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Re: [PanoToolsNG] Apple and Flash - Steve Jobs statement

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  • Fernando Costa Pinto
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10093314.stm They want it ..they get it Fernando Salvador Bahia
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      <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10093314.stm>They want it ..they get
      it

      Fernando
      Salvador Bahia
      Brazil


      On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Ian Wood <panolists@...>wrote:

      >
      >
      > Somehow a large share of the posts on this thread are appearing in my
      > spam folder, which is quite amusing in itself. ;-)
      >
      > On the whole I found the letter well articulated with some good
      > points, but let down by a few glaring bit of vindictiveness - claiming
      > that Adobe was the last major vendor to move over to Cocoa development
      > on the Mac is only true if you choose to ignore iTunes, Final Cut Pro
      > and a few other major Apple apps. Oops.
      >
      > Anyway, on to a few specifics.
      >
      >
      > On 29 Apr 2010, at 17:26, Trausti Hraunfjord wrote:
      >
      > > IF I had iPad/Pod/Phone, I would possibly use Flash (for displaying
      > > panos)
      > > one hour per month... probably much less... it would hardly drain the
      > > battery and leave me stranded. But it would make the device of
      > > increasingly
      > > greater value for me. Since these devices can not display Flash, I
      > > will not
      > > (guaranteed) be purchasing one.
      >
      > The 'full' version of Flash for mobiles is still slated for some time
      > later this year. At this time there is (as far as I know), no way to
      > view a Flash panorama in a browser on ANY mobile phone.
      >
      >
      > > Surely HTML5 will eventually come and be of significant importance,
      > > even run
      > > Flash into the ground... but the fact of today, is that HTML5 is not
      > > on even
      > > 0.5% of the world's browsers today.
      >
      > Firefox and Webkit-based browsers (Safari and Chrome on the desktop)
      > make up about 60% of browser use, although I don't know what
      > proportion of the Firefox users are running a new enough version, or
      > how wide it's support for HTML5 is. Just for some more accurate
      > figures...
      >
      >
      > On 29 Apr 2010, at 17:56, fierodeval wrote:
      >
      > > Excuses, excuses, excuses... if Apple does not want Flash it's
      > > because he do not want an alternative platform to create
      > > Applications for its devices. With Flash enabled in the browser, any
      > > web page could be an application for iPhone and they do not want
      > > this. They want to keep all the control of all applications that run
      > > on the devices, through App Store.
      >
      > That was one of my initial thoughts as well, but there are already
      > HTML5 pages that you can bookmark on an iPhone which will then run
      > with locally-stored info as an application, even without a net
      > connection. So I'm sure that bypassing the App Store is a big issue,
      > but it's already possible to do via HTML5, and Apple provide
      > instructions for developers on how to do so.
      >
      > Anyway, as in one of the earlier threads, at this point my biggest
      > gripe is with the fragmentation of web standards at the moment - HTML5
      > isn't even a standard yet. :-(
      >
      > Ian
      >
      >
      >


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