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  • Judy Hand
    Dear Wade, Although I haven’t been in touch lately, I have been reading all the messages, and, as I presently have one of the BT113 films out, felt I could
    Message 1 of 11 , Jun 30, 1999
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      Dear Wade,

      Although I haven�t been in touch lately, I have been reading all the
      messages, and, as I presently have one of the BT113 films out, felt I
      could assist if anyone wanted me to look up their people. The actual
      film is 1482548, being BT113/57-58, and the Peterhead men all appear to
      be together, and I list them below:-

      Name Number Lived at
      Peterhead
      James Nickle (?) 114200 ditto
      James Ruddack 114201 ditto
      James Fowett 114202 ditto
      Andrew Buchan 114203 Inverallochy
      James Clark 114204 Peterhead
      George Skeen 114205 ditto
      James Anderson 114206 ditto
      Alexander Aiken 114207 ditto
      Thomas Smith 114208 ditto
      James Wallace 114209 ditto
      John Ogston 114210 ditto
      James Buchan 114211 St. Combs
      John Slesson 114212 Peterhead
      Alexander Bruce 114213
      Mordie Macbeth 114214
      George Watt 114215 ditto
      Robert Reid 114216
      John Allen 114217 ditto
      Charles Robertson 114218 ditto
      William Ruddack 114219 ditto
      James Webster 114220 ditto
      Alexander Milne 114221
      James Munro 114222
      Adam Brown 114223
      Robert Walker 114224
      David Bouman 114225
      Robert Calder 114226
      Dougle Noble 114227
      William Cruckshank 114228
      John Robertson 114229
      Andrew Samuel 114230
      Peter Baird 114231
      Charles Brion 114232
      William Marshall 114233
      William Brown 114234
      Andrew Lyon 114235
      Charles Smith 114236
      William Tait 114237
      Alexander Willor 114238
      Alexander Johnston 114239
      John Scott 114240
      Duncan McLennan 114241
      James Levine 114242 (Sevine?)
      Gordon Thompson 114243
      Alexander Duthie 114244
      Henry Polson 114245
      Alexander Leslie 114246
      John Brown 114247
      Robert Ogston 114248
      Alexander Watson 114249
      James Kinlock 114250
      Alexander Maclean 114251
      Nathaniel Davidson 114252
      James Smith 114253
      Alexander Smith 114254
      Andrew Morrison 114255
      Alexander Sangster 114256
      William Dalgarno 114257
      James Reid 114258
      John Stewart 114259
      William Duncan 114260
      James Davidson 114261
      Alexander Greig 114262 Prestonpans
      James Begrie 114263
      John Maitland 114264
      John Reid 114265
      John Marshall 114266
      Geroge Bowman 114267
      William Cow 114268 Burnhaven
      David Wallace 114269
      John Davidson 114270
      John Witherspoon 114271
      John Bowman 114272
      Alexander Lindsay 114273 Could be Andrew
      Joseph Stevenson 114274
      John Simpson 114275
      Robert Duncan 114276 Montrose
      George Mitchell 114277
      Peter Edwards 114278
      David Wallace or Alexander Butter 114279 2 different entries
      John Hann 114280
      John Mann 114281
      John Darg 114282
      James Emslie 114283 Longside
      Robert Donaldson 114284
      George Smith 114281
      John Thomas 114286
      George Fowler 114287
      Thomas Anderson 114278
      Thomas Milne 114289
      James Cruickshank 114290
      Alexander Munro 114291
      James Law 114292
      Alexander Craick 114293
      George Murray Boggie 114294
      James Lawson 114295
      Robert Leslie 114296
      Charles Hutton 114297
      George McDonald 114298
      Alexander Wallace 114299


      These men either lived at Peterhead, or were actually registered at
      Peterhead, but there were too many to record the details, so I just took
      a list of their names and numbers. However, if anyone would like me to
      check them, please let me know before next Monday night, as I will be
      going to the LDS Library on Tuesday morning (6 July).

      I�m not trying to usurp your position, Wade, but I now can�t see the
      name "Peterhead" without feeling I have to take all the particulars! I
      also owe you a debt, because it was your information that led me to
      findig these films in the first place.

      I will get back to you shortly with the details of Peter Leslie�s
      voyages, as you thought you might be able to work out what ships he
      sailed on, and that would be great.

      All the best,
      Judy Hand
    • William Leslie
      Hello Judy; Good to hear from you again. I am investigating a Robert Leslie from Longside, who may be my gggg grandfather. I see one on your list, # 114296,
      Message 2 of 11 , Jun 30, 1999
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        Hello Judy;
        Good to hear from you again. I am investigating a Robert Leslie from
        Longside, who may be my gggg grandfather. I see one on your list, # 114296,
        could you please see what there is in this Robert Leslie.
        Regards
        William Leslie

        Judy Hand wrote:

        > From: Judy Hand <j.rhand@...>
        >
        > Dear Wade,
        >
        > Although I haven�t been in touch lately, I have been reading all the
        > messages, and, as I presently have one of the BT113 films out, felt I
        > could assist if anyone wanted me to look up their people. The actual
        > film is 1482548, being BT113/57-58, and the Peterhead men all appear to
        > be together, and I list them below:-
        >
        > Name Number Lived at
        > Peterhead
        > James Nickle (?) 114200 ditto
        > James Ruddack 114201 ditto
        > James Fowett 114202 ditto
        > Andrew Buchan 114203 Inverallochy
        > James Clark 114204 Peterhead
        > George Skeen 114205 ditto
        > James Anderson 114206 ditto
        > Alexander Aiken 114207 ditto
        > Thomas Smith 114208 ditto
        > James Wallace 114209 ditto
        > John Ogston 114210 ditto
        > James Buchan 114211 St. Combs
        > John Slesson 114212 Peterhead
        > Alexander Bruce 114213
        > Mordie Macbeth 114214
        > George Watt 114215 ditto
        > Robert Reid 114216
        > John Allen 114217 ditto
        > Charles Robertson 114218 ditto
        > William Ruddack 114219 ditto
        > James Webster 114220 ditto
        > Alexander Milne 114221
        > James Munro 114222
        > Adam Brown 114223
        > Robert Walker 114224
        > David Bouman 114225
        > Robert Calder 114226
        > Dougle Noble 114227
        > William Cruckshank 114228
        > John Robertson 114229
        > Andrew Samuel 114230
        > Peter Baird 114231
        > Charles Brion 114232
        > William Marshall 114233
        > William Brown 114234
        > Andrew Lyon 114235
        > Charles Smith 114236
        > William Tait 114237
        > Alexander Willor 114238
        > Alexander Johnston 114239
        > John Scott 114240
        > Duncan McLennan 114241
        > James Levine 114242 (Sevine?)
        > Gordon Thompson 114243
        > Alexander Duthie 114244
        > Henry Polson 114245
        > Alexander Leslie 114246
        > John Brown 114247
        > Robert Ogston 114248
        > Alexander Watson 114249
        > James Kinlock 114250
        > Alexander Maclean 114251
        > Nathaniel Davidson 114252
        > James Smith 114253
        > Alexander Smith 114254
        > Andrew Morrison 114255
        > Alexander Sangster 114256
        > William Dalgarno 114257
        > James Reid 114258
        > John Stewart 114259
        > William Duncan 114260
        > James Davidson 114261
        > Alexander Greig 114262 Prestonpans
        > James Begrie 114263
        > John Maitland 114264
        > John Reid 114265
        > John Marshall 114266
        > Geroge Bowman 114267
        > William Cow 114268 Burnhaven
        > David Wallace 114269
        > John Davidson 114270
        > John Witherspoon 114271
        > John Bowman 114272
        > Alexander Lindsay 114273 Could be Andrew
        > Joseph Stevenson 114274
        > John Simpson 114275
        > Robert Duncan 114276 Montrose
        > George Mitchell 114277
        > Peter Edwards 114278
        > David Wallace or Alexander Butter 114279 2 different entries
        > John Hann 114280
        > John Mann 114281
        > John Darg 114282
        > James Emslie 114283 Longside
        > Robert Donaldson 114284
        > George Smith 114281
        > John Thomas 114286
        > George Fowler 114287
        > Thomas Anderson 114278
        > Thomas Milne 114289
        > James Cruickshank 114290
        > Alexander Munro 114291
        > James Law 114292
        > Alexander Craick 114293
        > George Murray Boggie 114294
        > James Lawson 114295
        > Robert Leslie 114296
        > Charles Hutton 114297
        > George McDonald 114298
        > Alexander Wallace 114299
        >
        > These men either lived at Peterhead, or were actually registered at
        > Peterhead, but there were too many to record the details, so I just took
        > a list of their names and numbers. However, if anyone would like me to
        > check them, please let me know before next Monday night, as I will be
        > going to the LDS Library on Tuesday morning (6 July).
        >
        > I�m not trying to usurp your position, Wade, but I now can�t see the
        > name "Peterhead" without feeling I have to take all the particulars! I
        > also owe you a debt, because it was your information that led me to
        > findig these films in the first place.
        >
        > I will get back to you shortly with the details of Peter Leslie�s
        > voyages, as you thought you might be able to work out what ships he
        > sailed on, and that would be great.
        >
        > All the best,
        > Judy Hand
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      • Eve Coppen
        Dear Judy, I only joined the Peterhead list a couple of days ago and have as yet to give my interests. I am researching the name Begrie (my direct line) and I
        Message 3 of 11 , Jun 30, 1999
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          Dear Judy,

          I only joined the Peterhead list a couple of days ago and have as yet to give my
          interests. I am researching the name Begrie (my direct line) and I noticed a James
          Begrie among the men you listed. A lot of my Begries were mariners from Peterhead and
          Longside. I also noticed a George Mitchell. I have a George Mitchell occupation given as
          Ship Master whose son married into my Begries. Judy could you tell me what these films
          are and what period they cover. My ggg-grandfather James Begrie came from either
          Longside/Peterhead and I haven't been able to find any trace of him. I would be very
          interested to know who this James Begrie you have on your list is. I do have a Captain
          Robert Baigrie of Peterhead in the family, a seaman, but this is about 1760.

          I would much appreciate your help. Many thanks,
          Eve Coppen
          Rainham, Kent, England

          Judy Hand wrote:
          >
          > From: Judy Hand <j.rhand@...>
          >
          > Dear Wade,
          >
          > Although I haven�t been in touch lately, I have been reading all the
          > messages, and, as I presently have one of the BT113 films out, felt I
          > could assist if anyone wanted me to look up their people. The actual
          > film is 1482548, being BT113/57-58, and the Peterhead men all appear to
          > be together, and I list them below:-
          >
          > Name Number Lived at
          > Peterhead
          > James Nickle (?) 114200 ditto
          > James Ruddack 114201 ditto
          > James Fowett 114202 ditto
          > Andrew Buchan 114203 Inverallochy
          > James Clark 114204 Peterhead
          > George Skeen 114205 ditto
          > James Anderson 114206 ditto
          > Alexander Aiken 114207 ditto
          > Thomas Smith 114208 ditto
          > James Wallace 114209 ditto
          > John Ogston 114210 ditto
          > James Buchan 114211 St. Combs
          > John Slesson 114212 Peterhead
          > Alexander Bruce 114213
          > Mordie Macbeth 114214
          > George Watt 114215 ditto
          > Robert Reid 114216
          > John Allen 114217 ditto
          > Charles Robertson 114218 ditto
          > William Ruddack 114219 ditto
          > James Webster 114220 ditto
          > Alexander Milne 114221
          > James Munro 114222
          > Adam Brown 114223
          > Robert Walker 114224
          > David Bouman 114225
          > Robert Calder 114226
          > Dougle Noble 114227
          > William Cruckshank 114228
          > John Robertson 114229
          > Andrew Samuel 114230
          > Peter Baird 114231
          > Charles Brion 114232
          > William Marshall 114233
          > William Brown 114234
          > Andrew Lyon 114235
          > Charles Smith 114236
          > William Tait 114237
          > Alexander Willor 114238
          > Alexander Johnston 114239
          > John Scott 114240
          > Duncan McLennan 114241
          > James Levine 114242 (Sevine?)
          > Gordon Thompson 114243
          > Alexander Duthie 114244
          > Henry Polson 114245
          > Alexander Leslie 114246
          > John Brown 114247
          > Robert Ogston 114248
          > Alexander Watson 114249
          > James Kinlock 114250
          > Alexander Maclean 114251
          > Nathaniel Davidson 114252
          > James Smith 114253
          > Alexander Smith 114254
          > Andrew Morrison 114255
          > Alexander Sangster 114256
          > William Dalgarno 114257
          > James Reid 114258
          > John Stewart 114259
          > William Duncan 114260
          > James Davidson 114261
          > Alexander Greig 114262 Prestonpans
          > James Begrie 114263
          > John Maitland 114264
          > John Reid 114265
          > John Marshall 114266
          > Geroge Bowman 114267
          > William Cow 114268 Burnhaven
          > David Wallace 114269
          > John Davidson 114270
          > John Witherspoon 114271
          > John Bowman 114272
          > Alexander Lindsay 114273 Could be Andrew
          > Joseph Stevenson 114274
          > John Simpson 114275
          > Robert Duncan 114276 Montrose
          > George Mitchell 114277
          > Peter Edwards 114278
          > David Wallace or Alexander Butter 114279 2 different entries
          > John Hann 114280
          > John Mann 114281
          > John Darg 114282
          > James Emslie 114283 Longside
          > Robert Donaldson 114284
          > George Smith 114281
          > John Thomas 114286
          > George Fowler 114287
          > Thomas Anderson 114278
          > Thomas Milne 114289
          > James Cruickshank 114290
          > Alexander Munro 114291
          > James Law 114292
          > Alexander Craick 114293
          > George Murray Boggie 114294
          > James Lawson 114295
          > Robert Leslie 114296
          > Charles Hutton 114297
          > George McDonald 114298
          > Alexander Wallace 114299
          >
          > These men either lived at Peterhead, or were actually registered at
          > Peterhead, but there were too many to record the details, so I just took
          > a list of their names and numbers. However, if anyone would like me to
          > check them, please let me know before next Monday night, as I will be
          > going to the LDS Library on Tuesday morning (6 July).
          >
          > I�m not trying to usurp your position, Wade, but I now can�t see the
          > name "Peterhead" without feeling I have to take all the particulars! I
          > also owe you a debt, because it was your information that led me to
          > findig these films in the first place.
          >
          > I will get back to you shortly with the details of Peter Leslie�s
          > voyages, as you thought you might be able to work out what ships he
          > sailed on, and that would be great.
          >
          > All the best,
          > Judy Hand
        • Garry & Debbie
          Hello Judy, I would be very interested if you could look up the information for me on; George Watt 114215 Peterhead. Here s hoping he is one of
          Message 4 of 11 , Jul 1, 1999
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            Hello Judy,

            I would be very interested if you could look up the information for me on;

            George Watt 114215 Peterhead.

            Here's hoping he is one of mine.

            Debbie Cunningham
            Perth, Western Australia.

            Judy Hand wrote:

            > From: Judy Hand <j.rhand@...>
            >
            > Dear Wade,
            >
            > Although I haven�t been in touch lately, I have been reading all the
            > messages, and, as I presently have one of the BT113 films out, felt I
            > could assist if anyone wanted me to look up their people. The actual
            > film is 1482548, being BT113/57-58, and the Peterhead men all appear to
            > be together, and I list them below:-
            >
            > Name Number Lived at
            > Peterhead
            > James Nickle (?) 114200 ditto
            > James Ruddack 114201 ditto
            > James Fowett 114202 ditto
            > Andrew Buchan 114203 Inverallochy
            > James Clark 114204 Peterhead
            > George Skeen 114205 ditto
            > James Anderson 114206 ditto
            > Alexander Aiken 114207 ditto
            > Thomas Smith 114208 ditto
            > James Wallace 114209 ditto
            > John Ogston 114210 ditto
            > James Buchan 114211 St. Combs
            > John Slesson 114212 Peterhead
            > Alexander Bruce 114213
            > Mordie Macbeth 114214
            > George Watt 114215 ditto
            > Robert Reid 114216
            > John Allen 114217 ditto
            > Charles Robertson 114218 ditto
            > William Ruddack 114219 ditto
            > James Webster 114220 ditto
            > Alexander Milne 114221
            > James Munro 114222
            > Adam Brown 114223
            > Robert Walker 114224
            > David Bouman 114225
            > Robert Calder 114226
            > Dougle Noble 114227
            > William Cruckshank 114228
            > John Robertson 114229
            > Andrew Samuel 114230
            > Peter Baird 114231
            > Charles Brion 114232
            > William Marshall 114233
            > William Brown 114234
            > Andrew Lyon 114235
            > Charles Smith 114236
            > William Tait 114237
            > Alexander Willor 114238
            > Alexander Johnston 114239
            > John Scott 114240
            > Duncan McLennan 114241
            > James Levine 114242 (Sevine?)
            > Gordon Thompson 114243
            > Alexander Duthie 114244
            > Henry Polson 114245
            > Alexander Leslie 114246
            > John Brown 114247
            > Robert Ogston 114248
            > Alexander Watson 114249
            > James Kinlock 114250
            > Alexander Maclean 114251
            > Nathaniel Davidson 114252
            > James Smith 114253
            > Alexander Smith 114254
            > Andrew Morrison 114255
            > Alexander Sangster 114256
            > William Dalgarno 114257
            > James Reid 114258
            > John Stewart 114259
            > William Duncan 114260
            > James Davidson 114261
            > Alexander Greig 114262 Prestonpans
            > James Begrie 114263
            > John Maitland 114264
            > John Reid 114265
            > John Marshall 114266
            > Geroge Bowman 114267
            > William Cow 114268 Burnhaven
            > David Wallace 114269
            > John Davidson 114270
            > John Witherspoon 114271
            > John Bowman 114272
            > Alexander Lindsay 114273 Could be Andrew
            > Joseph Stevenson 114274
            > John Simpson 114275
            > Robert Duncan 114276 Montrose
            > George Mitchell 114277
            > Peter Edwards 114278
            > David Wallace or Alexander Butter 114279 2 different entries
            > John Hann 114280
            > John Mann 114281
            > John Darg 114282
            > James Emslie 114283 Longside
            > Robert Donaldson 114284
            > George Smith 114281
            > John Thomas 114286
            > George Fowler 114287
            > Thomas Anderson 114278
            > Thomas Milne 114289
            > James Cruickshank 114290
            > Alexander Munro 114291
            > James Law 114292
            > Alexander Craick 114293
            > George Murray Boggie 114294
            > James Lawson 114295
            > Robert Leslie 114296
            > Charles Hutton 114297
            > George McDonald 114298
            > Alexander Wallace 114299
            >
            > These men either lived at Peterhead, or were actually registered at
            > Peterhead, but there were too many to record the details, so I just took
            > a list of their names and numbers. However, if anyone would like me to
            > check them, please let me know before next Monday night, as I will be
            > going to the LDS Library on Tuesday morning (6 July).
            >
            > I�m not trying to usurp your position, Wade, but I now can�t see the
            > name "Peterhead" without feeling I have to take all the particulars! I
            > also owe you a debt, because it was your information that led me to
            > findig these films in the first place.
            >
            > I will get back to you shortly with the details of Peter Leslie�s
            > voyages, as you thought you might be able to work out what ships he
            > sailed on, and that would be great.
            >
            > All the best,
            > Judy Hand
            >
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          • Wade Buchan
            Hi Judy, ... If it is not too late or a problem could I get these ones please. ... Thank you for offering to look at these records for others. This was one of
            Message 5 of 11 , Jul 3, 1999
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              Hi Judy,

              Judy Hand wrote:

              > James Buchan 114211 St. Combs
              > Alexander Bruce 114213
              > Robert Reid 114216
              > James Reid 114258
              > John Reid 114265
              > John Davidson 114270

              If it is not too late or a problem could I get these ones please.

              > I�m not trying to usurp your position, Wade, but I now can�t see the
              > name "Peterhead" without feeling I have to take all the particulars!

              Thank you for offering to look at these records for others. This was
              one of the reasons for starting this list, so that I and others could
              pass on Peterhead records and information that they find when doing
              research. The other is in the hope that people make contact with fellow
              Peterhead researchers.
              >
              Regards, Wade.
            • Joanne Pye
              Hi all, I have heard that there is a list of seamen at the end of the 1851 census, and was wondering if someone could tell me what information these entries
              Message 6 of 11 , Aug 2, 2000
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                Hi all,
                 
                I have heard that there is a list of seamen at the end of the 1851 census, and was wondering if someone could tell me what information these entries include as I have no idea!
                 
                In particular, I would be very interested and grateful if sks could tell me if the following men are listed on it.  These are:
                 
                CHARLES MILNE    b1830 approx. Merchant Seaman.   Maybe living with a MARY SMITH (his mother) or WILLIAM MILNE (his father) but not necessarily both.
                 
                Also:
                 
                JOHN WEBSTER
                BENJAMIN SKINNER
                 
                These two gentlemen were witnesses to Charles' wedding and I am hoping to find them as seamen too.  My apologies for being so vague, but I have little information on these men prior to 1851.
                 
                Thank you so much for your understanding and I look forward to hopefully speaking to some of you soon.
                Joanne.     
              • Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes
                Lynn, Thank you for the information about the ship SS Labrador. Robert Ogston age 42 is in my husband s family tree. How does one get the information about the
                Message 7 of 11 , Nov 28, 2002
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                  Lynn, Thank you for the information about the ship SS Labrador. Robert
                  Ogston age 42 is in my husband's family tree. How does one get the
                  information about the Peterhead Seaman-through the Mormon's Family
                  History Centres?-if so-under which heading are they in cataloges?
                  Betty.
                • i.l.tilbury
                  For Elizabeth Holmes Hi Betty Im so glad i have been able to help ., what i have is Agreement and account of crew no 52 What it says about your Robert Ogston
                  Message 8 of 11 , Nov 28, 2002
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                    For Elizabeth Holmes
                    Hi Betty
                    Im so glad i have been able to help ., what i have is Agreement and account
                    of crew no 52
                    What it says about your Robert Ogston , theres his name, then next to that
                    it says his age , then Peterhead
                    Then if in the reserveno of commission 45531, then it says he was last on
                    the ship Tay of Dundee, 1873
                    He was a fast Harpooner
                    Now if you look on the net for the Hudson Bay Company Achives , contact then
                    ,
                    The Lady who will help you is Ann Morton , they are very helpful and tou
                    will be surpriced at what you might get
                    Lyn




                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
                    To: <Peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 3:17 PM
                    Subject: [Peterhead] Peterhead Seamen


                    > Lynn, Thank you for the information about the ship SS Labrador. Robert
                    > Ogston age 42 is in my husband's family tree. How does one get the
                    > information about the Peterhead Seaman-through the Mormon's Family
                    > History Centres?-if so-under which heading are they in cataloges?
                    > Betty.
                    >
                    > Peterhead Genealogy at http://www.axs.com.au/~wsb/
                    >
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                    >
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                  • joanne.pye
                    Hi Wade and everyone, I was wondering, do you have any information on the following 2 seamen please? Shand McKINNON born approx 1818 in Peterhead. He was a
                    Message 9 of 11 , Feb 16, 2004
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                      Hi Wade and everyone,

                      I was wondering, do you have any information on the following 2 seamen
                      please?

                      Shand McKINNON born approx 1818 in Peterhead. He was a ship's keeper,
                      Ticket No: 34985 - BT 98/2680. I think he may have died either on board the
                      COLUMBIA in 1851 or in Greenland whilst working. I think he was the son of
                      John McKINNON and Isabella RIACH nee RAE.

                      I realise I have asked you about Shand before but as I've been given this
                      additional information, I thought I'd ask your advice. I hope you don't
                      mind. Do you know where this death is likely to have been recorded?

                      Also, do you have anything about James MILNE born approx 1829 Crimond,
                      ticket number 129347 / BT/98/2680. I believe he was on the ships DUBLIN of
                      Peterhead and ENTERPRISE of Peterhead. I'd be really grateful if you could
                      tell me anything about this man as I'm hoping he is a brother to my Charles
                      MILNE.

                      Thank you very much for any information you can offer and thank you also for
                      your time.

                      Joanne
                      Researching in Peterhead: MILNE, KINLOCH, McKINNON, RIACH, WALKER
                    • Wade Buchan
                      Hi Joanne, I guess your new information is from the Seamen s Crewlist 1851 CD by Liz Hore. I don t have any extra merchant marine information and as they were
                      Message 10 of 11 , Feb 24, 2004
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                        Hi Joanne,

                        I guess your new information is from the Seamen's Crewlist 1851 CD by Liz Hore. I don't have any extra merchant marine information and as they were both away in Greenland whaling, they don't appear in the 1851 Census.

                        Shand McKinnon died 6th April 1851 in the Greenland area whilst whaling, the comments say cause unknown. In other crew agreements I've seen, the cause is usually given for accidents eg. falling from rigging. This might suggest it was a medical condition. The other problem is the death was before civil registration, so you will not get a death certificate. The whaling boats were known to pick up extra crew in the Shetlands, so Shand could have been buried at sea, the first Port of return ie. Shetlands or somewhere else or returned to Peterhead and buried in a family plot.

                        Since you know the ticket numbers for both of them, you can get the Seamen's Ticket information, which should give the date of birth and physical description. I'd also suggest checking to see if he was buried in Peterhead knowing the year and the unusual name.

                        Regards, Wade.


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                      • joanne.pye
                        Hi Wade, Thank you so much for your help with this, I ll certainly now try and find out where he was buried. I was given the information from someone who has
                        Message 11 of 11 , Feb 24, 2004
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                          Hi Wade,

                          Thank you so much for your help with this, I'll certainly now try and find
                          out where he was buried. I was given the information from someone who has
                          the CD you mentioned and thank you for your suggestion of obtaining his
                          information, I'll try that too!

                          Thanks again,
                          Joanne
                          Researching in Peterhead: MILNE, KINLOCH, MCKINNON, RIACH, WALKER


                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: "Wade Buchan" <wsb@...>
                          To: <Peterhead@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:18 AM
                          Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Peterhead Seamen


                          > Hi Joanne,
                          >
                          > I guess your new information is from the Seamen's Crewlist 1851 CD by Liz
                          Hore. I don't have any extra merchant marine information and as they were
                          both away in Greenland whaling, they don't appear in the 1851 Census.
                          >
                          > Shand McKinnon died 6th April 1851 in the Greenland area whilst whaling,
                          the comments say cause unknown. In other crew agreements I've seen, the
                          cause is usually given for accidents eg. falling from rigging. This might
                          suggest it was a medical condition. The other problem is the death was
                          before civil registration, so you will not get a death certificate. The
                          whaling boats were known to pick up extra crew in the Shetlands, so Shand
                          could have been buried at sea, the first Port of return ie. Shetlands or
                          somewhere else or returned to Peterhead and buried in a family plot.
                          >
                          > Since you know the ticket numbers for both of them, you can get the
                          Seamen's Ticket information, which should give the date of birth and
                          physical description. I'd also suggest checking to see if he was buried in
                          Peterhead knowing the year and the unusual name.
                          >
                          > Regards, Wade.
                          >
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