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Re: [Precolumbian_Inscriptions] INCA LAND

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  • mike white
    Mr. Safford says in his article on the Identity of Cohoba (Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences, Sept. 19, 1916): The most remarkable fact
    Message 1 of 2 , Feb 5, 2007
        ' Mr. Safford says in his article on the “Identity of Cohoba” (Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences, Sept. 19, 1916): “The most remarkable fact connected with Piptadenia peregrina, or ‘tree-tobacco’ is that... the source of its intoxicating properties still remains unknown.” One of the bifurcated tubes, “in the first stages of manufacture,” was found at Machu Picchu. ' 
         bingham's vilcabamba seems to best fit the chronicles.  i need to reread savoy's reasons for thinking another area was meant. 
        maybe im wrong but my hunch is that ' Uiticos ' and utica of greece had the same magyar root. there are many other examples seen on old maps. 
         he speaks of 3 vilcabambas. 
        he preferred tea over cold water, claiming the latter brought on mountain sickness.  sugar is craved on the puno. 
         [ if the andes arose millions of years ago i think that events such as ponding water in basins prior to cutting channels, and salt flats, and signs of former benches on the hills, would have long ago disappeared.  we certainly would not see ruins and human bones below the gravel deposits. ] 
         ' He said he had found the pots in the jungle not far away. They had been made by the Incas. Four of them were of the familiar aryballus type. Another was of a closely related form, having a wide mouth, pointed base, single incised, conventionalized, animal-head nubbin attached to the shoulder, and band-shaped handles attached vertically below the median line. Although capable of holding more than ten gallons, this huge pot was intended to be carried on the back and shoulders by means of a rope passing through the handles and around the nubbin. Saavedra said that he had found near his house several bottle-shaped cists lined with stones, with a flat stone on top — evidently ancient graves. The bones had entirely disappeared. The cover of one of the graves had been pierced; the hole covered with a thin sheet of beaten silver. He had also found a few stone implements and two or three small bronze Inca axes. '  [note bronze] 
         ' The last Amautas flourished about 800 A.D. '
        ' The Amautas had been ruling the Peruvian highlands for about sixty generations '
        ' Many of the agricultural and engineering feats which we ordinarily assign to the Incas were really achievements of the Amautas. The last of the Amautas was Pachacuti VI ' 
         [ he loses me here by assuming the amautas were not inca.  as i recall the inca sages or wizards were known as amautas until the conquest.  much like the magi of the magyar.  he has cuzco as their capital.  its true montesinos spoke of various royal blood lines and capitals, as if dynasties. ] 
        ' built a new city at “Tampu-tocco.” Here they kept alive the memory of the Amautas '
       [ its like there was a dark age after the regime of pachacuti 6 fell to an invasion from the south and east, but all were inca.  this lapse must confuse moderns into giving a short history to the inca.]
         ' One of the most enlightened rulers of Tampu-tocco was a king called Tupac Cauri, or Pachacuti VII. In his day people began to write on the leaves of trees. ' 
        ' Tupac Cauri was told by his soothsayers that the matter which most displeased the gods was the invention of writing. Thereupon he forbade anybody to practice writing, under penalty of death. This mandate was observed with such strictness that the ancient folk never again used letters. Instead, they used quipus, strings and knots. '  [difficult to accept that writing developed and was lost in one generation.] 
        ' The Spaniards who asked about Tampu-tocco were told that it was at or near Paccaritampu, a small town eight or ten miles south of Cuzco. I learned that ruins are very scarce in its vicinity. ' 
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