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  • colin collie
    Hi It is not only the graveyard but the whole area the beach was disgrace the last time I was up, my father was in charge of the lido now the maritine
    Message 1 of 17 , Apr 27, 2008
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      Hi
      It is not only the graveyard but the whole area the beach was disgrace the last time I was up, my father was in charge of the lido now the maritine exhibition centre and before he left at night he picked up every bit rubbish there was and emptied the litter bins which the people used not like those today who have no regard for people property etc. He would turn in his grave if he saw it now. The whole town is untidy with litter we had scaffies cleaning the streets although there was not the thoughtlessness that seems to run today.
      Sorry for going on but it annoys me so much.
      Colin


      To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: william.leslie@...: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:32:46 +0000Subject: [Peterhead] St Peter's Cemetery




      I have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great grandparents and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice that this monument is easily readable and in good shape excpt for the Urn missing from the top.In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and showed me this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the ground and had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt said,"When I win the Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I thought, does it cost that much that you have to win a lottery to get it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials and got a quote to clean the stone, redo the lettering and replace the top and the urn. By the time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.I was in Peterhead in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On different days I walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they would repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable cemetery. It seems that no one has this responsibility. They readily gave me permission to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful for this. In my several visits to St Peter's I was apalled by the amount of vandalism damage and other sheer neglect that is evident in the upper and older area of this historic site. Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups of ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I thought that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group. This group, drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would work with officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to repair monuments where possible and otherwise look after this holy ground where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a great project for the Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?RegardsWilliam Leslie







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    • William Leslie
      Hello Colin; My family also placed a new stone on my grandparents grave in the Constitution Street Cemetery which is better looked after than the upper part
      Message 2 of 17 , Apr 27, 2008
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        Hello Colin;
        My family also placed a new stone on my grandparents' grave in the Constitution Street Cemetery which is better looked after than the upper part of St Peter's.
        Before I did the work in both these cemeteries, I went in to talk to the manager of the local cemetery in my home town. I wanted to know who had the responsibility and what approval I needed to contract for the work.
        The manager here indicated that they had had some serious vandalism where someone had broken a large number of old marble stones with something like a baseball bat. It is next to impossible to trace the family on some of these old graves so the cemetery board took the responsibility as theirs. They obviously could not leave 20 or so stones lying broken on the ground forever. They sent out for quotes to the local monument companies and were surprised when they got back the response that the cost of repair would be $0. There are more good people than bad in the world, thank heavens.
        I still think we should form a "Friends of St Peter's Cemetery" group.
        Regards
        William
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        From: colin collie
        To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:59 AM
        Subject: RE: [Peterhead] St Peter's Cemetery



        Hi
        It is not only the graveyard but the whole area the beach was disgrace the last time I was up, my father was in charge of the lido now the maritine exhibition centre and before he left at night he picked up every bit rubbish there was and emptied the litter bins which the people used not like those today who have no regard for people property etc. He would turn in his grave if he saw it now. The whole town is untidy with litter we had scaffies cleaning the streets although there was not the thoughtlessness that seems to run today.
        Sorry for going on but it annoys me so much.
        Colin

        To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: william.leslie@...: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:32:46 +0000Subject: [Peterhead] St Peter's Cemetery

        I have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great grandparents and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice that this monument is easily readable and in good shape excpt for the Urn missing from the top.In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and showed me this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the ground and had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt said,"When I win the Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I thought, does it cost that much that you have to win a lottery to get it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials and got a quote to clean the stone, redo the lettering and replace the top and the urn. By the time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.I was in Peterhead in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On different days I walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they would repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable cemetery. It seems that no one has this responsibility. They readily gave me permission to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful for this. In my several visits to St Peter's I was apalled by the amount of vandalism damage and other sheer neglect that is evident in the upper and older area of this historic site. Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups of ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I thought that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group. This group, drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would work with officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to repair monuments where possible and otherwise look after this holy ground where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a great project for the Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?RegardsWilliam Leslie

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      • kathytrevelyan
        I went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather s grave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and set off to look for the plot.
        Message 3 of 17 , Apr 27, 2008
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          I went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather's grave in
          the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and set off
          to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to find
          that there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because he
          was a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer
          about his illness and death and also an account of his funeral which
          seems to have been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out
          what happened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one
          when the lottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are
          kept with details of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is
          hghly unlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he
          was Rector of Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.

          Thanks,
          Kathy




          --- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>
          wrote:
          >
          > I have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History
          > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great
          grandparents
          > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice
          > that this monument is easily readable and in good shape excpt for
          the
          > Urn missing from the top.
          > In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and
          showed
          > me this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the
          > ground and had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt
          > said,"When I win the Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I
          > thought, does it cost that much that you have to win a lottery to
          get
          > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials and got a quote to clean
          > the stone, redo the lettering and replace the top and the urn. By
          the
          > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.
          > Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo
          NY,
          > pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.
          > I was in Peterhead in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job.
          On
          > different days I walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn
          > and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages,
          > etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all
          the
          > backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.
          > When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to
          > officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they
          > would repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable
          > cemetery. It seems that no one has this responsibility. They
          readily
          > gave me permission to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful
          for
          > this. In my several visits to St Peter's I was apalled by the
          amount
          > of vandalism damage and other sheer neglect that is evident in the
          > upper and older area of this historic site.
          > Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups
          of
          > ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I
          thought
          > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group.
          This
          > group, drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would
          > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to
          repair
          > monuments where possible and otherwise look after this holy ground
          > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a great project for the
          > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?
          > Regards
          > William Leslie
          >
        • Henderson, Roy
          Hi Kathy, Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? It might just be worth checking that the stones on either side do match with the lair
          Message 4 of 17 , Apr 27, 2008
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            Hi Kathy,



            Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? It might just
            be worth checking that the stones on either side do match with the lair
            records.



            Secondly, would your grandfather have had local family surviving him?
            There's always a slight chance that if there were no local relatives
            then no stone might have been erected.



            Thirdly, given his position, it might have been the intention to fund a
            memorial from public subscription which may never have been concluded.



            Finally, I would not have expected a stone to disappear completely from
            Constitution St over the last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rare
            and any broken stone would probably have been left in situ albeit not
            left standing.



            Have you any plans to return?



            Regards,



            Roy



            ________________________________

            From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On
            Behalf Of kathytrevelyan
            Sent: 27 April 2008 19:00
            To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery



            I went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather's grave in
            the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and set off
            to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to find
            that there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because he
            was a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer
            about his illness and death and also an account of his funeral which
            seems to have been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out
            what happened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one
            when the lottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are
            kept with details of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is
            hghly unlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he
            was Rector of Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.

            Thanks,
            Kathy

            --- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ,
            "pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>
            wrote:
            >
            > I have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History
            > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great
            grandparents
            > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice
            > that this monument is easily readable and in good shape excpt for
            the
            > Urn missing from the top.
            > In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and
            showed
            > me this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the
            > ground and had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt
            > said,"When I win the Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I
            > thought, does it cost that much that you have to win a lottery to
            get
            > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials and got a quote to clean
            > the stone, redo the lettering and replace the top and the urn. By
            the
            > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.
            > Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo
            NY,
            > pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.
            > I was in Peterhead in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job.
            On
            > different days I walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn
            > and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages,
            > etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all
            the
            > backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.
            > When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to
            > officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they
            > would repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable
            > cemetery. It seems that no one has this responsibility. They
            readily
            > gave me permission to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful
            for
            > this. In my several visits to St Peter's I was apalled by the
            amount
            > of vandalism damage and other sheer neglect that is evident in the
            > upper and older area of this historic site.
            > Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups
            of
            > ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I
            thought
            > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group.
            This
            > group, drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would
            > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to
            repair
            > monuments where possible and otherwise look after this holy ground
            > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a great project for the
            > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?
            > Regards
            > William Leslie
            >




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          • Kathy Trevelyan
            Hi Roy, I m sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the help of a stonemason who was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles was survived by his wife
            Message 5 of 17 , Apr 27, 2008
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              Hi Roy,

              I'm sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the help of a stonemason who was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles was survived by his wife and several children and her family were well off, so it could not have been lack of funds. I think it's possible that a public subscription would have been planned - do you think the Buchan Observer would mention this ? I will have to come back up and look through the archives, but goodness knows when I'll be able to get there! I don't suppose the Buchan Observer is available online is it? I've googled it, but no luck.

              Thanks for your thoughts,
              Kathy




              To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: roy.henderson@...: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:19:12 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery




              Hi Kathy,Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? It might justbe worth checking that the stones on either side do match with the lairrecords.Secondly, would your grandfather have had local family surviving him?There's always a slight chance that if there were no local relativesthen no stone might have been erected.Thirdly, given his position, it might have been the intention to fund amemorial from public subscription which may never have been concluded.Finally, I would not have expected a stone to disappear completely fromConstitution St over the last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rareand any broken stone would probably have been left in situ albeit notleft standing.Have you any plans to return?Regards,Roy________________________________From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of kathytrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 19:00To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryI went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather's grave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and set off to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to find that there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because he was a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer about his illness and death and also an account of his funeral which seems to have been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out what happened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one when the lottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are kept with details of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is hghly unlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he was Rector of Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.Thanks,Kathy--- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ,"pleslie23" <william.leslie@...> wrote:>> I have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great grandparents > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice > that this monument is easily readable and in good shape excpt for the > Urn missing from the top.> In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and showed > me this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the > ground and had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt > said,"When I win the Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I > thought, does it cost that much that you have to win a lottery to get > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials and got a quote to clean > the stone, redo the lettering and replace the top and the urn. By the > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.> Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, > pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.> I was in Peterhead in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On > different days I walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn > and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, > etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the > backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.> When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to > officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they > would repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable > cemetery. It seems that no one has this responsibility. They readily > gave me permission to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful for > this. In my several visits to St Peter's I was apalled by the amount > of vandalism damage and other sheer neglect that is evident in the > upper and older area of this historic site. > Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups of > ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I thought > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group. This > group, drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to repair > monuments where possible and otherwise look after this holy ground > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a great project for the > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?> Regards> William Leslie>===============================CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message is intended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are not the intended recipient,please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The sender totally disclaims, and will not accept, any responsibility or liability for the unauthorized use, or the consequences of any unauthorized use,of this communication or message.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







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            • Henderson, Roy
              I am sure the Buchan Observer would have made mention of any public subscription Kathy. I don t think editions from the 1930s are available online - some from
              Message 6 of 17 , Apr 28, 2008
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                I am sure the Buchan Observer would have made mention of any public
                subscription Kathy. I don't think editions from the 1930s are available
                online - some from the last couple of years are. They are available on
                microfilm at the library in Peterhead. It does seem strange that someone
                so prominent (then) in the local community does not have any memorial.



                I believe the FHSB is giving some thought to a project to scan the
                Buchan Observer using current technology as a precursor to perhaps
                eventually making it available to those outwith the local area - however
                that is still very much at the embryonic stage just now and has not yet
                even been adopted as a formal project as far as I know.



                Did your grandfather die in-post or following retirement?



                Regards,



                Roy



                ________________________________

                From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On
                Behalf Of Kathy Trevelyan
                Sent: 27 April 2008 20:29
                To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery



                Hi Roy,

                I'm sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the help of a stonemason
                who was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles was survived by his
                wife and several children and her family were well off, so it could not
                have been lack of funds. I think it's possible that a public
                subscription would have been planned - do you think the Buchan Observer
                would mention this ? I will have to come back up and look through the
                archives, but goodness knows when I'll be able to get there! I don't
                suppose the Buchan Observer is available online is it? I've googled it,
                but no luck.

                Thanks for your thoughts,
                Kathy



                To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom
                <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :
                roy.henderson@...
                <mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate> : Sun, 27 Apr 2008
                20:19:12 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery

                Hi Kathy,Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? It
                might justbe worth checking that the stones on either side do match with
                the lairrecords.Secondly, would your grandfather have had local family
                surviving him?There's always a slight chance that if there were no local
                relativesthen no stone might have been erected.Thirdly, given his
                position, it might have been the intention to fund amemorial from public
                subscription which may never have been concluded.Finally, I would not
                have expected a stone to disappear completely fromConstitution St over
                the last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rareand any broken stone
                would probably have been left in situ albeit notleft standing.Have you
                any plans to return?Regards,Roy________________________________From:
                Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
                [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ]
                OnBehalf Of kathytrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 19:00To:
                Peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject
                <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject> : [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's
                CemeteryI went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather's
                grave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and set
                off to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to find
                that there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because he
                was a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer about
                his illness and death and also an account of his funeral which seems to
                have been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out what
                happened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one when the
                lottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are kept with
                details of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is hghly
                unlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he was Rector
                of Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.Thanks,Kathy--- In
                Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
                <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ,"pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>
                wrote:>> I have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family
                History > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great
                grandparents > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You
                will notice > that this monument is easily readable and in good shape
                excpt for the > Urn missing from the top.> In 1996 two of my Peterhead
                aunts took me to this cemetery and showed > me this monument. The top
                stone cover and the urn were lying on the > ground and had obviously
                been broken off by vandals. One aunt > said,"When I win the Lottery, I
                will egt this fixed." Well, I > thought, does it cost that much that you
                have to win a lottery to get > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials
                and got a quote to clean > the stone, redo the lettering and replace the
                top and the urn. By the > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.>
                Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, >
                pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.> I was in Peterhead
                in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On > different days I
                walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn > and picking up
                garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, > etc. but never
                found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the > backyards nearby
                to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.> When I first thought
                about repairing this stone, I talked to > officials of the Aberdeenshire
                government to find out whether they > would repair vandalism damage in
                this old and historically valuable > cemetery. It seems that no one has
                this responsibility. They readily > gave me permission to go ahead and
                do it, however.I was thankful for > this. In my several visits to St
                Peter's I was apalled by the amount > of vandalism damage and other
                sheer neglect that is evident in the > upper and older area of this
                historic site. > Having had much experience in my country with the power
                of groups of > ordinary citizens to get things done when officials
                cannot, I thought > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S
                CEMETERY group. This > group, drawn from those of us who have family
                buried there, would > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean,
                raise funds to repair > monuments where possible and otherwise look
                after this holy ground > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a
                great project for the > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?>
                Regards> William Leslie>===============================CONFIDENTIAL &
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              • colin collie
                Hi William If you are forming a friends of St. Peters Cemetery group let me know as I would be quite interested. Colin To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom:
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                  Hi William
                  If you are forming a friends of St. Peters Cemetery group let me know as I would be quite interested.
                  Colin


                  To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: william.leslie@...: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:36:18 -0400Subject: Re: [Peterhead] St Peter's Cemetery




                  Hello Colin;My family also placed a new stone on my grandparents' grave in the Constitution Street Cemetery which is better looked after than the upper part of St Peter's.Before I did the work in both these cemeteries, I went in to talk to the manager of the local cemetery in my home town. I wanted to know who had the responsibility and what approval I needed to contract for the work.The manager here indicated that they had had some serious vandalism where someone had broken a large number of old marble stones with something like a baseball bat. It is next to impossible to trace the family on some of these old graves so the cemetery board took the responsibility as theirs. They obviously could not leave 20 or so stones lying broken on the ground forever. They sent out for quotes to the local monument companies and were surprised when they got back the response that the cost of repair would be $0. There are more good people than bad in the world, thank heavens.I still think we should form a "Friends of St Peter's Cemetery" group. RegardsWilliam----- Original Message ----- From: colin collie To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:59 AMSubject: RE: [Peterhead] St Peter's CemeteryHiIt is not only the graveyard but the whole area the beach was disgrace the last time I was up, my father was in charge of the lido now the maritine exhibition centre and before he left at night he picked up every bit rubbish there was and emptied the litter bins which the people used not like those today who have no regard for people property etc. He would turn in his grave if he saw it now. The whole town is untidy with litter we had scaffies cleaning the streets although there was not the thoughtlessness that seems to run today.Sorry for going on but it annoys me so much.ColinTo: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: william.leslie@...: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:32:46 +0000Subject: [Peterhead] St Peter's CemeteryI have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great grandparents and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice that this monument is easily readable and in good shape excpt for the Urn missing from the top.In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and showed me this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the ground and had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt said,"When I win the Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I thought, does it cost that much that you have to win a lottery to get it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials and got a quote to clean the stone, redo the lettering and replace the top and the urn. By the time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.I was in Peterhead in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On different days I walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they would repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable cemetery. It seems that no one has this responsibility. They readily gave me permission to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful for this. In my several visits to St Peter's I was apalled by the amount of vandalism damage and other sheer neglect that is evident in the upper and older area of this historic site. Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups of ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I thought that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group. This group, drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would work with officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to repair monuments where possible and otherwise look after this holy ground where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a great project for the Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?RegardsWilliam Leslie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







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                • keithbaigrie
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                    --- In Peterhead@yahoogroups.com, "pleslie23" <william.leslie@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History
                    > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great grandparents
                    > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice
                    > that this monument is easily readable and in good shape excpt for the
                    > Urn missing from the top.
                    > In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and showed
                    > me this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the
                    > ground and had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt
                    > said,"When I win the Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I
                    > thought, does it cost that much that you have to win a lottery to get
                    > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorials and got a quote to clean
                    > the stone, redo the lettering and replace the top and the urn. By the
                    > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.
                    > Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY,
                    > pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.
                    > I was in Peterhead in 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On
                    > different days I walked all over that cemetery looking for the urn
                    > and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages,
                    > etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the
                    > backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.
                    > When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to
                    > officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they
                    > would repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable
                    > cemetery. It seems that no one has this responsibility. They readily
                    > gave me permission to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful for
                    > this. In my several visits to St Peter's I was apalled by the amount
                    > of vandalism damage and other sheer neglect that is evident in the
                    > upper and older area of this historic site.
                    > Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups of
                    > ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I thought
                    > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group. This
                    > group, drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would
                    > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to repair
                    > monuments where possible and otherwise look after this holy ground
                    > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be a great project for the
                    > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?
                    > Regards
                    > William Leslie
                    >
                  • William Leslie
                    Hello Colin; I will let you know if something comes about but I still think that this would be a good project for the FSHB. It could be an annual outing, like
                    Message 9 of 17 , Apr 28, 2008
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                      Hello Colin;

                      I will let you know if something comes about but I still think that this
                      would be a good project for the FSHB. It could be an annual outing, like the
                      day of the dead where people would go to visit their dead ancestors and have
                      a picnic in the cemetery and clean it up at the same time.

                      Regards

                      William



                      _____

                      From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                      Of colin collie
                      Sent: April 28, 2008 8:54 AM
                      To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: RE: [Peterhead] St Peter's Cemetery




                      Hi William
                      If you are forming a friends of St. Peters Cemetery group let me know as I
                      would be quite interested.
                      Colin

                      To: Peterhead@yahoogrou <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> ps.comFrom:
                      william.leslie@ <mailto:william.leslie%40sympatico.caDate> sympatico.caDate:
                      Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:36:18 -0400Subject: Re: [Peterhead] St Peter's Cemetery

                      Hello Colin;My family also placed a new stone on my grandparents' grave in
                      the Constitution Street Cemetery which is better looked after than the upper
                      part of St Peter's.Before I did the work in both these cemeteries, I went in
                      to talk to the manager of the local cemetery in my home town. I wanted to
                      know who had the responsibility and what approval I needed to contract for
                      the work.The manager here indicated that they had had some serious vandalism
                      where someone had broken a large number of old marble stones with something
                      like a baseball bat. It is next to impossible to trace the family on some of
                      these old graves so the cemetery board took the responsibility as theirs.
                      They obviously could not leave 20 or so stones lying broken on the ground
                      forever. They sent out for quotes to the local monument companies and were
                      surprised when they got back the response that the cost of repair would be
                      $0. There are more good people than bad in the world, thank heavens.I still
                      think we should form a "Friends of St Peter's Cemetery" group.
                      RegardsWilliam----- Original Message ----- From: colin collie To:
                      peterhead@yahoogrou <mailto:peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent:
                      Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:59 AMSubject: RE: [Peterhead] St Peter's
                      CemeteryHiIt is not only the graveyard but the whole area the beach was
                      disgrace the last time I was up, my father was in charge of the lido now the
                      maritine exhibition centre and before he left at night he picked up every
                      bit rubbish there was and emptied the litter bins which the people used not
                      like those today who have no regard for people property etc. He would turn
                      in his grave if he saw it now. The whole town is untidy with litter we had
                      scaffies cleaning the streets although there was not the thoughtlessness
                      that seems to run today.Sorry for going on but it annoys me so much.ColinTo:
                      Peterhead@yahoogrou <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> ps.comFrom:
                      william.leslie@ <mailto:william.leslie%40sympatico.caDate> sympatico.caDate:
                      Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:32:46 +0000Subject: [Peterhead] St Peter's CemeteryI
                      have finally sat down to review the CD from the Family History Society of
                      Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my great grandparents and great
                      grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. You will notice that this monument
                      is easily readable and in good shape excpt for the Urn missing from the
                      top.In 1996 two of my Peterhead aunts took me to this cemetery and showed me
                      this monument. The top stone cover and the urn were lying on the ground and
                      had obviously been broken off by vandals. One aunt said,"When I win the
                      Lottery, I will egt this fixed." Well, I thought, does it cost that much
                      that you have to win a lottery to get it fixed. I contacted Robertson
                      Memorials and got a quote to clean the stone, redo the lettering and replace
                      the top and the urn. By the time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.Many
                      of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, pitched in
                      and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.I was in Peterhead in 2005 and
                      visited st Peter's to see the job. On different days I walked all over that
                      cemetery looking for the urn and picking up garbage, chip bags, drink cans
                      cigarette packages, etc. but never found it. I did have an idea to go
                      looking in all the backyards nearby to see if I could see it but abandonned
                      that idea.When I first thought about repairing this stone, I talked to
                      officials of the Aberdeenshire government to find out whether they would
                      repair vandalism damage in this old and historically valuable cemetery. It
                      seems that no one has this responsibility. They readily gave me permission
                      to go ahead and do it, however.I was thankful for this. In my several visits
                      to St Peter's I was apalled by the amount of vandalism damage and other
                      sheer neglect that is evident in the upper and older area of this historic
                      site. Having had much experience in my country with the power of groups of
                      ordinary citizens to get things done when officials cannot, I thought that
                      someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'S CEMETERY group. This group,
                      drawn from those of us who have family buried there, would work with
                      officials to keep the cemetery clean, raise funds to repair monuments where
                      possible and otherwise look after this holy ground where our ancestors lie.
                      Would this not be a great project for the Family history Society of Buchan
                      to undertake?RegardsWilliam Leslie [Non-text portions of this message have
                      been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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                    • Kathy Trevelyan
                      Hello again, he died when he was only 58 and, as far as I know, he was still in post at the time. It was actually 1930 when he died, not 1931 as I mistyped
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                        Hello again,

                        he died when he was only 58 and, as far as I know, he was still in post at the time. It was actually 1930 when he died, not 1931 as I mistyped earlier. It would be really useful to have the Buchan Observer online, but it sounds like a mammoth task! It was in the Peterhead Library microfilm that I found the details of his illness, death and funeral. At the time I didn't think to go back and look for any further information after I found there was no headstone. His son John, who died aged just 13 is also in the same lair - also unmarked. I wonder if there is any centralised archive in London that has Scottish Newspapers on microfilm? I know many English ones are available. I'll try and find out, wish me luck!

                        Thanks
                        Kathy


                        To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: roy.henderson@...: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:19:26 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery




                        I am sure the Buchan Observer would have made mention of any publicsubscription Kathy. I don't think editions from the 1930s are availableonline - some from the last couple of years are. They are available onmicrofilm at the library in Peterhead. It does seem strange that someoneso prominent (then) in the local community does not have any memorial.I believe the FHSB is giving some thought to a project to scan theBuchan Observer using current technology as a precursor to perhapseventually making it available to those outwith the local area - howeverthat is still very much at the embryonic stage just now and has not yeteven been adopted as a formal project as far as I know.Did your grandfather die in-post or following retirement?Regards,Roy________________________________From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Kathy TrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 20:29To: peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Roy,I'm sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the help of a stonemasonwho was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles was survived by hiswife and several children and her family were well off, so it could nothave been lack of funds. I think it's possible that a publicsubscription would have been planned - do you think the Buchan Observerwould mention this ? I will have to come back up and look through thearchives, but goodness knows when I'll be able to get there! I don'tsuppose the Buchan Observer is available online is it? I've googled it,but no luck.Thanks for your thoughts,KathyTo: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :roy.henderson@...<mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate> : Sun, 27 Apr 200820:19:12 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Kathy,Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? Itmight justbe worth checking that the stones on either side do match withthe lairrecords.Secondly, would your grandfather have had local familysurviving him?There's always a slight chance that if there were no localrelativesthen no stone might have been erected.Thirdly, given hisposition, it might have been the intention to fund amemorial from publicsubscription which may never have been concluded.Finally, I would nothave expected a stone to disappear completely fromConstitution St overthe last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rareand any broken stonewould probably have been left in situ albeit notleft standing.Have youany plans to return?Regards,Roy________________________________From:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ]OnBehalf Of kathytrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 19:00To:Peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject> : [Peterhead] Re: St Peter'sCemeteryI went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather'sgrave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and setoff to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to findthat there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because hewas a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer abouthis illness and death and also an account of his funeral which seems tohave been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out whathappened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one when thelottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are kept withdetails of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is hghlyunlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he was Rectorof Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.Thanks,Kathy--- InPeterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ,"pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>wrote:>> I have finally sat down to review the CD from the FamilyHistory > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my greatgrandparents > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. Youwill notice > that this monument is easily readable and in good shapeexcpt for the > Urn missing from the top.> In 1996 two of my Peterheadaunts took me to this cemetery and showed > me this monument. The topstone cover and the urn were lying on the > ground and had obviouslybeen broken off by vandals. One aunt > said,"When I win the Lottery, Iwill egt this fixed." Well, I > thought, does it cost that much that youhave to win a lottery to get > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorialsand got a quote to clean > the stone, redo the lettering and replace thetop and the urn. By the > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.>Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, >pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.> I was in Peterheadin 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On > different days Iwalked all over that cemetery looking for the urn > and picking upgarbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, > etc. but neverfound it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the > backyards nearbyto see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.> When I first thoughtabout repairing this stone, I talked to > officials of the Aberdeenshiregovernment to find out whether they > would repair vandalism damage inthis old and historically valuable > cemetery. It seems that no one hasthis responsibility. They readily > gave me permission to go ahead anddo it, however.I was thankful for > this. In my several visits to StPeter's I was apalled by the amount > of vandalism damage and othersheer neglect that is evident in the > upper and older area of thishistoric site. > Having had much experience in my country with the powerof groups of > ordinary citizens to get things done when officialscannot, I thought > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'SCEMETERY group. This > group, drawn from those of us who have familyburied there, would > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean,raise funds to repair > monuments where possible and otherwise lookafter this holy ground > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be agreat project for the > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?>Regards> William Leslie>===============================CONFIDENTIAL &PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message isprivileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message isintended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are notthe intended recipient,please do not read, copy, use or disclose thiscommunication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying tothis message, and then delete it from your system. 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                      • M La Rooij
                        Hi, Have you tried the Colindale library in London? They have a wdie coverage of British newspapers so presume that will include Scottish. Marion ... From:
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                          Hi,
                          Have you tried the Colindale library in London? They have a wdie coverage of British newspapers so presume that will include Scottish.

                          Marion
                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: Kathy Trevelyan
                          To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:18 AM
                          Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery


                          Hello again,

                          he died when he was only 58 and, as far as I know, he was still in post at the time. It was actually 1930 when he died, not 1931 as I mistyped earlier. It would be really useful to have the Buchan Observer online, but it sounds like a mammoth task! It was in the Peterhead Library microfilm that I found the details of his illness, death and funeral. At the time I didn't think to go back and look for any further information after I found there was no headstone. His son John, who died aged just 13 is also in the same lair - also unmarked. I wonder if there is any centralised archive in London that has Scottish Newspapers on microfilm? I know many English ones are available. I'll try and find out, wish me luck!

                          Thanks
                          Kathy

                          To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: roy.henderson@...: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:19:26 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery

                          I am sure the Buchan Observer would have made mention of any publicsubscription Kathy. I don't think editions from the 1930s are availableonline - some from the last couple of years are. They are available onmicrofilm at the library in Peterhead. It does seem strange that someoneso prominent (then) in the local community does not have any memorial.I believe the FHSB is giving some thought to a project to scan theBuchan Observer using current technology as a precursor to perhapseventually making it available to those outwith the local area - howeverthat is still very much at the embryonic stage just now and has not yeteven been adopted as a formal project as far as I know.Did your grandfather die in-post or following retirement?Regards,Roy________________________________From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Kathy TrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 20:29To: peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Roy,I'm sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the help of a stonemasonwho was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles was survived by hiswife and several children and her family were well off, so it could nothave been lack of funds. I think it's possible that a publicsubscription would have been planned - do you think the Buchan Observerwould mention this ? I will have to come back up and look through thearchives, but goodness knows when I'll be able to get there! I don'tsuppose the Buchan Observer is available online is it? I've googled it,but no luck.Thanks for your thoughts,KathyTo: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :roy.henderson@...<mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate> : Sun, 27 Apr 200820:19:12 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Kathy,Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? Itmight justbe worth checking that the stones on either side do match withthe lairrecords.Secondly, would your grandfather have had local familysurviving him?There's always a slight chance that if there were no localrelativesthen no stone might have been erected.Thirdly, given hisposition, it might have been the intention to fund amemorial from publicsubscription which may never have been concluded.Finally, I would nothave expected a stone to disappear completely fromConstitution St overthe last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rareand any broken stonewould probably have been left in situ albeit notleft standing.Have youany plans to return?Regards,Roy________________________________From:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ]OnBehalf Of kathytrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 19:00To:Peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject> : [Peterhead] Re: St Peter'sCemeteryI went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather'sgrave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and setoff to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to findthat there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because hewas a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer abouthis illness and death and also an account of his funeral which seems tohave been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out whathappened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one when thelottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are kept withdetails of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is hghlyunlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he was Rectorof Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.Thanks,Kathy--- InPeterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ,"pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>wrote:>> I have finally sat down to review the CD from the FamilyHistory > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my greatgrandparents > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. Youwill notice > that this monument is easily readable and in good shapeexcpt for the > Urn missing from the top.> In 1996 two of my Peterheadaunts took me to this cemetery and showed > me this monument. The topstone cover and the urn were lying on the > ground and had obviouslybeen broken off by vandals. One aunt > said,"When I win the Lottery, Iwill egt this fixed." Well, I > thought, does it cost that much that youhave to win a lottery to get > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorialsand got a quote to clean > the stone, redo the lettering and replace thetop and the urn. By the > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.>Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, >pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.> I was in Peterheadin 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On > different days Iwalked all over that cemetery looking for the urn > and picking upgarbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, > etc. but neverfound it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the > backyards nearbyto see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.> When I first thoughtabout repairing this stone, I talked to > officials of the Aberdeenshiregovernment to find out whether they > would repair vandalism damage inthis old and historically valuable > cemetery. It seems that no one hasthis responsibility. They readily > gave me permission to go ahead anddo it, however.I was thankful for > this. In my several visits to StPeter's I was apalled by the amount > of vandalism damage and othersheer neglect that is evident in the > upper and older area of thishistoric site. > Having had much experience in my country with the powerof groups of > ordinary citizens to get things done when officialscannot, I thought > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'SCEMETERY group. This > group, drawn from those of us who have familyburied there, would > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean,raise funds to repair > monuments where possible and otherwise lookafter this holy ground > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be agreat project for the > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?>Regards> William Leslie>===============================CONFIDENTIAL &PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message isprivileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message isintended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are notthe intended recipient,please do not read, copy, use or disclose thiscommunication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying tothis message, and then delete it from your system. 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                        • Henderson, Roy
                          Scanning the Buchan Observer archives would certainly not be a trivial project Kathy! I ve done a few quick calculations based upon some conservative estimates
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                            Scanning the Buchan Observer archives would certainly not be a trivial
                            project Kathy! I've done a few quick calculations based upon some
                            conservative estimates and I'm coming up with 8 years' effort.



                            Throw some volunteer resource at the project to progress it in parallel
                            stages and you could probably bring it down to 3 - 4 years elapsed time.
                            Secure funding to actually recruit resource and it could probably be
                            brought down to a couple of years.



                            That's based upon scanning the original printed version of course.



                            So ... if anyone has a few years to spare and a lot of patience ...



                            :-)





                            From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] On
                            Behalf Of Kathy Trevelyan
                            Sent: 29 April 2008 00:18
                            To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery



                            Hello again,

                            he died when he was only 58 and, as far as I know, he was still in post
                            at the time. It was actually 1930 when he died, not 1931 as I mistyped
                            earlier. It would be really useful to have the Buchan Observer online,
                            but it sounds like a mammoth task! It was in the Peterhead Library
                            microfilm that I found the details of his illness, death and funeral. At
                            the time I didn't think to go back and look for any further information
                            after I found there was no headstone. His son John, who died aged just
                            13 is also in the same lair - also unmarked. I wonder if there is any
                            centralised archive in London that has Scottish Newspapers on microfilm?
                            I know many English ones are available. I'll try and find out, wish me
                            luck!

                            Thanks
                            Kathy

                            To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :
                            roy.henderson@...
                            <mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate> : Mon, 28 Apr 2008
                            11:19:26 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery

                            I am sure the Buchan Observer would have made mention of any
                            publicsubscription Kathy. I don't think editions from the 1930s are
                            availableonline - some from the last couple of years are. They are
                            available onmicrofilm at the library in Peterhead. It does seem strange
                            that someoneso prominent (then) in the local community does not have any
                            memorial.I believe the FHSB is giving some thought to a project to scan
                            theBuchan Observer using current technology as a precursor to
                            perhapseventually making it available to those outwith the local area -
                            howeverthat is still very much at the embryonic stage just now and has
                            not yeteven been adopted as a formal project as far as I know.Did your
                            grandfather die in-post or following
                            retirement?Regards,Roy________________________________From:
                            Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
                            [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ]
                            OnBehalf Of Kathy TrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 20:29To:
                            peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject
                            <mailto:peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject> : RE: [Peterhead] Re: St
                            Peter's CemeteryHi Roy,I'm sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the
                            help of a stonemasonwho was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles
                            was survived by hiswife and several children and her family were well
                            off, so it could nothave been lack of funds. I think it's possible that
                            a publicsubscription would have been planned - do you think the Buchan
                            Observerwould mention this ? I will have to come back up and look
                            through thearchives, but goodness knows when I'll be able to get there!
                            I don'tsuppose the Buchan Observer is available online is it? I've
                            googled it,but no luck.Thanks for your thoughts,KathyTo:
                            Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
                            :roy.henderson@...
                            <mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate>
                            <mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate> : Sun, 27 Apr
                            200820:19:12 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi
                            Kathy,Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? Itmight
                            justbe worth checking that the stones on either side do match withthe
                            lairrecords.Secondly, would your grandfather have had local
                            familysurviving him?There's always a slight chance that if there were no
                            localrelativesthen no stone might have been erected.Thirdly, given
                            hisposition, it might have been the intention to fund amemorial from
                            publicsubscription which may never have been concluded.Finally, I would
                            nothave expected a stone to disappear completely fromConstitution St
                            overthe last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rareand any broken
                            stonewould probably have been left in situ albeit notleft standing.Have
                            youany plans to
                            return?Regards,Roy________________________________From:Peterhead@yahoogr
                            oups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ]OnBehalf Of kathytrevelyanSent: 27
                            April 2008 19:00To:Peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject>
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject> : [Peterhead] Re: St
                            Peter'sCemeteryI went to Peterhead recently and looked for my
                            grandfather'sgrave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair
                            number and setoff to look for the plot. When eventually found it was
                            shocked to findthat there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been
                            one because hewas a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan
                            Observer abouthis illness and death and also an account of his funeral
                            which seems tohave been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find
                            out whathappened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one
                            when thelottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are kept
                            withdetails of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is
                            hghlyunlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he was
                            Rectorof Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.Thanks,Kathy---
                            InPeterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:InPeterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
                            <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>
                            ,"pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>wrote:>> I have finally sat down to
                            review the CD from the FamilyHistory > Society of Buchan. It is a good
                            job. One set of my greatgrandparents > and great grandparents, Rankins,
                            are in Lair E63. Youwill notice > that this monument is easily readable
                            and in good shapeexcpt for the > Urn missing from the top.> In 1996 two
                            of my Peterheadaunts took me to this cemetery and showed > me this
                            monument. The topstone cover and the urn were lying on the > ground and
                            had obviouslybeen broken off by vandals. One aunt > said,"When I win the
                            Lottery, Iwill egt this fixed." Well, I > thought, does it cost that
                            much that youhave to win a lottery to get > it fixed. I contacted
                            Robertson Memorialsand got a quote to clean > the stone, redo the
                            lettering and replace thetop and the urn. By the > time I next saw it,
                            the urn had disappeared.>Many of my family, including newly discovered
                            cousins in Buffalo NY, >pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in
                            2004.> I was in Peterheadin 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job.
                            On > different days Iwalked all over that cemetery looking for the urn >
                            and picking upgarbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, > etc.
                            but neverfound it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the >
                            backyards nearbyto see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.> When
                            I first thoughtabout repairing this stone, I talked to > officials of
                            the Aberdeenshiregovernment to find out whether they > would repair
                            vandalism damage inthis old and historically valuable > cemetery. It
                            seems that no one hasthis responsibility. They readily > gave me
                            permission to go ahead anddo it, however.I was thankful for > this. In
                            my several visits to StPeter's I was apalled by the amount > of
                            vandalism damage and othersheer neglect that is evident in the > upper
                            and older area of thishistoric site. > Having had much experience in my
                            country with the powerof groups of > ordinary citizens to get things
                            done when officialscannot, I thought > that someone should form a
                            FRIENDS OF ST PETER'SCEMETERY group. This > group, drawn from those of
                            us who have familyburied there, would > work with officials to keep the
                            cemetery clean,raise funds to repair > monuments where possible and
                            otherwise lookafter this holy ground > where our ancestors lie. Would
                            this not be agreat project for the > Family history Society of Buchan to
                            undertake?>Regards> William
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                          • Anne Allan
                            I have been following this thread with interest. It is perhaps something that the FHSB could look at organising. We can discuss it at our next committee
                            Message 13 of 17 , Apr 29, 2008
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                              I have been following this thread with interest. It is perhaps something
                              that the FHSB could look at organising. We can discuss it at our next
                              committee meeting. It would be valuable to know how many people on this
                              list would be interesting in joining such a group, and whether they
                              would be available to help if a date was set to do a tidy up as suggested..

                              Anne
                            • Kathy Trevelyan
                              Marion, thank you! I have just looked at the Colindale website and they do indeed have the Buchan Observer! I m going to try and get there in the next couple
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                                Marion, thank you! I have just looked at the Colindale website and they do indeed have the Buchan Observer! I'm going to try and get there in the next couple of weeks.
                                Thanks again,
                                Kathy


                                To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: mlarooij@...: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:45:27 +1200Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery




                                Hi,Have you tried the Colindale library in London? They have a wdie coverage of British newspapers so presume that will include Scottish.Marion----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Trevelyan To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:18 AMSubject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHello again,he died when he was only 58 and, as far as I know, he was still in post at the time. It was actually 1930 when he died, not 1931 as I mistyped earlier. It would be really useful to have the Buchan Observer online, but it sounds like a mammoth task! It was in the Peterhead Library microfilm that I found the details of his illness, death and funeral. At the time I didn't think to go back and look for any further information after I found there was no headstone. His son John, who died aged just 13 is also in the same lair - also unmarked. I wonder if there is any centralised archive in London that has Scottish Newspapers on microfilm? I know many English ones are available. I'll try and find out, wish me luck!Thanks KathyTo: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: roy.henderson@...: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:19:26 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryI am sure the Buchan Observer would have made mention of any publicsubscription Kathy. I don't think editions from the 1930s are availableonline - some from the last couple of years are. They are available onmicrofilm at the library in Peterhead. It does seem strange that someoneso prominent (then) in the local community does not have any memorial.I believe the FHSB is giving some thought to a project to scan theBuchan Observer using current technology as a precursor to perhapseventually making it available to those outwith the local area - howeverthat is still very much at the embryonic stage just now and has not yeteven been adopted as a formal project as far as I know.Did your grandfather die in-post or following retirement?Regards,Roy________________________________From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Kathy TrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 20:29To: peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Roy,I'm sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the help of a stonemasonwho was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles was survived by hiswife and several children and her family were well off, so it could nothave been lack of funds. I think it's possible that a publicsubscription would have been planned - do you think the Buchan Observerwould mention this ? I will have to come back up and look through thearchives, but goodness knows when I'll be able to get there! I don'tsuppose the Buchan Observer is available online is it? I've googled it,but no luck.Thanks for your thoughts,KathyTo: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :roy.henderson@...<mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate> : Sun, 27 Apr 200820:19:12 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Kathy,Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? Itmight justbe worth checking that the stones on either side do match withthe lairrecords.Secondly, would your grandfather have had local familysurviving him?There's always a slight chance that if there were no localrelativesthen no stone might have been erected.Thirdly, given hisposition, it might have been the intention to fund amemorial from publicsubscription which may never have been concluded.Finally, I would nothave expected a stone to disappear completely fromConstitution St overthe last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rareand any broken stonewould probably have been left in situ albeit notleft standing.Have youany plans to return?Regards,Roy________________________________From:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ]OnBehalf Of kathytrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 19:00To:Peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject> : [Peterhead] Re: St Peter'sCemeteryI went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather'sgrave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and setoff to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to findthat there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because hewas a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer abouthis illness and death and also an account of his funeral which seems tohave been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out whathappened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one when thelottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are kept withdetails of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is hghlyunlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he was Rectorof Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.Thanks,Kathy--- InPeterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ,"pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>wrote:>> I have finally sat down to review the CD from the FamilyHistory > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my greatgrandparents > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. Youwill notice > that this monument is easily readable and in good shapeexcpt for the > Urn missing from the top.> In 1996 two of my Peterheadaunts took me to this cemetery and showed > me this monument. The topstone cover and the urn were lying on the > ground and had obviouslybeen broken off by vandals. One aunt > said,"When I win the Lottery, Iwill egt this fixed." Well, I > thought, does it cost that much that youhave to win a lottery to get > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorialsand got a quote to clean > the stone, redo the lettering and replace thetop and the urn. By the > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.>Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, >pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.> I was in Peterheadin 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On > different days Iwalked all over that cemetery looking for the urn > and picking upgarbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, > etc. but neverfound it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the > backyards nearbyto see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.> When I first thoughtabout repairing this stone, I talked to > officials of the Aberdeenshiregovernment to find out whether they > would repair vandalism damage inthis old and historically valuable > cemetery. It seems that no one hasthis responsibility. They readily > gave me permission to go ahead anddo it, however.I was thankful for > this. In my several visits to StPeter's I was apalled by the amount > of vandalism damage and othersheer neglect that is evident in the > upper and older area of thishistoric site. > Having had much experience in my country with the powerof groups of > ordinary citizens to get things done when officialscannot, I thought > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'SCEMETERY group. This > group, drawn from those of us who have familyburied there, would > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean,raise funds to repair > monuments where possible and otherwise lookafter this holy ground > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be agreat project for the > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?>Regards> William Leslie>===============================CONFIDENTIAL &PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message isprivileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message isintended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are notthe intended recipient,please do not read, copy, use or disclose thiscommunication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying tothis message, and then delete it from your system. 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                              • M La Rooij
                                Great! It s so long since I thought of them I forgot they might have a website!! Marion ... From: Kathy Trevelyan To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com Sent:
                                Message 15 of 17 , Apr 29, 2008
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                                  Great! It's so long since I thought of them I forgot they might have a website!!

                                  Marion
                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  From: Kathy Trevelyan
                                  To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:31 AM
                                  Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery


                                  Marion, thank you! I have just looked at the Colindale website and they do indeed have the Buchan Observer! I'm going to try and get there in the next couple of weeks.
                                  Thanks again,
                                  Kathy

                                  To: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: mlarooij@...: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:45:27 +1200Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's Cemetery

                                  Hi,Have you tried the Colindale library in London? They have a wdie coverage of British newspapers so presume that will include Scottish.Marion----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Trevelyan To: peterhead@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:18 AMSubject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHello again,he died when he was only 58 and, as far as I know, he was still in post at the time. It was actually 1930 when he died, not 1931 as I mistyped earlier. It would be really useful to have the Buchan Observer online, but it sounds like a mammoth task! It was in the Peterhead Library microfilm that I found the details of his illness, death and funeral. At the time I didn't think to go back and look for any further information after I found there was no headstone. His son John, who died aged just 13 is also in the same lair - also unmarked. I wonder if there is any centralised archive in London that has Scottish Newspapers on microfilm? I know many English ones are available. I'll try and find out, wish me luck!Thanks KathyTo: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom: roy.henderson@...: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:19:26 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryI am sure the Buchan Observer would have made mention of any publicsubscription Kathy. I don't think editions from the 1930s are availableonline - some from the last couple of years are. They are available onmicrofilm at the library in Peterhead. It does seem strange that someoneso prominent (then) in the local community does not have any memorial.I believe the FHSB is giving some thought to a project to scan theBuchan Observer using current technology as a precursor to perhapseventually making it available to those outwith the local area - howeverthat is still very much at the embryonic stage just now and has not yeteven been adopted as a formal project as far as I know.Did your grandfather die in-post or following retirement?Regards,Roy________________________________From: Peterhead@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of Kathy TrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 20:29To: peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Roy,I'm sure I found the right lair as I enlisted the help of a stonemasonwho was carving a headstone in the cemetery! Charles was survived by hiswife and several children and her family were well off, so it could nothave been lack of funds. I think it's possible that a publicsubscription would have been planned - do you think the Buchan Observerwould mention this ? I will have to come back up and look through thearchives, but goodness knows when I'll be able to get there! I don'tsuppose the Buchan Observer is available online is it? I've googled it,but no luck.Thanks for your thoughts,KathyTo: Peterhead@yahoogroups.comFrom<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comFrom> :roy.henderson@...<mailto:roy.henderson%40eu.weatherford.comDate> : Sun, 27 Apr 200820:19:12 +0100Subject: RE: [Peterhead] Re: St Peter's CemeteryHi Kathy,Firstly, are you CERTAIN you found the correct location? Itmight justbe worth checking that the stones on either side do match withthe lairrecords.Secondly, would your grandfather have had local familysurviving him?There's always a slight chance that if there were no localrelativesthen no stone might have been erected.Thirdly, given hisposition, it might have been the intention to fund amemorial from publicsubscription which may never have been concluded.Finally, I would nothave expected a stone to disappear completely fromConstitution St overthe last 80 years. Damage in that cemetery is rareand any broken stonewould probably have been left in situ albeit notleft standing.Have youany plans to return?Regards,Roy________________________________From:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:Peterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ]OnBehalf Of kathytrevelyanSent: 27 April 2008 19:00To:Peterhead@yahoogroups.comSubject<mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.comSubject> : [Peterhead] Re: St Peter'sCemeteryI went to Peterhead recently and looked for my grandfather'sgrave in the Constitution Street cemetary. I got the lair number and setoff to look for the plot. When eventually found it was shocked to findthat there was no stone. I'm sure there must have been one because hewas a well known person- I found articles in the Buchan Observer abouthis illness and death and also an account of his funeral which seems tohave been attended by most of the town. I'd like to find out whathappened to the stone, and I would also like to get a new one when thelottery win comes along. Does anyone know if records are kept withdetails of headstones or of damage to them - I know this is hghlyunlkely! My grandfather's name was Charles Duncan Rice and he was Rectorof Peterhead Academy. He died in 1931.Thanks,Kathy--- InPeterhead@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Peterhead%40yahoogroups.com> ,"pleslie23" <william.leslie@...>wrote:>> I have finally sat down to review the CD from the FamilyHistory > Society of Buchan. It is a good job. One set of my greatgrandparents > and great grandparents, Rankins, are in Lair E63. Youwill notice > that this monument is easily readable and in good shapeexcpt for the > Urn missing from the top.> In 1996 two of my Peterheadaunts took me to this cemetery and showed > me this monument. The topstone cover and the urn were lying on the > ground and had obviouslybeen broken off by vandals. One aunt > said,"When I win the Lottery, Iwill egt this fixed." Well, I > thought, does it cost that much that youhave to win a lottery to get > it fixed. I contacted Robertson Memorialsand got a quote to clean > the stone, redo the lettering and replace thetop and the urn. By the > time I next saw it, the urn had disappeared.>Many of my family, including newly discovered cousins in Buffalo NY, >pitched in and robertsons did the repairs in 2004.> I was in Peterheadin 2005 and visited st Peter's to see the job. On > different days Iwalked all over that cemetery looking for the urn > and picking upgarbage, chip bags, drink cans cigarette packages, > etc. but neverfound it. I did have an idea to go looking in all the > backyards nearbyto see if I could see it but abandonned that idea.> When I first thoughtabout repairing this stone, I talked to > officials of the Aberdeenshiregovernment to find out whether they > would repair vandalism damage inthis old and historically valuable > cemetery. It seems that no one hasthis responsibility. They readily > gave me permission to go ahead anddo it, however.I was thankful for > this. In my several visits to StPeter's I was apalled by the amount > of vandalism damage and othersheer neglect that is evident in the > upper and older area of thishistoric site. > Having had much experience in my country with the powerof groups of > ordinary citizens to get things done when officialscannot, I thought > that someone should form a FRIENDS OF ST PETER'SCEMETERY group. This > group, drawn from those of us who have familyburied there, would > work with officials to keep the cemetery clean,raise funds to repair > monuments where possible and otherwise lookafter this holy ground > where our ancestors lie. Would this not be agreat project for the > Family history Society of Buchan to undertake?>Regards> William Leslie>===============================CONFIDENTIAL &PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION The information contained in this message isprivileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. This message isintended for the individual or entity addressed herein. If you are notthe intended recipient,please do not read, copy, use or disclose thiscommunication to others. Also please notify the sender by replying tothis message, and then delete it from your system. 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                                • Hazel Holt
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                                    I would be interested in helping with a tidy up.

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