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  • aumsparky@earthlink.net
    the late dr hugh fox discovered themes of heracles labors on mochica pottery. he examined the fuente magna in the corner of a museum basement in la paz, he
    Message 1 of 3 , Apr 20 8:11 PM
       
         the late dr hugh fox discovered themes of heracles' labors on mochica pottery.  he examined the fuente magna in the corner of a museum basement in la paz, he noted the phoenician script, but overlooked the theme of baby heracles strangling the serpents.  its sad that he died last year, before i could add more in support of the ideas we share. 
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
         if indeed, there are themes of the labors of heracles on moche pottery, we will be forced to rethink the culture of the moche, and their later offshoot the chimu. 
         montesinos said that the chimu were giants who landed along the coast of peru, particularly at the north near trujillo.  if the moche were their ancestors, as many scholars report, why did the earliest report not say the giants were called the moche, instead of chimu?  these giants arrived by rafts, not the triremes that would have been used by the greeks or phoenicians. 
         im inclined to believe that the giants were native to south america, riding the humboldt current north on rafts to avoid the atacama desert.  that they dominated natives along the coast from lima to guayaquil, becoming the ruling class. 
         the heracles traditions were probably diffused to them later by the carian settlers near cuenca, called caras, or the canares, or were brought by phoenician traders or settlers.  montesinos told of tyrian and phoenicians settlers who came in waves over the ages, some over the andes, others from the coast.
       
      mike
       
       
    • enrico mattievich
      *The first author that proposed the Phoenician contact in South America was the erudite Dominican, friar Gregorio García: Chapter XXI. Of the ninth Opinion,
      Message 2 of 3 , Apr 21 4:08 AM
        The first author that proposed the Phoenician contact in South America was the erudite Dominican, friar Gregorio García: Chapter XXI. Of the ninth Opinion, where it is proved that the Indian come from the Greeks (p. 189 to 192) and Chapter XXII. Of the tenth Opinion, where it is proved that the Indians come from the Phoenicians (p. 192 to 239). " Origen de los Indios del Nuevo Mundo" by Gregorio García.  Fondo de Cultura Economica, Mexico, 1981. "Origin of the Indians of the New World" is a facsimile edition from the first edition published in Spain, Valencia, 1607.
        Enrico Mattievich


         
        2012/4/21 <aumsparky@...>
         

         
           the late dr hugh fox discovered themes of heracles' labors on mochica pottery.  he examined the fuente magna in the corner of a museum basement in la paz, he noted the phoenician script, but overlooked the theme of baby heracles strangling the serpents.  its sad that he died last year, before i could add more in support of the ideas we share. 
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
           if indeed, there are themes of the labors of heracles on moche pottery, we will be forced to rethink the culture of the moche, and their later offshoot the chimu. 
           montesinos said that the chimu were giants who landed along the coast of peru, particularly at the north near trujillo.  if the moche were their ancestors, as many scholars report, why did the earliest report not say the giants were called the moche, instead of chimu?  these giants arrived by rafts, not the triremes that would have been used by the greeks or phoenicians. 
           im inclined to believe that the giants were native to south america, riding the humboldt current north on rafts to avoid the atacama desert.  that they dominated natives along the coast from lima to guayaquil, becoming the ruling class. 
           the heracles traditions were probably diffused to them later by the carian settlers near cuenca, called caras, or the canares, or were brought by phoenician traders or settlers.  montesinos told of tyrian and phoenicians settlers who came in waves over the ages, some over the andes, others from the coast.
         
        mike
         
         


      • enrico mattievich
        See CAP. XXII. De la decima Opinion, donde se prueba que los indios proceden de Fenicianos: http://americaindigena.com/garcia10.htm 2012/4/21 enrico mattievich
        Message 3 of 3 , Apr 21 7:39 AM
          See CAP. XXII. De la decima Opinion, donde se prueba que los indios proceden de Fenicianos:
           


           
          2012/4/21 enrico mattievich <enrico.mattievich@...>
          The first author that proposed the Phoenician contact in South America was the erudite Dominican, friar Gregorio García: Chapter XXI. Of the ninth Opinion, where it is proved that the Indian come from the Greeks (p. 189 to 192) and Chapter XXII. Of the tenth Opinion, where it is proved that the Indians come from the Phoenicians (p. 192 to 239). " Origen de los Indios del Nuevo Mundo" by Gregorio García.  Fondo de Cultura Economica, Mexico, 1981. "Origin of the Indians of the New World" is a facsimile edition from the first edition published in Spain, Valencia, 1607.
          Enrico Mattievich


           
          2012/4/21 <aumsparky@...>

           

           
             the late dr hugh fox discovered themes of heracles' labors on mochica pottery.  he examined the fuente magna in the corner of a museum basement in la paz, he noted the phoenician script, but overlooked the theme of baby heracles strangling the serpents.  its sad that he died last year, before i could add more in support of the ideas we share. 
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
           
             if indeed, there are themes of the labors of heracles on moche pottery, we will be forced to rethink the culture of the moche, and their later offshoot the chimu. 
             montesinos said that the chimu were giants who landed along the coast of peru, particularly at the north near trujillo.  if the moche were their ancestors, as many scholars report, why did the earliest report not say the giants were called the moche, instead of chimu?  these giants arrived by rafts, not the triremes that would have been used by the greeks or phoenicians. 
             im inclined to believe that the giants were native to south america, riding the humboldt current north on rafts to avoid the atacama desert.  that they dominated natives along the coast from lima to guayaquil, becoming the ruling class. 
             the heracles traditions were probably diffused to them later by the carian settlers near cuenca, called caras, or the canares, or were brought by phoenician traders or settlers.  montesinos told of tyrian and phoenicians settlers who came in waves over the ages, some over the andes, others from the coast.
           
          mike
           
           



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