12102Re: [Precolumbian_Inscriptions] amazons
- Jun 11, 2013Graves and bones & teeth. For instance Egyin Gol cemetery/Xiongnu grave number 25A is my ancestor. There are many haplotypes especially among Diaguita J1 and J2 matching to the Middle East.
On 10 June 2013 17:44, mike white <michael.white511@...> wrote:how can researchers be certain that the dna they tested, was from 'the people who made tihuanaco'? i don't dispute that there were jews in the andes in prehistoric times.mike----- Original Message -----From: Seppo TiusanenSent: Monday, June 10, 2013 9:02 AMSubject: Re: [Precolumbian_Inscriptions] amazons
Hi my friend,
Sources? I have sources more than 35 pages in my book made during 8 years in Central America, but I will find pretty soon this source to you.
How is it possible that people who made Tihuanaco have 31% mtDNA "other" than mtDNA A, B,C, D, and X2 from Israel?
How is it possible that Diaguita tribe of Inca had a chief called Chalem? Jerusalem was duriing Abraham "URU SHALEM" Uru was a god of daylight and still in the language of Lupaca/Aymara it has a meaning of "day".
SeppoOn 9 June 2013 09:47, iduff Gwinnutt <iduffgwinnutt@...> wrote:Greetings Seppo!
Your comment about the " Dna of South American Indians,,etc.." what studies/ and where is the source for this please??
DuffWe know enough about DNA of South American IndiansTihuanaco was constructed by people who had 31% mtDNA ouside the official Amerindian mtDNA, A, B, C, D, X2?
Saludos, SeppoOn 8 June 2013 00:59, mike white <michael.white511@...> wrote:amazonsfirst, lets discuss the conditions that led to a tribe of female warriors. then, determine, if the amazons can be seen as unique to a time and place. traditions can lead to sometimes the death of all of the men in a society. the males were taught to be brave and bold as soldiers, this was true in greece and scythia. they all went to war, and came back victorious, or not at all. mothers told their husbands and sons, to come back carrying their shield, or upon it. the thoughts and mindset of the women, were much the same as the men. as seen in the line above.if all of the men of an island or locale, fell in battle, leaving such women, they would unite and organize, for the general welfare and defence. in time, they might be looked upon as amazons. this likely happened, over and over, thru long ages, when the same type of battles were taking place, for many thousands of years. this was certainly true for greece and scythia. the old name was given the new group of women.lets try to recall the events when egypt was bold enough to invade scythia. they struck, and maybe looted, and then fled back to egypt. the scythian warriors [magyar] chased them back to the nile, where the defences prepared by pharaoh, stopped them. instead of returning to scythia, they loved the luxury they had found, so they stayed in asia, becoming known as the parthians. very effective, with turning in the saddle, to make great bowshots, upon parting from the enemy, who got careless, thinking that they had routed them.its said, that the women abandoned in scythia, by the parthians, became amazons.there were reports of amazons from the time of the first heracles, thru the time of the trojan war. the same conditions and mindset, lasted far longer, so we must preclude that amazons could have existed far back in prehistoric times.could amazons have lived along the river, now bearing their name, as recently as 1540 ce? my first reaction had been highly unlikely, after reading the account of the author of that river adventure. however, after reviewing what humboldt reported, im left to wonder if it were true. the turks were putting pressure on greece then, and many men lost their lives. the conditions were ripe for another tribe of amazons forming. he found green carved stones, that were associated with the amazon legend.i might question, why the amazons would select to travel as far as south america, when with prowess, they could have carved out a holding somewhere closer to home. the amazon and orinoco jungles, were and are, dangerous regions, with tribes still using carare poison darts. they contain very little for an outsider to find to eat. far easier to be eaten, or have your head shrunk. this is changing fast today, as settlers slash and burn, deep into the interior. i had expected that this expansion, would uncover remains of ancient cultures, and cities, like fawcett sought. so far, no such finds have been reported.mike
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