476Re: Kantronics, Kam XL
- Oct 12, 2006--- In Q15X25@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <vk4akp@...> wrote:
> Hi guys, sorry it's been a while since I checked this group.
> Here's a bit of an update.
> From what I have heard the mode works fine. The only reason it doesn't
> have better support (YET) is that there are no simple hardware
> platforms available for it. This is why I was hoping to see Kantronics
> include the mode in their Kam XL. After all the XL bosts DSP
> technology and is the only TNC I know of currently on the market
> It is disapointing to say the least that years later nothing has been
> done to offer more modern DSP modes in this TNC, after all it is it's
> main claim to fame. Flash upgradable with the latest modes etc etc.
> Currently I receive no replies from Kantronics when emailing them
> about this. It has been over a year now since they first started
> development on the mode for their TNC.
> My current info from the grape vine is that they don't have a lot of
> interest in supporting the Amateur market for their product as money
> is more forthcomming from the commercial sector.
> This in it's self is very sad and bad news for us.
> So what does the future hold?
> I myself am currently looking at using USB sound card dongles chained
> off a dedicated PC. Power usage is of course going to be horrific and
> exactly the path I didn't want to go down as it will exclude such
> setups on hilltops etc where power is usually provided by solar
> panels. But what can you do. A TNC solution at present is going no
> Long term, there is no reason why a developers group couldn't look at
> a alternative open source image for the Kam XL. While Kantronics do
> not seem interested in making their code open source. I can't see any
> reason why if a group started from scratch on their own version an
> alternative could be developed that supports not only Q15X25 packet
> but all the other packet modes and speeds currently so sadly missing
> from the XL. This sort of thing has been done for everything from the
> TinyTrack to DVD recorders. Where the original designers have let the
> consumer down, people have picked up the torch and turned a great yet
> lacking device into a killer product by getting together with other
> like minded users and writing their own firmware.
> So if anyone is interested in this and has programming ability. Please
> contact me vk4akp@... and perhaps we can start a developers
> group to do just this.
> In the mean time all my Kam XL's will go back into moth balls and I
> guess I will start to go down the USB sound card trail.
> Keep in mind that until a newer mode is invented, other then 1200 baud
> PSK, Q15X25 is currently the only other option available to anyone
> wanting to run packet on HF at a higher baudrate then the traditional
> 300 Baud. I have also heard of people running G3RUH at 4800 baud on
> 21Mhz. But once again, I don't know of any current TNC technology
> available to do this.
> As I've pointed out to Kantronics, what they really need is for the
> packet mode to be an independant setting to the baud rate. That way
> the device is far more flexable for things like HF and Satelite work.
> Once again, I won't hold my breath.
> Anyhow, I'd be interested to hear who's QRV in this mode and on what
> frequencies etc currently.
> Ken - VK4AKP
> --- In Q15X25@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Thile \(K4SET\)" <k4set@> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > This mode never really worked all that well, and from what I can
> tell has
> > more of less died. We only see occasional posts here. Maybe one of
> > month asking what's up....on any
> > Forgive me if I am mistaken, but I doubt it will be worth developing
> on the
> > XL as it is simply not viable in its current state of development
> > platform.Ken,
> > Great idea, just didn't pan out and as far as I know, the developers
> in it
> > have lost interest. I think there is potential, but that is all
> there is at
> > this point.
> > 73 and 75, Scott, K4SET
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Q15X25@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q15X25@yahoogroups.com]
> > >On Behalf Of Ken
> > >Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:56 AM
> > >To: Q15X25@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [Q15X25] Re: Kantronics, Kam XL
> > >
> > >The Kam XL is a DSP TNC. The Tech at Kantronics tells me that
> > >it would be possible! The next step is to try and get the
> > >author to contact Kantronics and give permission for it's use.
> > >
> > >They also query wether the mode is too wide to be allowd in the US?
> > >
> > >Please everyone, help to make this happen!
> > >
> > >THis would mean many HF Gateways using the Kam XL's (Very
> > >popular) would become available. Q15X25 would become most
> > >popular and common place on HF!
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Ken.
> > >.-.-.
> > >
You should post this to the kantronics group. We have kantronics tech
support in there now. Maybe you can get them to help.
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