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  • L.D.I. Felipe B. González
    Karol, I can´t see your site. Best regards from Mexico 2012/6/1 panometr ... -- L.D.I. Felipe B. González C. felipe@fpk.com.mx 1998-5246
    Message 1 of 16 , Jun 1, 2012
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      Karol,

      I can´t see your site.

      Best regards from Mexico

      2012/6/1 panometr <k_kwiatek@...>
       

      Nicolas,

      I support your idea of creating such software for stitching video files. There are more and more cameras and people try to use 360-degree rigs of cameras but they don't want to spend much time on synchronizing and stitching videos frame by frame. They need this software.

      Please have a look to my recent project:
      http://www.themiloshcompass.com

      It includes 52 video panoramas that were created using a 360-degree rig and there was no time to stitch videos correctly.
      What do you think about this project?

      Good luck, Nicolas.

      Karol Kwiatek




      --
      L.D.I. Felipe B. González C.
      felipe@...
      1998-5246
      www.fpk.com.mx
      http://recorridosvirtuales.wordpress.com/

      Socio Director Maquetas Virtuales www.maquetasvirtuales.com
      Socio Director Recorridos Virtuales www.recorridosvirtuales.com
    • Jesse Garnier
      Lost in translation: http://www.themiloszcompass.com/ Cheers-- -- Jesse Garnier San Francisco, Calif. http://stonehopper.com/360
      Message 2 of 16 , Jun 1, 2012
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        Lost in translation:

        http://www.themiloszcompass.com/

        Cheers--

        --
        Jesse Garnier
        San Francisco, Calif.
        http://stonehopper.com/360

        On 6/1/12 2:31 PM, L.D.I. Felipe B. González wrote:

        > Karol,
        >
        > I can´t see your site.
        >
        > Best regards from Mexico
        >
        > 2012/6/1 panometr <k_kwiatek@... <mailto:k_kwiatek@...>>
        >
        > __
        >
        > Nicolas,
        >
        > I support your idea of creating such software for stitching video
        > files. There are more and more cameras and people try to use
        > 360-degree rigs of cameras but they don't want to spend much time on
        > synchronizing and stitching videos frame by frame. They need this
        > software.
        >
        > Please have a look to my recent project:
        > http://www.themiloshcompass.com
      • Sacha Griffin
        I am unable to see anything after clicking the links but a black screen. Best Regards, Sacha Griffin Southern Digital Solutions LLC - Atlanta, Georgia
        Message 3 of 16 , Jun 1, 2012
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          I am unable to see anything after clicking the links but a black screen.

           

          Best Regards,

           

          Sacha Griffin

          Southern Digital Solutions LLC  - Atlanta, Georgia

          http://www.seeit360.com

          http://twitter.com/SeeIt360

          http://www.facebook.com/SeeIt360

          IM: sachagriffin007@...

          Office: 404-551-4275

           

           

          From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Garnier
          Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:56 PM
          To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Survey about video stitching tool

           

           

          Lost in translation:

          http://www.themiloszcompass.com/

          Cheers--

          --
          Jesse Garnier
          San Francisco, Calif.
          http://stonehopper.com/360


        • Felipe
          Same here. I get a neverending loading bar. Sent from my iPad
          Message 4 of 16 , Jun 2, 2012
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            Same here. I get a neverending loading bar.


            Sent from my iPad

            On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:04 PM, "Sacha Griffin" <sachagriffin@...> wrote:

             

            I am unable to see anything after clicking the links but a black screen.

             

            Best Regards,

             

            Sacha Griffin

            Southern Digital Solutions LLC  - Atlanta, Georgia

            http://www.seeit360.com

            http://twitter.com/SeeIt360

            http://www.facebook.com/SeeIt360

            IM: sachagriffin007@...

            Office: 404-551-4275

             

             

            From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Garnier
            Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:56 PM
            To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Survey about video stitching tool

             

             

            Lost in translation:

            http://www.themiloszcompass.com/

            Cheers--

            --
            Jesse Garnier
            San Francisco, Calif.
            http://stonehopper.com/360


          • panometr
            This is the correct link: http://www.themiloszcompass.com/ What do you think about this project? Karol Kwiatek, Poland
            Message 5 of 16 , Jun 2, 2012
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              This is the correct link:
              http://www.themiloszcompass.com/

              What do you think about this project?

              Karol Kwiatek, Poland



              --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, L.D.I. Felipe B. González <felipe@...> wrote:
              >
              > Karol,
              >
              > I can´t see your site.
              >
              > Best regards from Mexico
              >
              > 2012/6/1 panometr <k_kwiatek@...>
              >
              > > **
              > >
              > >
              > > Nicolas,
              > >
              > > I support your idea of creating such software for stitching video files.
              > > There are more and more cameras and people try to use 360-degree rigs of
              > > cameras but they don't want to spend much time on synchronizing and
              > > stitching videos frame by frame. They need this software.
              > >
              > > Please have a look to my recent project:
              > > http://www.themiloshcompass.com
              > >
              > > It includes 52 video panoramas that were created using a 360-degree rig
              > > and there was no time to stitch videos correctly.
              > > What do you think about this project?
              > >
              > > Good luck, Nicolas.
              > >
              > > Karol Kwiatek
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              > --
              > L.D.I. Felipe B. González C.
              > felipe@...
              > 1998-5246
              > www.fpk.com.mx
              > http://recorridosvirtuales.wordpress.com/<http://recorridosvirtualesmexico.blogspot.com/>
              >
              > Socio Director Maquetas Virtuales www.maquetasvirtuales.com
              > Socio Director Recorridos Virtuales www.recorridosvirtuales.com
              >
            • AYRTON
              ... Karol did you read what some friends already said ? *does not work !* only a black screen forever :-( best AYRTON ... On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:52 PM,
              Message 6 of 16 , Jun 2, 2012
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                On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:52 PM, panometr <k_kwiatek@...> wrote:
                This is the correct link:
                http://www.themiloszcompass.com/
                What do you think about this project?
                Karol Kwiatek, Poland


                Karol
                did you read what some friends already said ?

                does not work !

                only a black screen forever :-(

                best

                 AYRTON






                --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, L.D.I. Felipe B. González <felipe@...> wrote:
                >
                > Karol,
                >
                > I can´t see your site.
                >
                > Best regards from Mexico
                >
                > 2012/6/1 panometr <k_kwiatek@...>
                >
                > > **
                > >
                > >
                > > Nicolas,
                > >
                > > I support your idea of creating such software for stitching video files.
                > > There are more and more cameras and people try to use 360-degree rigs of
                > > cameras but they don't want to spend much time on synchronizing and
                > > stitching videos frame by frame. They need this software.
                > >
                > > Please have a look to my recent project:
                > > http://www.themiloshcompass.com
                > >
                > > It includes 52 video panoramas that were created using a 360-degree rig
                > > and there was no time to stitch videos correctly.
                > > What do you think about this project?
                > >
                > > Good luck, Nicolas.
                > >
                > > Karol Kwiatek
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                >
                >
                > --
                > L.D.I. Felipe B. González C.
                > felipe@...
                > 1998-5246
                > www.fpk.com.mx
                > http://recorridosvirtuales.wordpress.com/<http://recorridosvirtualesmexico.blogspot.com/>
                >
                > Socio Director Maquetas Virtuales www.maquetasvirtuales.com
                > Socio Director Recorridos Virtuales www.recorridosvirtuales.com
                >



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              • Christian Bloch
                Ah, on the second attempt I got it. They just take an unbelievable long time to load, about half an hour when you have a good broadband connection and choose
                Message 7 of 16 , Jun 2, 2012
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                  Ah, on the second attempt I got it.

                  They just take an unbelievable long time to load, about half an hour when you have a good broadband connection and choose Medium. 

                  I'm not really sure what the project is about. Is it art? 

                  Well, since you're asking about opinions, here are some thoughts:
                  - The seams are extremely obvious. I recommend exposure using exposure correction of the sectors.
                  - Videos should better be streaming.
                  - If you can't stream, I recommend shorter looping pieces to limit loading time.
                  - The mirror effect is too heavy and works against the feeling of immersion.
                  - Fonts on the site are very small. I can't read anything.
                  - I was waiting for something to happen, but the scene I tried was just a low resolution video where nothing moves. Would be more efficient to use a mashup-technique to combine static photos with moving inserts.
                  - Sound is extremely loud. 
                  - The player hijacks my mouse pointer, but with a different sensitivity. It's very hard to click outside the browser.

                  Best,
                  Blochi


                  On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:55 PM, AYRTON wrote:

                   

                  On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:52 PM, panometr <k_kwiatek@...> wrote:
                  This is the correct link:
                  http://www.themiloszcompass.com/
                  What do you think about this project?
                  Karol Kwiatek, Poland


                  Karol
                  did you read what some friends already said ?

                  does not work !

                  only a black screen forever :-(

                  best

                   AYRTON






                  --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, L.D.I. Felipe B. González <felipe@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Karol,
                  >
                  > I can´t see your site.
                  >
                  > Best regards from Mexico
                  >
                  > 2012/6/1 panometr <k_kwiatek@...>
                  >
                  > > **
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Nicolas,
                  > >
                  > > I support your idea of creating such software for stitching video files.
                  > > There are more and more cameras and people try to use 360-degree rigs of
                  > > cameras but they don't want to spend much time on synchronizing and
                  > > stitching videos frame by frame. They need this software.
                  > >
                  > > Please have a look to my recent project:
                  > > http://www.themiloshcompass.com
                  > >
                  > > It includes 52 video panoramas that were created using a 360-degree rig
                  > > and there was no time to stitch videos correctly.
                  > > What do you think about this project?
                  > >
                  > > Good luck, Nicolas.
                  > >
                  > > Karol Kwiatek
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --
                  > L.D.I. Felipe B. González C.
                  > felipe@...
                  > 1998-5246
                  > www.fpk.com.mx
                  > http://recorridosvirtuales.wordpress.com/<http://recorridosvirtualesmexico.blogspot.com/>
                  >
                  > Socio Director Maquetas Virtuales www.maquetasvirtuales.com
                  > Socio Director Recorridos Virtuales www.recorridosvirtuales.com
                  >



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                • nburtey
                  ... Hi Luca, I m not sure about the need to see my work for this survey, but here it is : www.nicolasburtey.net www.loop-in.com Best regards, Nicolas
                  Message 8 of 16 , Jun 3, 2012
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                    > Please, share a ling of your company, works etc.

                    Hi Luca,

                    I'm not sure about the need to see my work for this survey, but here it is :

                    www.nicolasburtey.net
                    www.loop-in.com

                    Best regards,
                    Nicolas
                  • nburtey
                    Hi Karol, Same for me, the video does not load :-( Maybe you could try krpano instead of Lucid ? Regards, Nicolas
                    Message 9 of 16 , Jun 3, 2012
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                      Hi Karol,

                      Same for me, the video does not load :-(

                      Maybe you could try krpano instead of Lucid ?

                      Regards,
                      Nicolas

                      --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panometr" <k_kwiatek@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > This is the correct link:
                      > http://www.themiloszcompass.com/
                      >
                      > What do you think about this project?
                      >
                      > Karol Kwiatek, Poland
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, L.D.I. Felipe B. González <felipe@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > Karol,
                      > >
                      > > I can´t see your site.
                      > >
                      > > Best regards from Mexico
                      > >
                      > > 2012/6/1 panometr <k_kwiatek@>
                      > >
                      > > > **
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Nicolas,
                      > > >
                      > > > I support your idea of creating such software for stitching video files.
                      > > > There are more and more cameras and people try to use 360-degree rigs of
                      > > > cameras but they don't want to spend much time on synchronizing and
                      > > > stitching videos frame by frame. They need this software.
                      > > >
                      > > > Please have a look to my recent project:
                      > > > http://www.themiloshcompass.com
                      > > >
                      > > > It includes 52 video panoramas that were created using a 360-degree rig
                      > > > and there was no time to stitch videos correctly.
                      > > > What do you think about this project?
                      > > >
                      > > > Good luck, Nicolas.
                      > > >
                      > > > Karol Kwiatek
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > --
                      > > L.D.I. Felipe B. González C.
                      > > felipe@
                      > > 1998-5246
                      > > www.fpk.com.mx
                      > > http://recorridosvirtuales.wordpress.com/<http://recorridosvirtualesmexico.blogspot.com/>
                      > >
                      > > Socio Director Maquetas Virtuales www.maquetasvirtuales.com
                      > > Socio Director Recorridos Virtuales www.recorridosvirtuales.com
                      > >
                      >
                    • panometr
                      Hi, Thanks for your comments. There is a problem with new version of Flash Player and Lucid Viewer. Adobe released new Flash Player and there is a problem with
                      Message 10 of 16 , Jun 4, 2012
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                        Hi,

                        Thanks for your comments.
                        There is a problem with new version of Flash Player and Lucid Viewer.
                        Adobe released new Flash Player and there is a problem with playing FLV files. Jason Villmer, the author of Lucid Viewer, has not corrected this issue for many months. Updates for Lucid Viewer appear a few times a year. I agree that this is not the right software for such applications.

                        Could you please try this website with Flash 11.1?
                        www.themiloszcompass.com
                        I noticed that there are problems that you mentioned in Flash 11.2 and 11.3.
                        360films should start playing automatically when you choose a title of a poem from the menu.

                        Here are my answers to Blochi's questions:


                        > I'm not really sure what the project is about. Is it art?

                        Yes, art project.

                        >
                        > Well, since you're asking about opinions, here are some thoughts:
                        > - The seams are extremely obvious. I recommend exposure using exposure correction of the sectors.

                        I have not recorded 360videos, they were created by the artist from Paris. He has a 360rig of eight cameras. He did not intended to stitch videos because he was not aware of such software.
                        He could use it when Nicolas's software is available.

                        > - Videos should better be streaming.

                        Try playing in Flash 11.1, not in 11.2, 11.3, 11.4beta

                        > - If you can't stream, I recommend shorter looping pieces to limit loading time.

                        See above.

                        > - The mirror effect is too heavy and works against the feeling of immersion.

                        I disagree.

                        > - Fonts on the site are very small. I can't read anything.

                        That was the intention of the artist. My task was to do all the coding in XML.

                        > - I was waiting for something to happen, but the scene I tried was just a low resolution video where nothing moves. Would be more efficient to use a mashup-technique to combine static photos with moving inserts.

                        What is mashup-technique?

                        > - Sound is extremely loud.

                        Do other people also agree?

                        > - The player hijacks my mouse pointer, but with a different sensitivity. It's very hard to click outside the browser.

                        This is the issue of Flash 11.2, 11.3, 11.4. Try in 11.1 or lower.

                        I am waiting for further comments.

                        Karol Kwiatek
                      • panovrx
                        Ryubin s video player is pretty good I think -- and it has lots and lots of input format options http://www.ryubin.com/panolab/panoflash/download.html ... the
                        Message 11 of 16 , Jun 4, 2012
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                          Ryubin's video player is pretty good I think -- and it has lots and lots of input format options
                          http://www.ryubin.com/panolab/panoflash/download.html
                          ... the main drawback is like some other video pano players you have to wait til the movie is all downloaded before it becomes smooth but the image quality and navigation smoothness then is very good I think .. a timelapse video panorama of mine with it
                          http://www.mediavr.com/ch364/ch360d.htm

                          btw re video panoramas with CanonDSLRs -- there is a feature in more recent versions of Magic Lantern firmware so alternate video frames can be at different ISOs. eg. 100ISO/800ISO. So the movie flickers light/dark. There is software and workflows to extract the light/dark movies and warp align them to mitigate the time gap (1/30th or 1/60th sec) between the movies. So you can make HDR videos -- good for panoramic video contrast problems you would think.

                          PeterM

                          --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panometr" <k_kwiatek@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Hi,
                          >
                          > Thanks for your comments.
                          > There is a problem with new version of Flash Player and Lucid Viewer.
                          > Adobe released new Flash Player and there is a problem with playing FLV files. Jason Villmer, the author of Lucid Viewer, has not corrected this issue for many months. Updates for Lucid Viewer appear a few times a year. I agree that this is not the right software for such applications.
                          >
                          > Could you please try this website with Flash 11.1?
                          > www.themiloszcompass.com
                          > I noticed that there are problems that you mentioned in Flash 11.2 and 11.3.
                          > 360films should start playing automatically when you choose a title of a poem from the menu.
                          >
                          > Here are my answers to Blochi's questions:
                          >
                          >
                          > > I'm not really sure what the project is about. Is it art?
                          >
                          > Yes, art project.
                          >
                          > >
                          > > Well, since you're asking about opinions, here are some thoughts:
                          > > - The seams are extremely obvious. I recommend exposure using exposure correction of the sectors.
                          >
                          > I have not recorded 360videos, they were created by the artist from Paris. He has a 360rig of eight cameras. He did not intended to stitch videos because he was not aware of such software.
                          > He could use it when Nicolas's software is available.
                          >
                          > > - Videos should better be streaming.
                          >
                          > Try playing in Flash 11.1, not in 11.2, 11.3, 11.4beta
                          >
                          > > - If you can't stream, I recommend shorter looping pieces to limit loading time.
                          >
                          > See above.
                          >
                          > > - The mirror effect is too heavy and works against the feeling of immersion.
                          >
                          > I disagree.
                          >
                          > > - Fonts on the site are very small. I can't read anything.
                          >
                          > That was the intention of the artist. My task was to do all the coding in XML.
                          >
                          > > - I was waiting for something to happen, but the scene I tried was just a low resolution video where nothing moves. Would be more efficient to use a mashup-technique to combine static photos with moving inserts.
                          >
                          > What is mashup-technique?
                          >
                          > > - Sound is extremely loud.
                          >
                          > Do other people also agree?
                          >
                          > > - The player hijacks my mouse pointer, but with a different sensitivity. It's very hard to click outside the browser.
                          >
                          > This is the issue of Flash 11.2, 11.3, 11.4. Try in 11.1 or lower.
                          >
                          > I am waiting for further comments.
                          >
                          > Karol Kwiatek
                          >
                        • prague
                          Nicolas,. That is one hell of a portfolio you have got. It looks like you are very busy shooting great projects. Congratulations on your continuing success.
                          Message 12 of 16 , Jun 4, 2012
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                            Nicolas,.

                            That is one hell of a portfolio you have got. It looks like you are very busy shooting great projects. Congratulations on your continuing success. Really, wow :)



                            Jeffrey

                            --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "nburtey" <nburtey@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > > Please, share a ling of your company, works etc.
                            >
                            > Hi Luca,
                            >
                            > I'm not sure about the need to see my work for this survey, but here it is :
                            >
                            > www.nicolasburtey.net
                            > www.loop-in.com
                            >
                            > Best regards,
                            > Nicolas
                            >
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