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  • Carl & Barbara O'Brien
    G day Colin Below is information I have on the Murray / Lumsden families it is taken straight from my Brothers Keeper Genealogy program, I would be pleased to
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 6, 1998
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      G'day Colin

      Below is information I have on the Murray / Lumsden families it is taken
      straight from my Brothers Keeper Genealogy program, I would be pleased
      to receive any info you can add.

      Regards,

      Carl.

      LUMSDEN
      Robert Lumsden born c1795, Coull Aberdeenshire?, occupation Seaman
      (Merchant), married 21 Aug 1817, in Peterhead, Elspet Wedderburn, born
      ___ 1796, Old Meldrum. Both Robert & Elspet had died prior to 1880
      (Johns Death Cert.).

      I. Janet Lumsden born 20 Oct 1818, Peterhead, married 25 Nov 1846, in
      Peterhead, Alexander Murray, born ___ 1814, (son of George Murray and
      Jannet Ross) occupation Ships Carpenter, died 1 Mar 1873, Peterhead.
      Janet died 7 May 1872, Peterhead. 2ND Oct 1818 Robert Lumsden sailor
      had a daughter baptised named Janet before John Morison & Wm Rob? OPR
      P.528/2 Alexander: Headstone in Peterhead Old Kirkyard South Rd states
      Alexander was "Lost in St George's Channel" 1st March 1873 aged 59
      years.

      A. Janet Ross Murray born 14 Nov 1847, Peterhead, died 22 Dec 1876,
      Peterhead.

      B. Elspet Wedderburn Murray born 18 Feb 1850, Peterhead.

      C. Mary Ann Lumsden Murray born 26 Feb 1851, Peterhead, died 7 Apr
      1871, Peterhead.

      D. Alexander Murray born 5 Aug 1852, Peterhead, occupation Clerk, died
      12 Nov 1871, Peterhead. Death record states: Alexander Murray, Clerk,
      single 12/11/1871 2Hrs 15Mns Am 58/2 Queen St, Male, 19 years. F.
      Alexander Murray, Ships Carpenter. M. Janet Murray nee Lumsden.
      Pulmonary Tuberculosis, duration of disease unknown. Elspit Murray,
      sister present.

      E. Isabella Lumsden Murray born 10 Sep 1853, Peterhead.

      F. Rachel Lumsden Murray born 6 Jun 1855, Peterhead, died 11 Aug 1870,
      Peterhead. Died 11/8/1870 at noon, 58/2 Queen St. Cause - Bronchitis.
      Informant Elspet Murray sister, present.

      G. Margaret Wedderburn Murray born 16 Feb 1857, Peterhead, died 25 Feb
      1861, Peterhead. Died of Scarlet Fever

      II. John Lumsden born ___ 1820, Peterhead, occupation Sailmaker.,
      married (1) 2 Jan 1848, in Peterhead Scotland, Jean Smith, born ___
      1820, Peterhead Aberdeen Scotland, (daughter of Robert Smith and Ann
      Pressley) married (2) Jean Ewan, died 21 Dec 1846, Peterhead. John died
      21 May 1880, Peterhead. John was deceased prior to 21st Jan 1881 (Anne
      P. L. Carle death cert) Civil Reg. Record 82 for death in 1880 Birth
      Witness-George Cummin & John Hansen

      A. Robert Lumsden born 11 Jun 1849, Peterhead Scotland, occupation
      Ships Carpenter.

      B. Anne Pressley Lumsden born 24 Oct 1851, Peterhead Scotland,
      occupation Dressmaker, married 6 Jun 1872, in Peterhead Scotland by Rev
      James Stewart, Charles Penny Carle, born 26 Oct 1845, Rathen Aberdeen
      Scotland, (son of John Carle and Ann Wyllie) occupation Coach Builder,
      died 24 Jun 1936, East Brunswick, buried 26 Jun 1936, Fawkner Cemetery
      Pres.C 1802. Anne died 21 Jan 1881, Peterhead Scotland, buried 25 Jan
      1881, Peterhead Constitution St Cemetry. Anne Carle died on the 21st
      Jan at 7pm 1. Keith St Charles: IGI shows christened 6.11.1845
      Rathen. 1861 and 1871 census says he would have been born around
      1848/49 Charles was given a Teapot on his retirement the inscription on
      it reads: Presented to C. Carle by his fellow employees of Messers John
      Danks & Sons Pty Ltd. as a mark of esteem on the occasion of hir
      retirement 24-12-1919.

      1. John Carle born 9 Sep 1873, Peterhead Scotland, occupation
      Carpenter, married Edith Emily Garrett, born 17 Mar 1889, North East
      London, died 8 Dec 1975, Queen Vic Hospital, buried 12 Dec 1975, Fawkner
      Cemetry GR1A*2*HH. John died 31 Mar 1941, Melbourne (Royal Melb.
      Hospital), buried 2 Apr 1941, Fawkner Cemetry GR1A*2*HH. Death Notice:
      On Mar 31 at Royal Melb Hosp., John beloved husband of Edith, 112
      Shaftesbury St, West Coburg. Loved father of Alex (Qld) and Nell. John
      was actually buried on the 2nd April 1941, the body was exumed 11-8-1943
      for cremation and the ashes are now in the family plot with his wife and
      Albert Hall 7-11-43 & Myra Hall 30-3-45.

      a. Alex Carle.

      b. Nell Carle born 17 Oct 1917, Manor Park NE London, married Alex
      Colville, died 14 Oct 1988, Williamstown. Nell died 21 May 1983,
      Williamstown. A death notice shows name as Ellen

      (1) John Colville married Anne Unknown.

      (a) David Colville.

      (b) Margaret Colville.

      2. Jane Ann Carle born 29 Oct 1875, Peterhead Scotland, married (1)
      ___ 1897, in West Hotham, George Windsor Fleming, married (2) ___ 1912,
      Thomas Henry Meatchem, born Williamstown.

      a. William Charles Windsor Fleming born ___ 1898, Williamstown. Wife
      possibly Adelaide Mayston Brett Griffiths M.1918 Reg 4813.

      b. George Albert John Fleming born ___ 1903, Williamstown.

      c. Alva Jean Isabel Fleming born ___ 1908, Williamstown, married ___
      1928, John Henry Musicka.

      3. Robert Carle born 16 Aug 1877, Peterhead Scotland, died 4 Dec 1881,
      Peterhead. Robert died at 3am 4th December at 1. Keith St. Headstone in
      Constitution St cemetry Peterhead states aged 4 years and 4 months

      4. Thomas Mathew Carle born 25 Jul 1879, Peterhead Scotland, married
      24 Feb 1903, in Carlton, Margaret Ethel Nettleton, born 25 Jul 1877,
      Sandhurst, (daughter of Henry William Nettleton and Elizabeth Ann
      Charles) died 13 Jun 1939, Heidelberg, buried 15 Jun 1939, Fawkner
      Cemetery CoE O 3523. Thomas died 10 Apr 1957, Elsternwick, buried 11
      Apr 1957, Fawkner Cemetery CoE O 3523. Thomas and Ethel were living at
      86 Edgeware Rd. Christchurch North NZ. in 1905

      a. Donald Hector Carle born 5 Mar 1904, Christchurch New Zealand,
      married 17 Nov 1939, Isabel Rose Smith, born ___ 1913, died 24 Apr
      1990. Donald died 12 Aug 1969, Sandringham.

      (1) Geoffery Carle born 8 Apr 1942, married 24 Oct 1987, in
      Brighton, Annabel Pennell.

      (2) Margaret Carle born 26 Dec 1944, married Robert Mead.

      b. Muriel Carle born 23 Nov 1905, Christchurch NZ, married 14 Apr
      1934, in St Bedes Elwood, Timothy John McHenry, born 21 Dec 1896,
      Mansfield, (son of Thomas Joseph McHenry and Florence Gertrude Dwyer)
      died 14 Apr 1977, buried 19 Apr 1977, Cheltenham. Muriel died 17 Dec
      1996, Melbourne, buried 20 Dec 1996.

      c. Joan Carle born 24 Mar 1918, Brunswick North, married 19 Aug 1944,
      in Glenhuntly Vic., Gordon Robertson O'Brien, born 13 Aug 1920, Malvern,
      (son of Charlie O'Brien and Cathrine Barbara Robertson) occupation
      Bricklayer. Joan died 20 Sep 1986, Melbourne, buried 22 Sep 1986,
      Cheltenham Cemetry.

      (1) Carl Christopher O'Brien born 23 Apr 1950, Elsternwick, married
      14 Sep 1973, in Hampton, Barbara Patricia Wilson, born 14 Apr 1952,
      Caulfield, (daughter of Donald Keith Wilson and Joan Lorraine Wright)
      occupation Computer Quality Manager.

      (2) Mark Stephen O'Brien born 10 Apr 1956, Glenhuntly, occupation
      Model Maker.

      5. Mary Carle born 13 Jan 1881, Peterhead Scotland, died 23 Jun 1881,
      Peterhead Scotland. Mary died 23rd June at 11.15pm 10a Love Lane aged 5
      months

      C. Thomas Mathew Lumsden born 22 Jul 1855, Peterhead Scotland,
      occupation Ships Carpenters Aptc.

      D. Andrew Ewan Lumsden born 28 Apr 1858, Peterhead Scotland, occupation
      Cartwright.

      E. Charles Pressley Lumsden born 23 Jun 1860, Peterhead Scotland,
      occupation Boat builder.

      F. Patrick Jamieson Lumsden born 14 Mar 1862, Peterhead Scotland, died
      5 Aug 1862, Peterhead. No 89.Patrick J. Lumsden, single, 5th August, 1
      hour pm. At 18 Keith St Male, 4 months, Father John Lumsden, Shipmaster,
      Mother Jean Smith. Cause of death Hepatitus, had for about a week,
      Informant Jean Lumsden (sign) sister, present, inmate.

      G. Jane Lumsden born 4 May 1844, Peterhead, married 14 Oct 1863, in
      Longate, Peterhead, James McLean, born ___ 1842, (son of John McLean and
      Mary McKenzie) occupation Seaman. James: Married in the free church of
      Scotland. James father shown deceased at time of marriage.

      H. John Ewan Lumsden born 23 Nov 1846, Peterhead, married Lucy Unknown,
      born England.

      1. James Lumsden born ___ 1871.

      III. Robert Lumsden born 12 Nov 1821, Peterhead, occupation Sailor, died
      ___ 1880, 12 Maiden St Peterhead. Birth Witness-George Cummin & George
      Anderson

      IV. Harris Helen Sinclair Lumsden born 1 Oct 1823, Peterhead, married 19
      Jan 1845, in Peterhead, Alexander Wilson, died ___ 1851. Birth
      Witness-John Sinclair & George Anderson

      A. Jean Sinclair Wilson born 21 May 1847, Peterhead.

      V. William Lumsden born 21 Nov 1825, Peterhead. Birth Witness- George &
      William Cumming

      VI. Mary Ann Lumsden born 11 Sep 1827, Peterhead. Birth Witness- George
      Cumming & John Manson

      VII. Alexander Lumsden born 2 Nov 1828, Peterhead, died 16 May 1829,
      Peterhead. Birth Witness- John Manson & John Sinclair

      VIII. James Lumsden born 16 Aug 1830, Peterhead. Birth Witness- William
      ? & James Wedderburn Married Jane Eliza Lowe 3.2.1858 Phd.... Not proven

      IX. Elspet Lumsden born 5 Aug 1832, Peterhead, married 4 Sep 1851, in
      Peterhead, Alexander Watt. Birth Witness- George Cumming & James
      Wedderburn

      A. Alexander Kynoch Watt born 19 Jul 1852.

      B. Robert Lumsden Watt born ___ 1856, died 18 Feb 1864, Peterhead.
      Robert died 18/2/1864 at 8am, 21 Keith St age 7years and 9months
      Informant Robert Lumsden Grandfather 12 Broard St. Not present.

      C. Sarah Smith Watt born 26 Jun 1860, Peterhead.

      X. Isabella Lumsden born 25 Dec 1834, Peterhead. Birth Witness- John
      Sinclair & William Cumming

      XI. Rachel Lumsden born 8 Sep 1838, Peterhead. Birth Witness- George
      Anderson & George Cumming

      MURRAY
      George Murray married 10 Jun 1813, in Strichen, Jannet Ross.

      I. Alexander Murray born ___ 1814, occupation Ships Carpenter, married
      25 Nov 1846, in Peterhead, Janet Lumsden, born 20 Oct 1818, Peterhead,
      (daughter of Robert Lumsden and Elspet Wedderburn) died 7 May 1872,
      Peterhead. Alexander died 1 Mar 1873, Peterhead. Headstone in
      Peterhead Old Kirkyard South Rd states Alexander was "Lost in St
      George's Channel" 1st March 1873 aged 59 years. Janet: 2ND Oct 1818
      Robert Lumsden sailor had a daughter baptised named Janet before John
      Morison & Wm Rob? OPR P.528/2

      A. Janet Ross Murray born 14 Nov 1847, Peterhead, died 22 Dec 1876,
      Peterhead.

      B. Elspet Wedderburn Murray born 18 Feb 1850, Peterhead.

      C. Mary Ann Lumsden Murray born 26 Feb 1851, Peterhead, died 7 Apr
      1871, Peterhead.

      D. Alexander Murray born 5 Aug 1852, Peterhead, occupation Clerk, died
      12 Nov 1871, Peterhead. Death record states: Alexander Murray, Clerk,
      single 12/11/1871 2Hrs 15Mns Am 58/2 Queen St, Male, 19 years. F.
      Alexander Murray, Ships Carpenter. M. Janet Murray nee Lumsden.
      Pulmonary Tuberculosis, duration of disease unknown. Elspit Murray,
      sister present.

      E. Isabella Lumsden Murray born 10 Sep 1853, Peterhead.

      F. Rachel Lumsden Murray born 6 Jun 1855, Peterhead, died 11 Aug 1870,
      Peterhead. Died 11/8/1870 at noon, 58/2 Queen St. Cause - Bronchitis.
      Informant Elspet Murray sister, present.

      G. Margaret Wedderburn Murray born 16 Feb 1857, Peterhead, died 25 Feb
      1861, Peterhead. Died of Scarlet Fever
    • Colin Gordon
      Wow! Talk about striking it rich! Thanks very much Carl and Barbara. I certainly didn t expect to get so much information so fast! I wish I could add to
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 6, 1998
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        Wow! Talk about striking it rich! Thanks very much Carl and Barbara. I
        certainly didn't expect to get so much information so fast! I wish I could
        add to yours, but you had far more than I.

        Well Wade, the list works!

        Thanks everyone.

        Colin Gordon
        Yellowknife
        Canada
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