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  • Gracie Grant
    hello all i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month
    Message 1 of 19 , Jan 9, 2013
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      hello all
      i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.
      i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. 
      i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.
      thank you in advance for your help
      ~Gracie~
      We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
    • BertW
      Gracie: I wouldn t worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula not eating as the spiderlings molt frequently until they
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        Gracie:

        I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem).

        I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's.

        Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.

        Bert Wright
        Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast

        --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
        >
        > hello all
        > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but
        > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month
        > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.
        > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they
        > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i
        > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been
        > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan
        > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything
        > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt.
        > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and
        > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.
        > thank you in advance for your help
        > *~Gracie~*
        >
        > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
        > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
        >
      • Gracie Grant
        hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing
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          hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
          ~Gracie~
          We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


          On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
           

          Gracie:

          I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem).

          I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's.

          Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.

          Bert Wright
          Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast

          --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
          >
          > hello all
          > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but
          > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month
          > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.
          > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they
          > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i
          > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been
          > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan
          > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything
          > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt.
          > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and
          > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.
          > thank you in advance for your help
          > *~Gracie~*
          >
          > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
          > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
          >


        • Dana Goodyear
          depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw,
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            depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
            Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

            From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
            To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
            Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
             
            hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
            ~Gracie~
            We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
            On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
             
            Gracie:

            I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem).

            I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's.

            Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.

            Bert Wright
            Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast

            --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
            >
            > hello all
            > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but
            > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month
            > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.
            > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they
            > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i
            > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been
            > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan
            > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything
            > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt.
            > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and
            > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.
            > thank you in advance for your help
            > *~Gracie~*
            >
            > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
            > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
            >

          • Gracie Grant
            hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my
            Message 5 of 19 , Jan 9, 2013
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              hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
              ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
              ~Gracie~
              We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


              On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
               

              depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
              Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

              From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
              To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
              Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
               
              hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
              ~Gracie~
              We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
              On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
               
              Gracie:

              I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem).

              I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's.

              Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.

              Bert Wright
              Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast

              --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
              >
              > hello all
              > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but
              > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month
              > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.
              > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they
              > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i
              > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been
              > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan
              > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything
              > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt.
              > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and
              > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.
              > thank you in advance for your help
              > *~Gracie~*
              >
              > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
              > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
              >


            • Dana Goodyear
              at their size, meal worms may be too thick for their little fangs.  And cute baby, GBB s are the awesomeness at any size :)  I avoid coconut fiber, it tends
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                at their size, meal worms may be too thick for their little fangs.  And cute baby, GBB's are the awesomeness at any size :)  I avoid coconut fiber, it tends to accrue mold if you want any humidity.  a good peatmoss/vermiculite is the best 50/50 combo for any species, no matter humidity requirements.  plus, at their size, cocnut fibr would be too hard IMO to find the babies in. a good 50/50 mix packed down tight, with humidity is perfect for their size/instar.

                From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                 
                hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                ~Gracie~
                We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                 
                depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                 
                hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                ~Gracie~
                We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                 
                Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >
              • Dana Goodyear
                oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho,
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                  oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                  From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                  To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                  Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                   
                  hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                  ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                  ~Gracie~
                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                  On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                   
                  depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                  Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                  From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                  To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                  Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                   
                  hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                  ~Gracie~
                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                  On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                   
                  Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >
                • Gracie Grant
                  pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably
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                    pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a few min to get their substrate and food! Inline image 1    Inline image 2
                    ~Gracie~
                    We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                    On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                    oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                    From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                    To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                    Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                     
                    hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                    ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                    ~Gracie~
                    We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                    On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                     
                    depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                    Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                    From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                    To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                    Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                     
                    hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                    ~Gracie~
                    We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                    On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                     
                    Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >

                  • Dana Goodyear
                    size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so the bottom can be kind of humid.  id put a few twigs in there for each one too, see
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                      size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so the bottom can be kind of humid.  id put a few twigs in there for each one too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.  :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :)  I just know if i was so small and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to hide and feel safe :)

                      From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                      To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                      Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                       
                      pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a few min to get their substrate and food! Inline image 1    Inline image 2
                      ~Gracie~
                      We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                      On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                      oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                      From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                      To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                      Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                       
                      hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                      ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                      ~Gracie~
                      We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                      On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                       
                      depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                      Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                      From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                      To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                      Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                       
                      hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                      ~Gracie~
                      We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                      On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                       
                      Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >
                    • Gracie Grant
                      ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium plant (for colour). i m wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii on papertowel
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                        ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all made it through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed cricket and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy lady who keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them because there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering 1000 of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding facility lol.
                        thank you all for the help!
                        ~Gracie~
                        We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                        On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                        size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so the bottom can be kind of humid.  id put a few twigs in there for each one too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.  :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :)  I just know if i was so small and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to hide and feel safe :)

                        From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                        To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                        Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                         
                        pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a few min to get their substrate and food! Inline image 1    Inline image 2
                        ~Gracie~
                        We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                        On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                        oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                        From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                        To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                        Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                         
                        hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                        ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                        ~Gracie~
                        We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                        On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                         
                        depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                        Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                        From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                        To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                        Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                         
                        hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                        ~Gracie~
                        We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                        On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                         
                        Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >

                      • PhilM4@...
                        Dear Gracie, You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine they re
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                          Dear Gracie,

                          You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine they're available elsewhere, too.

                          Good luck,

                          Phil





                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                          To: Pet_Tarantulas <Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:24 pm
                          Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice



                          ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all made it through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed cricket and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy lady who keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them because there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering 1000 of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding facility lol.
                          thank you all for the help!
                          ~Gracie~
                          We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                          On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                          size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so the bottom can be kind of humid.  id put a few twigs in there for each one too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.  :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :)  I just know if i was so small and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to hide and feel safe :)

                          From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                          To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                          Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                           
                          pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a few min to get their substrate and food! Inline image 1    Inline image 2
                          ~Gracie~
                          We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                          On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                          oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                          From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                          To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                          Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                           
                          hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                          ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                          ~Gracie~
                          We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                          On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                           
                          depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                          Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                          From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                          To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                          Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                           
                          hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                          ~Gracie~
                          We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                          On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                           
                          Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >



                        • Gracie Grant
                          hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren t sold around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i m going to look into the care
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                            hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren't sold around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i'm going to look into the care of both and see which looks easier to keep long term. thank you!
                            ~Gracie~
                            We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                            On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:17 AM, <PhilM4@...> wrote:
                            Dear Gracie,

                            You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine they're available elsewhere, too.

                            Good luck,

                            Phil





                            -----Original Message-----
                            From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                            To: Pet_Tarantulas <Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:24 pm
                            Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice



                            ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all made it through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed cricket and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy lady who keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them because there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering 1000 of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding facility lol.
                            thank you all for the help!
                            ~Gracie~
                            We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                            On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                            size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so the bottom can be kind of humid.  id put a few twigs in there for each one too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.  :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :)  I just know if i was so small and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to hide and feel safe :)

                            From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                            To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                            Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                             
                            pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a few min to get their substrate and food! Inline image 1    Inline image 2
                            ~Gracie~
                            We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                            On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                            oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                            From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                            To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                            Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                             
                            hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                            ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                            ~Gracie~
                            We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                            On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                             
                            depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                            Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                            From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                            To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                            Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                             
                            hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                            ~Gracie~
                            We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                            On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                             
                            Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >




                          • fin santos
                            Gracie, Yeah maybe your spiderling is about to molt. So remove those pinheads or whatever feeders that you placed in their enclosure. Pinheads and other
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                              Gracie,

                              Yeah maybe your spiderling is about to molt. So remove those pinheads or whatever feeders that you placed in their
                              enclosure. Pinheads and other feeders will hurt and kill your spiderling while molting. Try to observe, maybe your
                              sling is just full that is why it refused eating.
                              Spiderlings also eat termites. So try feeding them if you find some.

                              Fin from Manila, Philippines.


                              From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                              To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:53 PM
                              Subject: [Pet_Tarantulas] new here and needing advice

                               
                              hello all
                              i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.
                              i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. 
                              i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.
                              thank you in advance for your help
                              ~Gracie~
                              We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                            • Dana Goodyear
                              If you have a petsmart in the area, they usually carry flightless fruitflies, heh, almost forgot about those as I dont breed or raise from slings, just know
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                                If you have a petsmart in the area, they usually carry flightless fruitflies, heh, almost forgot about those as I dont breed or raise from slings, just know from the few times ive helped my nephew on slings he gets (hes addicted to T's LOL).  Hope the new babies are doing well?  I just did monthly maintenance on my tanks this morning.  Angry OBT LOL. LOL.  Shes so cute when she gets mad.  haha.

                                From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:04 AM
                                Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                 
                                hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren't sold around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i'm going to look into the care of both and see which looks easier to keep long term. thank you!
                                ~Gracie~
                                We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:17 AM, <PhilM4@...> wrote:
                                Dear Gracie,

                                You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine they're available elsewhere, too.

                                Good luck,

                                Phil





                                -----Original Message-----From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>To: Pet_Tarantulas <Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:24 pmSubject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all made it through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed cricket and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy lady who keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them because there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering 1000 of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding facility lol.
                                thank you all for the help!
                                ~Gracie~
                                We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                                size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so the bottom can be kind of humid.  id put a few twigs in there for each one too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.  :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :)  I just know if i was so small and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to hide and feel safe :)

                                From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                                Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                 
                                pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a few min to get their substrate and food! Inline image 1    Inline image 2
                                ~Gracie~
                                We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                                oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                                From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                                Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                 
                                hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                                ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                                ~Gracie~
                                We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                                 
                                depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                                Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                                From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                                Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                 
                                hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                                ~Gracie~
                                We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                                 
                                Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >
                              • Gracie Grant
                                yup babies are doing well! my GBB and avic amazonica both ate live crickets yesterday and my itty bitty nhandu tripepii ate a presquashed one. i m soo
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                                  yup babies are doing well! my GBB and avic amazonica both ate live crickets yesterday and my itty bitty nhandu tripepii ate a presquashed one. i'm soo releived. the GBB wasn't looking so good, and i couldn't tell if he was premolt or dying. he had only eaten once sincei got him a month ago. had his legs curled under him so i flicked a couple drops of water near him and upped the humidity in the tank, and put all three by a lamp to warm up a bit.  the avic pounced her food right away, and a couple hours later the GBB was over on the wall of his cup tryin to get to her and her food, so i put in a cricket and he went for it. now he is nice and fat. i guess i made the mistake that the fasting was premolt and not being too cold or too dry. the thing i have to deal with now is that i have noticed some white fuzz growning around the ends of some of the sticks i put in. is that mold? and if so, what do i do now, other than take the sticks out obviously. is it going to hurt the babies? do i have to completely repot them again? i finally located plain ole potting soil and just moved them onto that from the pet store junk i had em on. i'm afraid all the moving around is gonna stress them.
                                  sigh, i'm such a worried mom
                                  ~Gracie~
                                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                                  On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                                  If you have a petsmart in the area, they usually carry flightless fruitflies, heh, almost forgot about those as I dont breed or raise from slings, just know from the few times ive helped my nephew on slings he gets (hes addicted to T's LOL).  Hope the new babies are doing well?  I just did monthly maintenance on my tanks this morning.  Angry OBT LOL. LOL.  Shes so cute when she gets mad.  haha.

                                  From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                  To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:04 AM
                                  Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                   
                                  hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren't sold around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i'm going to look into the care of both and see which looks easier to keep long term. thank you!
                                  ~Gracie~
                                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                  On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:17 AM, <PhilM4@...> wrote:
                                  Dear Gracie,

                                  You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine they're available elsewhere, too.

                                  Good luck,

                                  Phil





                                  -----Original Message-----From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>To: Pet_Tarantulas <Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 6:24 pmSubject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                  ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all made it through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed cricket and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy lady who keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them because there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering 1000 of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding facility lol.
                                  thank you all for the help!
                                  ~Gracie~
                                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                  On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                                  size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so the bottom can be kind of humid.  id put a few twigs in there for each one too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.  :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :)  I just know if i was so small and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to hide and feel safe :)

                                  From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                  To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                   
                                  pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not. they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a few min to get their substrate and food! Inline image 1    Inline image 2
                                  ~Gracie~
                                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                  On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                                  oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm water is fine.  you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.  thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said issues.  I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak. 

                                  From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                  To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                   
                                  hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times, but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this point? 
                                  ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)Inline image 1
                                  ~Gracie~
                                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                  On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear <danagoodyear@...> wrote:
                                   
                                  depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon.  they grow pretty fast.  not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more help.  btw, congrats!  I wish my first T was a GBB!  I've always been more toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES match their temperment!).  I cry out for pics!  btw, I reccomend a big thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".  http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                                  Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many, many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on them.  Not to mention it is invaluable!  It can be the difference of being a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.  I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books").  Any other questions feel free to ask!

                                  From: Gracie Grant <graces.choice@...>
                                  To: Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                                  Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                   
                                  hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards. but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                                  ~Gracie~
                                  We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~
                                  On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                                   
                                  Gracie: I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it would seem). I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care sheets for your 'T's. Others may post a response to your questions. The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share your tarantula keeping hobby experiences. Bert Wright Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast --- In mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote: > > hello all > i am very new to the world of Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but > just recently got my first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month > ago. and then today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii. > i am wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have been > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed" lol. my cyan > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't really eaten anything > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt. > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys. and > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol. > thank you in advance for your help > *~Gracie~* > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~* >

                                • BertW
                                  Gracie: Thanks for sharing. Gracie, I have noticed your posts and Pet Group members are giving some great advice and suggestions. My comment on the photos
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                                    Gracie:

                                    Thanks for sharing. Gracie, I have noticed your posts and Pet Group members are giving some great advice and suggestions. My comment on the photos is: The jar seems to be really too big for your slings (in my opinion) - not waaay too big, but, on the side of being, really, too big. Also, you need some substrate in there (if you are using potting soil, try to make sure that it is organic, as some of the potting soil 'mixes' have ingredients that are chemicals for growing plants such as amonimum nitrate, etc. Organic may be a bit more expensive, but it is Tarantula-safe, normally.) Also, on the sticks, you know that sometimes you can introduce 'stuff' that you may not want in your baby's room. Mold isn't anything to get excited about - tarantulas seem ok around mold (unless, of course, your enclosure is overrun with it, and that may cause problems). For me, when I have arboreal tarantulas (and, it has been my experience that the arboreals are some of the most difficult to sustain slash keep). I have even 'communed' Avicularia avicularia Guyana Pink toes with limited success - it just seems that they are humidity - temperature - arboreal setting - dependent, or something. Again, this is only my opinion. But, on arboreals, I would have something that they can go vertical on - paper towels rolls and sections of maybe some smaller diameter 'tubes' have been helpful for me (you can lean them on the side) - but this is when they are bigger. For when they are spiderlings - you probably should have a smaller enclosure that has a vented lid. When they are tiny such as your 'slings' they need to be able to catch their food and have their environment more tightly controlled (something at least twice their legs span (in area) and maybe half the size of the jar that you're using - vertically). This is just a suggestion. As they grow, and grow they will, you can increase the size of their enclosure. Gracie, I am not implying, suggesting or even hinting that you are doing anything wrong - you obviously have experience with tarantulas- I am just saying from my experience, you may want to decrease the enclosure size (somewhat) and maybe graduate to that size after a while at a smaller size. Hopefully this information helps. Please continue to keep us posted.

                                    Bert Wright
                                    Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast

                                    --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
                                    >
                                    > yup babies are doing well! my GBB and avic amazonica both ate live crickets
                                    > yesterday and my itty bitty nhandu tripepii ate a presquashed one. i'm soo
                                    > releived. the GBB wasn't looking so good, and i couldn't tell if he was
                                    > premolt or dying. he had only eaten once sincei got him a month ago. had
                                    > his legs curled under him so i flicked a couple drops of water near him and
                                    > upped the humidity in the tank, and put all three by a lamp to warm up a
                                    > bit. the avic pounced her food right away, and a couple hours later the
                                    > GBB was over on the wall of his cup tryin to get to her and her food, so i
                                    > put in a cricket and he went for it. now he is nice and fat. i guess i made
                                    > the mistake that the fasting was premolt and not being too cold or too dry.
                                    > the thing i have to deal with now is that i have noticed some white fuzz
                                    > growning around the ends of some of the sticks i put in. is that mold? and
                                    > if so, what do i do now, other than take the sticks out obviously. is it
                                    > going to hurt the babies? do i have to completely repot them again? i
                                    > finally located plain ole potting soil and just moved them onto that from
                                    > the pet store junk i had em on. i'm afraid all the moving around is gonna
                                    > stress them.
                                    > sigh, i'm such a worried mom
                                    > *~Gracie~*
                                    >
                                    > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                    > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                    >
                                    > > If you have a petsmart in the area, they usually carry flightless
                                    > > fruitflies, heh, almost forgot about those as I dont breed or raise from
                                    > > slings, just know from the few times ive helped my nephew on slings he gets
                                    > > (hes addicted to T's LOL). Hope the new babies are doing well? I just did
                                    > > monthly maintenance on my tanks this morning. Angry OBT LOL. LOL. Shes so
                                    > > cute when she gets mad. haha.
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                    > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:04 AM
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren't sold
                                    > > around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i'm going to look
                                    > > into the care of both and see which looks easier to keep long term. thank
                                    > > you!
                                    > > *~Gracie~*
                                    > >
                                    > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                    > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                    > >
                                    > > ****
                                    > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:17 AM, wrote:**
                                    > >
                                    > > Dear Gracie,
                                    > >
                                    > > You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to
                                    > > get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine they're
                                    > > available elsewhere, too.
                                    > >
                                    > > Good luck,
                                    > >
                                    > > Phil
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > -----Original Message-----** From: Gracie Grant
                                    > > ** To: Pet_Tarantulas ** Sent: Wed, Jan
                                    > > 9, 2013 6:24 pm** Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing
                                    > > advice** **
                                    > > ** ** ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium
                                    > > plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii
                                    > > on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and
                                    > > people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all made it
                                    > > through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed cricket
                                    > > and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy lady who
                                    > > keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get
                                    > > pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them because
                                    > > there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering 1000
                                    > > of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding facility
                                    > > lol.
                                    > > thank you all for the help!
                                    > > *~Gracie~*
                                    > >
                                    > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                    > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                    > >
                                    > > ** **
                                    > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so
                                    > > the bottom can be kind of humid. id put a few twigs in there for each one
                                    > > too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.
                                    > > :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :) I just know if i was so small
                                    > > and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to
                                    > > hide and feel safe :)
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                    > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in
                                    > > comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not.
                                    > > they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a
                                    > > few min to get their substrate and food! [image: Inline image 1] [image:
                                    > > Inline image 2]
                                    > > *~Gracie~*
                                    > >
                                    > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                    > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                    > >
                                    > > ****
                                    > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm
                                    > > water is fine. you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.
                                    > > thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said
                                    > > issues. I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak.
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                    > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times,
                                    > > but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a
                                    > > pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight
                                    > > to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them
                                    > > in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny
                                    > > holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i
                                    > > will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes
                                    > > me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really
                                    > > how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard
                                    > > to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer
                                    > > build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going
                                    > > ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get
                                    > > mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure
                                    > > how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this
                                    > > point?
                                    > > ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)[image: Inline image 1]
                                    > > *~Gracie~*
                                    > >
                                    > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                    > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                    > >
                                    > > ****
                                    > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon. they
                                    > > grow pretty fast. not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more
                                    > > help. btw, congrats! I wish my first T was a GBB! I've always been more
                                    > > toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very
                                    > > very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES
                                    > > match their temperment!). I cry out for pics! btw, I reccomend a big
                                    > > thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".
                                    > > http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                                    > > Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only
                                    > > will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many,
                                    > > many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on
                                    > > them. Not to mention it is invaluable! It can be the difference of being
                                    > > a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.
                                    > > I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you
                                    > > asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it
                                    > > on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books"). Any other
                                    > > questions feel free to ask!
                                    > >
                                    > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                    > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                                    > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards.
                                    > > but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda
                                    > > sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got
                                    > > was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that
                                    > > helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i
                                    > > think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for
                                    > > buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i
                                    > > suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                                    > > *~Gracie~*
                                    > >
                                    > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                    > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                    > >
                                    > > ****
                                    > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW wrote:**
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > >
                                    > > Gracie:** ** I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or
                                    > > Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently
                                    > > until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average
                                    > > molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them
                                    > > 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it
                                    > > would seem).** ** I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the
                                    > > Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you
                                    > > purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link
                                    > > provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British
                                    > > Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care
                                    > > sheets for your 'T's.** ** Others may post a response to your questions.
                                    > > The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck
                                    > > with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share
                                    > > your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.** ** Bert Wright** Fellow
                                    > > Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast** ** --- In
                                    > > mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com ,
                                    > > Gracie Grant wrote:** >** > hello all** > i am very new to the world of
                                    > > Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but** > just recently got my
                                    > > first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month** > ago. and then
                                    > > today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.** > i am
                                    > > wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they** >
                                    > > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i*
                                    > > * > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have
                                    > > been** > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed"
                                    > > lol. my cyan** > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't
                                    > > really eaten anything** > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt.
                                    > > ** > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys.
                                    > > and** > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.** > thank you
                                    > > in advance for your help** > *~Gracie~*** > ** > *~ **We only become what
                                    > > we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of** > that which others
                                    > > have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*** >** **
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > > ****
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > > ****
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > > ****
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > > ** **
                                    > >
                                    > > **
                                    > > ****
                                    > >
                                    >
                                  • Gracie Grant
                                    hi bert! lol i forgot to post pics of their actually enclosures. those were the emergency one that i put em in cuz it was all i could find at the time. i
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                                      hi bert!
                                      lol i forgot to post pics of their actually enclosures. those were the "emergency" one that i put em in cuz it was all i could find at the time. i decided to try and mimic the one that my first sling came in from the breeders. because they said he (GBB) would be ok in it for a while. the poor lil N.tripepii is soo tiny in his. but he stay under the plant, so i make sure his smushed cricket goes right beside him there. 
                                      the soil i have in there contains : peat moss, humus, compost and perlite. i was concerned because i didn't know what perlite was but i think it is similar to vermiculite, which i have heard ppl recommend for substrate mixes...
                                      also, you may laugh at the idea i had for a climbing structure for my avic. but it was the only thing around the house i could find that seemed like it could work.
                                      ok here come the pics! Inline image 1  this is the GBB
                                      Inline image 2Inline image 3  avic, plus idea for avic jungle gym lol
                                      Inline image 4 N.tripepii


                                      is there internet "slang" names for the A. amazonica and N.tripepii? like the GBB? lol i never know what to call em other than the proper names.

                                      also, i think you may be over estimating my "experience" with ts. i have had a couple rose hairs, and a cobalt blue (wow that was an experience) but really had no idea what i was doing with them. and they were all full grown when i got them. 
                                      i am in love with my new hobby though. and it is so hard to resist the urge to make a giant list of my next additions. i seem to want them all. lol

                                      ~Gracie~
                                      We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                                      On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                                       

                                      Gracie:

                                      Thanks for sharing. Gracie, I have noticed your posts and Pet Group members are giving some great advice and suggestions. My comment on the photos is: The jar seems to be really too big for your slings (in my opinion) - not waaay too big, but, on the side of being, really, too big. Also, you need some substrate in there (if you are using potting soil, try to make sure that it is organic, as some of the potting soil 'mixes' have ingredients that are chemicals for growing plants such as amonimum nitrate, etc. Organic may be a bit more expensive, but it is Tarantula-safe, normally.) Also, on the sticks, you know that sometimes you can introduce 'stuff' that you may not want in your baby's room. Mold isn't anything to get excited about - tarantulas seem ok around mold (unless, of course, your enclosure is overrun with it, and that may cause problems). For me, when I have arboreal tarantulas (and, it has been my experience that the arboreals are some of the most difficult to sustain slash keep). I have even 'communed' Avicularia avicularia Guyana Pink toes with limited success - it just seems that they are humidity - temperature - arboreal setting - dependent, or something. Again, this is only my opinion. But, on arboreals, I would have something that they can go vertical on - paper towels rolls and sections of maybe some smaller diameter 'tubes' have been helpful for me (you can lean them on the side) - but this is when they are bigger. For when they are spiderlings - you probably should have a smaller enclosure that has a vented lid. When they are tiny such as your 'slings' they need to be able to catch their food and have their environment more tightly controlled (something at least twice their legs span (in area) and maybe half the size of the jar that you're using - vertically). This is just a suggestion. As they grow, and grow they will, you can increase the size of their enclosure. Gracie, I am not implying, suggesting or even hinting that you are doing anything wrong - you obviously have experience with tarantulas- I am just saying from my experience, you may want to decrease the enclosure size (somewhat) and maybe graduate to that size after a while at a smaller size. Hopefully this information helps. Please continue to keep us posted.

                                      Bert Wright
                                      Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast

                                      --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
                                      >
                                      > yup babies are doing well! my GBB and avic amazonica both ate live crickets
                                      > yesterday and my itty bitty nhandu tripepii ate a presquashed one. i'm soo
                                      > releived. the GBB wasn't looking so good, and i couldn't tell if he was
                                      > premolt or dying. he had only eaten once sincei got him a month ago. had
                                      > his legs curled under him so i flicked a couple drops of water near him and
                                      > upped the humidity in the tank, and put all three by a lamp to warm up a
                                      > bit. the avic pounced her food right away, and a couple hours later the
                                      > GBB was over on the wall of his cup tryin to get to her and her food, so i
                                      > put in a cricket and he went for it. now he is nice and fat. i guess i made
                                      > the mistake that the fasting was premolt and not being too cold or too dry.
                                      > the thing i have to deal with now is that i have noticed some white fuzz
                                      > growning around the ends of some of the sticks i put in. is that mold? and
                                      > if so, what do i do now, other than take the sticks out obviously. is it
                                      > going to hurt the babies? do i have to completely repot them again? i
                                      > finally located plain ole potting soil and just moved them onto that from
                                      > the pet store junk i had em on. i'm afraid all the moving around is gonna
                                      > stress them.
                                      > sigh, i'm such a worried mom
                                      > *~Gracie~*
                                      >
                                      > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                      > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                      >
                                      > > If you have a petsmart in the area, they usually carry flightless
                                      > > fruitflies, heh, almost forgot about those as I dont breed or raise from
                                      > > slings, just know from the few times ive helped my nephew on slings he gets
                                      > > (hes addicted to T's LOL). Hope the new babies are doing well? I just did
                                      > > monthly maintenance on my tanks this morning. Angry OBT LOL. LOL. Shes so
                                      > > cute when she gets mad. haha.
                                      > >
                                      > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                      > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:04 AM
                                      > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren't sold
                                      > > around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i'm going to look
                                      > > into the care of both and see which looks easier to keep long term. thank
                                      > > you!
                                      > > *~Gracie~*
                                      > >
                                      > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                      > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                      > >
                                      > > ****
                                      > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:17 AM, wrote:**
                                      > >
                                      > > Dear Gracie,
                                      > >
                                      > > You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to
                                      > > get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine they're
                                      > > available elsewhere, too.
                                      > >
                                      > > Good luck,
                                      > >
                                      > > Phil
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > -----Original Message-----** From: Gracie Grant
                                      > > ** To: Pet_Tarantulas ** Sent: Wed, Jan
                                      > > 9, 2013 6:24 pm** Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing
                                      > > advice** **
                                      > > ** ** ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium
                                      > > plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the N.tipepii
                                      > > on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and
                                      > > people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all made it
                                      > > through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed cricket
                                      > > and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy lady who
                                      > > keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get
                                      > > pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them because
                                      > > there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering 1000
                                      > > of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding facility
                                      > > lol.
                                      > > thank you all for the help!
                                      > > *~Gracie~*
                                      > >
                                      > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                      > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                      > >
                                      > > ** **
                                      > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so
                                      > > the bottom can be kind of humid. id put a few twigs in there for each one
                                      > > too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding space.
                                      > > :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :) I just know if i was so small
                                      > > and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere to
                                      > > hide and feel safe :)
                                      > >
                                      > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                      > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                                      > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars in
                                      > > comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not.
                                      > > they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out in a
                                      > > few min to get their substrate and food! [image: Inline image 1] [image:
                                      > > Inline image 2]
                                      > > *~Gracie~*
                                      > >
                                      > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                      > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                      > >
                                      > > ****
                                      > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm
                                      > > water is fine. you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.
                                      > > thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said
                                      > > issues. I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak.
                                      > >
                                      > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                      > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                                      > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4 times,
                                      > > but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i have a
                                      > > pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store tonight
                                      > > to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have them
                                      > > in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny
                                      > > holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i
                                      > > will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic makes
                                      > > me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or really
                                      > > how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite hard
                                      > > to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer
                                      > > build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm going
                                      > > ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to get
                                      > > mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's sure
                                      > > how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at this
                                      > > point?
                                      > > ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)[image: Inline image 1]
                                      > > *~Gracie~*
                                      > >
                                      > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                      > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                      > >
                                      > > ****
                                      > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon. they
                                      > > grow pretty fast. not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of more
                                      > > help. btw, congrats! I wish my first T was a GBB! I've always been more
                                      > > toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very
                                      > > very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization DOES
                                      > > match their temperment!). I cry out for pics! btw, I reccomend a big
                                      > > thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".
                                      > > http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                                      > > Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not only
                                      > > will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many,
                                      > > many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on
                                      > > them. Not to mention it is invaluable! It can be the difference of being
                                      > > a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of help.
                                      > > I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you
                                      > > asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to reading it
                                      > > on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books"). Any other
                                      > > questions feel free to ask!
                                      > >
                                      > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                      > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                      > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                                      > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards.
                                      > > but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda
                                      > > sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i got
                                      > > was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that
                                      > > helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol. i
                                      > > think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for
                                      > > buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i
                                      > > suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                                      > > *~Gracie~*
                                      > >
                                      > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                      > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                      > >
                                      > > ****
                                      > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW wrote:**
                                      > >
                                      > > **
                                      > >
                                      > > Gracie:** ** I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens or
                                      > > Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt frequently
                                      > > until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average
                                      > > molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed them
                                      > > 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved, it
                                      > > would seem).** ** I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or the
                                      > > Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you
                                      > > purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link
                                      > > provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British
                                      > > Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for care
                                      > > sheets for your 'T's.** ** Others may post a response to your questions.
                                      > > The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good luck
                                      > > with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to share
                                      > > your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.** ** Bert Wright** Fellow
                                      > > Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast** ** --- In
                                      > > mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com ,
                                      > > Gracie Grant wrote:** >** > hello all** > i am very new to the world of
                                      > > Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but** > just recently got my
                                      > > first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month** > ago. and then
                                      > > today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.** > i am
                                      > > wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they** >
                                      > > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials. also, i*
                                      > > * > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i have
                                      > > been** > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed"
                                      > > lol. my cyan** > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't
                                      > > really eaten anything** > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to molt.
                                      > > ** > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these guys.
                                      > > and** > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.** > thank you
                                      > > in advance for your help** > *~Gracie~*** > ** > *~ **We only become what
                                      > > we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of** > that which others
                                      > > have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*** >** **
                                      > >
                                      > > **
                                      > > ****
                                      > >
                                      > > **
                                      > > ****
                                      > >
                                      > > **
                                      > > ****
                                      > >
                                      > > **
                                      > > ** **
                                      > >
                                      > > **
                                      > > ****
                                      > >
                                      >


                                    • BertW
                                      Gracie: Wow - nice digs - I need to have you decorate my enclosures. :). Vermiculite and perlite to me are soil additives that some folks swear by as it
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                                        Gracie:

                                        Wow - nice digs - I need to have you decorate my enclosures. :). Vermiculite and perlite to me are soil additives that some folks swear by as it either aids or promotes moisture retention and helps with terrestrial and burrowing tarantulas, burrow and tunnel (supposedly) - it is a glass-silicate type of matter that, for my substrate, I prefer NOT to have it - but, again, some folks mix it in to get that ideal 'mix' for substrate - I've already told you more than I know about it. :-). Anyway, thanks for your reply - please allow me to retract my previous statements as it looks as though you are well on your way with your tarantulas and have really nice enclosures (my mistake on thinking the glass jars were their permanent home). Please continue to share updates. Thanks Gracie.

                                        Bert Wright
                                        Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast.

                                        --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
                                        >
                                        > hi bert!
                                        > lol i forgot to post pics of their actually enclosures. those were the
                                        > "emergency" one that i put em in cuz it was all i could find at the time. i
                                        > decided to try and mimic the one that my first sling came in from the
                                        > breeders. because they said he (GBB) would be ok in it for a while. the
                                        > poor lil N.tripepii is soo tiny in his. but he stay under the plant, so i
                                        > make sure his smushed cricket goes right beside him there.
                                        > the soil i have in there contains : peat moss, humus, compost and perlite.
                                        > i was concerned because i didn't know what perlite was but i think it is
                                        > similar to vermiculite, which i have heard ppl recommend for substrate
                                        > mixes...
                                        > also, you may laugh at the idea i had for a climbing structure for my avic.
                                        > but it was the only thing around the house i could find that seemed like it
                                        > could work.
                                        > ok here come the pics! [image: Inline image 1] this is the GBB
                                        > [image: Inline image 2][image: Inline image 3] avic, plus idea for avic
                                        > jungle gym lol
                                        > [image: Inline image 4] N.tripepii
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > is there internet "slang" names for the A. amazonica and N.tripepii? like
                                        > the GBB? lol i never know what to call em other than the proper names.
                                        >
                                        > also, i think you may be over estimating my "experience" with ts. i have
                                        > had a couple rose hairs, and a cobalt blue (wow that was an experience) but
                                        > really had no idea what i was doing with them. and they were all full grown
                                        > when i got them.
                                        > i am in love with my new hobby though. and it is so hard to resist the urge
                                        > to make a giant list of my next additions. i seem to want them all. lol
                                        >
                                        > *~Gracie~*
                                        >
                                        > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                        > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, BertW wrote:
                                        >
                                        > > **
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Gracie:
                                        > >
                                        > > Thanks for sharing. Gracie, I have noticed your posts and Pet Group
                                        > > members are giving some great advice and suggestions. My comment on the
                                        > > photos is: The jar seems to be really too big for your slings (in my
                                        > > opinion) - not waaay too big, but, on the side of being, really, too big.
                                        > > Also, you need some substrate in there (if you are using potting soil, try
                                        > > to make sure that it is organic, as some of the potting soil 'mixes' have
                                        > > ingredients that are chemicals for growing plants such as amonimum nitrate,
                                        > > etc. Organic may be a bit more expensive, but it is Tarantula-safe,
                                        > > normally.) Also, on the sticks, you know that sometimes you can introduce
                                        > > 'stuff' that you may not want in your baby's room. Mold isn't anything to
                                        > > get excited about - tarantulas seem ok around mold (unless, of course, your
                                        > > enclosure is overrun with it, and that may cause problems). For me, when I
                                        > > have arboreal tarantulas (and, it has been my experience that the arboreals
                                        > > are some of the most difficult to sustain slash keep). I have even
                                        > > 'communed' Avicularia avicularia Guyana Pink toes with limited success - it
                                        > > just seems that they are humidity - temperature - arboreal setting -
                                        > > dependent, or something. Again, this is only my opinion. But, on arboreals,
                                        > > I would have something that they can go vertical on - paper towels rolls
                                        > > and sections of maybe some smaller diameter 'tubes' have been helpful for
                                        > > me (you can lean them on the side) - but this is when they are bigger. For
                                        > > when they are spiderlings - you probably should have a smaller enclosure
                                        > > that has a vented lid. When they are tiny such as your 'slings' they need
                                        > > to be able to catch their food and have their environment more tightly
                                        > > controlled (something at least twice their legs span (in area) and maybe
                                        > > half the size of the jar that you're using - vertically). This is just a
                                        > > suggestion. As they grow, and grow they will, you can increase the size of
                                        > > their enclosure. Gracie, I am not implying, suggesting or even hinting that
                                        > > you are doing anything wrong - you obviously have experience with
                                        > > tarantulas- I am just saying from my experience, you may want to decrease
                                        > > the enclosure size (somewhat) and maybe graduate to that size after a while
                                        > > at a smaller size. Hopefully this information helps. Please continue to
                                        > > keep us posted.
                                        > >
                                        > > Bert Wright
                                        > > Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast
                                        > >
                                        > > --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
                                        > > >
                                        > > > yup babies are doing well! my GBB and avic amazonica both ate live
                                        > > crickets
                                        > > > yesterday and my itty bitty nhandu tripepii ate a presquashed one. i'm
                                        > > soo
                                        > > > releived. the GBB wasn't looking so good, and i couldn't tell if he was
                                        > > > premolt or dying. he had only eaten once sincei got him a month ago. had
                                        > > > his legs curled under him so i flicked a couple drops of water near him
                                        > > and
                                        > > > upped the humidity in the tank, and put all three by a lamp to warm up a
                                        > > > bit. the avic pounced her food right away, and a couple hours later the
                                        > > > GBB was over on the wall of his cup tryin to get to her and her food, so
                                        > > i
                                        > > > put in a cricket and he went for it. now he is nice and fat. i guess i
                                        > > made
                                        > > > the mistake that the fasting was premolt and not being too cold or too
                                        > > dry.
                                        > > > the thing i have to deal with now is that i have noticed some white fuzz
                                        > > > growning around the ends of some of the sticks i put in. is that mold?
                                        > > and
                                        > > > if so, what do i do now, other than take the sticks out obviously. is it
                                        > > > going to hurt the babies? do i have to completely repot them again? i
                                        > > > finally located plain ole potting soil and just moved them onto that from
                                        > > > the pet store junk i had em on. i'm afraid all the moving around is gonna
                                        > > > stress them.
                                        > > > sigh, i'm such a worried mom
                                        > > > *~Gracie~*
                                        > > >
                                        > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                        > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                        > > >
                                        > > > > If you have a petsmart in the area, they usually carry flightless
                                        > > > > fruitflies, heh, almost forgot about those as I dont breed or raise
                                        > > from
                                        > > > > slings, just know from the few times ive helped my nephew on slings he
                                        > > gets
                                        > > > > (hes addicted to T's LOL). Hope the new babies are doing well? I just
                                        > > did
                                        > > > > monthly maintenance on my tanks this morning. Angry OBT LOL. LOL. Shes
                                        > > so
                                        > > > > cute when she gets mad. haha.
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                        > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:04 AM
                                        > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren't sold
                                        > > > > around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i'm going to
                                        > > look
                                        > > > > into the care of both and see which looks easier to keep long term.
                                        > > thank
                                        > > > > you!
                                        > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                        > > of
                                        > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:17 AM, wrote:**
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > Dear Gracie,
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to
                                        > > > > get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine
                                        > > they're
                                        > > > > available elsewhere, too.
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > Good luck,
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > Phil
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > -----Original Message-----** From: Gracie Grant
                                        > > > > ** To: Pet_Tarantulas ** Sent: Wed, Jan
                                        > > > > 9, 2013 6:24 pm** Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and
                                        > > needing
                                        > > > > advice** **
                                        > > > > ** ** ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium
                                        > > > > plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the
                                        > > N.tipepii
                                        > > > > on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and
                                        > > > > people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all
                                        > > made it
                                        > > > > through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed
                                        > > cricket
                                        > > > > and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy
                                        > > lady who
                                        > > > > keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get
                                        > > > > pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them
                                        > > because
                                        > > > > there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering
                                        > > 1000
                                        > > > > of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding
                                        > > facility
                                        > > > > lol.
                                        > > > > thank you all for the help!
                                        > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                        > > of
                                        > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > ** **
                                        > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so
                                        > > > > the bottom can be kind of humid. id put a few twigs in there for each
                                        > > one
                                        > > > > too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding
                                        > > space.
                                        > > > > :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :) I just know if i was so small
                                        > > > > and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere
                                        > > to
                                        > > > > hide and feel safe :)
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                        > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                                        > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars
                                        > > in
                                        > > > > comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not.
                                        > > > > they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out
                                        > > in a
                                        > > > > few min to get their substrate and food! [image: Inline image 1]
                                        > > [image:
                                        > > > > Inline image 2]
                                        > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                        > > of
                                        > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm
                                        > > > > water is fine. you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.
                                        > > > > thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said
                                        > > > > issues. I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak.
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                        > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                                        > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4
                                        > > times,
                                        > > > > but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i
                                        > > have a
                                        > > > > pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store
                                        > > tonight
                                        > > > > to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have
                                        > > them
                                        > > > > in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny
                                        > > > > holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i
                                        > > > > will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic
                                        > > makes
                                        > > > > me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or
                                        > > really
                                        > > > > how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite
                                        > > hard
                                        > > > > to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer
                                        > > > > build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm
                                        > > going
                                        > > > > ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to
                                        > > get
                                        > > > > mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's
                                        > > sure
                                        > > > > how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at
                                        > > this
                                        > > > > point?
                                        > > > > ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)[image: Inline image 1]
                                        > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                        > > of
                                        > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon. they
                                        > > > > grow pretty fast. not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of
                                        > > more
                                        > > > > help. btw, congrats! I wish my first T was a GBB! I've always been more
                                        > > > > toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very
                                        > > > > very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization
                                        > > DOES
                                        > > > > match their temperment!). I cry out for pics! btw, I reccomend a big
                                        > > > > thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".
                                        > > > >
                                        > > http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                                        > > > > Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not
                                        > > only
                                        > > > > will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many,
                                        > > > > many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on
                                        > > > > them. Not to mention it is invaluable! It can be the difference of
                                        > > being
                                        > > > > a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of
                                        > > help.
                                        > > > > I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you
                                        > > > > asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to
                                        > > reading it
                                        > > > > on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books"). Any
                                        > > other
                                        > > > > questions feel free to ask!
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                        > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                        > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                                        > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards.
                                        > > > > but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda
                                        > > > > sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i
                                        > > got
                                        > > > > was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that
                                        > > > > helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol.
                                        > > i
                                        > > > > think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for
                                        > > > > buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i
                                        > > > > suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                                        > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                        > > of
                                        > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW wrote:**
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > Gracie:** ** I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens
                                        > > or
                                        > > > > Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt
                                        > > frequently
                                        > > > > until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average
                                        > > > > molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed
                                        > > them
                                        > > > > 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved,
                                        > > it
                                        > > > > would seem).** ** I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or
                                        > > the
                                        > > > > Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you
                                        > > > > purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link
                                        > > > > provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British
                                        > > > > Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for
                                        > > care
                                        > > > > sheets for your 'T's.** ** Others may post a response to your
                                        > > questions.
                                        > > > > The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good
                                        > > luck
                                        > > > > with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to
                                        > > share
                                        > > > > your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.** ** Bert Wright** Fellow
                                        > > > > Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast** ** --- In
                                        > > > > mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com ,
                                        > > > > Gracie Grant wrote:** >** > hello all** > i am very new to the world of
                                        > > > > Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but** > just recently got my
                                        > > > > first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month** > ago. and then
                                        > > > > today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.** > i am
                                        > > > > wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they**
                                        > > >
                                        > > > > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials.
                                        > > also, i*
                                        > > > > * > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i
                                        > > have
                                        > > > > been** > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed"
                                        > > > > lol. my cyan** > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't
                                        > > > > really eaten anything** > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to
                                        > > molt.
                                        > > > > ** > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these
                                        > > guys.
                                        > > > > and** > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.** > thank you
                                        > > > > in advance for your help** > *~Gracie~*** > ** > *~ **We only become
                                        > > what
                                        > > > > we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of** > that which others
                                        > > > > have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*** >** **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > > ** **
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > **
                                        > > > > ****
                                        > > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        >
                                      • Gracie Grant
                                        hi again Bert! i m glad you like my sling cups lol. i had the hardest time finding plain ole dirt! apparently there isn t a huge demand for it in canada in the
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                                          hi again Bert!
                                          i'm glad you like my sling cups lol. i had the hardest time finding plain ole dirt! apparently there isn't a huge demand for it in canada in the dead of winter. haha so this mix was the closest i could find and the only one that didn't have chemicals in it. i figure it will work for now. and after the scare with my GBB because of dehydration, i'm thinking a little more humidity probably isn't a bad thing.
                                          what kind of Ts do you have?
                                          ~Gracie~
                                          We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)~


                                          On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, BertW <Bert.H.Wright@...> wrote:
                                           

                                          Gracie:

                                          Wow - nice digs - I need to have you decorate my enclosures. :). Vermiculite and perlite to me are soil additives that some folks swear by as it either aids or promotes moisture retention and helps with terrestrial and burrowing tarantulas, burrow and tunnel (supposedly) - it is a glass-silicate type of matter that, for my substrate, I prefer NOT to have it - but, again, some folks mix it in to get that ideal 'mix' for substrate - I've already told you more than I know about it. :-). Anyway, thanks for your reply - please allow me to retract my previous statements as it looks as though you are well on your way with your tarantulas and have really nice enclosures (my mistake on thinking the glass jars were their permanent home). Please continue to share updates. Thanks Gracie.

                                          Bert Wright
                                          Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast.

                                          --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
                                          >
                                          > hi bert!
                                          > lol i forgot to post pics of their actually enclosures. those were the
                                          > "emergency" one that i put em in cuz it was all i could find at the time. i
                                          > decided to try and mimic the one that my first sling came in from the
                                          > breeders. because they said he (GBB) would be ok in it for a while. the
                                          > poor lil N.tripepii is soo tiny in his. but he stay under the plant, so i
                                          > make sure his smushed cricket goes right beside him there.
                                          > the soil i have in there contains : peat moss, humus, compost and perlite.
                                          > i was concerned because i didn't know what perlite was but i think it is
                                          > similar to vermiculite, which i have heard ppl recommend for substrate
                                          > mixes...
                                          > also, you may laugh at the idea i had for a climbing structure for my avic.
                                          > but it was the only thing around the house i could find that seemed like it
                                          > could work.
                                          > ok here come the pics! [image: Inline image 1] this is the GBB
                                          > [image: Inline image 2][image: Inline image 3] avic, plus idea for avic
                                          > jungle gym lol
                                          > [image: Inline image 4] N.tripepii
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > is there internet "slang" names for the A. amazonica and N.tripepii? like
                                          > the GBB? lol i never know what to call em other than the proper names.
                                          >
                                          > also, i think you may be over estimating my "experience" with ts. i have
                                          > had a couple rose hairs, and a cobalt blue (wow that was an experience) but
                                          > really had no idea what i was doing with them. and they were all full grown
                                          > when i got them.
                                          > i am in love with my new hobby though. and it is so hard to resist the urge
                                          > to make a giant list of my next additions. i seem to want them all. lol
                                          >
                                          > *~Gracie~*
                                          >
                                          > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                          > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM, BertW wrote:
                                          >
                                          > > **
                                          > >
                                          > >
                                          > > Gracie:
                                          > >
                                          > > Thanks for sharing. Gracie, I have noticed your posts and Pet Group
                                          > > members are giving some great advice and suggestions. My comment on the
                                          > > photos is: The jar seems to be really too big for your slings (in my
                                          > > opinion) - not waaay too big, but, on the side of being, really, too big.
                                          > > Also, you need some substrate in there (if you are using potting soil, try
                                          > > to make sure that it is organic, as some of the potting soil 'mixes' have
                                          > > ingredients that are chemicals for growing plants such as amonimum nitrate,
                                          > > etc. Organic may be a bit more expensive, but it is Tarantula-safe,
                                          > > normally.) Also, on the sticks, you know that sometimes you can introduce
                                          > > 'stuff' that you may not want in your baby's room. Mold isn't anything to
                                          > > get excited about - tarantulas seem ok around mold (unless, of course, your
                                          > > enclosure is overrun with it, and that may cause problems). For me, when I
                                          > > have arboreal tarantulas (and, it has been my experience that the arboreals
                                          > > are some of the most difficult to sustain slash keep). I have even
                                          > > 'communed' Avicularia avicularia Guyana Pink toes with limited success - it
                                          > > just seems that they are humidity - temperature - arboreal setting -
                                          > > dependent, or something. Again, this is only my opinion. But, on arboreals,
                                          > > I would have something that they can go vertical on - paper towels rolls
                                          > > and sections of maybe some smaller diameter 'tubes' have been helpful for
                                          > > me (you can lean them on the side) - but this is when they are bigger. For
                                          > > when they are spiderlings - you probably should have a smaller enclosure
                                          > > that has a vented lid. When they are tiny such as your 'slings' they need
                                          > > to be able to catch their food and have their environment more tightly
                                          > > controlled (something at least twice their legs span (in area) and maybe
                                          > > half the size of the jar that you're using - vertically). This is just a
                                          > > suggestion. As they grow, and grow they will, you can increase the size of
                                          > > their enclosure. Gracie, I am not implying, suggesting or even hinting that
                                          > > you are doing anything wrong - you obviously have experience with
                                          > > tarantulas- I am just saying from my experience, you may want to decrease
                                          > > the enclosure size (somewhat) and maybe graduate to that size after a while
                                          > > at a smaller size. Hopefully this information helps. Please continue to
                                          > > keep us posted.
                                          > >
                                          > > Bert Wright
                                          > > Fellow Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com, Gracie Grant wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > yup babies are doing well! my GBB and avic amazonica both ate live
                                          > > crickets
                                          > > > yesterday and my itty bitty nhandu tripepii ate a presquashed one. i'm
                                          > > soo
                                          > > > releived. the GBB wasn't looking so good, and i couldn't tell if he was
                                          > > > premolt or dying. he had only eaten once sincei got him a month ago. had
                                          > > > his legs curled under him so i flicked a couple drops of water near him
                                          > > and
                                          > > > upped the humidity in the tank, and put all three by a lamp to warm up a
                                          > > > bit. the avic pounced her food right away, and a couple hours later the
                                          > > > GBB was over on the wall of his cup tryin to get to her and her food, so
                                          > > i
                                          > > > put in a cricket and he went for it. now he is nice and fat. i guess i
                                          > > made
                                          > > > the mistake that the fasting was premolt and not being too cold or too
                                          > > dry.
                                          > > > the thing i have to deal with now is that i have noticed some white fuzz
                                          > > > growning around the ends of some of the sticks i put in. is that mold?
                                          > > and
                                          > > > if so, what do i do now, other than take the sticks out obviously. is it
                                          > > > going to hurt the babies? do i have to completely repot them again? i
                                          > > > finally located plain ole potting soil and just moved them onto that from
                                          > > > the pet store junk i had em on. i'm afraid all the moving around is gonna
                                          > > > stress them.
                                          > > > sigh, i'm such a worried mom
                                          > > > *~Gracie~*
                                          > > >
                                          > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of
                                          > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > >
                                          > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > > If you have a petsmart in the area, they usually carry flightless
                                          > > > > fruitflies, heh, almost forgot about those as I dont breed or raise
                                          > > from
                                          > > > > slings, just know from the few times ive helped my nephew on slings he
                                          > > gets
                                          > > > > (hes addicted to T's LOL). Hope the new babies are doing well? I just
                                          > > did
                                          > > > > monthly maintenance on my tanks this morning. Angry OBT LOL. LOL. Shes
                                          > > so
                                          > > > > cute when she gets mad. haha.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                          > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:04 AM
                                          > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > hi phil, i have been looking at those too. but again they aren't sold
                                          > > > > around here. i would have to mail order as well. i think i'm going to
                                          > > look
                                          > > > > into the care of both and see which looks easier to keep long term.
                                          > > thank
                                          > > > > you!
                                          > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                          > > of
                                          > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ****
                                          > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:17 AM, wrote:**
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Dear Gracie,
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > You can always go with flightless fruit flies. They are easy enough to
                                          > > > > get at chain pet stores here (in Southern California), so I imagine
                                          > > they're
                                          > > > > available elsewhere, too.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Good luck,
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Phil
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > -----Original Message-----** From: Gracie Grant
                                          > > > > ** To: Pet_Tarantulas ** Sent: Wed, Jan
                                          > > > > 9, 2013 6:24 pm** Subject: Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and
                                          > > needing
                                          > > > > advice** **
                                          > > > > ** ** ok substrate in, twigs in each and a piece of a plastic aquarium
                                          > > > > plant (for colour). i'm wondering now if i should have kept the
                                          > > N.tipepii
                                          > > > > on papertowel though. i can't see him in there for the life of me. and
                                          > > > > people weren't kidding when they said avics were fast!! but we all
                                          > > made it
                                          > > > > through our first day together. they each have a partially smashed
                                          > > cricket
                                          > > > > and have been put to bed for the night (away from that giant crazy
                                          > > lady who
                                          > > > > keeps messing with their homes!) it looks like i wont be able to get
                                          > > > > pinheads here. the store i used to work at stopped carrying them
                                          > > because
                                          > > > > there wasn't enough demand. and i am not sure i can justify ordering
                                          > > 1000
                                          > > > > of them for 3 slings. unless i want to start a cricket breeding
                                          > > facility
                                          > > > > lol.
                                          > > > > thank you all for the help!
                                          > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                          > > of
                                          > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ** **
                                          > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > size is fine to help hold humidity id do about 3/4 of each substrate so
                                          > > > > the bottom can be kind of humid. id put a few twigs in there for each
                                          > > one
                                          > > > > too, see their webbing behavior, and help give em a little hiding
                                          > > space.
                                          > > > > :) its ur call decorate as you see fit :) I just know if i was so small
                                          > > > > and somone was so large by me, id be shy to eat unless i had somewhere
                                          > > to
                                          > > > > hide and feel safe :)
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                          > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:20 PM
                                          > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > pics of the two new little ones :) it also shows the size of the jars
                                          > > in
                                          > > > > comparision to them. so you can let me know if they are too big or not.
                                          > > > > they probably hold about a cup, possibly a cup and a half. heading out
                                          > > in a
                                          > > > > few min to get their substrate and food! [image: Inline image 1]
                                          > > [image:
                                          > > > > Inline image 2]
                                          > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                          > > of
                                          > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ****
                                          > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > oh, and as far as humidity in those little cans, a few drops of warm
                                          > > > > water is fine. you want a slight condensation inside, but not swampy.
                                          > > > > thats me tho, and i avoid younglings less then 6 monthes old, for said
                                          > > > > issues. I dont like the risk factor for the cost and heartbreak.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                          > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:40 PM
                                          > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > hahaha i keep that book in my purse! i think i have read it like 4
                                          > > times,
                                          > > > > but am just starting it over again. i might have missed something! i
                                          > > have a
                                          > > > > pic of my GBB but not the new two yet. i'm going to the pet store
                                          > > tonight
                                          > > > > to get either coconut fibre or possibly potting soil. right now i have
                                          > > them
                                          > > > > in mason jars with ziploc bags cut and placed over top, with some tiny
                                          > > > > holes poked in. i have some sticks that i use for my chinchillas that i
                                          > > > > will put in the avic jar for climbing. the humidity part of the avic
                                          > > makes
                                          > > > > me a little nervous. not sure how much is enough, or too much. or
                                          > > really
                                          > > > > how to accomplish it in a small space like the jar. also it was quite
                                          > > hard
                                          > > > > to poke holes in the nhandu lid, cuz he's sooo little lol. much finer
                                          > > > > build than the other two. cricket heads sounds like a good idea. i'm
                                          > > going
                                          > > > > ot check out the pinhead situation at the pet store. but i may have to
                                          > > get
                                          > > > > mediums, which tend to be bigger than my little slings, so i want's
                                          > > sure
                                          > > > > how to deal with that. what about meal worms? how would they work at
                                          > > this
                                          > > > > point?
                                          > > > > ok here is the pic of my GBB, Speckster :)[image: Inline image 1]
                                          > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                          > > of
                                          > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ****
                                          > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dana Goodyear wrote:
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > depending on the size, a cricket head will do for the amazon. they
                                          > > > > grow pretty fast. not so sure on the last one. :) wish I could be of
                                          > > more
                                          > > > > help. btw, congrats! I wish my first T was a GBB! I've always been more
                                          > > > > toward pokies ha! (no i dont suggest going old world until you are very
                                          > > > > very very experienced at T keeping, albiet pretty, their venomization
                                          > > DOES
                                          > > > > match their temperment!). I cry out for pics! btw, I reccomend a big
                                          > > > > thick book called "The Tarantula Keepers Guide".
                                          > > > >
                                          > > http://www.amazon.com/Tarantula-Keepers-Guide-Comprehensive-Information/dp/0764138855
                                          > > > > Its a "must have" jam packed with such valuable information, and not
                                          > > only
                                          > > > > will it educate you deeper on T's, it will enlighten you to many, many,
                                          > > > > many, aspects of keeping T's and variant scientific classifications on
                                          > > > > them. Not to mention it is invaluable! It can be the difference of
                                          > > being
                                          > > > > a new keeper for ten years, or an expert within 3! :D Hope I was of
                                          > > help.
                                          > > > > I'd dig around for my nice big thick book I listed for information you
                                          > > > > asked about, but I'm afraid its out in my truck! (ya I admit to
                                          > > reading it
                                          > > > > on downtime at work alot lol! It's just "one of those books"). Any
                                          > > other
                                          > > > > questions feel free to ask!
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *From:* Gracie Grant
                                          > > > > *To:* Pet_Tarantulas@yahoogroups.com
                                          > > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:47 AM
                                          > > > > *Subject:* Re: [Pet_Tarantulas] Re: new here and needing advice
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > hi bert! thank you for replying. i have been reading the arachnoboards.
                                          > > > > but am a little intimidated because most of the members there get kinda
                                          > > > > sick of hearing the same questions. i did post but the only answer i
                                          > > got
                                          > > > > was that the care was the same for an avic or nhandu....not really that
                                          > > > > helpful considering i'm not familiar with the care of them either lol.
                                          > > i
                                          > > > > think i am going to email the dealers. i just feel rather foolish for
                                          > > > > buying the ts and then emailing asking how to look after them. but i
                                          > > > > suppose looking foolish is much better than having a dead sling right?
                                          > > > > *~Gracie~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > *~ **We only become what we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal
                                          > > of
                                          > > > > that which others have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > ****
                                          > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, BertW wrote:**
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Gracie:** ** I wouldn't worry over your Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens
                                          > > or
                                          > > > > Green bottle blue tarantula 'not eating' as the spiderlings molt
                                          > > frequently
                                          > > > > until they reach sub-adult size and near their once - per- year average
                                          > > > > molt cycle. Also, pinhead crickets are fine for the spiderlings - feed
                                          > > them
                                          > > > > 'live' though as tarantulas rarely eat dead crickets (unless starved,
                                          > > it
                                          > > > > would seem).** ** I am not familiar with the Avicularia amazonica or
                                          > > the
                                          > > > > Nhandu tripepii - I would suggest contacting the 'dealer' from whom you
                                          > > > > purchased the tarantulas from, for a start. Also, Arachnopets (link
                                          > > > > provided in this group site), American Tarantula Society or the British
                                          > > > > Tarantula Society for other resources (after contacting the dealer)for
                                          > > care
                                          > > > > sheets for your 'T's.** ** Others may post a response to your
                                          > > questions.
                                          > > > > The information is out there, yet sometimes difficult to find. Good
                                          > > luck
                                          > > > > with finding care sheets for your spiderlings and please continue to
                                          > > share
                                          > > > > your tarantula keeping hobby experiences.** ** Bert Wright** Fellow
                                          > > > > Tarantula Keeper/Enthusiast** ** --- In
                                          > > > > mailto:Pet_Tarantulas%40yahoogroups.com ,
                                          > > > > Gracie Grant wrote:** >** > hello all** > i am very new to the world of
                                          > > > > Ts. i have had a few adults in the past, but** > just recently got my
                                          > > > > first slings. i got a c.cyaneopubescens about a month** > ago. and then
                                          > > > > today received my a.amazonica and a surprise free n.tripepii.** > i am
                                          > > > > wondering how i should set up the new two for their enclosures. they**
                                          > > >
                                          > > > > are between 1/4-1/2 inch. they arrived in pill bottle type vials.
                                          > > also, i*
                                          > > > > * > have read that some ppl feed their slings prekilled crickets. i
                                          > > have
                                          > > > > been** > using live pinheads for my cyan. should i switch to "mashed"
                                          > > > > lol. my cyan** > ate very well the first week (3 crickets) but hasn't
                                          > > > > really eaten anything** > since. i'm wondering if he is preparing to
                                          > > molt.
                                          > > > > ** > i am so worried i am going ot make newbie mistakes with these
                                          > > guys.
                                          > > > > and** > reading online seems to just be confusing me lol.** > thank you
                                          > > > > in advance for your help** > *~Gracie~*** > ** > *~ **We only become
                                          > > what
                                          > > > > we are by the radical and deep-seated refusal of** > that which others
                                          > > > > have made of us.(Jean-Paul Sartre)**~*** >** **
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > **
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                                          > > > > **
                                          > > > > ****
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