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  • mike white
    ... From: mike white To: Ancient-Mysteries@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 11:10 AM Subject: [Ancient-Mysteries] ramases chronology cayce 294-8
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      cayce
       
      294-8
      23. In the plane before this, we find that as known in the dynasty of the Rameses or Pharaohs in Egypt, and in the Court and rule of the Second Pharaoh [341] or Rameses, [10,500 B.C.] and was at that time the high priest of the cult as gave the religious element and force in the age, and reached the heights in that dynasty, yet was cut short in the allowing of physical forces and desires to enter in, and the taking of the daughter [538] of the order of the one who offered the sacrifices for the priest's force, and going or leaving the shores of this country brought the destructive elements to the body.
       
         i had neglected to find this info in cayce, but had came to the conclusion by another route, that those before the ramases dynasty were atlantean.  most who have seen the mummy reported to be ramases the great, say that he had semitic features.  by definition, this would date him after the time of abraham, that even i have difficulty dating before 6000 bce.  adjustments may need to be made. 
         the readings seem to tell us that the ramases dynasty was founded by the shepherd kings from carpathia, maybe called the hyksos, that followed soon after the atlanteans.  calling them semitic may be a fallacy, they were of the white race, and had been in carpathia long before the ancestors of abraham had ventured from india to ur.  abraham may be a corruption of a brahman. 
         this is in accord with the poleshift dating that i reviewed, based on the alignments noted in the two building phases at amarna. 
         its difficult to see the works of ra ta in the time of ramases the great.  the ramases were thought to have returned egypt to its former worship.  the title has the name 'ra' within it, which is as one might expect from that era.  seeing 'ram' may have been an error.  im unsure if ra was worshipped before that time, it may have been the deification of ra ta.  before his time, the chief deity may have been Amen or Aten.  not sure when Osiris reigned, for the wife of ra ta was isis.  could ra ta and Osiris be one and the same?  his works may indicate that he was the savior or chief avatar of that era.  maybe orion holds a shepherds staff, not a bow. 
       
         i will be reviewing the readings as time allows. 
       
      mike
       
       

    • mike white
      ... From: mike white To: Ancient-Mysteries@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [Ancient-Mysteries] ramases chronology in the
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           in the remainder of 294-8 it tells us that the incarnation as ra ta was that soul's first entry into mortality.  man enters the earth first as near perfection, like adam, able to walk and talk with the Creator.  he/she usually degrades from there.  for millions of years, ra ta remained in heaven.  there were only a few incarnations down to that of cayce.  he served humanity well in three of his lives. 
           years ago, i was asked by a stranger, who said she was doing research, what was the location of the city 'by the hills and the plains'.  not knowing her purpose, i didnt tell her.  i give it now as about 7 miles south of the modern town of shustar, iran.  in a cave there, lies relics and the bones of cayce from that life.  if found, i would ask to be remembered, and be given the wand found there as a reward.  abuse of those objects may bring harmful forces. 
           using sources like cayce for profit, as in finding treasures, seldom if ever succeeded.  information that i have given, if found correct, must be used with the same cautions, as i owe much to the cayce readings for guidance.  the good of the many, and the rightful owners must be foremost in mind.  this certainly applies to the gold of the andes.  those who abuse same would be better had they not been born.  the relics belong to humanity for study, while the gold belongs mostly to the poor natives.   be good to pipe their gas to each town for heating.  spain in the end profitted little from all that treasure. 
         
        470-10
         " 8. (Q) Would a study of any particular part of "The Secret Doctrine" [H. P. Blavatsky] be of benefit?
        (A) The study of any portion of same is of benefit, but only in so far as it will enable the self to open for that which may be given in its
        meditation. "
         
           despite official confidence, the kings list of egypt is murky.  i will try to reason it out a little.  by the anatomy, tut was the last of the atlantean pharaohs.  then they talk of the hyksos ruling from the city of avaris in the delta.  seti is given as the predecessor of ramases the great, who built his capitol atop the ruins at avaris, and changed its name. 
           both the hyksos and carpathian rule of egypt was short-lived, a few centuries, with a short list of pharaohs.  they may have been one and the same. 
           the great pyramid and others at giza were built by the ramases dynasty.  the exodus happened 5,000 years after that dynasty. 
           the sed festival was the regeneration of the pharaoh in the gp, transforming him into a god, washing away his sins, and extending his life.  it was supposed to be held after 30 years reign, but ramases two had it every three years.  it could extend life indefinitely.  ra ta may have used it to live a few hundred years.  vague remarks in the readings led me to think that some of them lived thousands of years.  one who was responsible for the 2nd destruction of atlantis in 24,000 bce, was mentioned as assisting in egypt circa 10,500 bce.  the sed festival was later forgotten and corrupted into a silly farce.  the pharaohs of the ramases could have ruled for much longer than thought.  they allow 66 years for ramases two, but it could have been centuries. 
           kadesh is a second candidate for the site of ophir.  this would account for the great battles fought for it. 
           nine other pharaohs bore the name of ramases, after ramases two. 
        short reigns were reported.  i wonder if ramases, might be more correct as ra-moses.  in the midst of the ramases pharaohs were five rulers who did not adopt that name. 
           libyan dynasties ruled after the ramases.  they use the term vaguely, not determining if the power center was at tunis, nubia, or ethiopia.  this culture was advanced due to the exile that ra ta spent there.  this was before either the semites or carthage arose. 

        mike
         
         

      • mike white
        ... From: mike white To: Ancient-Mysteries@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Ancient-Mysteries] ramases chronology cayce
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          cayce
          5717-5
          Before this in [Prehistory?] Rameses II, the forces were that of the Priest [Ra-Ta] who became the outcast from the court, yet the remains were cast in this tomb.
           
             rameses two was perhaps the most vain of the pharaohs, yet he didnt carve his name on the great pyramid.  perhaps, because it wasnt actually built by him.  it would be wrong and sacriligious to steal the credit due to Hermes and Ra Ta. 
           
          136-1
          13. In the one before this we find in the Egyptian forces, when the Pharaohs were in that land, and under the second shepherd King, or second Pharaoh, we find the entity, in that entity then known as Isiso [Ra-Ta period - See 341-10, Par 5-A, on 6/2/25.
           
             this confirms that the ramases were the line of the shepherd kings. 
          the hyksos were called the shepherd kings, coming from armenia, i suppose. 
           
          2550-1
          40. The entity then was the daughter of pharaoh, and a sister of Bithiah who nurtured and brought up Moses as her son.
           
          49. (Q) Please give the name of the pharaoh who was the father of the entity.
          (A) Rameses. Rameses II.

             this has the appearance of conflict and error.  we have readings that place rameses two at 10,500 bce.  another that gives 5500 bce for exodus.  now, we are told rameses two was the pharaoh during the exodus.  it would seem that he was 5,000 years old, when the red sea closed on him, ending his life.  its known that this pharaoh out-lived most of his hundreds of children.  he built kv5 as a tomb for them.  all i can say, is that it was possible then using sed festival regeneration, to live that long.  its a bit hard to believe, that exposed to the teaching then available, and purified, that he would not see the hand of God in those activities.  i admit great surprise at this!  i did find a single place in the bible that said a ramases ruled during the exodus.  apparently, the body of ramases two was recovered, for our lads claim to have his mummy.  no mention that he drowned. 
             its possible that extended reigns of the ramases dynasty may have led to the chronology problems in the kings list of egypt.  even today, few could accept such a long lifespan. 

          mike
           
           

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