Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Future of VR Panoramas - WAS: Apple dropped QTVR
- On Jan 31, 2011, at 1:24 AM, prague wrote:
> Yeah come on Don, give us a bit of credit. We're at least a 60-pound gorilla at this point :-)Of course! I didn't mean to belittle your efforts and the success of 360Cities in promoting VR and making it accessible. Many people will stumble upon panoramas now while cruising around in Google Earth - people who would never go looking for it (partly because they don't know what to call it). Too bad that Panoramio confuses the nomenclature.
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Erik Krause <erik.krause@...> wrote:
> > Ask in the right place - in Google Earth - and you get the panoramas at
Also we are seeing panoramas in FaceBook and on WordPress sites, it is all adding up.
The gorilla I was talking about is the sort of overwhelmingly large and powerful company that can support a technology (remember we were talking about delivery of VR) and let us ride along on their coat-tails as content producers.
There aren't many of those beasts out there - IBM has gone elsewhere, Microsoft is in a coma, Apple has turned its back on us, Google has their own version of VR, Macromedia was swallowed by Adobe, and Adobe doesn't seem to know about us.
The danger is that one of the gorillas may delay or even wreck the standards compliance that is a necessary part of this. Luckily we are steadily approaching a "balance of power" where no one browser dominates and support for standards may actually be an asset.
PS- A 60 lb gorilla is just a kid. You might have more fun as a full-grown bonobo.
(Caution, adult content!)
- My opinion is that we need to be exact with the use of terms. We know many types
of panoramas from the geographical point of view, as social, economic, cultural
panoramas. My daughters study music so they are familiar with musical panoramas…
I am working with the physical geography and GIS and panorama means for me a
visual perception of a landscape or a region. It is true; term panorama became
popular when geographers started with crocs which represented the surrounding
landscapes, often with 360°. That sketches were named panorama. Panorama is
truly worldwide expression and recognizable in most of the modern languages.
From that point of view I have no problem with using that term even in small
rooms (even not logical in some cases of use…). So… panorama (not a vista as
insitu view) is a flat 2D picture, photography of the landscape (urban or rural)
or »other« scapes. Interactive panorama is something what we can move or is with
hotspots. That what we do is the presentation of that flat 2D: paint, image,
sketch, photography which represents panorama, on the screen. That presentation
is with the projection algorithm which makes a mental illusion of the
surrounding image like to be there. If someone say 360° panorama I can't be
sure: is that a print or screen projection? Same is with interactive panorama –
is it only interactive picture or is the illusion of the surrounding? With term
Spherical panorama is same…is it a print, projection? What about cylinders?
(Most of my panoramas from mountain tops are cylinders).
But all is with the agreement and the consensuns with the use of terms. Let’s
use something what is already recognizable but be exact: flat is flat and
projection is a projection… Last decade I used term 360° panorama for a flat
image like prints and Virtual Reality panorama for a projection of that same
image on the screen.
From: Don Bain <dbain@...>
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 3:52:33 AM
Subject: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Future of VR Panoramas - WAS: Apple dropped QTVR
> VRPIP is in use - it stands for Internet Protocol, as well as Intellectual
I use pano all the time also, but only when conversing with someone already
familiar with the concept.
Virtual Tour is also in use - follow a few links and you will find mostly
collections of still images, only a few VR panoramas.
To me, it isn't a tour unless it is linked nodes, with hotspots or a
floorplan/map. How can it be a tour if it is just from one place?
VR panorama, 360 panorama, interactive panorama - they all work.
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