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  • William Leslie
    Wade; As you look through the various censuses, don t forget that I am still searching for more information on my great great grandfather James Leslie (1827 to
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 17, 2000
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      Wade;
      As you look through the various censuses, don't forget
      that I am still searching for more information on my
      great great grandfather James Leslie (1827 to 1857)
      and my great great great grandfather John Leslie born
      approximately 1800, both Crofters of Longside, but with
      many family connections in Peterhead.
      Regards
      William

      Peterhead@egroups.com wrote:

      >
      > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >
      > There are 5 messages in this issue.
      >
      > Topics in this digest:
      >
      > 1. Re: 1851 Census
      > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
      > 2. OPR Extracts
      > From: "Linda Adam" <taadam@...>
      > 3. Re: Re: Marriages in Peterhead 1807
      > From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
      > 4. OPR Extracts
      > From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
      > 5. 1891 census
      > From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 1
      > Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 01:55:52 +1000
      > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
      > Subject: Re: 1851 Census
      >
      > Hi Alex,
      >
      > Alex Ritchie wrote:
      >
      > > Wade, can I impose upon you for information from the 1851 Census ?
      > >
      > > I'm looking for a John Mitchell (I would guess his age to be around
      > > 50)
      > > His wife was a Margaret Mitchell (nee Margaret Forbes Symmers)
      > >
      > > Don't know if you have access to 1841 Census but, if you do, can you
      > > look there as well ?
      >
      > Sorry didn't find any that was close in Peterhead. Only found a
      > Margaret Mitchell, age 46, born Longside, but unmarried.
      >
      > I don't have access to the 1841 census at home yet. I will not be going
      > into the city for awhile, but I will keep an eye out next time I have
      > look at the 1841 census.
      >
      > Regards, Wade.
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 2
      > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:00:01 -0000
      > From: "Linda Adam" <taadam@...>
      > Subject: OPR Extracts
      >
      > Would there be a list member familiar with information received from
      > OPR Births and Baptisms and Marriage Extracts?
      > I had ordered and received extracts and was a bit disapointed that
      > both parents were not named on either the Baptism or Marriage record.
      >
      > The marriage extract showed the date of marriage (April 06 1843),
      > grooms name (Alexander Birnie)and occupation (Cooper) and name of
      > spouse (Elizabeth McKisseck).
      >
      > The Baptism for the above Alexander gave me the following:
      > Birnie , Alexander , 1815 - April 22nd - Alexander Birnie, Wright, in
      > Peterhead had a son born - baptised and named Alexander, before
      > William Abernethy and William Birnie.
      >
      > Is their a possibility that more information can be located from an
      > actual certificate or is this the best I can hope for?
      >
      > Can someone tell me what the occupation "wright" would be and also
      > what relationships witnesses at a baptism would be to the child?
      > Uncles/Grandparents or just friends?
      >
      > I am still at the brick wall for ancestors of Alexander Birnie and
      > Elizabeth McKisseck! Too many Alexander Birnie's!
      >
      > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
      > Linda Adam (Ontario)
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 3
      > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:36:50 -0700
      > From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
      > Subject: Re: Re: Marriages in Peterhead 1807
      >
      > For T.Gray:
      >
      > Hi here it is:
      >
      > Extract from the Register of Proclamations of Banns and Marriages 1807
      >
      > Parish of Peterhead County of Aberdeen
      >
      > 7th May John HILL/MILL, Merchant, and Margaret GRAY, both in Peterhead.
      >
      > On closer inspection it looks like HILL but I thought I should say that its
      > not crystal clear.
      >
      > Hope this helps
      > Joanne
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 4
      > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:15 +0100
      > From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
      > Subject: OPR Extracts
      >
      > For Linda Adam
      >
      > Hi Linda,
      > I'm afraid that that is probably the only information on the OPRs. OPRs are notorious for varying widely from Parish to Parish and it depended upon the local Minister as to what information he recorded. I know it can be extremely disappointing at times. I have seen extracts from South Leith Parish which gave quite a lot of marriage detail (e.g. the addresses of the bride & groom and the groom's occupation) but, in my experience, this is the exception rather than the rule.
      > You won't really get any more information by looking at the original OPR.
      >
      > A "wright" would be a tradesman (like a joiner). Wrights usually specialised to some extend. For example a Cart wright,
      > a Wheel wright, a Ship wright, an Ark wright (chest maker).
      >
      > Witnesses at Baptism could be any of the folks you mention. Sometimes Grandparents, Parents, Relatives or friends. I would say usually a relative though.
      >
      > I have some Birnie information (Sea-farers). Probably not the line you are researching, but it might help you to eliminate some from your enquiries. Let me know.
      >
      > Best Regards
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 5
      > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:01:03 -0300
      > From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
      > Subject: 1891 census
      >
      > Does anyone have easy access to the 1891 census of Peterhead?
      > I am looking for an Anderson Family.
      > Father George in 1881 age 44 b.Old Deer[mother was a Diverall]
      > mother Andrina " age 47 b.Shetland
      > 3 sons
      > George " 18 b.Shetland
      > James " 16 b.Lonmay
      > William " 14 b.Lonmay
      > In 1881 they were at 5 Lilly Terrace Peterhead.
      > Betty.
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
    • I Tilbury
      From Lynley Tilbury Reading the below William is looking for a James Leslie I have taken all the Leslie men of the LDS on internet And found that there was a
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 25, 2000
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        From Lynley Tilbury
        Reading the below William is looking for a James Leslie
        I have taken all the Leslie men of the LDS on internet
        And found that there was a James Leslie [father] who had a John [c]
        8/11/1688 Forgue Aberdeen
        There was a John Lesly [father] who had a john [c] 7/3/1689 Monquhittter
        Aberdeen
        There is a James Lesly [father who had a John [c] 21/9/1693 Fyvie Aberdeen
        Good Luck
        ----------------------

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: William Leslie <gripfast@...>
        To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
        Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 4:01 AM
        Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Digest Number 428


        > Wade;
        > As you look through the various censuses, don't forget
        > that I am still searching for more information on my
        > great great grandfather James Leslie (1827 to 1857)
        > and my great great great grandfather John Leslie born
        > approximately 1800, both Crofters of Longside, but with
        > many family connections in Peterhead.
        > Regards
        > William
        >
        > Peterhead@egroups.com wrote:
        >
        > >
        > > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
        > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        > >
        > > There are 5 messages in this issue.
        > >
        > > Topics in this digest:
        > >
        > > 1. Re: 1851 Census
        > > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
        > > 2. OPR Extracts
        > > From: "Linda Adam" <taadam@...>
        > > 3. Re: Re: Marriages in Peterhead 1807
        > > From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
        > > 4. OPR Extracts
        > > From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
        > > 5. 1891 census
        > > From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 1
        > > Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 01:55:52 +1000
        > > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
        > > Subject: Re: 1851 Census
        > >
        > > Hi Alex,
        > >
        > > Alex Ritchie wrote:
        > >
        > > > Wade, can I impose upon you for information from the 1851 Census ?
        > > >
        > > > I'm looking for a John Mitchell (I would guess his age to be around
        > > > 50)
        > > > His wife was a Margaret Mitchell (nee Margaret Forbes Symmers)
        > > >
        > > > Don't know if you have access to 1841 Census but, if you do, can you
        > > > look there as well ?
        > >
        > > Sorry didn't find any that was close in Peterhead. Only found a
        > > Margaret Mitchell, age 46, born Longside, but unmarried.
        > >
        > > I don't have access to the 1841 census at home yet. I will not be going
        > > into the city for awhile, but I will keep an eye out next time I have
        > > look at the 1841 census.
        > >
        > > Regards, Wade.
        > >
        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 2
        > > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:00:01 -0000
        > > From: "Linda Adam" <taadam@...>
        > > Subject: OPR Extracts
        > >
        > > Would there be a list member familiar with information received from
        > > OPR Births and Baptisms and Marriage Extracts?
        > > I had ordered and received extracts and was a bit disapointed that
        > > both parents were not named on either the Baptism or Marriage record.
        > >
        > > The marriage extract showed the date of marriage (April 06 1843),
        > > grooms name (Alexander Birnie)and occupation (Cooper) and name of
        > > spouse (Elizabeth McKisseck).
        > >
        > > The Baptism for the above Alexander gave me the following:
        > > Birnie , Alexander , 1815 - April 22nd - Alexander Birnie, Wright, in
        > > Peterhead had a son born - baptised and named Alexander, before
        > > William Abernethy and William Birnie.
        > >
        > > Is their a possibility that more information can be located from an
        > > actual certificate or is this the best I can hope for?
        > >
        > > Can someone tell me what the occupation "wright" would be and also
        > > what relationships witnesses at a baptism would be to the child?
        > > Uncles/Grandparents or just friends?
        > >
        > > I am still at the brick wall for ancestors of Alexander Birnie and
        > > Elizabeth McKisseck! Too many Alexander Birnie's!
        > >
        > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
        > > Linda Adam (Ontario)
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 3
        > > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:36:50 -0700
        > > From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
        > > Subject: Re: Re: Marriages in Peterhead 1807
        > >
        > > For T.Gray:
        > >
        > > Hi here it is:
        > >
        > > Extract from the Register of Proclamations of Banns and Marriages 1807
        > >
        > > Parish of Peterhead County of Aberdeen
        > >
        > > 7th May John HILL/MILL, Merchant, and Margaret GRAY, both in
        Peterhead.
        > >
        > > On closer inspection it looks like HILL but I thought I should say that
        its
        > > not crystal clear.
        > >
        > > Hope this helps
        > > Joanne
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 4
        > > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:42:15 +0100
        > > From: "Alex Ritchie" <alex@...>
        > > Subject: OPR Extracts
        > >
        > > For Linda Adam
        > >
        > > Hi Linda,
        > > I'm afraid that that is probably the only information on
        the OPRs. OPRs are notorious for varying widely from Parish to Parish and it
        depended upon the local Minister as to what information he recorded. I know
        it can be extremely disappointing at times. I have seen extracts from South
        Leith Parish which gave quite a lot of marriage detail (e.g. the addresses
        of the bride & groom and the groom's occupation) but, in my experience, this
        is the exception rather than the rule.
        > > You won't really get any more information by looking at
        the original OPR.
        > >
        > > A "wright" would be a tradesman (like a joiner). Wrights
        usually specialised to some extend. For example a Cart wright,
        > > a Wheel wright, a Ship wright, an Ark wright (chest maker).
        > >
        > > Witnesses at Baptism could be any of the folks you
        mention. Sometimes Grandparents, Parents, Relatives or friends. I would say
        usually a relative though.
        > >
        > > I have some Birnie information (Sea-farers). Probably
        not the line you are researching, but it might help you to eliminate some
        from your enquiries. Let me know.
        > >
        > > Best Regards
        > >
        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 5
        > > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:01:03 -0300
        > > From: "Dr. Elizabeth B. Holmes" <bede@...>
        > > Subject: 1891 census
        > >
        > > Does anyone have easy access to the 1891 census of Peterhead?
        > > I am looking for an Anderson Family.
        > > Father George in 1881 age 44 b.Old Deer[mother was a Diverall]
        > > mother Andrina " age 47 b.Shetland
        > > 3 sons
        > > George " 18 b.Shetland
        > > James " 16 b.Lonmay
        > > William " 14 b.Lonmay
        > > In 1881 they were at 5 Lilly Terrace Peterhead.
        > > Betty.
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        >
        >
        >
        > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
        >
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