Re: [PanoToolsNG] Going to Kuwait? Be prepared
- Sorry, I came off a little more negative than intended. I was mainly referring to television "journalists" and primarily the U.S. The only ones who have impressed me lately are Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow. AC's recent respectful, informed dismantling of the "birther" State House Representative from Texas was really something to behold. AC had actually done his research and knew his facts cold. Maddow has also done outstanding work in her interviews with Rand Paul and Art Robinson. None of this "we have to show both sides of the story to be balanced" nonsense that has taken hold in nearly all televised news infotainment. Even the comedian newsman Jon Stewart is far more informed and informative than the majority of straight news presenters. There are still a LOT of print journalists doing terrific work, but, sadly, that is an industry in rapid decline.
On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Keith Martin wrote:
> I'd agree that this is pretty definitely off topic. Not to mention
> being just a tiny bit insulting. Some reporters are shockingly lazy,
> ignorant and biased, but please don't believe that describes all
> journalists. That's like declaring all photographers to be papparazzi.
> k - technical editor (i.e. a form of journalist)
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Am 04.12.2010 07:15, schrieb AYRTON:
> do you all know, that our Keith has left the List ????Yes, it's a real shame! And I feel especially ashamed as a moderator of
> This is BAD !!!
> Why waste time discussing things that are not directly related to
> and ... insulting others just because some people think they're funny, very
> f... funny
> This really makes me very mad !
> SHAME ! ! !
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