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476Re: Kantronics, Kam XL

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  • Paul David Gregg, KD4IDR
    Oct 12, 2006
      --- In Q15X25@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <vk4akp@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi guys, sorry it's been a while since I checked this group.
      >
      > Here's a bit of an update.
      >
      > From what I have heard the mode works fine. The only reason it doesn't
      > have better support (YET) is that there are no simple hardware
      > platforms available for it. This is why I was hoping to see Kantronics
      > include the mode in their Kam XL. After all the XL bosts DSP
      > technology and is the only TNC I know of currently on the market
      > suitable.
      >
      > It is disapointing to say the least that years later nothing has been
      > done to offer more modern DSP modes in this TNC, after all it is it's
      > main claim to fame. Flash upgradable with the latest modes etc etc.
      >
      > Currently I receive no replies from Kantronics when emailing them
      > about this. It has been over a year now since they first started
      > development on the mode for their TNC.
      >
      > My current info from the grape vine is that they don't have a lot of
      > interest in supporting the Amateur market for their product as money
      > is more forthcomming from the commercial sector.
      >
      > This in it's self is very sad and bad news for us.
      >
      > So what does the future hold?
      >
      > I myself am currently looking at using USB sound card dongles chained
      > off a dedicated PC. Power usage is of course going to be horrific and
      > exactly the path I didn't want to go down as it will exclude such
      > setups on hilltops etc where power is usually provided by solar
      > panels. But what can you do. A TNC solution at present is going no
      where.
      >
      > Long term, there is no reason why a developers group couldn't look at
      > a alternative open source image for the Kam XL. While Kantronics do
      > not seem interested in making their code open source. I can't see any
      > reason why if a group started from scratch on their own version an
      > alternative could be developed that supports not only Q15X25 packet
      > but all the other packet modes and speeds currently so sadly missing
      > from the XL. This sort of thing has been done for everything from the
      > TinyTrack to DVD recorders. Where the original designers have let the
      > consumer down, people have picked up the torch and turned a great yet
      > lacking device into a killer product by getting together with other
      > like minded users and writing their own firmware.
      >
      > So if anyone is interested in this and has programming ability. Please
      > contact me vk4akp@... and perhaps we can start a developers
      > group to do just this.
      >
      > In the mean time all my Kam XL's will go back into moth balls and I
      > guess I will start to go down the USB sound card trail.
      >
      > Keep in mind that until a newer mode is invented, other then 1200 baud
      > PSK, Q15X25 is currently the only other option available to anyone
      > wanting to run packet on HF at a higher baudrate then the traditional
      > 300 Baud. I have also heard of people running G3RUH at 4800 baud on
      > 21Mhz. But once again, I don't know of any current TNC technology
      > available to do this.
      >
      > As I've pointed out to Kantronics, what they really need is for the
      > packet mode to be an independant setting to the baud rate. That way
      > the device is far more flexable for things like HF and Satelite work.
      > Once again, I won't hold my breath.
      >
      > Anyhow, I'd be interested to hear who's QRV in this mode and on what
      > frequencies etc currently.
      >
      > Regards,
      > Ken - VK4AKP
      > .-.-.
      >
      > --- In Q15X25@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Thile \(K4SET\)" <k4set@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hello all,
      > >
      > > This mode never really worked all that well, and from what I can
      > tell has
      > > more of less died. We only see occasional posts here. Maybe one of
      two a
      > > month asking what's up....
      > >
      > > Forgive me if I am mistaken, but I doubt it will be worth developing
      > on the
      > > XL as it is simply not viable in its current state of development
      on any
      > > platform.
      > >
      > > Great idea, just didn't pan out and as far as I know, the developers
      > in it
      > > have lost interest. I think there is potential, but that is all
      > there is at
      > > this point.
      > >
      > > 73 and 75, Scott, K4SET
      > >
      > > >-----Original Message-----
      > > >From: Q15X25@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q15X25@yahoogroups.com]
      > > >On Behalf Of Ken
      > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:56 AM
      > > >To: Q15X25@yahoogroups.com
      > > >Subject: [Q15X25] Re: Kantronics, Kam XL
      > > >
      > > >The Kam XL is a DSP TNC. The Tech at Kantronics tells me that
      > > >it would be possible! The next step is to try and get the
      > > >author to contact Kantronics and give permission for it's use.
      > > >
      > > >They also query wether the mode is too wide to be allowd in the US?
      > > >
      > > >Please everyone, help to make this happen!
      > > >
      > > >THis would mean many HF Gateways using the Kam XL's (Very
      > > >popular) would become available. Q15X25 would become most
      > > >popular and common place on HF!
      > > >
      > > >Regards,
      > > >Ken.
      > > >.-.-.
      > > >
      > >
      >


      Ken,

      You should post this to the kantronics group. We have kantronics tech
      support in there now. Maybe you can get them to help.

      http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kantronics/message/282

      paul
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