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  • pau valiente
    Rodolpho, I ve now understood. Thanks! pau valiente www.pau.cc ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 16 , Apr 30, 2008
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      Rodolpho, I've now understood.
      Thanks!

      pau valiente
      www.pau.cc






      El 01/05/2008, a las 0:05, Rodolpho Pajuaba escribió:

      > Just to make things a little clearer:
      > The taxes Ayrton mentioned are over goods imported by regular
      > importers;
      > actually, the tax amount is about 60-70%, plus the importer´s profit,
      > which amounts to about 100%. On the other hand, when one imports a
      > good
      > by mail, with prices up to US$ 3.000,00, the tax is 60% plus S&H;
      > sometimes is 60% over S&H too. The sub-web you mention is the so-
      > called
      > Brazil Special, and was created by B&H to feed the brazilian market
      > with
      > imports that enters Brazil below the radar of the Receita Federal, the
      > office responsible for the duties. It´s way more expensive - and yet
      > less so than when with the official taxes - and WAAAAAY slower, being
      > the usual a 45-days delivery, sometimes amounting to 3 months - due to
      > the, errrr, "unofficialness" of the transaction. Unfortunately it´s an
      > usual commercial behaviour here, a direct result of the imports
      > policy,
      > and is what we call here "To create difficulties to sell the
      > facility".
      > Regards,
      > Rodolpho Pajuaba
      >
      > pau valiente wrote:
      >> Hi Ayrton,
      >> it's funny you say that because a person that works with me is
      >> brasilian and told me that she buyed on B&H also because there is a
      >> special sub-web for brasil and she got things at a good price when
      >> she lived in brasil.
      >> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?
      >> O=NavBar&A=changeLanguge&Q=&ul=P&umse=0
      >>
      >>
      >> pau valiente
      >> www.pau.cc
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> El 30/04/2008, a las 23:43, AYRTON escribió:
      >>
      >>
      >>> Guys you're all happy and don't know :-)TAXes to enter in Brasil
      >>> is 100% on
      >>> top of US price :-(
      >>>
      >>> AYRTON
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:24 PM, pau valiente <groups@...> wrote:
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> Well, I did buy two canon 10-22 and one sigma 18-200 from US,
      >>>> actually I count on the TAX cost 16% in spain and some cost of
      >>>> customs 7% for electronic devices plus some cost of the customs
      >>>> clearance by UPS.
      >>>>
      >>>> When I did the comparision, the three lenses on pixmania (a low
      >>>> cost
      >>>> european online shop) did cost 2115 euros including shipping. It
      >>>> cost
      >>>> me 1418 euros the lenses and the shipping and after I had to pay to
      >>>> UPS 300 euros of tax, customs and customs clearance. So we paid 614
      >>>> euros for the 10-22 lens and 489 for the sigma 18-22.
      >>>> And about the guarantee, you have the US guarantee from the
      >>>> shop, and
      >>>> also you can buy a extension of the guarantee from canon spain
      >>>> (what
      >>>> I did) or canon Germany, for a small amount.
      >>>> Hope it helps.....
      >>>>
      >>>> pau valiente
      >>>> www.pau.cc
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> El 30/04/2008, a las 22:03, ptgroup escribió:
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>> Watchout !!
      >>>>> European Airports are very picky on US tourists at the moment.
      >>>>> That´s of course due to the Euro/USD rate.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> When you let it send by the seller: you probably have no chance to
      >>>>> pass
      >>>>> without custom.
      >>>>> So add ab. 30% for custom & feee (Germany) plus the additional
      >>>>> shipping the
      >>>>> seller requiers.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> It came out for me, that a Tokina 10-17 fisheye for 499 USD
      >>>>> send to
      >>>>> a firen
      >>>>> who prechecks it (right mount, basic function OK)
      >>>>> and then sends ist via Fedex (120 USD) will be 520 USD without
      >>>>> customs etc.
      >>>>> That´s ab. 350 Euro, sold in Germany for 460 Euro - so what ?
      >>>>> NO warranty (only in US) and if customs get me 30% of 350 = 105
      >>>>> Euros to
      >>>>> add.
      >>>>> Then it makes really NO difference - you got a lens for the same
      >>>>> price but
      >>>>> with no EU warranty :-(
      >>>>>
      >>>>> So check out all issues before you buy the lens in the US.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Ciao
      >>>>> mike
      >>>>> www.360de.de (relaunched)
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> ----------------------------------
      >>>>>
      >>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
      >>>>> Von: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
      >>>>> [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com]Im
      >>>>> Auftrag von pau valiente
      >>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. April 2008 21:49
      >>>>> An: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
      >>>>> Betreff: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Sigma 8mm f:3.5 Fisheye with Nikon
      >>>>> mount
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Carlos,
      >>>>> it will be better to buy it in US because with the dollar-euro
      >>>>> difference the cost will be smaller as you will get it in
      >>>>> europe,
      >>>>> still if you count the tax and shipping ....
      >>>>> I did buy two lenses on B&H photo NY and it arrived within one
      >>>>> week ....
      >>>>> Here you have the links:
      >>>>> canon:
      >>>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/440665-REG/
      >>>>> Sigma_485101_8mm_f_3_5_EX_DG.html
      >>>>> nikon:
      >>>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/440661-REG/
      >>>>> Sigma_485306_8mm_f_3_5_EX_DG.html
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Salud!
      >>>>>
      >>>>> pau valiente
      >>>>> www.pau.cc
      >>>>>
      >>>>> El 28/04/2008, a las 17:29, Carlos Chegado escribió:
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>> Hi,
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> Anyone know were can I order a Sigma 8mm f:3.5 Fisheye with Nikon
      >>>>>> mount?
      >>>>>> Here in Portugal looks like I will have to wait 4 or more weeks
      >>>>>> until
      >>>>>> one arrives!
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> --
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> Os melhores cumprimentos,
      >>>>>> Best regards,
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> Carlos Chegado
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> Olho de Peixe Lda
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> ====================================
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> Fotografias 360º »» www.carloschegado.com <http://
      >>>>>> www.carloschegado.com>
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>> ====================================
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
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    • AYRTON
      WoowwwwRodolpho is our man to write in a perfect english :-) and make it all clear. Thank Pajú to help me out Abraços AYRTON On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:05
      Message 2 of 16 , Apr 30, 2008
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        WoowwwwRodolpho is our man to write in a perfect english :-)
        and make it all clear.
        Thank Pajú to help me out
        Abraços
        AYRTON



        On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Rodolpho Pajuaba <rpajuaba@...>
        wrote:

        > Just to make things a little clearer:
        > The taxes Ayrton mentioned are over goods imported by regular importers;
        > actually, the tax amount is about 60-70%, plus the importer´s profit,
        > which amounts to about 100%. On the other hand, when one imports a good
        > by mail, with prices up to US$ 3.000,00, the tax is 60% plus S&H;
        > sometimes is 60% over S&H too. The sub-web you mention is the so-called
        > Brazil Special, and was created by B&H to feed the brazilian market with
        > imports that enters Brazil below the radar of the Receita Federal, the
        > office responsible for the duties. It´s way more expensive - and yet
        > less so than when with the official taxes - and WAAAAAY slower, being
        > the usual a 45-days delivery, sometimes amounting to 3 months - due to
        > the, errrr, "unofficialness" of the transaction. Unfortunately it´s an
        > usual commercial behaviour here, a direct result of the imports policy,
        > and is what we call here "To create difficulties to sell the facility".
        > Regards,
        > Rodolpho Pajuaba
        >
        > pau valiente wrote:
        > > Hi Ayrton,
        > > it's funny you say that because a person that works with me is
        > > brasilian and told me that she buyed on B&H also because there is a
        > > special sub-web for brasil and she got things at a good price when
        > > she lived in brasil.
        > > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?
        > > O=NavBar&A=changeLanguge&Q=&ul=P&umse=0
        > >
        > >
        > > pau valiente
        > > www.pau.cc
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > El 30/04/2008, a las 23:43, AYRTON escribió:
        > >
        > >
        > >> Guys you're all happy and don't know :-)TAXes to enter in Brasil
        > >> is 100% on
        > >> top of US price :-(
        > >>
        > >> AYRTON
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:24 PM, pau valiente <groups@...> wrote:
        > >>
        > >>
        > >>> Well, I did buy two canon 10-22 and one sigma 18-200 from US,
        > >>> actually I count on the TAX cost 16% in spain and some cost of
        > >>> customs 7% for electronic devices plus some cost of the customs
        > >>> clearance by UPS.
        > >>>
        > >>> When I did the comparision, the three lenses on pixmania (a low cost
        > >>> european online shop) did cost 2115 euros including shipping. It cost
        > >>> me 1418 euros the lenses and the shipping and after I had to pay to
        > >>> UPS 300 euros of tax, customs and customs clearance. So we paid 614
        > >>> euros for the 10-22 lens and 489 for the sigma 18-22.
        > >>> And about the guarantee, you have the US guarantee from the shop, and
        > >>> also you can buy a extension of the guarantee from canon spain (what
        > >>> I did) or canon Germany, for a small amount.
        > >>> Hope it helps.....
        > >>>
        > >>> pau valiente
        > >>> www.pau.cc
        > >>>
        > >>>
        > >>>
        > >>>
        > >>>
        > >>>
        > >>>
        > >>> El 30/04/2008, a las 22:03, ptgroup escribió:
        > >>>
        > >>>
        > >>>> Watchout !!
        > >>>> European Airports are very picky on US tourists at the moment.
        > >>>> That´s of course due to the Euro/USD rate.
        > >>>>
        > >>>> When you let it send by the seller: you probably have no chance to
        > >>>> pass
        > >>>> without custom.
        > >>>> So add ab. 30% for custom & feee (Germany) plus the additional
        > >>>> shipping the
        > >>>> seller requiers.
        > >>>>
        > >>>> It came out for me, that a Tokina 10-17 fisheye for 499 USD send to
        > >>>> a firen
        > >>>> who prechecks it (right mount, basic function OK)
        > >>>> and then sends ist via Fedex (120 USD) will be 520 USD without
        > >>>> customs etc.
        > >>>> That´s ab. 350 Euro, sold in Germany for 460 Euro - so what ?
        > >>>> NO warranty (only in US) and if customs get me 30% of 350 = 105
        > >>>> Euros to
        > >>>> add.
        > >>>> Then it makes really NO difference - you got a lens for the same
        > >>>> price but
        > >>>> with no EU warranty :-(
        > >>>>
        > >>>> So check out all issues before you buy the lens in the US.
        > >>>>
        > >>>> Ciao
        > >>>> mike
        > >>>> www.360de.de (relaunched)
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        > >>>> ----------------------------------
        > >>>>
        > >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
        > >>>> Von: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
        > >>>> [mailto:PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com]Im
        > >>>> Auftrag von pau valiente
        > >>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. April 2008 21:49
        > >>>> An: PanoToolsNG@yahoogroups.com
        > >>>> Betreff: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Sigma 8mm f:3.5 Fisheye with Nikon
        > >>>> mount
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        > >>>> Carlos,
        > >>>> it will be better to buy it in US because with the dollar-euro
        > >>>> difference the cost will be smaller as you will get it in europe,
        > >>>> still if you count the tax and shipping ....
        > >>>> I did buy two lenses on B&H photo NY and it arrived within one
        > >>>> week ....
        > >>>> Here you have the links:
        > >>>> canon:
        > >>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/440665-REG/
        > >>>> Sigma_485101_8mm_f_3_5_EX_DG.html
        > >>>> nikon:
        > >>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/440661-REG/
        > >>>> Sigma_485306_8mm_f_3_5_EX_DG.html
        > >>>>
        > >>>> Salud!
        > >>>>
        > >>>> pau valiente
        > >>>> www.pau.cc
        > >>>>
        > >>>> El 28/04/2008, a las 17:29, Carlos Chegado escribió:
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        > >>>>> Hi,
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> Anyone know were can I order a Sigma 8mm f:3.5 Fisheye with Nikon
        > >>>>> mount?
        > >>>>> Here in Portugal looks like I will have to wait 4 or more weeks
        > >>>>> until
        > >>>>> one arrives!
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> --
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> Os melhores cumprimentos,
        > >>>>> Best regards,
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> Carlos Chegado
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> Olho de Peixe Lda
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> ====================================
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> Fotografias 360º »» www.carloschegado.com <http://
        > >>>>> www.carloschegado.com>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> ====================================
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> ------------------------------------
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>> --
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>>>
        > >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        > >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
        > >>>> Checked by AVG.
        > >>>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1403 - Release Date:
        > >>>> 29.04.2008
        > >>>> 07:26
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
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        > >> ------------
        > >> | A Y R |
        > >> | T O N |
        > >> ------------
        > >>
        > >> + 55 21 9982 6313
        > >>
        > >> http://ayrton360.com
        > >> http://rio.360cities.net
        > >> http://vrfolio.com
        > >> http://ayrton.com
        > >>
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