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Re: Samyang 8mm F stop

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  • Hans
    ... You can try these Nikon D300+Samyang examples and just load them in PTGui and stitch auto. http://gallery.me.com/badders#100279 Hans
    Message 1 of 27 , Dec 22, 2009
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      --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, Paulo Fernandes <paulo.jf@...> wrote:
      >
      > Or before they find out that it was shot with a Canon hehe :P


      You can try these Nikon D300+Samyang examples and just load them in PTGui and stitch auto.
      http://gallery.me.com/badders#100279

      Hans
      >
      > Com os melhores cumprimentos,
      >
      > Paulo Fernandes
      > Multimedia
      >
      > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
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      >
      > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Hans <hans@...> wrote:
      >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, Paulo
      > > Fernandes <paulo.jf@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Nope I shot in Raw, converted to jpeg in ACR.
      > > > Like I said the Samyang doesn't communicate with the camera, so no focal
      > > > length or apperture information in th EXIF only the camera info (Model,
      > > > speed, sensitivity etc).
      > > >
      > > > Rob is already having fun with this set of images ;)
      > >
      > > Yes, PTgui newbies with Nikon will have some fun before they find out how
      > > to optimize it.
      > >
      > >
      > > Hans
      > >
      > > >
      > > > Com os melhores cumprimentos,
      > > >
      > > > Paulo Fernandes
      > > > Multimedia
      > > >
      > > >
      > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > Go Go Pixel - Design, Fotografia e Multimédia
      > > > Calçada do Lidador, 22, 1ºAndar
      > > > 4480-690 Vila do Conde - Portugal
      > > > Tel. +351 252 119 375 - Fax. +351 252 119 375
      > > >
      > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Hans <hans@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com><PanoToolsNG%
      > > 40yahoogroups.com>, Paulo
      > > > > Fernandes <paulo.jf@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Sorry link was giving some problems...
      > > > > > try this one instead....
      > > > > > http://www.gogopixel.org/samyang/Samyang8Canon20D.zip
      > > > >
      > > > > Are this JPG from camera?
      > > > >
      > > > > They behave different as there is no EXIF data for the focal length,
      > > And
      > > > > actually none on aperture either.
      > > > >
      > > > > The D300 gives PTGui 6mm as focal length and that is the big problem.
      > > > >
      > > > > However it seems that PTGui can detect it as a fullframe (shorter than
      > > 16mm
      > > > > according to my pref setup) and that means it sets the circle at the
      > > corner
      > > > > correctly.
      > > > >
      > > > > That you get an optimized value of 9-10.5mm is because of the
      > > stereographic
      > > > > projection which is much different than the standard fisheye projection
      > > we
      > > > > are used to.
      > > > >
      > > > > No stitcher has a setting for this projection so the corrections has to
      > > be
      > > > > made from a normal fisheye projection
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Hans
      > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Com os melhores cumprimentos,
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Paulo Fernandes
      > > > > > Multimedia
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > > Go Go Pixel - Design, Fotografia e Multimédia
      > > > > > Calçada do Lidador, 22, 1ºAndar
      > > > > > 4480-690 Vila do Conde - Portugal
      > > > > > Tel. +351 252 119 375 - Fax. +351 252 119 375
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Paulo Fernandes <paulo.jf@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > > I don't get it,
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > my PTGui version is updated, the thing is, I start with 8mm but
      > > when I
      > > > > > > optimize the project PTGui determines that the lens is in fact a
      > > 9,6mm.
      > > > > I
      > > > > > > think that is turning off the crop and letting me stitch
      > > normally....
      > > > > > > But on a x1,5 crop camera this might not be true,
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Anyhoo, here's the links to the images if anyone wants to try it
      > > out ;)
      > > > > > > http://gogopixel.org/samyang/samyang8Canon20D.zip
      > > > > > > Let me know how it goes...
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Com os melhores cumprimentos,
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Paulo Fernandes
      > > > > > > Multimedia
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > > > Go Go Pixel - Design, Fotografia e Multimédia
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Calçada do Lidador, 22, 1ºAndar
      > > > > > > 4480-690 Vila do Conde - Portugal
      > > > > > > Tel. +351 252 119 375 - Fax. +351 252 119 375
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Hans <hans@> wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com<PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com><PanoToolsNG%
      > > 40yahoogroups.com><PanoToolsNG%
      > >
      > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, Paulo
      > > > >
      > > > > > >> Fernandes <paulo.jf@> wrote:
      > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > It stitched just fine ;) i tried both circular and rectilinear
      > > lens
      > > > > > >> > types and with and without crop (actualy i don't need crop). And
      > > it
      > > > > > >> > allways stitched fine. I'm on a x1,6 crop camera though...
      > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > My blog is down at the moment (htaccess troubles) but I'll share
      > > the
      > > > > > >> > images when it's back up, probably tomorow...
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> Maybe you have an old PTGui version.
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> The current version will set the cropcircle like this when you
      > > import
      > > > > > >> Samyang images (from 300D)
      > > > > > >> http://www.panoramas.dk/panorama/samyang/samyang-crop.jpg
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> This does of course not work. You can only change this by dragging
      > > it
      > > > > to
      > > > > > >> the corners in the crop tab. Changing the focal lenth from 6 to 8
      > > or
      > > > > 10 does
      > > > > > >> not change the circle.
      > > > > > >> However changing the circle to the corners will change the focal
      > > > > length to
      > > > > > >> 10 for an 1.5 APS
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> Hans
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > Com os melhores cumprimentos,
      > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > Paulo Fernandes
      > > > > > >> > Multimedia
      > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > Enviado desde o meu telemóvel.
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> > Sent from my mobile phone.
      > > > > > >> > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > > >> > Go Go Pixel - Design, Fotografia
      > > > > > >> > e Multimédia
      > > > > > >> > Calçada do Lidador, 22, 1ºAndar
      > > > > > >> > 4480-690 Vila do Conde Portugal
      > > > > > >> > Tel. +351 252 119 375
      > > > > > >> > Fax. +351 252 119 375
      > > > > > >> > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > No dia 2009/12/22, Ã s 00:40, "Hans" <hans@> escreveu:
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com<PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com><PanoToolsNG%
      > >
      > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
      > > > >
      > > > > > >> Paulo Fernandes <paulo.jf@>
      > > > > > >> > > wrote:
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > Rob,
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > check the video link,
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > I manualy added 8mm in the lens info, this is only the base
      > > so
      > > > > > >> > > that PTGui
      > > > > > >> > > > has an idea of the images, when we optimize the project it
      > > will
      > > > > > >> > > determine
      > > > > > >> > > > the correct focal lens...
      > > > > > >> > > > Seriously check the video (put it in fullscreen so you can
      > > read
      > > > > the
      > > > > > >> > > > letters).
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > > Paulo
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > > There is something missing in your video.
      > > > > > >> > > You have to change the cropcircle first to the corners of the
      > > > > image.
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > > If you leave it as PTGui sets it as default you do not get a
      > > > > stitch.
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > > PTGui can not change the crop automatically as a result of
      > > setting
      > > > > > >> > > the focal length and the correct focal length for correct
      > > circular
      > > > > > >> > > crop is actually 10mm not 8mm.
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > > Hans
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > @Roger: I know what you mean, I also learned the hard way...
      > > > > LOTS
      > > > > > >> > > of trial
      > > > > > >> > > > and error.... mainly errors....
      > > > > > >> > > > @Luca: Yep and I even managed to do a full sphere with only
      > > 5
      > > > > > >> > > shots ;) 4@-15º
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> > > > and zenith :) I'm very happy with this lens :)
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > Com os melhores cumprimentos,
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > Paulo Fernandes
      > > > > > >> > > > Multimedia
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > :
      > > > > > >> > > :::
      > > > > > >> > > :::
      > > > > > >> > > :::
      > > > > > >> > > :::
      > > > > > >> > > :::
      > > > > > >> > >
      > > > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > > >> > > > Go Go Pixel - Design, Fotografia e Multimédia
      > > > > > >>
      > > > > > >> > > > Calçada do Lidador, 22, 1ºAndar
      > > > > > >> > > > 4480-690 Vila do Conde - Portugal
      > > > > > >> > > > Tel. +351 252 119 375 - Fax. +351 252 119 375
      > > > > > >> > > > :
      > > > > > >> > > :::
      > > > > > >> > > :::
      > > > > > >> > > :::
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      > > > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Hans <hans@> wrote:
      > > > > > >> > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com<PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com><PanoToolsNG
      > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > %40yahoogroups.com>, RobLee
      > > > > > >> > > > > <roblee007@> wrote:
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > I got Samyang, not Bower.
      > > > > > >> > > > > > I forgot about this feature being available on D300. Now
      > > > > lens
      > > > > > >> > > shows
      > > > > > >> > > > > correct aperture in LCD screen also, instead of 1 through
      > > 6.
      > > > > > >> > > However, as to
      > > > > > >> > > > > be expected, it does not recognize aperture between main
      > > > > settings.
      > > > > > >> > > > > > Now the question is which focal length is correct for
      > > this
      > > > > lens?
      > > > > > >> > > > > Depending on the brand name it has a focal length from 6
      > > to 8
      > > > > mm
      > > > > > >> > > > > designation.
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > Rob
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > Forget about the focal length provided in the EXIF or in
      > > the
      > > > > > >> > > sales info.
      > > > > > >> > > > > It is of no use for this lens as it has a very special
      > > > > > >> > > projection which
      > > > > > >> > > > > will need you to provide the info manually in PTGUI
      > > > > > >> > > > > If you just try to use auto stitching in PTGui it does not
      > > > > work
      > > > > > >> > > at all.
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > You will get an optimized focal length of around 10.3 mm
      > > if
      > > > > you
      > > > > > >> > > use
      > > > > > >> > > > > circular crop and around 9mm if you use fullframe crop.
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > Follow the info I gave you in my post before.
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > Hans
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > RobLee
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Mon, 12/21/09, Hans <hans@> wrote:
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > From: Hans <hans@>
      > > > > > >> > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Samyang 8mm F stop
      > > > > > >> > > > > > To: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com<PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com><PanoToolsNG%
      > > > > 40yahoogroups.com><PanoToolsNG%
      > > > >
      > > > > > >> 40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > > >> > > > > > Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 6:35 PM
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      > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In PanoToolsNG@ yahoogroups. com, Carl von Einem
      > > > > <einem@>
      > > > > > >> > > wrote:
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > The D300 will show the aperture for manual lenses,
      > > don't
      > > > > > >> > > believe Hans.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > The following also works beginning with the D200/D2
      > > > > > >> > > generation of
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > digital Nikon cameras.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Posted by: "Hans"
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- RobLee <roblee007@> wrote:
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Meaning on the lens? Will it show up properly in
      > > > > EXIF?
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > No it will not show in EXIF.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sorry Hans, that is nonsens. Maybe your Canon bodies
      > > don't
      > > > > > >> > > like manual
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > lenses, a Nikon D300 behaves well...
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > Carl
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > I am talking about the EXIF info you get for PTGui.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > Did I say anything about aperture in EXIF?
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > You do not need that for PTGui.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > The Samyang provides a completely unuseable EXIF and
      > > thats
      > > > > why
      > > > > > >> > > you have
      > > > > > >> > > > > to give PTGui the initial info manually.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > I assume that the Bower or what ever he got is the same.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > The EXIF says 6mm which means you get a cropcircle that
      > > > > crops
      > > > > > >> > > half of the
      > > > > > >> > > > > images.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > You have either set the crop as circle manually to the
      > > > > corners
      > > > > > >> > > for 180
      > > > > > >> > > > > degree or choose fullframe and in that case you have to
      > > set
      > > > > the
      > > > > > >> > > FOV manually
      > > > > > >> > > > > to 100 if images are in portrait.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > Hans
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > You can switch between up to nine different manual
      > > lenses:
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > - press MENU
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > - on the left of the screen choose the 'System'
      > > submenu
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > (it has a wrench tool as an icon)
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > - scroll down to 'lens data'
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now starting with lens number 1 define all your manual
      > > > > > >> > > lenses, e.g. the
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > settings for my load of manual lenses are
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1: 8mm F2.8 (the maximum aperture of that specific
      > > lens)
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2: 20mm F2.8
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3: 35mm F1.4
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4: 50mm F1.2
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5: 85mm F1.4
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 6: 135mm F2.8
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Switching between manual lenses can either be done in
      > > that
      > > > > > >> > > same menu
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > (select the lens and click the OK button) or even
      > > easier:
      > > > > > >> > > configure
      > > > > > >> > > > > MENU
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 'Individual Functions' (the pen icon) -> f -> f4
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > I set this button to
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > - only button: OFF
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > - button & wheel: Non-CPU
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now you can select one of you manual lenses easily by
      > > > > > >> > > pressing the
      > > > > > >> > > > > lower
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > button at the front of the body plus turning on of the
      > > > > > >> > > wheels. Look at
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > the upper display to see which setting you choose.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Only if you have several different manual lenses you
      > > have
      > > > > to
      > > > > > >> > > switch
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > between those settings when mounting one of them. As
      > > soon
      > > > > as
      > > > > > >> > > you mount
      > > > > > >> > > > > a
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > 'modern' lens with CPU again the camera will know what
      > > > > other
      > > > > > >> > > lens you
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > use but it'll remember the last manual setting you
      > > chose.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
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      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Carl
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
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      > > > > > >> > > > > > > Posted by: "RobLee" roblee007@ . roblee007
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:38 am ((PST))
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I shot some pictures around my house and looked at
      > > EXIF,
      > > > > it
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > shows "maximum aperture: F1", so how Autopano or
      > > PTGui
      > > > > is
      > > > > > >> > > going
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > to work with this info? Can I use analog meter on
      > > D300
      > > > > or
      > > > > > >> > > do I
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > have to look at Histogram to set correct exposure?
      > > > > Please
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > enlighten me on this issues.
      > > > > > >> > > > > >
      > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you!
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