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Re: [Poland-speaks-out] Re: Alert: Barack Obama says Polish death camp

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  • Witold Szymanski
    Perhaps we ought to post him some bananas? Hey? Take care. Witold ... From: Jan To: Poland-speaks-out@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:30 PM
    Message 1 of 6 , May 30, 2012
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      Perhaps we ought to post him some bananas? Hey?
       
      Take care.
      Witold
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jan
      Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:30 PM
      Subject: [Poland-speaks-out] Re: Alert: Barack Obama says Polish death camp

      Dear Group,

      Witek: What do you make of Obama? Is he that ignorant? Or is he just plain stupid, with simple gift of the gap?

      I don't know.  Still read the following which claims "President Obama has a long track record of insulting the Poles". 

      Regards

      Jan N., Cardiff

      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100161347/barack-obama-has-insulted-38-million-poles-with-his-crass-and-ignorant-polish-death-camp-remark/

      President Obama has a long track record of insulting the Poles. In 2010 he chose to play golf on the day of the funeral of the Polish President Lech Kaczynski, the Polish First Lady, and 94 senior officials who perished in the Smolensk air disaster. Eight months earlier he humiliated Warsaw by pulling out of the agreement over Third Site missile defence installations in Poland and the Czech Republic. And last night Barack Obama caused huge offence in Poland by referring to a Nazi death camp in Poland as "a Polish death camp" while awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a Polish resistance fighter. As ABC's Jake Tapper reported:

      Poles and Polish-Americans expressed outrage today at President Obama's reference earlier to "a Polish death camp" — as opposed to a Nazi death camp in German-occupied Poland.

      "The White House will apologize for this outrageous error," Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski tweeted. Sikorski said that Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk "will make a statement in the morning. It's a pity that this important ceremony was upstaged by ignorance and incompetence."

      The president had been trying to honor a famous Pole, awarding a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Jan Karski, a resistance fighter who sneaked behind enemy lines to bear witness to the atrocities being committed against Jews. President Obama referred to him being smuggled "into the Warsaw ghetto and a Polish death camp to see for himself."

      The Obama administration has tried to downplay the incident. According to ABC:

      National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a statement, "The President was referring to Nazi death camps operated in Poland. The President has demonstrated in word and deed his rock-solid commitment to our close alliance with Poland."

      Weasel words from the White House will do little however to calm Polish anger. After all, these were carefully scripted remarks by the president reading off a teleprompter. Six millions Poles died at the hands of Nazi Germany during World War Two, including three million Polish Jews during the Holocaust. The president's use of the term "Polish death camp" is hugely insulting to the Polish people, and will reinforce the growing image across Eastern and Central Europe of an American presidency that cares little for key US allies, especially against the backdrop of its controversial and weak-kneed "reset" policy towards Russia. For a US administration that likes to boast of "smart power," this was an act of staggering historical ignorance as well as crass insensitivity.

    • vaughn Judson
      Jan, Obama is not stupid, but he has been made to look stupid by this. My hunch is that he is relying on the neocons to advise him on areas they tell him they
      Message 2 of 6 , May 30, 2012
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        Jan,
        Obama is not stupid, but he has been made to look stupid by this.  My hunch is that he is relying on the neocons to advise him on areas they tell him they know so well.
        It fits with the popular image of Poland in the mainstream mind.  That mainstream image has been crafted by Hollywood which is the source of money for Obama.
        This is a great teachable moment for the president since he has to listen in order to get the Polish American vote.  I would appeal to his interest in enhancing his depth of expertise in an area (Central European politics) previously superficially appreciated by him.
         
        Vaughn
         
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Jan
        Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:30 AM
        Subject: [Poland-speaks-out] Re: Alert: Barack Obama says Polish death camp

         

        Dear Group,

        Witek: What do you make of Obama? Is he that ignorant? Or is he just plain stupid, with simple gift of the gap?

        I don't know.  Still read the following which claims "President Obama has a long track record of insulting the Poles". 

        Regards

        Jan N., Cardiff

        http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100161347/barack-obama-has-insulted-38-million-poles-with-his-crass-and-ignorant-polish-death-camp-remark/

        President Obama has a long track record of insulting the Poles. In 2010 he chose to play golf on the day of the funeral of the Polish President Lech Kaczynski, the Polish First Lady, and 94 senior officials who perished in the Smolensk air disaster. Eight months earlier he humiliated Warsaw by pulling out of the agreement over Third Site missile defence installations in Poland and the Czech Republic. And last night Barack Obama caused huge offence in Poland by referring to a Nazi death camp in Poland as "a Polish death camp" while awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a Polish resistance fighter. As ABC's Jake Tapper reported:

        Poles and Polish-Americans expressed outrage today at President Obama's reference earlier to "a Polish death camp" — as opposed to a Nazi death camp in German-occupied Poland.

        "The White House will apologize for this outrageous error," Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski tweeted. Sikorski said that Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk "will make a statement in the morning. It's a pity that this important ceremony was upstaged by ignorance and incompetence."

        The president had been trying to honor a famous Pole, awarding a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Jan Karski, a resistance fighter who sneaked behind enemy lines to bear witness to the atrocities being committed against Jews. President Obama referred to him being smuggled "into the Warsaw ghetto and a Polish death camp to see for himself."

        The Obama administration has tried to downplay the incident. According to ABC:

        National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a statement, "The President was referring to Nazi death camps operated in Poland. The President has demonstrated in word and deed his rock-solid commitment to our close alliance with Poland."

        Weasel words from the White House will do little however to calm Polish anger. After all, these were carefully scripted remarks by the president reading off a teleprompter. Six millions Poles died at the hands of Nazi Germany during World War Two, including three million Polish Jews during the Holocaust. The president's use of the term "Polish death camp" is hugely insulting to the Polish people, and will reinforce the growing image across Eastern and Central Europe of an American presidency that cares little for key US allies, especially against the backdrop of its controversial and weak-kneed "reset" policy towards Russia. For a US administration that likes to boast of "smart power," this was an act of staggering historical ignorance as well as crass insensitivity.

      • Jan
        Please sign the petition https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/denounce-phrases-polish
        Message 3 of 6 , May 30, 2012
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