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  • mike white
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/tiahuanaco/posnansky5.htm im rereading the sample chapters of posnansky s book on tiwanaku, since the book is
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 1, 2007
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         im rereading the sample chapters of posnansky's book on tiwanaku, since the book is almost impossible to buy.  after years of trying, i found only 2 used copies in spanish for $449 each. 
         the detractors and critics did a good job of suppressing his book.  if one looks deeper into the matter, its clear that the critics were unqualified to challenge his ideas.  posnansky brought in the most qualified people to check his conclusions, and after years of research the german scientists agreed with his premises. 
         his work shows that the temple of the sun was created using sophisticated mathematics and astronomical observations.  the ancient sages did a superior job of locating the exact meridian, more exact than the french team at quito in the 18th c. 
         posnansky worked at tiwanaku for over 30 years, and he identified three periods of construction, widely separated in time.  the second era was between 14,000 and 10,000 bce.  from his comments it appears that the altiplano was already uplifted, but the eastern range had not arose yet.  this is in accord with the findings of other geologists, who claim that the eastern range was last to be uplifted, but posit it happened mya, as usual. 
         i was disapponted that author considered titicaca to be a glacial lake.  even the greatest scientists can make a mistake sometimes.
         its a shame that the experts in identifying ancient marine creatures and their remains show no interest in examing the ancient shorelines and sediments of titicaca.  i recently tried to get a few of them to join our discussions, but they declined, not realizing the importance of the work and discoveries that could be made.  in the hereafter we will all be ashamed to admit we lived in the 20th and 21st centuries, the dark ages of science.  over-turning false notions is perhaps more important than making entirely new discoveries. 
       
       
      Kind regards,
      Mike White
      http://all-ez.com/yahoo-groups.htm
       
       
    • mike white
      so much of tiwanaku has been destroyed and looted to build modern structures and the railroad, that one might do well to examine the blocks used on these
      Message 2 of 3 , Aug 1, 2007
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           so much of tiwanaku has been destroyed and looted to build modern structures and the railroad, that one might do well to examine the blocks used on these constructions along the railroad, its bridges, structures in the village of tiwanaku, and the churches of la paz.  they probably turned carved and inscribed surfaces in, making it difficult to determine much now, but protecting the surfaces for later observers.  just a matter of time before quakes throw these modern buildings down, and i for one wont mourn their loss, for what may be gained in studying the stolen blocks from tiwanaku.  posnansky stated that the government and public in 1939 thought it good to rob the ruins, and opposed his efforts to preserve them. 
           its interesting that each of the three phases of building at tiwanaku was interrupted by cataclysm, leaving structures unfinished. 
           red sandstone was used in the first phase, and hard andesite blocks were used in the last two phases of work at tiwanaku.  he talks of the great wear from the erosion of time on the blocks of the first two stages, and the third phase shows much less wear, suggesting the great amount of time needed for the erosion present.  even if his astronomical dates were flawed, its impossible to deny the great age of these carved blocks from the wear of time itself.  these blocks were buried for thousands of years, yet still show so much erosion from exposure before their burial. 
           he mentions that the flora and fauna are radically different now from those depicted at tiwanaku.  the marine specimen found among the ruins are very different from those now in titicaca.  deep in the ruins human skulls were found entirely fossilized. 
           he held that titicaca was smaller in extent in ancient times.  modern scholars say the opposite. 
           the metal alloys used for clamps holding blocks together was cast into bells for the church of tiwanaku.  perhaps metalurgists may learn something by examining the bells. 
           author contradicts himself by saying the waters of titicaca have receded 20km, and dropped almost 35m from the wharves of tiwanaku.  the altiplano has fallen toward the south since the height of tiwanaku, draining much of the lake, and so long ago traces have disappeared. 
           its clear that posnansky used the same astronomical formula to ascertain the age of the first stage of tiwanaku, but would not publish it.  his citing of 15,000 bce for the second phase destroyed his career. 
           [i bet the first structures were built between 50,000 and 40,000 bce.  they used red sandstone then, probably near sealevel.  it was a result of the pacific cataclysm that the andesite was formed around the ring of fire.] 
           [memberships may decline by my statements, but im proud to be a free thinker, and posterity can be the judge of what portion were valid and cutting-edge. ] 
           as author pointed out, there was certainly a dense population at tiwanaku, that could not have been maintained had it been at its present elevation. 
         
        mike 
         
         
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           im rereading the sample chapters of posnansky's book on tiwanaku, since the book is almost impossible to buy.  after years of trying, i found only 2 used copies in spanish for $449 each. 
           the detractors and critics did a good job of suppressing his book.  if one looks deeper into the matter, its clear that the critics were unqualified to challenge his ideas.  posnansky brought in the most qualified people to check his conclusions, and after years of research the german scientists agreed with his premises. 
           his work shows that the temple of the sun was created using sophisticated mathematics and astronomical observations.  the ancient sages did a superior job of locating the exact meridian, more exact than the french team at quito in the 18th c. 
           posnansky worked at tiwanaku for over 30 years, and he identified three periods of construction, widely separated in time.  the second era was between 14,000 and 10,000 bce.  from his comments it appears that the altiplano was already uplifted, but the eastern range had not arose yet.  this is in accord with the findings of other geologists, who claim that the eastern range was last to be uplifted, but posit it happened mya, as usual. 
           i was disapponted that author considered titicaca to be a glacial lake.  even the greatest scientists can make a mistake sometimes.
           its a shame that the experts in identifying ancient marine creatures and their remains show no interest in examing the ancient shorelines and sediments of titicaca.  i recently tried to get a few of them to join our discussions, but they declined, not realizing the importance of the work and discoveries that could be made.  in the hereafter we will all be ashamed to admit we lived in the 20th and 21st centuries, the dark ages of science.  over-turning false notions is perhaps more important than making entirely new discoveries. 
         
         
         
         


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      • jdaintira@aol.com
        Thank you for sharing this on, Mike. Too bad no one is republishing these. I would think that the copyright was now in the public domain. ~Judith Marie
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          Thank  you for sharing this on, Mike.
           
          Too bad no one is republishing these. I would think that the copyright was now in the public domain.
           
          ~Judith Marie




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