RE: [PanoToolsNG] Ideas for next cameras
- Though the article does mention "without clipping" I think it's still bunk.
You expose for the tonality you are trying to achieve - the result, not some
In that nature, everyone should dial their cameras to manual and hot glue it
From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fabio Bustamante
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Ideas for next cameras
Mark, thanks for your link. That's an interesting theory... but I'm not
sure about it's practical application.
Exposing To The Right usually means longer exposure times (you don't
want your DOF to be messed up by ETTR). Now, longer exposure times (in
my photography) it's not exactly the kind of luxury I always have
available. Many times I find myself on the edge of handheld shooting and
even on a tripod, going from 1s to 3s for the sake of ETTR could easily
introduce unwanted exagerated motion blur (from people, cars, trees,
whatever). Usually in these situations we consciously exchange exposure
times by noise by increasing ISO.
In fact, if I have practical room for 2 stops of longer exposure for the
ETTR, I could just go from ISO 400 to 100, which gives me a great
improvement in noise as well. So the greatest application of ETTR would
be in situations of medium to dark scenes, with medium to very low
dynamic range, under ISO 100 and only if the user has room for 1 or 2
stops of longer exposure without compromising the shot (otherwise the
user will prefer higher noise).
In real world my issues with noise happen in problematic, low light
situations like shooting a party, a band show etc. In these situations I
go for very high - and noisy - ISO exactly because I need practical
exposure times. So even if the scene has a minimum dynamic range, it
makes no sense my camera making much longer exposures for the sake of a
Did I get it all wrong?
Em 02/08/2011 08:51, Mark D. Fink escreveu:
> Hi Fabio,[mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> I would point them to this recent article in Luminous Landscape:
> Thanks for passing this along!
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Behalf Of Fabio Bustamante[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:12 PM
>> To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Ideas for next cameras
>> Hi everyone, how are you doing?
>> Recently I was contacted by a brazilian consulting company that wanned
>> to talk to photographers. It turns out they were working together with
>> Nomura Research Institute (http://www.nri.co.jp/english/) a consulting
>> company doing some research for Japanese companies related to
>> professional photography - he mentioned Canon and Nikon.
>> We talked today (with the help of a translator for the guy from NRI
>> spoke japanese) and although they were interested in the particularities
>> of the brazilian market, we also talked about equipment, and among other
>> things they asked what kind of features I missed on my DSLR.
>> I listed a few things that I miss the most (I mentioned better
>> bracketing programming and full featured wireless remote control), but I
>> also mentioned this group and that I would ask the question here too. So
>> those of you who don't mind, feel free to share your thoughts and
>> suggestions and I'll compile a list and send to them.
>> I have no idea of what may come out of it, but at least I think there's
>> a good chance that our ideas and requests will reach the right people
>> inside camera manufacturers.
- Am 03.08.2011 04:39, schrieb Sacha Griffin:
> Though the article does mention "without clipping" I think it's still bunk.Sorry to disagree. The article is about how to get the biggest available
> You expose for the tonality you are trying to achieve - the result, not some
> semi-mathematical system.
dynamic range and provide best tonality. There are even ideas discussed
how to handle this transparently for the photographer, such that the
image looks "normal" by default.
Basically it describes a way how to store an image optimally, not how to
display it. Remeber, you can't view a raw image directly, you always
need to interpret it. The way this is done currently is suboptimal.