Re: [PanoToolsNG] Re: Timelapse panorama project
- Keith, John, Alessandro,
thanks for your nice words, after all the work done on this project
is very recomfortable to feel that interest. Thanks!
I'll see if in any piece of free time I get soon I can do a
"subtitled" panorama, maybe will be the first! ;-) At least I'll try
to translate the script or make a little summary.
I went to do the photographs with a friend of mine who is Director of
Photography in movies and is interested about panoramas. It was hard
to be there from 7:30 morning till 20:00 evening, and each 5 minutes
do the 6 shots horizontal at 10mm with the canon 10-22 (landscape
position). Sometimes I went to relax and walk a little and sometimes
she stayed at the feet of the tripod reading .....
The pigs where very scared of our presence at first, but as some of
them where aproaching and we stayed very stable, finally all of them
came by our side. After some time we had to jump in front of them to
make them move one or two meters away of us. The problem was that
they were sniffing and eating and lots of them went to eat our food,
and because of the 360 photographs we had to hide the food from the
camera at the back of the first tree. Also they where so intrigued
about us being there that some where to try the taste of the
tripod!!! Imagine my face when I turned to check the tripod and saw a
big pig tasting the tripod with his tongue!!!! :-o
The resolution of the installation is much better than the one on the
web viewer. We where working with 8 PAL with some space between them
doing a final panorama size of 7205 by 405 pixels (PAL anamorphic of
576 pixels). Here you can see an example of the final canvas: http://
The bigger problems stiching were my fault when photographing, first
of all the biggest problem was that in two moments during the shot we
did touch slightly the zoom ring and change it a little. And being in
the PTGUI app, I did tell the application to not to optimize the lens
setting different for all the images because some times I got worst
results than using the same setting for all. The second thing was
that the PTGUI app is not prepared (or not yet ;-) for timelapse
panoramas with the panosaurus head, so when you ask to look for
points it doesn't look for points between each consecutive image and
looks between the images that had lots of resemblance (or so it
seems). But anyway, that's simple to fix by forcing it to look for
points between each pair MANUALLY .... 8-o (I had some other friends
also helping me in this hard and boring work!). The rest was fine, I
missed some automatisms in the PTGUI app, but I understand that the
use I gave it it's not the normal use everybody gives. As I had
800-1000 photos per place (so finally 2600-3000 photographs in three
Of course a 360precision would have made my life a lot easier, I
think that a NN3 would have done also my life easier as it have
detent too, but the panosaurus head we used worked perfectly I must
say. The problem was that in this project the budget was very thin
and it was impossible to think about a 360p. Next time maybe ;-)
Technically once I had all the "frames" stitched we entered in a
process of video postproduction of a canvas of 7205 by 600 that later
croped to the 7205 by 405 (proporionally to a 16:9 aspect ratio). As
you can see on the canvas I showed you ( http://tinyurl.com/6yfq6q )
the black bars where the structure of the projection screen, the grey
spaces are the part that we don't project because there is where the
people enter and leave.
Once finished the postproduction, I divided the big canvas in 8 video
movies (in after effects). The projection system is a flash card
based video player sincronized by a dmx system I think. As I didn't
do the technollogy design I can tell. Anyway it's nothing extremelly
dificult to achieve.
If anyone of you have further questions, don't hestiate to ask, I'll
be glad to answer! Also would like to hear about your project, John,
maybe we could collaborate!
Thanks all again for your words!
El 29/04/2008, a las 19:24, johncharlesriley escribió:
> --- In PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com, pau valiente <groups@...> wrote:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> Hi everyone, we have finally finished the timelapse panorama project
>> I did talk some weeks ago. You can check the results in:
>> There you will find the panorama divided on three parts to fit a PAL
>> movie, a lucid viewer pano with the video (i'ts a pitty not to have
>> directional sound) and finally the youtube videos where you can see
>> the exposition being build and the final result.
>> Comments are welcome!
>> I hope you like it!
>> pau valiente
> Hi Pau,
> That is very cool, especially when the pigs come to visit. (Did
> any of the pigs show an
> unwelcome interest in your tripod/camera setup?) There are a few
> questions I want to ask
> about the project.
> How does the resolution in the installation compare to the lucid
> viewer on the web? I am
> imagining it must be a good deal higher.
> Did you take all of the pictures yourself or did you have some
> assistants? I would zone
> out or fall asleep after a few hours and miss some shots for sure 8-)
> Looking back over your posts, it sounds like you had a good deal of
> trouble with the
> stitching and alignment from one pano to the next. Do you think
> using a panohead like
> the 360Precision (and a heavily weighted tripod) with a template
> for batch stitching could
> have made your life a lot easier? Just the hours you would have
> saved probably would
> have paid for one!
> How did you run the projection system? How did you divide up the
> panorama between
> the eight projectors and synchronize them? Were you running it all
> off of a single
> computer with several video cards or what? Details!
> I would like to do an installation of this sort and any lessons you
> have learned that you
> would like to share with us are welcomed.
> Good work!
> John Riley