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  • I Tilbury
    ... From: Linda Adam To: Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Digest Number 405 ...
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      From: Linda Adam <taadam@...>
      To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 2:56 PM
      Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Digest Number 405


      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Dear William;
      >
      > I too am frustrated at the lack of information available to make a
      > concrete family connection. I would be interested in receiving the Lair
      > information that you have for the Walker side. My family surname is
      > Birnie but there is a strong connection to Walker. Certainly we must all
      > be connected in some way, or so it should seem!
      >
      > Regards,
      > Linda Adam
      > ATTN. Linda Adam
      > I wonder if you remember that you contacted me about the Birnie Children
      in the grave with the Kean Family
      > How are you get on , lets know I also have the leslie name on my family
      tree Joseph Kean married
      > Ann J. Leslie in Peterhead , They had a son born 6th August 1868 named
      John Ironside Kean
      > And a daughter born 30 may 1870 named Helen Scott Kean
      > Now did you know the last e mail i had from you had a attachment but when
      we looked there was nothing there
      > Regards Lynley Tilbury
      > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
      >
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      ... From: William Leslie To: Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Digest Number 405
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        From: William Leslie <gripfast@...>
        To: <Peterhead@egroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:48 AM
        Subject: Re: [Peterhead] Digest Number 405


        >
        > Hello Wade and All;
        > I tried to see if there were any links between the Leslies shown in your
        very
        > complete report, and my Leslie family. No such luck. It is amazing that
        in a small
        > town, in the 1700's and 1800's, there could be more than one Leslie family
        with no
        > direct links. I am still searching for my gg grandfather John Leslie,
        from
        > longside, born about 1800. I was cheered when I saw the Robert Leslie you
        listed,
        > but he does not fit. I think that my ggg grandfather and ggg grandmother
        were
        > Robert Leslie (Crofter) and Mary Strachan from Longside. They had a son
        John, but I
        > can't find anything to link to my John, although he dates fit.
        > I have a photograph of the gravestone of Alexander Leslie and Ann Jack,
        taken in the
        > old cemetery in Peterhead. Their grave is right next to that of my
        grandfather
        > James Rankin and my grandmother Janet Walker. If anyone wants it, I can
        e-mail a
        > copy.
        > Regards
        > William Leslie
        > ATT. William Leslie
        > I have also got a LESLIE in my Kean Family tree ANN J. LESLIE married
        JOSEPH KEAN 13/10/1863
        > They had two children John Ironside Kean born 6th of August 1868 at
        Peterhead
        >And Helen Scott Kean born 30th May 1870
        < This Ann J Leslie parents are Alexander Leslie and Mary Leslie [ ms LEASK]
        < Witnesses at this marriage are William Leslie and John H. Leslie
        <While looking at the LDS. ON LINE in case you dont know iswww.
        familysearch.org
        > I found this Ann Jack Leslie [c] 27/12/1835 Peterhead
        > Ann Jack [m] Alexander Leslie 29/11/1818 Peterhead
        .> Mary Leask [m] Alexander Lesly 14/2/1828
        > William Leslie [c] 26th August 1772 Episcopal Peterhead[ father Robert
        > William Ironside Leslie [c] 9/12/1842 Premay ABERDEEN [ father James
        mother Helen Ironside
        > Yet another William Leslie with the same parents born 2nd August 1859
        >.> Hope this might lead to somewhere
        Lynley Tilbury
        i.l.tilbury@...


        > Peterhead@egroups.com wrote:
        >
        > >
        > > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
        > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        > >
        > > There are 4 messages in this issue.
        > >
        > > Topics in this digest:
        > >
        > > 1. Re: Carnegie/Leslie
        > > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
        > > 2. Re: Missing from census?
        > > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
        > > 3. Re: Missing from census?
        > > From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
        > > 4. Re: James Strachan & Amelia Gordon
        > > From: Sam Daniel <samdaniel@...>
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 1
        > > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:07:26 +1000
        > > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
        > > Subject: Re: Carnegie/Leslie
        > >
        > > Hi Kevin,
        > >
        > > cindy carnegie wrote:
        > >
        > > > Robert CARNEGIE(shipbuilder,peterhead) married 05 Nov 1855 Ann LESLIE
        born
        > > > 1826 Peterhead, parents Alex Leslie and Ann Jack, brother William.
        > > >
        > > > William Leslie CARNEGIE born 20 Aug 1861 married 1892 peterhead,
        Elizabeth
        > > > BIRNIE, born 20 Oct 1860. parents Capt. Charles Birnie, Elizabeth
        Martin.
        > > >
        > > > On the Peterhead website there is a lair index (c247) with my
        > > > gggrandparents, and also a Margaret, i was wondering if i could obtain
        more
        > > > info from that source. Is there any records available that would have
        info
        > > > about shipcarpenters or shipbuilders from peterhead?
        > > > And finally, is there anyone from the area who does cemetery
        searches?
        > >
        > > Peterhead Marriages
        > > No.44, 8/11/1855 Peterhead, Robert Carnegie, age 28, ship-carpenter,
        bachelor,
        > > born Old Machar 1827, parents: Alexander Carnegie, farmer and Elizabeth
        > > Webster; married Ann Leslie, age 29, spinster, born Peterhead 1826,
        parents:
        > > Alexander Leslie, weaver and Ann Jack, witnesses Charles Carnegie and
        William
        > > Leslie.
        > >
        > > No.45, 22/12/1859 33 Marischal Street, Free Church, David Carnegie, 33,
        > > Peterhead, Shipmaster, bachelor, parents: Alexander Carnegie, farmer and
        > > Elizabeth Carnegie ms Webster (dead) married Barbara Lillie, 19,
        Peterhead,
        > > spinster, parents: William Lillie, cabinet maker and Jane Lillie ms
        Sellar,
        > > witnesses: Charles Carnegie and William Leslie.
        > >
        > > Peterhead Deaths
        > > No.57, Alexander Leslie, weaver (married), died 11/5/1857 2h am at 13
        Windmill
        > > Street, male, 87 years, parents: Robert Leslie, crofter (deceased) and
        Margaret
        > > Leslie nee Dick (deceased), cause: dropsy, had for upwards of a year,
        informant:
        > > William Leslie, son, present.
        > >
        > > No.14, Margaret Jack, single, 21/1/1861 9h am at 7 Threadneedle Street,
        female,
        > > 81 years, parents: William Jack, weaver (dead) and Isabella Jack ms
        Hutton
        > > (dead), cause: natural decay paralysis, informant: W. Robertson, nephew,
        > > present, occupier.
        > >
        > > No.6, Elizabeth Ann Carnegie, single, 24/1/1862 3h 20m pm at 13/2
        Windmill
        > > Street, female, 3 years, parents: Robert Carnegie, shipbuilder and Ann
        Carnegie
        > > ms Leslie, cause: Aruchnitis? (scarlatina sequela), a week, informant:
        Robt.
        > > Carnegie, father, present.
        > >
        > > No.69, Isabella Jack, single, 11/4/1864 8 h pm at 70/3/ Kirk Street,
        female, 82
        > > years, William Jack, weaver (dead) and Isabella Jack ms Hutton (dead),
        > > informant: Wm. Robertson, nephew, present, 7/3 Treadneedle Street.
        > >
        > > No.154, Ann Leslie married to Alexander Leslie weaver, 22/10/1865 11h am
        at 13
        > > Windmill Street, female, parents William Jack, weaver (dead) and
        Isabella Jack
        > > ms Hutton (dead), cause: a) varicose tumour (about 8 months) b) pyemia?
        a
        > > fortnight, informant: William Leslie, son, present, occupier.
        > >
        > > No.42, Charles Carnegie, single, 16/2/1867 7h 20m pm at 13/1 Windmill
        Street,
        > > male 3 years, parents: Robert Carnegie and Ann Carnegie ms Leslie,
        cause:
        > > enteric fever, about three weeks, informant: Robt. Carnegie, father,
        present.
        > >
        > > No.142, John Leslie Carnegie, single, 5/10/1868, 2h 15m am at Windmill
        Street,
        > > male, 1 month, parents: Robert Carnegie, shipbuilder and Ann Carnegie ms
        Leslie,
        > > cause: unknown, no medical attendant, informant: Rob. Carnegie, father,
        present.
        > >
        > > 1851 Peterhead Census
        > > District 1, page 7, No.11, Union Street,
        > > Alex Leslie, head, mar, 80, weaver, Peterhead
        > > Ann Leslie, wife, mar, 65, Peterhead
        > > William Leslie, son, unmar, 30, cooper, Peterhead
        > > Robert Carnigie, lodger, unmar, 24, Ship Carpenter, Old Machar
        > > John Flett, lodger, unmar, 19, Ship Carpenter, Orkney
        > > Duncan Forbes, lodger, unmar, 18, Grocer, Cruden
        > >
        > > Dristrict 5, page 23, No.102, 43 Threadneedle Street
        > > William Robertson, head, Widower, 45, Wright, Peterhead
        > > Margaret Robertson, daughter, unmar, 9, scholar, Peterhead
        > > Margaret Jack, aunt, unmar, 71, housekeeper, Peterhead
        > >
        > > District 13, page 6, No.25, 13 Kirk Street
        > > William Jack, head, 62, Peterhead
        > > Isabella Jack, sister, 68, Peterhead
        > >
        > > District 18, page 8, No.31, Whitehills
        > > Ann Leslie, servant, 24, Peterhead
        > >
        > > Old Kirkyard, Lair C247, Robert Carnegie, Shipbuilder
        > > 12/7/1809, Wm Jack, age 69
        > > 31/8/1829, Isa Hutton, 84
        > > 5/12/1851, Wm Jack, 63
        > > 14/4/1864, Isa Jack, 82
        > > 22/2/1902, Ann L. Carnegie, 75
        > > 19/8/1911 Robert Carnegie, 84
        > > 16/1/1954 Margaret Jean Carnegie, 86
        > >
        > > Perhaps someone on the list could look and let you know the inscription
        on the
        > > headstone when they visit Peterhead.
        > >
        > > Hope this helps.
        > >
        > > Regards, Wade.
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 2
        > > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:37:30 +1000
        > > From: Wade Buchan <wsb@...>
        > > Subject: Re: Missing from census?
        > >
        > > Hi Joanne,
        > >
        > > Joanne Pye wrote:
        > >
        > > > Hoping you may be able to offer an answer to my question. Recently I
        > > > received a link via a list, for the website
        > > > http://www.ancestralfindings.com, which is offering free lookups of
        > > > the 1851 census of the UK. I have just received my lookup, but it is
        > > > not the person I'm looking for.
        > > > I was hoping to find Andrew KINLOCH m to Janet WATSON. I know that
        > > > they died during 1859 and 1856 in Peterhead, Aberdeen, as this was the
        > > > info that Wade kindly sent me. They were both quite old when they
        > > > died, aged 92 and 87 years. However, the return for Andrew was for a
        > > > 44 year old man. I was informed by the person who did the lookup that
        > > > this was the only Andrew KINLOCH listed. Whilst I realise that this
        > > > man could be a relative of my Andrew, it is clear that he is not the
        > > > man I'm looking for. I would be very interested to know if there could
        > > > be an explanation as to why my ancestor was not listed, or if it was
        > > > likely to just be a mistake.
        > >
        > > I didn't find Andrew or Janet in the 1851 census for Peterhead.
        > >
        > > As far as I know, the 1851 census for parishes in Aberdeenshire have not
        > > been indexed. Some parishes have been indexed by individuals, but I
        > > don't think any have been published yet either.
        > >
        > > Therefore I would be surprised if someone who was offering free searches
        > > of the 1851 census have actually checked all the parishes in
        > > Aberdeenshire for you. Your Kinloch could be living in the neighbouring
        > > parish at the time.
        > >
        > > Regards, Wade.
        > >
        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 3
        > > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:00:59 -0700
        > > From: "Joanne Pye" <joanne@...>
        > > Subject: Re: Missing from census?
        > >
        > > Hi Wade,
        > >
        > > Thanks for your response! That would explain why they don't seem to be
        > > there, thanks again.
        > >
        > > I was wondering though, in the information you very kindly gave me
        regarding
        > > my KINLOCH's deaths, did they state any place of birth, or will that
        only
        > > appear on the certificates?
        > >
        > > I have ordered the marriage cert for Andrew KINLOCH and hope that will
        give
        > > me a clue as to where his was from. I think Janet WATSON was from
        Glasgow.
        > >
        > > Thanks once again Wade, it is much appreciated.
        > > Joanne
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > >
        > > Message: 4
        > > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:38:08 +0100
        > > From: Sam Daniel <samdaniel@...>
        > > Subject: Re: James Strachan & Amelia Gordon
        > >
        > > Great news! I will accept the details with an abundance of thanks,
        > >
        > > Thanks,
        > >
        > > Sam
        > >
        > > In message <000d01c0183c$d41193c0$08428cd4@pbncomputer>, Alison Anderson
        > > <A.M.Anderson@...> writes
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >In February of this year Wade sent marriage details for a James
        Strachan &
        > > >Amelia (Emily) Gordon to the Peterhead list, along with the death
        details of
        > > >some of their family, for a Sam Daniel. If Sam Daniel is still a
        member of the
        > > >list and is interested (or anyone else) I have the lair details for
        Lair No. C
        > > >301, Peterhead Old Kirkyard, where children Helen Ann Strachan, John
        Gordon
        > > >Strachan, and Margaret Hill Strachan are interred and will gladly send
        them to
        > > >the Peterhead list if they don't already have the information.
        > > >
        > > >Alison
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
        > > >
        > >
        > > --
        > > Sam Daniel
        > >
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        > > ________________________________________________________________________
        >
        >
        > Peterhead Genealogy at http://axs.com.au/~wsb/
        >
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