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  • panovrx
    What can panoramists do with this: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2888/black-magic-design-announces-revolutionary-2.5k-camera-for-2995 Canon EF
    Message 1 of 5 , Apr 17, 2012
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      What can panoramists do with this:
      http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2888/black-magic-design-announces-revolutionary-2.5k-camera-for-2995
      Canon EF mount (or Zeiss ZF aka Nikon?)
      Crop factor is maybe 2.5X -- so what HFOV from a 8-15mm Canon say
      A use finally for the 4.5mm Sigma perhaps
      The critical thing for my dreams for a Canon mount Raw video camera like this is how much rolling shutter it has. Is it a new gen CMOSIS global shutter sensor. Then you can stabilise fisheye footage perfectly -- without residual rolling shutter waviness. Finally perfect transition movies.

      PeterM
    • luca vascon
      Oh yes!! And fully awesome panovideos too!!! ... I was wandering how 4.5mm Sigma behaves on an hacked GH2 or on a PEN too. Have to try it!!! ... -- Luca
      Message 2 of 5 , Apr 21, 2012
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        Oh yes!! And fully awesome panovideos too!!!
        :-D
        I was wandering how 4.5mm Sigma behaves on an hacked GH2 or on a PEN too.
        Have to try it!!!

        Il giorno 17 aprile 2012 12:46, panovrx <panovrx@...> ha scritto:
        What can panoramists do with this:
        http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2888/black-magic-design-announces-revolutionary-2.5k-camera-for-2995
        Canon EF mount (or Zeiss ZF aka Nikon?)
        Crop factor is maybe 2.5X -- so what HFOV from a 8-15mm Canon say
        A use finally for the 4.5mm Sigma perhaps
        The critical thing for my dreams for a Canon mount Raw video camera like this is how much rolling shutter it has. Is it a new gen CMOSIS global shutter sensor. Then you can stabilise fisheye footage perfectly -- without residual rolling shutter waviness. Finally perfect transition movies.

        PeterM




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      • panovrx
        It looks like the Blackmagic Cinema Camera (BCC) will start shipping in the next week or two.
        Message 3 of 5 , Aug 25, 2012
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          It looks like the Blackmagic Cinema Camera (BCC) will start shipping in the next week or two.

          http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/is-the-new-blackmagic-cinema-camera-the-hdslr-killer
          This article has interesting images showing the crop factor of the BCC with the 8-15mm Canon fisheye. (in the Crop Factor section about a quarter of the way down the page). He argues the crop factor varies from 1.2X to 2.5X as the lens is zoomed from 8mm to 15mm. And the equivalent focal lengths for a full frame camera are then 10mm to 37mm. If that analysis is correct that is a very useful range of full frame fisheye focal lengths. One issue with that lens for the BCC is that it only takes rear gelatine filters so standard glass ND filters can't be used. The BCC has a limited shutter speed range (1/25 to 1/180th I think) so this ND filter issue is a significant operational restriction for that lens on the BCC. It would be interesting maybe to test how much the resolution falls off as the lens is stopped right down.

          If you want to see some DNG sequences from the camera you can download them here
          http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15
          (the links are the text line (zip file name) above the stills from the video).

          The resolution of the camera for DNG output is 2432x1366. So you could shoot an indefinite number of 360 panoramas at say 2400 by 4800 without worrying about shutter life and still have the advantage of raw capture. So for timelapse etc it is interesting for panos I think . Also there are LANC controllers for it so stereo sync for stereo panoramas might be possible. But the physical size of the camera (a little larger overall than a 5D) precludes close range twin camera stereo pano capture (too large a minimum inter lens separation).

          PeterM


          --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, luca vascon <luca.vascon@...> wrote:
          >
          > Oh yes!! And fully awesome panovideos too!!!
          > :-D
          > I was wandering how 4.5mm Sigma behaves on an hacked GH2 or on a PEN too.
          > Have to try it!!!
          >
          > Il giorno 17 aprile 2012 12:46, panovrx <panovrx@...> ha scritto:
          >
          > > What can panoramists do with this:
          > >
          > > http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2888/black-magic-design-announces-revolutionary-2.5k-camera-for-2995
          > > Canon EF mount (or Zeiss ZF aka Nikon?)
          > > Crop factor is maybe 2.5X -- so what HFOV from a 8-15mm Canon say
          > > A use finally for the 4.5mm Sigma perhaps
          > > The critical thing for my dreams for a Canon mount Raw video camera like
          > > this is how much rolling shutter it has. Is it a new gen CMOSIS global
          > > shutter sensor. Then you can stabilise fisheye footage perfectly -- without
          > > residual rolling shutter waviness. Finally perfect transition movies.
          > >
          > > PeterM
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
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        • luca vascon
          No, no way. 2.5X. The article is misleading and not well done. 2012/8/25 panovrx ... -- Luca Vascon. -- www.lucavascon.net Questa è la mia
          Message 4 of 5 , Aug 30, 2012
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            No, no way. 2.5X.
            The article is misleading and not well done.

            2012/8/25 panovrx <mediavr@...>
            It looks like the Blackmagic Cinema Camera (BCC) will start shipping in the next week or two.

            http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/is-the-new-blackmagic-cinema-camera-the-hdslr-killer
             This article has interesting images showing the crop factor of the BCC with the 8-15mm Canon fisheye. (in the Crop Factor section about a quarter of the way down the page). He argues the crop factor varies from 1.2X to 2.5X as the lens is zoomed from 8mm to 15mm. And the equivalent focal lengths for a full frame camera are then 10mm to 37mm. If that analysis is correct that is a very useful range of full frame fisheye focal lengths. One issue with that lens for the BCC is that it only takes rear gelatine filters so standard glass ND filters can't be used. The BCC has a limited shutter speed range (1/25 to 1/180th I think) so this ND filter issue is a significant operational restriction for that lens on the BCC. It would be interesting maybe to test how much the resolution falls off as the lens is stopped right down.

            If you want to see some DNG sequences from the camera you can download them here
            http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15
            (the links are the text line (zip file name) above the stills from the video).

            The resolution of the camera for DNG output is 2432x1366. So you could shoot an indefinite number of 360 panoramas at say 2400 by 4800 without worrying about shutter life and still have the advantage of raw capture. So for timelapse etc it is interesting for panos I think . Also there are LANC controllers for it so stereo sync for stereo panoramas might be possible. But the physical size of the camera (a little larger overall than a 5D) precludes close range twin camera stereo pano capture (too large a minimum inter lens separation).

            PeterM


            --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, luca vascon <luca.vascon@...> wrote:
            >
            > Oh yes!! And fully awesome panovideos too!!!
            > :-D
            > I was wandering how 4.5mm Sigma behaves on an hacked GH2 or on a PEN too.
            > Have to try it!!!
            >
            > Il giorno 17 aprile 2012 12:46, panovrx <panovrx@...> ha scritto:
            >
            > > What can panoramists do with this:
            > >
            > > http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2888/black-magic-design-announces-revolutionary-2.5k-camera-for-2995
            > > Canon EF mount (or Zeiss ZF aka Nikon?)
            > > Crop factor is maybe 2.5X -- so what HFOV from a 8-15mm Canon say
            > > A use finally for the 4.5mm Sigma perhaps
            > > The critical thing for my dreams for a Canon mount Raw video camera like
            > > this is how much rolling shutter it has. Is it a new gen CMOSIS global
            > > shutter sensor. Then you can stabilise fisheye footage perfectly -- without
            > > residual rolling shutter waviness. Finally perfect transition movies.
            > >
            > > PeterM
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > ------------------------------------
            > >
            > > --
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
            >
            > --
            > Luca Vascon.
            >
            > www.nuovostudio.it
            > www.officinepanottiche.com
            >




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          • panovrx
            Black Magic have announced they will be releasing a manual lens Micro Four Thirds version of the Black Magic Cinema Camera in December. So you will have more
            Message 5 of 5 , Sep 7, 2012
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              Black Magic have announced they will be releasing a manual lens Micro Four Thirds version of the Black Magic Cinema Camera in December.
              So you will have more choice with this with shooting fisheye views than with the EF version. But the EF version will give you focus indication and aperture control on the screen. And maybe down the track image stabilisation with IS Canon lenses.



              >>We have also been working on a Passive Micro Four Thirds model of the camera. People have been asking for this as there are a lot of nice high end manually operated MFT lenses on the market, and the MFT mount can also be easily adapted to PL and other lens mounts using third party adapters.

              The new Blackmagic Cinema Camera MFT is expected to ship in December, and will be the same price as the original model. It's identical in features as they are both the same camera, just with different lens mounts. The price will also be the same at $2,995. We will be working with our dealers to help people change their orders if they want.>>

              PeterM


              --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, "panovrx" <mediavr@...> wrote:
              >
              > It looks like the Blackmagic Cinema Camera (BCC) will start shipping in the next week or two.
              >
              > http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/is-the-new-blackmagic-cinema-camera-the-hdslr-killer
              > This article has interesting images showing the crop factor of the BCC with the 8-15mm Canon fisheye. (in the Crop Factor section about a quarter of the way down the page). He argues the crop factor varies from 1.2X to 2.5X as the lens is zoomed from 8mm to 15mm. And the equivalent focal lengths for a full frame camera are then 10mm to 37mm. If that analysis is correct that is a very useful range of full frame fisheye focal lengths. One issue with that lens for the BCC is that it only takes rear gelatine filters so standard glass ND filters can't be used. The BCC has a limited shutter speed range (1/25 to 1/180th I think) so this ND filter issue is a significant operational restriction for that lens on the BCC. It would be interesting maybe to test how much the resolution falls off as the lens is stopped right down.
              >
              > If you want to see some DNG sequences from the camera you can download them here
              > http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15
              > (the links are the text line (zip file name) above the stills from the video).
              >
              > The resolution of the camera for DNG output is 2432x1366. So you could shoot an indefinite number of 360 panoramas at say 2400 by 4800 without worrying about shutter life and still have the advantage of raw capture. So for timelapse etc it is interesting for panos I think . Also there are LANC controllers for it so stereo sync for stereo panoramas might be possible. But the physical size of the camera (a little larger overall than a 5D) precludes close range twin camera stereo pano capture (too large a minimum inter lens separation).
              >
              > PeterM
              >
              >
              > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, luca vascon <luca.vascon@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Oh yes!! And fully awesome panovideos too!!!
              > > :-D
              > > I was wandering how 4.5mm Sigma behaves on an hacked GH2 or on a PEN too.
              > > Have to try it!!!
              > >
              > > Il giorno 17 aprile 2012 12:46, panovrx <panovrx@> ha scritto:
              > >
              > > > What can panoramists do with this:
              > > >
              > > > http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2888/black-magic-design-announces-revolutionary-2.5k-camera-for-2995
              > > > Canon EF mount (or Zeiss ZF aka Nikon?)
              > > > Crop factor is maybe 2.5X -- so what HFOV from a 8-15mm Canon say
              > > > A use finally for the 4.5mm Sigma perhaps
              > > > The critical thing for my dreams for a Canon mount Raw video camera like
              > > > this is how much rolling shutter it has. Is it a new gen CMOSIS global
              > > > shutter sensor. Then you can stabilise fisheye footage perfectly -- without
              > > > residual rolling shutter waviness. Finally perfect transition movies.
              > > >
              > > > PeterM
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > ------------------------------------
              > > >
              > > > --
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > >
              > >
              > > --
              > > Luca Vascon.
              > >
              > > www.nuovostudio.it
              > > www.officinepanottiche.com
              > >
              >
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