L165- L159.2- L144- DF19- > > Anyone got any suggestions for us? How common is it to test DF27+ and Z196-? How many others are in this group? > > What is the next test in line? Would it be better for me to upgarde my Y-DNA test from 37 markers to 111? >
          > Thanks - Joe > > > > --- In
          href="mailto:R1b-P312-Project%40yahoogroups.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:R1b-P312-Project%40yahoogroups.com">mailto:R1b-P312-Project%40yahoogroups.com, "M.L. Devall" <thefoxxtrotter@> wrote: > > > > The L1231 test came back negative as well.  May try another one later.
          > > > > > > P312+
          class=mark>DF27+ Z196- U152- M65- > > M228.2- M160- M153- M126- L617- L6- L48- L47- L44- L4- L325- L257- L217- L21- L20- L2- L196- L193- L188- L176.2- L165- L164- L148- L1231- L1- > > > > MLD > > FTDNA Kit #211058 > > Ysearch:  78F7D > > >
           
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