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  • Christoph Lueken
    Dear all, I got an email from someone who found some of my panoramas on the site called Panovision from Ukraine. They stole my panoramas and published them
    Message 1 of 11 , Aug 10, 2011
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      Dear all,

      I got an email from someone who found some of my panoramas on the
      site called 'Panovision' from Ukraine.

      They stole my panoramas and published them on their site without
      my permission. Someone called Vitaliy even put his name as author.

      My original panorama:

      http://www.emirates-panorama.com/index1.php?datei=dubai_20081108_01®ion=Palm+Jumeirah&version=krpano&player=auto

      Link to Panovision:

      http://panovision.com.ua/110-panoramnoe-obozrenie-dubai.html

      (click on the panorama to find 10 of my panoramas from my website)

      Does anyone know this company 'Panovision' or this person called
      Vitaliy?

      Best regards,
      Chris
      www.emirates-panorama.com
    • A Kielcz
      Sorry to see it, but it will be hard to get to him in Ukraine. You can try to contact their copyright offices in Kiev. However, I don t know how. Maybe,
      Message 2 of 11 , Aug 10, 2011
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        Sorry to see it, but it will be hard to get to him in Ukraine. You can try to contact their copyright offices in Kiev. However, I don't know how. Maybe, through their Embassy.
         
        A Kielcz
        Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A.


        ________________________________
        From: Christoph Lueken <stoffel61@...>
        To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:01 PM
        Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Panovision stole 10 of my panoramas


         
        Dear all,

        I got an email from someone who found some of my panoramas on the
        site called 'Panovision' from Ukraine.

        They stole my panoramas and published them on their site without
        my permission. Someone called Vitaliy even put his name as author.

        My original panorama:

        http://www.emirates-panorama.com/index1.php?datei=dubai_20081108_01®ion=Palm+Jumeirah&version=krpano&player=auto

        Link to Panovision:

        http://panovision.com.ua/110-panoramnoe-obozrenie-dubai.html

        (click on the panorama to find 10 of my panoramas from my website)

        Does anyone know this company 'Panovision' or this person called
        Vitaliy?

        Best regards,
        Chris
        www.emirates-panorama.com




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      • Will Pearson
        Hi Chris It s annoying when this happens but you should be able to have the content removed fairly quickly, (1 - 24 hours). It s a big issue to knowingly
        Message 3 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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          Hi Chris

          It's annoying when this happens but you should be able to have the content removed fairly quickly, (1 - 24 hours). It's a big issue to knowingly distribute copyright material, by emailing their upstream or 'state of authority' clearly showing they have stolen your content they must act quickly and remove the content (this is their legal obligation). From our experience the upstream will usually disable the whole site while the matter is resolved. Don't bother writing to panovision they will just waste your time and energy.

          "To determine who the web hosting provider is, you can use a publicly-available tool like http://www.kloth.net/services/nslookup.php. This tool will give you the resolving IP address which can then be compared to ARIN.net's (http://www.arin.net) IP allocation database. This will give you the relevant information for the true hosting provider."

          I hope this helps.


          Will



          On 10 Aug 2011, at 18:01, Christoph Lueken wrote:

          > Dear all,
          >
          > I got an email from someone who found some of my panoramas on the
          > site called 'Panovision' from Ukraine.
          >
          > They stole my panoramas and published them on their site without
          > my permission. Someone called Vitaliy even put his name as author.
          >
          > My original panorama:
          >
          > http://www.emirates-panorama.com/index1.php?datei=dubai_20081108_01®ion=Palm+Jumeirah&version=krpano&player=auto
          >
          > Link to Panovision:
          >
          > http://panovision.com.ua/110-panoramnoe-obozrenie-dubai.html
          >
          > (click on the panorama to find 10 of my panoramas from my website)
          >
          > Does anyone know this company 'Panovision' or this person called
          > Vitaliy?
          >
          > Best regards,
          > Chris
          > www.emirates-panorama.com
          >
          >



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        • GTG Vierstra
          This also may help: http://www.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=ts.cs&ts=1114905 (need a google account to report it) ... -- best regards, G.T.G. Vierstra
          Message 4 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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            This also may help:

            http://www.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=ts.cs&ts=1114905

            (need a google account to report it)



            On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 19:01, Christoph Lueken <stoffel61@...> wrote:
            > Dear all,
            >
            > I got an email from someone who found some of my panoramas on the
            > site called 'Panovision' from Ukraine.



            --
            best regards,

            G.T.G. Vierstra
          • GTG Vierstra
            Oh, it looks like its hosted at http://domen.com.ua/ You could mail them.... -- best regards, G.T.G. Vierstra
            Message 5 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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              Oh, it looks like its hosted at http://domen.com.ua/

              You could mail them....

              --
              best regards,

              G.T.G. Vierstra
            • Scott Highton
              An English translation of the panovision.com.ua contact page offers the following. Good luck with your efforts. Scott Highton Author, Virtual Reality
              Message 6 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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                An English translation of the panovision.com.ua contact page offers
                the following. Good luck with your efforts.


                Scott Highton
                Author, Virtual Reality Photography
                Web: http://www.vrphotography.com




                -------------------------------------
                (From panovision.com.ua)


                The cost of our work includes:


                1. Our professional photographer will go to your place and take
                professional pictures using the technology of panoramic photography.

                (Kiev and Kharkov).


                2. Creating Virtual Tour by our specialists.


                3. Making the presentation of virtual tour for placing it on
                customer�s Web-pages or CD-presentations.


                4. Placing virtual tour on the Portal site www.panovision.com.ua, with
                indicating the characteristics and layout of the site and contact
                information of the owner.


                5. Giving the client the direct link to the virtual tour (in the
                format www.panovision.com.ua/id-12345) for indication in commercial
                texts placed in print and mass-media.

                Representative Office in Kiev (we are working in Ukraine):
                Alexander. 38067466 23 44 38 097 33 11 259
                e-mail: alex@...

                Vitaliy+38 097 9292959 +38 057 752 72 30 (in Ukraine and worldwide)

                e-mail: vs@...
                e-mail: panovision@...

                Technical Department:
                e-mail: support@...

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              • Peter A. Schaible
                Please see this earlier post: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/42569 Also, to discover who is stealing your images, check out:
                Message 7 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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                  Please see this earlier post:

                  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/42569

                  Also, to discover who is stealing your images, check out:

                  http://www.tineye.com/

                  Best,

                  --
                  --Peter

                  Peter A. Schaible
                • Mark D. Fink
                  I m more than a little hesitant to upload one of my images, particularly one that I m very concerned about being copied and used by others, to this site. Does
                  Message 8 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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                    I'm more than a little hesitant to upload one of my images, particularly one
                    that I'm very concerned about being copied and used by others, to this site.
                    Does anyone know how safe it is to upload to tineye.com? What's to stop them
                    from distributing the image to others for unlicensed use? Or am I just being
                    paranoid...

                    Mark

                    www.northernlight.net
                    www.virtual-travels.com
                    www.pinnacle-vr.com

                    > -----Original Message-----
                    > From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On
                    > Behalf Of Peter A. Schaible
                    > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:55 PM
                    > To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
                    > Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Panovision stole 10 of my panoramas
                    >
                    > Please see this earlier post:
                    >
                    > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/42569
                    >
                    > Also, to discover who is stealing your images, check out:
                    >
                    > http://www.tineye.com/
                    >
                    > Best,
                    >
                    > --
                    > --Peter
                    >
                    > Peter A. Schaible
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > ------------------------------------
                    >
                    > --
                    >
                    >
                    >
                  • mrjimbo
                    Mark, Might as well relax.. Once it s out there it pretty difficult to stop someone from taking the image if they really want it. That is presently where it s
                    Message 9 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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                      Mark,
                      Might as well relax.. Once it's out there it pretty difficult to stop someone from taking the image if they really want it. That is presently where it's at.. I can't speak for Tinyeye or their ethics but once something is posted anywhere it's pretty much available to anyone that really wants it.. At times skill levels come into play in so far as getting around the common detours. The only thing that really works is to put something big and ugly right in the image..then they don't want it... that's not typically done for a pano.. The hardest part is finding the image.. The plus to a pano is that it will be typically used on line rather then a regular print or ??.. I guess you have to get past your fear and go for it.. Their are services with spiders that will find your image if it's used on line anywhere.. actually works quite well but it's a service so has a price. If you have an image anywhere they can usually track it down for you in about a week. amazing actually.. but all they do is tell you..Then you have to do something about it.

                      jimbo
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: Mark D. Fink
                      To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:37 PM
                      Subject: RE: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Panovision stole 10 of my panoramas



                      I'm more than a little hesitant to upload one of my images, particularly one
                      that I'm very concerned about being copied and used by others, to this site.
                      Does anyone know how safe it is to upload to tineye.com? What's to stop them
                      from distributing the image to others for unlicensed use? Or am I just being
                      paranoid...

                      Mark

                      www.northernlight.net
                      www.virtual-travels.com
                      www.pinnacle-vr.com

                      > -----Original Message-----
                      > From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On
                      > Behalf Of Peter A. Schaible
                      > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:55 PM
                      > To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
                      > Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Panovision stole 10 of my panoramas
                      >
                      > Please see this earlier post:
                      >
                      > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/message/42569
                      >
                      > Also, to discover who is stealing your images, check out:
                      >
                      > http://www.tineye.com/
                      >
                      > Best,
                      >
                      > --
                      > --Peter
                      >
                      > Peter A. Schaible
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > ------------------------------------
                      >
                      > --
                      >
                      >
                      >





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                    • Scott Witte
                      Not certain if it will work when hosted on a site you don t control, but if you work with FPP you can secure your images and everything else using Pano Cocoon
                      Message 10 of 11 , Aug 11, 2011
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                        Not certain if it will work when hosted on a site you don't control, but
                        if you work with FPP you can secure your images and everything else
                        using Pano Cocoon <http://flashificator.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=20>.

                        Scott

                        On 8/11/2011 1:37 PM, Mark D. Fink wrote:
                        > I'm more than a little hesitant to upload one of my images, particularly one
                        > that I'm very concerned about being copied and used by others, to this site.
                        > Does anyone know how safe it is to upload to tineye.com? What's to stop them
                        > from distributing the image to others for unlicensed use? Or am I just being
                        > paranoid...
                        >

                        --
                        Scott Witte

                        <http://www.scottwitte.com>
                        <http://www.tourdeforce360.com>
                        414.345.9660
                        Member, IVRPA



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                      • Roger Howard
                        On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mark D. Fink ... Just saw this - a little late, I know, but I wanted to respond. How safe is TinEye? Very. They are a
                        Message 11 of 11 , Aug 16, 2011
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                          On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mark D. Fink
                          <markdfink@...>wrote:

                          > **
                          >
                          >
                          > I'm more than a little hesitant to upload one of my images, particularly
                          > one
                          > that I'm very concerned about being copied and used by others, to this
                          > site.
                          > Does anyone know how safe it is to upload to tineye.com? What's to stop
                          > them
                          > from distributing the image to others for unlicensed use? Or am I just
                          > being
                          > paranoid...
                          >

                          Just saw this - a little late, I know, but I wanted to respond.

                          How safe is TinEye? Very. They are a respected company (the company itself
                          is Idée, based in Toronto) in the content-based indexing world, with a real
                          presence, real employees, and a real market. Nice people, too. They sell
                          their technology - search tools - into markets that are extraordinarily
                          sensitive about their material - from three-letter agencies to Hollywood and
                          many points in between - and would not risk their reputation to pilfer some
                          thumbnails.

                          I know, there are many fly-by-night, shady operations on the Web. Just
                          wanted to chime in to say that TinEye/Idée isn't one of them. They have
                          phenomenal technology, based on real R&D.

                          Cheers -R


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