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  • Krysia
    Carol you are correct the only people knew about Russian crimes against Polish people were the families. Would you agree that the world wide governments and
    Message 1 of 4 , Apr 9, 2008
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      Carol you are correct the only people knew about Russian crimes against Polish people  were the families.
      Would you agree that the world wide  governments and their policies   are becomig more transparent?
      pozdrawiam Krysia

      Carol <stashaok@...> wrote:
      Krysia,

      It seems like the truth is getting closer to being once more spoken
      about. We never would have found articals like the one below even 10
      years ago. Carol

      Dr Andrzej S&#322;awi&# 324;ski,
      Policy of the United States of America towards the Soviet Union 1941-
      1945 and its Consequences for Poland

      http://www.polishre sistance- ak.org/23% 20Article. htm

      --- In Poland-speaks- out@yahoogroups. com, Krysia <thymetrax@. ..>
      wrote:
      >
      > Below notification received from Kolo Filmowe 3F's in Toronto;
      >
      >
      > ............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .........
      ............ ......... ......
      >
      > Okrêg Toronto Kongresu Polonii Kanadyjskiej uprzejmie informuje,
      ¿e w najbli¿szym czasie bêdziemy wspólnie obchodzili nastêpuj¹ce
      wa¿ne uroczystoœci organizowane przez Okrêg Toronto KPK:
      >
      > 68 –ta rocznica Mordu Katyñskiego.
      > 13 kwietnia(niedziela) o godz.11:15 w koœciele Œw.Kazimierza
      bêdzie odprawiona specjalna Msza Œw. za pomordowanych w Katyniu.
      > Bezpoœrednio po Mszy spotykamy siê pod pomnikiem Katyñskim, gdzie
      odbêd¹ siê uroczystoœci zwi¹zane z rocznic¹ tego tragicznego
      wydarzeniem oraz zapalenie œwieczek, z³o¿enie wieñców i Apel
      Poleg³ych. Bardzo prosimy o przyniesienie symbolicznych kwiatów i
      œwieczek.
      >
      > Rocznica Konstytucji 3 Maja.
      > 3 maja (sobota) o godz.12:00 odbêd¹ siê uroczystoœci wci¹gniecie
      polskiej flagi przed budynkiem Parlamentu Ontaryjskiego w Toronto.
      > 4 maja (niedziela)- godz.10:45- nast¹pi przemarsz pochodu z High
      Park Blvd i Parkside Dr. do koœcio³a Œw.Kazimierza, gdzie o
      godz.11:15 bêdzie odprawiona uroczysta Msza Œw. w intencji Ojczyzny.
      > Równie¿ w niedzielê o godz.15:00 w budynku SPK przy Beverley Str.
      odbêdzie siê okolicznoœciowa akademia i obiad Kombatancki
      organizowane wspólnie przez Ko³o SPK #20, Ko³o Pañ „Nadzieja" oraz
      KPK O.Toronto.
      > Prosimy o zarezerwowanie czasu i przygotowanie organizacji do
      licznego udzia³u w tych wa¿nych uroczystoœciach.
      > Z powa¿aniem,
      >
      > Jan Cytowski
      > Prezes KPK OT
      >
      >
      > KATYN ANNIVERSARY
      >
      > April of every year is an anniversary of horrible murders and
      crimes against humanity committed on Polish officers and
      intelligentsia by the Soviet Union in the spring of 1940. The Soviet
      Union was at the beginning of the Second World War an ally of the
      Nazi Germany, and invaded Poland on September 17, 1939. The invasion
      of Poland stemmed from the pact Ribbentrop-Molotov, also known as
      Hitler-Stalin Pact.
      >
      > As a result of the Soviet invasion of Poland, hundreds of
      thousands of Polish officers and soldiers became POWs. The Soviets
      also arrested anybody they considered their "ideological enemy", like
      teachers, doctors, university professors, and other members of Polish
      intelligentsia. The prisoners were subjected to lengthy
      interrogations and they were led to believe that they would be
      released, whereas actually the interrogations were a selection
      process to determine who would die. The Soviets organized a number of
      camps for the Polish prisoners. The best known of them were at
      Kozelsk, Ostashkov, and Starobielsk. On March 5, 1940, an order was
      signed by Josef Stalin, Vyacheslav Molotow, Lazar Kaganovich, Mikhail
      Kalinin, Kliment Voroshilov, Anastas Mikoyan, and Lavrenty Beria, to
      execute 25,700 Polish prisoners.
      >
      > The executions started on April 3, 1940. The prisoners from
      the Kozelsk camp were murdered with a shot to the back of the head at
      the Katyn forest, and buried there in mass graves. The people from
      Starobielsk were murdered in the NKVD prison of Kharkov, and the
      bodies buried near Pyatikhatki. The people from Ostashkov were
      murdered in the inner NKVD prison of Kalinin and buried in Miednoje.
      Those who died at Katyn included an admiral, two generals, 24
      colonels, 79 lieutenant colonels, 258 majors, 654 captains, 17 naval
      captains, 3,420 officers, seven chaplains, three landowners, a
      prince, 43 officials, 85 privates, and 131 refugees. Also among the
      murdered were 20 university professors, 300 physicians; several
      hundred lawyers, engineers, and teachers; and more than 100 writers
      and journalists as well as about 200 pilots. In all, the Soviets
      executed at least 22,436 Polish POWs and prisoners, which constituted
      almost half the Polish officer corps.
      >
      > In April 1943 the German Wehrmacht discovered the mass grave
      of more than 4,000 Polish military officers in the forest on Goat
      Hill near Katyn. The Germans brought in an international commission
      of forensic experts from a number of European countries, who
      determined that the murders were committed by the Soviet Union.
      However, after the war the Western Allies denied the truth and took
      part in the cover-up of the Soviet crimes. The United States received
      two intelligence reports which pointed to the Soviet responsibility
      for the crimes, but they were suppressed. Roosevelt gave a written
      order not to publish Navy Lieutenant Commander George Earle's report
      which also pointed to the Soviets. Churchill assured the Soviets: "We
      shall certainly oppose vigorously any 'investigation' by the
      International Red Cross or any other body in any territory under
      German authority. Such investigation would be a fraud and its
      conclusions reached by terrorism." On 13 April 1990, the
      > forty-seventh anniversary of the discovery of the mass graves, the
      Soviet Union formally expressed "profound regret" and admitted Soviet
      secret police responsibility for the murders of the Polish prisoners.
      To day, no one has been prosecuted for the Soviet atrocities.
      >
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    • Carol
      Krystyna, I think others know and knew but if we were not speaking out they felt, why rock the boat. Poland feels like we saved them from Germany. The longer
      Message 2 of 4 , Apr 10, 2008
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        Krystyna,

        I think others know and knew but if we were not speaking out they
        felt, why rock the boat. Poland feels like we saved them from
        Germany. The longer time went by under "communist Poland" the harder
        it became for the truth to be told and accepted. Check out the next
        two articals.

        Carol


        --- In Poland-speaks-out@yahoogroups.com, Krysia <thymetrax@...>
        wrote:
        >
        > Carol you are correct the only people knew about Russian crimes
        against Polish people were the families.
        > Would you agree that the world wide governments and their
        policies are becomig more transparent?
        > pozdrawiam Krysia
        >
        > Carol <stashaok@...> wrote:
        > Krysia,
        >
        > It seems like the truth is getting closer to being once more spoken
        > about. We never would have found articals like the one below even
        10
        > years ago. Carol
        >
        > Dr Andrzej Sławiński,
        > Policy of the United States of America towards the Soviet Union
        1941-
        > 1945 and its Consequences for Poland
        >
        > http://www.polishresistance-ak.org/23%20Article.htm
        >
        > --- In Poland-speaks-out@yahoogroups.com, Krysia <thymetrax@>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > Below notification received from Kolo Filmowe 3F's in Toronto;
        > >
        > >
        > > ..................................................................
        > ...........................
        > >
        > > Okrêg Toronto Kongresu Polonii Kanadyjskiej uprzejmie informuje,
        > ¿e w najbli¿szym czasie bêdziemy wspólnie obchodzili nastêpuj¹ce
        > wa¿ne uroczystoœci organizowane przez Okrêg Toronto KPK:
        > >
        > > 68 –ta rocznica Mordu Katyñskiego.
        > > 13 kwietnia(niedziela) o godz.11:15 w koœciele Œw.Kazimierza
        > bêdzie odprawiona specjalna Msza Œw. za pomordowanych w Katyniu.
        > > Bezpoœrednio po Mszy spotykamy siê pod pomnikiem Katyñskim, gdzie
        > odbêd¹ siê uroczystoœci zwi¹zane z rocznic¹ tego tragicznego
        > wydarzeniem oraz zapalenie œwieczek, z³o¿enie wieñców i Apel
        > Poleg³ych. Bardzo prosimy o przyniesienie symbolicznych kwiatów i
        > œwieczek.
        > >
        > > Rocznica Konstytucji 3 Maja.
        > > 3 maja (sobota) o godz.12:00 odbêd¹ siê uroczystoœci wci¹gniecie
        > polskiej flagi przed budynkiem Parlamentu Ontaryjskiego w Toronto.
        > > 4 maja (niedziela)-godz.10:45-nast¹pi przemarsz pochodu z High
        > Park Blvd i Parkside Dr. do koœcio³a Œw.Kazimierza, gdzie o
        > godz.11:15 bêdzie odprawiona uroczysta Msza Œw. w intencji
        Ojczyzny.
        > > Równie¿ w niedzielê o godz.15:00 w budynku SPK przy Beverley Str.
        > odbêdzie siê okolicznoœciowa akademia i obiad Kombatancki
        > organizowane wspólnie przez Ko³o SPK #20, Ko³o Pañ „Nadzieja" oraz
        > KPK O.Toronto.
        > > Prosimy o zarezerwowanie czasu i przygotowanie organizacji do
        > licznego udzia³u w tych wa¿nych uroczystoœciach.
        > > Z powa¿aniem,
        > >
        > > Jan Cytowski
        > > Prezes KPK OT
        > >
        > >
        > > KATYN ANNIVERSARY
        > >
        > > April of every year is an anniversary of horrible murders and
        > crimes against humanity committed on Polish officers and
        > intelligentsia by the Soviet Union in the spring of 1940. The
        Soviet
        > Union was at the beginning of the Second World War an ally of the
        > Nazi Germany, and invaded Poland on September 17, 1939. The
        invasion
        > of Poland stemmed from the pact Ribbentrop-Molotov, also known as
        > Hitler-Stalin Pact.
        > >
        > > As a result of the Soviet invasion of Poland, hundreds of
        > thousands of Polish officers and soldiers became POWs. The Soviets
        > also arrested anybody they considered their "ideological enemy",
        like
        > teachers, doctors, university professors, and other members of
        Polish
        > intelligentsia. The prisoners were subjected to lengthy
        > interrogations and they were led to believe that they would be
        > released, whereas actually the interrogations were a selection
        > process to determine who would die. The Soviets organized a number
        of
        > camps for the Polish prisoners. The best known of them were at
        > Kozelsk, Ostashkov, and Starobielsk. On March 5, 1940, an order was
        > signed by Josef Stalin, Vyacheslav Molotow, Lazar Kaganovich,
        Mikhail
        > Kalinin, Kliment Voroshilov, Anastas Mikoyan, and Lavrenty Beria,
        to
        > execute 25,700 Polish prisoners.
        > >
        > > The executions started on April 3, 1940. The prisoners from
        > the Kozelsk camp were murdered with a shot to the back of the head
        at
        > the Katyn forest, and buried there in mass graves. The people from
        > Starobielsk were murdered in the NKVD prison of Kharkov, and the
        > bodies buried near Pyatikhatki. The people from Ostashkov were
        > murdered in the inner NKVD prison of Kalinin and buried in
        Miednoje.
        > Those who died at Katyn included an admiral, two generals, 24
        > colonels, 79 lieutenant colonels, 258 majors, 654 captains, 17
        naval
        > captains, 3,420 officers, seven chaplains, three landowners, a
        > prince, 43 officials, 85 privates, and 131 refugees. Also among the
        > murdered were 20 university professors, 300 physicians; several
        > hundred lawyers, engineers, and teachers; and more than 100 writers
        > and journalists as well as about 200 pilots. In all, the Soviets
        > executed at least 22,436 Polish POWs and prisoners, which
        constituted
        > almost half the Polish officer corps.
        > >
        > > In April 1943 the German Wehrmacht discovered the mass grave
        > of more than 4,000 Polish military officers in the forest on Goat
        > Hill near Katyn. The Germans brought in an international commission
        > of forensic experts from a number of European countries, who
        > determined that the murders were committed by the Soviet Union.
        > However, after the war the Western Allies denied the truth and took
        > part in the cover-up of the Soviet crimes. The United States
        received
        > two intelligence reports which pointed to the Soviet responsibility
        > for the crimes, but they were suppressed. Roosevelt gave a written
        > order not to publish Navy Lieutenant Commander George Earle's
        report
        > which also pointed to the Soviets. Churchill assured the
        Soviets: "We
        > shall certainly oppose vigorously any 'investigation' by the
        > International Red Cross or any other body in any territory under
        > German authority. Such investigation would be a fraud and its
        > conclusions reached by terrorism." On 13 April 1990, the
        > > forty-seventh anniversary of the discovery of the mass graves,
        the
        > Soviet Union formally expressed "profound regret" and admitted
        Soviet
        > secret police responsibility for the murders of the Polish
        prisoners.
        > To day, no one has been prosecuted for the Soviet atrocities.
        > >
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