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  • Jim Dawson
    I thought this stuff, and the post above, still belonged in the Panotools List. Or are we going to have two political lists? Jim ... From: Pat Swovelin
    Message 1 of 3 , Jul 10, 2006
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      I thought this stuff, and the post above, still belonged in the
      Panotools List. Or are we going to have two political lists?

      Jim

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      From: "Pat Swovelin" <Panoramas@...>
      To: "PanotoolsNG Yahoo group" <PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 11:58 PM
      Subject: [PanoToolsNG] The Verein vs. the IVRPA ...


      > Prior to John forcing everyone's hand when he went suicidal last night
      > the group was working towards creating a Verein and that was virtually
      > complete until Michael tossed the IVRPA into the mix and everything was
      > thrown into disarray.
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      > That's history but the significant part is when our hand was forced the
      > 1st very thing we did was to start a new Yahoo list (2 actually at
      > virtually the same time which increases my point) to give everyone a
      > place to go and decide what to do next. It seems that if the group's
      > mindset was towards joining something (Help! Help! Save me.) we
      > would've immediately joined the IVRPA en mass and encouraged other
      > like-minded people to do so.
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      > But we didn't.
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      > We created a new list to form our own organization because we're
      > independent and want to stay that way. When there's a problem we don't
      > look for someone to save us we save ourselves. We're internalizers and
      > not externalizers. That's the mark of an independent group/individual
      > that wants to stay that way.
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      > And that dear readers is why we should pursue the Verein over the IVRPA,
      > it's in our DNA and doing anything less is denying our true nature.
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      > Pat Swovelin
      > Cool Guy @ Large
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    • Pat Swovelin
      ... *Absolutely not!* I posted to the wrong list but by the time I found out about it it was too late to do anything about it. ... Pat Swovelin Cool Guy @
      Message 2 of 3 , Jul 10, 2006
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        Jim Dawson wrote:
        > I thought this stuff, and the post above, still belonged in the
        > Panotools List. Or are we going to have two political lists?

        *Absolutely not!* I posted to the wrong list but by the time I found
        out about it it was too late to do anything about it.

        > Jim




        Pat Swovelin
        Cool Guy @ Large
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